Any hope for the month of August ?

shooter57

hi folks , June and July has been a real let down , I'm trying to keep myself sane in thinking we might finally get a bit of good weather for August what do you guys think ?

thewing

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE......

Jpmarn

Unfortunately when much of June and July goes bad so will August. Fortunately there are exceptions in the rule and August buck the trend. If there is no improvement in August there usually is in September.

Sponge Bob

September 1985 was lovely after (IIRC) it rained all summer....every day.

Lemmy Scott

Pathetic weather -worst hit is Cork bloody brutal every day

shooter57

tell me about it ! it's hard to keep the spirits up when all we have is grey skies and rain . Trying to entertain young kids when they can't play out is another story . so come on weather guru's , can you give us some hope ?

Steven81

Cant wait for the schools to go back, leaving cert week and when they return after summer holidays guarantees hot weather.

Birdnuts

Sponge Bob wrote: »

September 1985 was lovely after (IIRC) it rained all summer....every day.

We'll probably get a decent week in September - this is often the pattern after a rubbish summer!! Indeed the last few years the "Irish summer" has consisted of one week in March/April and one in September:(

snubbleste

Steven81 wrote: »

Cant wait for the schools to go back, leaving cert week and when they return after summer holidays guarantees hot weather.

Leaving Cert week this year was a showcase of crappy weather.

Bsal

Kuwait got up to 51c today OKBK 311130Z 07004KT CAVOK 51/M05 Q0996 NOSIG. Pity they can't share a bit of that with us

JanuarySnowstor

I think it's the collection of bad Summers is what's getting to me
People have short memories, the last 3 or 4 Summers have been equally bad as far as i'm concerned.
May not say on the stats, but last year eventhough it wasn't as wet was quite cool and very cloudy.
Indeed the average temp last Summer was very depressed

What's causing this run of mediocre Summers is anyone's guess
I heard the eagle say recently that our expectations are just too high
I wonder John, I remember plenty hot sunny weather in my youth!!

Babooshka

Birdnuts wrote: »

We'll probably get a decent week in September - this is often the pattern after a rubbish summer!! Indeed the last few years the "Irish summer" has consisted of one week in March/April and one in September:(

a week in March/April, one in September...and two weeks in.... SPAIN!!

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

May not say on the stats, but last year eventhough it wasn't as wet was quite cool and very cloudy.
Indeed the average temp last Summer was very depressed
.......our expectations are just too high
I wonder John, I remember plenty hot sunny weather in my youth!!

Have to agree there, last year I thought summer was a lot colder and even tho this one hasn't been much better we had more humid/warm days where shirts in work sufficed as opposed to the same clothes I wear in winter all summer long last year. Crapski. I remember better summers as a kid too, not heatwaves all summer long but longer stretches of warm pleasat weather. Bah....to Spain so!

pauldry

August will have a few good days but overall it will be cool. However there should be a few nice days from time to time just not any prolonged dry spells.

Lemmy Scott

looking out the window in cork i can see the trees in the garden being nearly blown down plus this awful misty annoying rain-november doesnt get much worst than this

yellowlabrador

I'm going back to bed. went out for 1/2 an hour and I'm soaked.

shooter57

Indeed last summer was cold , I remember having to wear a jacket everyday . A bit warmer this summer but the f****n rain everyday is awful .
I remember long ago back in the 80's as a kid we seemed to have proper summers , remember goin to bed crying with sunburn ! Don't think there was such thing as suncream back then . It's just a pity our kids don't experience the summers we did .

shooter57

yellowlabrador wrote: »

I'm going back to bed. went out for 1/2 an hour and I'm soaked.

Depressing isn't it . Although it's a lovely morning here in Dublin. Sunny and warm .A bit windy . Any minute now the rain should be here !

shooter57

Bsal wrote: »

Kuwait got up to 51c today OKBK 311130Z 07004KT CAVOK 51/M05 Q0996 NOSIG. Pity they can't share a bit of that with us

Life would be soo much easier living in a warmer climate . Although in 51 deg C we'd probably be moaning aswell !

