Brake testers/tailgaters thread

Qualitymark

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

Reg'stoy

Qualitymark wrote: »

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

Please tell me you are just been facetious or are you really that bad a driver!!

Colonel Sanders

Qualitymark wrote: »

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

I must admit to finding it very funny that this post is in a thread agreeing that Irish drivers are crappy.......

guil

Qualitymark wrote: »

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

are you talking about driving on a motorway? all trucks are limited to 90 kmh

Boskowski

Reg'stoy wrote: »

Please tell me you are just been facetious or are you really that bad a driver!!

Tell me how that is bad driving please?
What else would you do? Tipping the brake just so that the brake lights come on but no actual braking takes place seems a perfectly good response to me too if the person is sitting right up on my arse.

AltAccount

Boskowski wrote: »

Tell me how that is bad driving please?
What else would you do? Tipping the brake just so that the brake lights come on but no actual braking takes place seems a perfectly good response to me too if the person is sitting right up on my arse.

You want someone to explain to you how brake testing someone on the motorway is bad driving??

Jesus wept!

keithclancy

AltAccount wrote: »

You want someone to explain to you how brake testing someone on the motorway is bad driving??

Jesus wept!

Better to do that than have them ram into the back of you if you do actually have to stop in an emergency.

Myself though, I just use the windscreen washers.

paddyland

Qualitymark wrote: »

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

Please come back and tell us this is a wind up. The kind of person who drives like that is most certainly not the kind of person who would frequent a motoring forum.

Anyone who sits in front of a heavy truck with sixteen gears, a 90kph limiter, and maybe forty tons behind, and starts tapping their brake like a complete ass, should be pulled off the road and arrested for dangerous driving. If he is doing 90, and you hold him back to 85, he has to keep changing up and down gears, and waste a lot of fuel in the process. He cannot legally or safely overtake, unless you slow right down to enable him to do so. When he slows down to 85kph, it takes too long for him to gain back the extra 5kph. If he has been driving for four hours, and is close to his limit on his tachograph, his job is hard enough, and the last thing he needs is an ass with no comprehension of what 40 tonnes weighs, no idea how the gears and clutch in a massive truck work, no idea of tachograph hours, no idea of speed limiters, and no idea of smooth or aware driving, and no experience of driving anything other than going to work or the shops, telling him what to do.

Truck drivers are LIMITED to 90kph, and they NEED to maintain a 90kph headway. There is no reason under the wide earthly sun for a driver in a far more capable car to have to do 88kph in front of a heavy truck, and demand him to fall back. If you want to go slower, let him pass, and fall well back as he does so. Give him a chance.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Tell me how that is bad driving please?
What else would you do? Tipping the brake just so that the brake lights come on but no actual braking takes place seems a perfectly good response to me too if the person is sitting right up on my arse.

Because you are deliberately and wilfully introducing the risk of an accident.

It is INCREDIBLY bad driving.

AltAccount

keithclancy wrote: »

Better to do that than have them ram into the back of you if you do actually have to stop in an emergency.

Myself though, I just use the windscreen washers.

Better again to pull out of their way?

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

Because you are deliberately and wilfully introducing the risk of an accident.

It is INCREDIBLY bad driving.

As opposed to the guy who's hanging off my back?

I'm merely indicating to him he is too close. And I wouldn't be doing that just 'cos 'I feel' he's to close. Thats for the guys who are reading the smallprint on my radio and show no indication of backing off.

It's not great but its the lesser of two evils, I'm actually trying to get out of a dangerous situation.

Boskowski

AltAccount wrote: »

You want someone to explain to you how brake testing someone on the motorway is bad driving??

Jesus wept!

Yes I do, please go ahead.

And as for the 'Jesus wept' can you reply to someone and try not to be like a 15 year old?

Merch

Qualitymark wrote: »

I always thought the leapfrog was because I was a woman in a crappy old car, and young fellows (almost always the froggers) couldn't stand to have me go faster than them.

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

If it's an angry young lad, I let him pass and stay well behind until he's forgotten about me, then sneak up, pass him and go well ahead.