JM Skipton

September has form when it comes to bad June,July & Augusts, i have no scientific proof but from my experience in the Dublin region, 1985 was a shocker of a summer but a brilliant September again 2002 was very poor but the end of August and end of September turned out better than the previous 3 months. 2007 was the start of this current run of bad summers and September was very pleasant that year this pattern has continued since although I thinks last years good September spell was shorter than previous years.I don't ever remember having a terrible June & July followed by a long period of good weather in August.

shooter57

So we might get a spell in September . At least that's something . The only thing is the kids are back and we can't go anywhere , we need it now

Sappa

I am back in Ireland 4 yrs now and I haven't had a decent summer since our return.
I remember when we were kids in the 80s and once school finished we were in shorts and t shirts,playing rounders with the locals on warm summers night or just being outside almost every day.
Went for a walk with the madra last night and I had to put the rain gear on,brollie got blown apart.
We have had the heat on a dozen times this month,it's the constant rain,grey skies and wind.
Moving over seas next year and our main reason is to get to somewhere with a decent climate.
The if only Ireland had good weather it would be such a fantastic country,but that's never going to happen here it's a two season country extreme winter wet weather or milder wet gloomy weather with the odd tease of a sunny day.

Tombo2001

Sponge Bob wrote: »

September 1985 was lovely after (IIRC) it rained all summer....every day.

Funny enough, that was my first year in secondary school.....and a very vivid memory I have is of a scorching hot September day, in one of the first few weeks at school, windows wide open, some poxy boring class.......

in the middle of it, some kid came along with a ghettoblaster (as they were in dem days in our ghetto) and sat down on the street outside our classroom, and played the whole of the Unforgettable Fire album .....pure bliss for forty minutes.

Tombo2001

Sappa wrote: »

I am back in Ireland 4 yrs now and I haven't had a decent summer since our return.
I remember when we were kids in the 80s and once school finished we were in shorts and t shirts,playing rounders with the locals on warm summers night or just being outside almost every day.
Went for a walk with the madra last night and I had to put the rain gear on,brollie got blown apart.
We have had the heat on a dozen times this month,it's the constant rain,grey skies and wind.
Moving over seas next year and our main reason is to get to somewhere with a decent climate.
The if only Ireland had good weather it would be such a fantastic country,but that's never going to happen here it's a two season country extreme winter wet weather or milder wet gloomy weather with the odd tease of a sunny day.

Funny, we have a four year old and he is yet to see a summer here.

He had one good fortnight, back in June of 2009. Thats been more or less it.

up for anything

Any hope? I think this says it all.

Elmer Blooker

to answer the OP's question - NO.
Look at the occlusion wrapped around the low, I've never seen anything like it at this time of year!
edit: actually I don't think I've ever seen anything like it at ANY time of year.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/charts/FSXX00T_72.jpg

snubbleste

This is a MetEireann forecast from 12 August 2008.. plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

The weather continues to remain very unsettled with no hope at all of any real improvement this week or over the weekend. Most of the showers will die away tomorrow night and it will be fairly clear through the night-time. Thursday and Friday won't be the wettest days of the week. There will be showers on Thursday but also good dry periods when the weather may be nice and bright and sunny. There will be a good deal of dry bright weather too for the first half of Friday. But then during the day on Friday cloud will increase and outbreaks of rain will start to develop. But it will be over the weekend that the rain will get very heavy once more.
During Saturday another Atlantic depression will come close to Ireland. That will give more torrential rain, cloudbursts and downpours and lead on to more flooding. Then an improvement for Sunday but the day is still likely to be showery.

Harps

Bright and sunny this evening again..

Only been three or four days I'd call 'bad' in the past two weeks

Sappa

Harps wrote: »

Bright and sunny this evening again..

Only been three or four days I'd call 'bad' in the past two weeks

We must live in separate countries.

talkabout

Harps wrote: »

Bright and sunny this evening again..

Only been three or four days I'd call 'bad' in the past two weeks

I live up the road in Ballybofey and its been wet, miserable and windy

Harps

I'm on the west coast around Dungloe at the moment, should probably update my location.

We had a few heavy showers this morning but it was bright and sunny all evening. Yesterday was a terrible day but it hasn't been that bad recently, plenty of warm sunshine over the past week

shooter57

Harps wrote: »

Bright and sunny this evening again..