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

You sound like you are holding up traffic, reminds me of those people that decide to dictate what speed other road users should do, if the police wont police the sytem then its not your job to, just have some consideration and move out of the way for faster moving traffic, why bother sneak up past them or brake test people? as for hogging the overtaking lane?? I think you dont realise that your driving very likely frustrates other drivers, you seem not to realise that other drivers perceive this as a lack of awareness/consideration on your part.

TheChizler

Maybe what was said about tapping the brakes, but only activating the lights and no braking force actually applied, needs to be reiterated. This would be akin to flashing hazards. Might be better to just flash hazards to remove the chance of misjudging the tap and actually braking. Or indeed the tailgater panicking and braking harshly and hitting their tailgater.

Dare I bring up roundabouts and rush hour driving? The amount of times I've been cut off by people who don't realise that the left lane can go straight on at a local roundabout makes me actually avoid it. They sit there in queues in the approaching centre lane (straight on or right) without realising there's a left or straight on lane to their immediate left. Then of course when you come up on the free lane they decide that their lane can go left and proceed to do in front of you.

Actually does anybody know what you pick up on when you get the feeling you're about to be cut off by someone? The car mightn't be pointing into your lane or even near it but you just get a feeling.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

As opposed to the guy who's hanging off my back?

I'm merely indicating to him he is too close. And I wouldn't be doing that just 'cos 'I feel' he's to close. Thats for the guys who are reading the smallprint on my radio and show no indication of backing off.

It's not great but its the lesser of two evils, I'm actually trying to get out of a dangerous situation.

The lesser of two evils is to slow down further - brake testing someone is criminally dangerous, and you have just shown that you are not a good driver by not only admitting it but continuing to try and defend it.

If you slow down further, the driver behind either gets the message or passes you.

If you brake test them, they either go in to the back of you or slam on the brakes, causing quite serious issues which (unfortunately not from an insurance perspective) are entirely your fault.

Stop doing it.

Boskowski

I've been experiencing this too, I guess everybody does.

I'd say for the most part it's not so much about aggressive drivers but about inability to drive at a constant speed what with uphill and downhill and so on. I rarely meet drivers who seem offended by me overtaking them trying to get 'back at me'. I'd say most people do it without realizing they're doing.

And in fairness while a wee bit annoying at times its not the biggest road offense out there. I wouldn't get riled up over it but mostly notice and go 'ah well'.

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

The lesser of two evils is to slow down further - brake testing someone is criminally dangerous, and you have just shown that you are not a good driver by not only admitting it but continuing to try and defend it.

If you slow down further, the driver behind either gets the message or passes you.

If you brake test them, they either go in to the back of you or slam on the brakes, causing quite serious issues which (unfortunately not from an insurance perspective) are entirely your fault.

Stop doing it.

Before you're criticizing me so vehemently you should maybe actually read my post with a little more attention. Especially the bit where I say 'bring the brake lights on without actually braking'. So how is he/she going to slam into me in that case?

You know you can do that when you just put your foot ever so slightly on the pedal.

Marcin_diy

Qualitymark wrote: »

I have a couple of ways of dealing with tailgaters:

If it's a big truck, I take my foot gently off the accelerator and then gently tap the brake a couple of times, then again a couple of times, to alert them to the fact they're too near - they'll generally back off and then overtake me, usually hopping over the speed limit a little to do so.

You like that feeling of russian roulette game?
to have 40 tons behind you and tap on brake when nothing in a front of you?
What if truck driver decide to change a cd or boil a water for a tea and won't look at the road for one or 2 seconds?

Qualitymark wrote: »

If it's someone who constantly leapfrogs, I change lane, even though it's not correct to be in the overtaking lane, and only move in when someone wants to pass me; usually the frogger gets bored with this and either storms ahead (speed cameras! yaay!) or falls behind, in which case I go back into the correct lane when it's tactful to do so.