Only been three or four days I'd call 'bad' in the past two weeks

it turned out to be a beautiful evening here in Dublin too , wasn't a bad day apart from two heavy showers , from 6 to 9pm it was lovely and sunny , gone quite cool now though .maybe there is hope afterall:D

allthedoyles

pauldry wrote: »

August will have a few good days but overall it will be cool. However there should be a few nice days from time to time just not any prolonged dry spells.

What I am hoping for is dry days anyway -- Its August after all so we cannot expect high temperatures .

If we get a dry day 8 hours during daylight hours , I would now consider it a prolonged spell

Elmer Blooker

JM Skipton wrote: »

September has form when it comes to bad June,July & Augusts, i have no scientific proof but from my experience in the Dublin region, 1985 was a shocker of a summer but a brilliant September again 2002 was very poor but the end of August and end of September turned out better than the previous 3 months. 2007 was the start of this current run of bad summers and September was very pleasant that year this pattern has continued since although I thinks last years good September spell was shorter than previous years.I don't ever remember having a terrible June & July followed by a long period of good weather in August.

You've just described why there's a lot of truth in the St Swithin's day legend JM.

pauldry

allthedoyles wrote: »

What I am hoping for is dry days anyway -- Its August after all so we cannot expect high temperatures .

If we get a dry day 8 hours during daylight hours , I would now consider it a prolonged spell

True indeed. THe next couple of days could turn out OK away from the West coast with a lot of sun. Granted there will be a few showers but if you go to www.raintoday.co.uk you will see when they are likely to hit your area before you go out the door.

In Sligo we seem to have had the driest Summer in Ireland but most of it has been at night. im currently moonbathing in 13.1c heat. Does 55F sound better?

Bannasidhe

I went out to get herbs from the garden. It wasn't raining as I stepped outside the back door. Bent over to get some tarragon - the heavens opened. By the time I got back inside - a distance of about 4 feet - the downpour had turned to a light drizzle. I, however, was drenched. :mad:

Knowing my luck we'll get a great week in Sept - and it will be the week I booked in Spain.

DOCARCH

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

You've just described why there's a lot of truth in the St Swithin's day legend JM.

There is definitely somethimg to the folklore.

The 'European Monsoon' that often occurs from late May through June (as has happened this year and for a number of years!) often settles down by early July with more settled 'summer' weather by mid-July through to August as a result of a shift in the jet stream.

I recckon the folklore comes about by reason that if you're still getting Atlantic systems/rain coming in the middle of July you've had your chips for the rest of the summer!

Tombo2001

up for anything wrote: »

Any hope? I think this says it all.

I was unemployed last summer and so was more keenly watching the weather forecast, as I'd be out and about more than usual.

Their hit rate was well below 50%, to the point that I did find it unhelpful to follow the weather forecast. If they said it was one thing, it was more likely to be the other.

JM Skipton

DOCARCH wrote: »

There is definitely somethimg to the folklore.

The 'European Monsoon' that often occurs from late May through June (as has happened this year and for a number of years!) often settles down by early July with more settled 'summer' weather by mid-July through to August as a result of a shift in the jet stream.

I recckon the folklore comes about by reason that if you're still getting Atlantic systems/rain coming in the middle of July you've had your chips for the rest of the summer!

Presume the opposite happened in 1995, think the jet stream shifted north as early as the end of April that year and stayed there which then led to a scorching August.

jprboy

Sponge Bob wrote: »

September 1985 was lovely after (IIRC) it rained all summer....every day.

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Funny enough, that was my first year in secondary school.....and a very vivid memory I have is of a scorching hot September day, in one of the first few weeks at school, windows wide open, some poxy boring class.......

in the middle of it, some kid came along with a ghettoblaster (as they were in dem days in our ghetto) and sat down on the street outside our classroom, and played the whole of the Unforgettable Fire album .....pure bliss for forty minutes.

I too have some very strong memories of September 1985 and it's probably because of the awful summer that had preceded it, plus the fact that I was in my last year of secondary school.

First one is of the journey home on the school bus one Friday evening. It being a Friday was good in itself but the sun was beaming down out of a clear blue sky and at an angle that picked up the leaves on the trees that were starting to turn colour. There was just something about the quality of the light that evening. And then, out of the radio on the bus came Walking on Sunshine from Katrina and the Waves. A song has rarely felt so apt....