There are plenty of people on the roads playing your game then. I can't remember how many times I had to brake just cos somebody was cruising like a snail on overtaking lane, and on many occasions flashlights, or horn did not work, and the only chance to get back to the speed was to undertake car and show middle finger.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Before you're criticizing me so vehemently you should maybe actually read my post with a little more attention. Especially the bit where I say 'bring the brake lights on without actually braking'. So how is he/she going to slam into me in that case?

You know you can do that when you just put your foot ever so slightly on the pedal.

Still introduces the risk of them slamming it on. You are still being criminally dangerous. Why you think that assuming your brakes aren't being applied makes it any better is beyond me - its still a sign of a very bad driver.

Again - stop doing it.

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

Still introduces the risk of them slamming it on. You are still being criminally dangerous. Why you think that assuming your brakes aren't being applied makes it any better is beyond me - its still a sign of a very bad driver.

Again - stop doing it.

Look just because you're not agreeing with me doesn't make me 'criminally dangerous' or a 'very bad driver'. What makes you Mr. Road Authority?

And I'm not assuming, I know.

I would argue that if I don't do that the situation could go on for donkeys, some people are just like that. I'd find it much more dangerous if if I was followed as closely as if I was towing a guy for miles on end.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Look just because you're not agreeing with me doesn't make me a very bad driver. What makes you Mr. Road Authority?

And I'm not assuming, I know.

I would argue that if I don't do that the situation could go on for donkeys, some people are just like that. I'd find it much more dangerous if if I was followed as closely as if I was towing a guy for miles on end.

If you just slow down further the driver will either get the message or overtake you. No risk of causing a serious accident

Whereas if you brake-test them, you run the risk of causing a very serious accident.

You are continuing to claim that a very, very dangerous act could possibly be safe - ergo you are not a good driver.

johnthemull

Calling all Brake Testers. Brake Testing under any circumstances is a dangerous and vindictive practice. There is absolutely no justification for this practice under any circumstances. The next time you feel yourselves compelled to think about carrying this act out, ask yourselves what alternatives you might have. 99.99% of the time it will probably be Get Out Of the way. Try that option next time. Much safer.

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

If you just slow down further the driver will either get the message or overtake you. No risk of causing a serious accident

Whereas if you brake-test them, you run the risk of causing a very serious accident.

You are continuing to claim that a very, very dangerous act could possibly be safe - ergo you are not a good driver.

Right so, let's just assume we're disagreeing and I'm a very bad driver. I'll fit right in, all grand then.

Edit: And btw I'm not a slow driver and I drive a very safe and pretty fast car. So people up on my arse like that are rare and are def'ny far more dangerous than me.

TheChizler

johnthemull wrote: »

Calling all Brake Testers. Brake Testing under any circumstances is a dangerous and vindictive practice. There is absolutely no justification for this practice under any circumstances. The next time you feel yourselves compelled to think about carrying this act out, ask yourselves what alternatives you might have. 99.99% of the time it will probably be Get Out Of the way. Try that option next time. Much safer.

Just wondering what your definition of brake testing is? Genuinely curious.

L1011

TheChizler wrote: »

Just wondering what your definition of brake testing is? Genuinely curious.

Braking (or illuminating brake lights) when there is no need to in an effort to distract/annoy the drivers behind. Frequently done by people who can't think things through when they feel they're being tailgated.

Jimbob 83

The odd brake test is no harm against a tail gater, i notice since i got my focus nobody tailgates me if i rev the engine abit but in the octavia i used to get it all the time and its alot more dangerous than the chance of a brake test going wrong.

+ A brake test doesn't have to be a full jam on just periodic taps of the brake pedal so the lights come on when it's obviously not needed, they soon get the message, there are no absolutes in driving tbh

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

Braking (or illuminating brake lights) when there is no need to in an effort to distract/annoy the drivers behind. Frequently done by people who can't think things through when they feel they're being tailgated.

Well, by your own definition I'm not brake testing then.

I made it very clear on what occasion I would do that. When I'm going at speed and I have someone as close to me as if I was towing them for a prolonged time. And btw I never lane hog and I would always adjust my speed to the road conditions meaning that a lot of the time I would probably break the speed limit (a little) for example on a motorway.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Well, by your own definition I'm not brake testing then.

I made it very clear on what occasion I would do that. When I'm going at speed and I have someone as close to me as if I was towing them for a prolonged time. And btw I never lane hog and I would always adjust my speed to the road conditions meaning that a lot of the time I would probably break the speed limit (a little) for example on a motorway.

No, you just refuse to identify yourself with an accurate definition.

What you are doing is extremely dangerous - you are going to have to accept this. Whether it takes you causing an accident before you do is up to you.

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

No, you just refuse to identify yourself with an accurate definition.

What you are doing is extremely dangerous - you are going to have to accept this. Whether it takes you causing an accident before you do is up to you.

Tailgating is equally dangerous, if tapping the brake pedal afew times w/o actually letting the brakes bite fully teaches someone a lesson that will stay with them a while (and in turn may save their own lives in the future) then its totally worth it.

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

No, you just refuse to identify yourself with an accurate definition.

What you are doing is extremely dangerous - you are going to have to accept this. Whether it takes you causing an accident before you do is up to you.

Sorry its the guy who's up my arse who's causing the potential accident since its obvious if I actually had to brake (for serious cos something happens in front of me, not just illuminate) he'd have no chance in hell. I'm making him aware of that. He is creating the dangerous situation, not me. Don't you see that?

By me tipping the brake lights he's hardly going to go into panic mode make a full uncontrolled slam brake, lose the control over his car, overturn his car into the ditch and take three more cars with him is he?

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

Tailgating is equally dangerous, if tapping the brake pedal afew times w/o actually letting the brakes bite fully teaches someone a lesson that will stay with them a while (and in turn may save their own lives in the future) then its totally worth it.

Report the tailgater to Trafficwatch if you want to "teach them a lesson". DO NOT endanger people needlessly.

Brake-testing someone is never going to cause them to change their behaviour, but it is incredibly dangerous.

Boskowski wrote: »

Sorry its the guy who's up my arse who's causing the potential accident since its obvious if I actually had to brake (for serious cos something happens in front of me, not just illuminate) he'd have no chance in hell. I'm making him aware of that. He is creating the dangerous situation, not me. Don't you see that?

By me tipping the brake lights he's hardly going to go into panic mode make a full uncontrolled slam brake, lose the control over his car, overturn his car into the ditch and take three more cars with him is he?

There are entirely safe ways for you to deal with the tailgater. Zero justification for wilful endangerment. Stop doing it.

And yes, the driver panicking is entirely possible - they're clearly not a particularly good driver either if they're that close.

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

Report the tailgater to Trafficwatch if you want to "teach them a lesson". DO NOT endanger people needlessly.

Brake-testing someone is never going to cause them to change their behaviour, but it is incredibly dangerous.

You like to deal in absolutes i see

/taps brake pedal :pac:

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

You like to deal in absolutes i see

/taps brake pedal :pac:

Whereas you like to deal in needless danger, I see....

Brake-testing is never justifiable as there are plenty of other ways to deal with the situation. That IS an absolute.

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

Whereas you like to deal in needless danger, I see....

Brake-testing is never justifiable as there are plenty of other ways to deal with the situation. That IS an absolute.

If the red lights scare you then back off, it's very simple tbh :pac:

TheChizler

Perhaps the best solution would be to just gradually slow down until they get impatient and overtake? Avoids any sudden, unexpected manoeuvres.

So, roundabouts eh?

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

If the red lights scare you then back off, it's very simple tbh :pac:

?

Do you not realise that brake lights have a very specific purpose? Playing around with them is not one of them.

TheChizler wrote: »

Perhaps the best solution would be to just gradually slow down until they get impatient and overtake? Avoids any sudden, unexpected manoeuvres.

So, roundabouts eh?

It is the best solution. For some reason we have two people here who are completely ignoring it because they like playing with their brake pedals.