Second memory is of a Sunday afternoon later in Sept '85. Another sunny day with a very light wind from the southeast. I love it when the wind comes from that direction !! We lived in a small village and I was in an upstairs room which was flooded with light and the gentle rustle of leaves outside could be heard though the open windows. I was reading The Great Gatsby which was on the English curriculum that year. I liked reading so this really wasn't like work and that is one amazing book. The weather conditions I was reading it in seemed to make it even better !! Then two friends of mine pulled up in a car outside so I went down, sat into the back and shot the breeze with them for a while. Simple times but good times.

Sorry for the taking the thread off topic OP those memories just came flooding back. Maybe we should start a September 1985 thread...!!

dharma200

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I think it's the collection of bad Summers is what's getting to me
People have short memories, the last 3 or 4 Summers have been equally bad as far as i'm concerned.
May not say on the stats, but last year eventhough it wasn't as wet was quite cool and very cloudy.
Indeed the average temp last Summer was very depressed

What's causing this run of mediocre Summers is anyone's guess
I heard the eagle say recently that our expectations are just too high
I wonder John, I remember plenty hot sunny weather in my youth!!

There is an interesting thread about 2012/2013 winter that is worth reading and may give those of us with only face value insight into the weather a heads up as to the actual phenomenon of ****e weather that we are experiencing x

jprboy

The thread title reminds me of my uncle who year after year would predict that August was going to be a good month weather-wise and he was invariably wrong, so much so that it became a running joke in our family.

The interesting thing about this though is that his prediction was based on the not exactly ideal conditions we were experiencing while trying to save hay in June/July. We NEVER failed to save the hay though during June and July, so while those summers in the main weren't scorchers, they were far better than the last few summers we've had. The thought of having no choice but to try and save hay this year almost makes me ill. Thankfully it's all silage in the home place now.

Tombo2001

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I was unemployed last summer and so was more keenly watching the weather forecast, as I'd be out and about more than usual.

Their hit rate was well below 50%, to the point that I did find it unhelpful to follow the weather forecast. If they said it was one thing, it was more likely to be the other.

To be fair with the kind of weather we've been getting this summer and at a lot of times last year the rainfall and the like would be incredibly localised. The figures for rainfall last month had the wettest and one of the driest places both in Mayo for example. I remember the start of last year travelling up and back to Dublin when in Dundalk it had been calm for a few weeks and some of the rivers were overflowing. A month or two later it was raining non-stop in Dundalk yet those same rivers were way down.
To be honest I just look at the satelites and see what amount of cloud is likely to come over during the day and it's about as accurate as any forecast I've come across.

Please Kill Me

allthedoyles wrote: »

What I am hoping for is dry days anyway -- Its August after all so we cannot expect high temperatures .

If we get a dry day 8 hours during daylight hours , I would now consider it a prolonged spell

I think that's all any of us want! I don't care if it's 9C or 19C as long as it's dry!!

Birdnuts

Just had a look at the 00Z ECM - it actually looks great from next Wednesday on, to the extent that if it verified it would bring some of the highest temps seen in August over this country for nearly a decade. Unfortunatly way too far out to be anyway confident about it at this remove but its probably our best shot to save what remains of this season.

JM Skipton

Birdnuts wrote: »

Just had a look at the 00Z ECM - it actually looks great from next Wednesday on, to the extent that if it verified it would bring some of the highest temps seen in August over this country for nearly a decade. Unfortunatly way too far out to be anyway confident about it at this remove but its probably our best shot to save what remains of this season.

Unfortunately that phrase has been as common as the rain this summer!

WHATS THE STORY

nope don't think so rain rain rain rain

Jpmarn

Very often in a bad summer we often hear of prospect of good weather 5 days or more in advance it usually fell through. If rain was on the cards in the same period of time it would usually be correct.

Nabber

models are looking a bit more promising beyond 150hrs
But its not very reliable. Will change quite fast I'm sure.

Today was nice in Dublin. Dry, warm and overcast.

Lemmy Scott

cork has been the worst spot in the country regarding rain

Nabber

shooter57

Nabber wrote: »

what does this mean ?