Boskowski

Here is the thing, this driver is endangering me. Willfully and needlessly. I want him off my back.
And I don't want him to be just annoyed over yet another driver his not up to his 'driving standards', I want him to know he's doing something wrong.

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Here is the thing, this driver is endangering me. Willfully and needlessly. I want him off my back.
And I don't want him to be just annoyed over yet another driver his not up to his 'driving standards', I want him to know he's doing something wrong.

So JUST SLOW DOWN.

If you want him to "know he's doing something wrong", phone Trafficwatch. Don't do something just as wrong which its highly likely they won't actually understand.

Jimbob 83

MYOB is a tailgater and he once rear ended someone i think while checking the saddle girths on his High Horse

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

MYOB is a tailgater and he once rear ended someone i think while checking the saddle girths on his High Horse

Grow up.

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

Grow up.

Back off /tap tap tap

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

Back off /tap tap tap

Just because you don't like an aspect of your driving in which you are dangerously sub-standard being pointed out doesn't mean there's any "high horse" involved.

There is a correct way to deal with tailgaters, and a seriously incorrect one. You have been doing the latter. This is indisputable.

Boskowski

MYOB wrote: »

So JUST SLOW DOWN.

If you want him to "know he's doing something wrong", phone Trafficwatch. Don't do something just as wrong which its highly likely they won't actually understand.

Ye and from phoning 'trafficwatch' something is actually going to come out of. You're not serious really are you?

Marcin_diy

TheChizler wrote: »

Perhaps the best solution would be to just gradually slow down until they get impatient and overtake? Avoids any sudden, unexpected manoeuvres.

So, roundabouts eh?

Aren't we talking here about tailgaiting on the overtaking lane? lane that is closest to the middle of the road?

L1011

Boskowski wrote: »

Ye and from phoning 'trafficwatch' something is actually going to come out of. You're not serious really are you?

People have been prosecuted and indeed disqualified from Trafficwatch calls.

I could ask how its possible you're serious seeing as you are STILL defending your dangerous driving habits here.

How often are you tailgated anyway?

unkel

Boskowski wrote: »

Sorry its the guy who's up my arse who's causing the potential accident

I'm not condoning tailgating, but your retaliating by pressing the brakes is adding to the chance of there being an accident. Why not just pull into the driving lane and let them overtake you?

Why the need for a "fight"?

And maybe, just maybe, the other party is in a major hurry. On their way to A&E? Who knows. Just let them pass next time please...

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

Just because you don't like an aspect of your driving in which you are dangerously sub-standard being pointed out doesn't mean there's any "high horse" involved.

There is a correct way to deal with tailgaters, and a seriously incorrect one. You have been doing the latter. This is indisputable.

So picking up your phone while driving and becoming distracted taking the reg of someone behind you is the logical way to solve the issue, all while controlling a one and a half ton vehcle moving at 100km/ph.

Yeaaaaaaaaa i think i will keep tapping my brake thanks :pac:

L1011

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

So picking up your phone while driving and becoming distracted taking the reg of someone behind you is the logical way to solve the issue, all while controlling a one and a half ton vehcle moving at 100km/ph.

Yeaaaaaaaaa i think i will keep tapping my brake thanks :pac:

Not my problem you can't remember a fairly short sequence, specifically designed for easy memory. You can also get their plate when they pass, seeing as the safe way to deal with this will involve them eventually passing you.

Same question applies to you - how often do you get tailgated anyway?

Jimbob 83

unkel wrote: »

I'm not condoning tailgating, but your retaliating by pressing the brakes is adding to the chance of there being an accident. Why not just pull into the driving lane and let them overtake you?

Why the need for a "fight"?

And maybe, just maybe, the other party is in a major hurry. On their way to A&E? Who knows. Just let them pass next time please...

They can overtake when it is safe to do so if the legal limit doesn't suit them, pulling over into the layby is just creating an even more dangerous situation (junctions etc)

They can't see if it's clear to overtake up that close anyway, totally pointless behaviour

Jimbob 83

MYOB wrote: »

Not my problem you can't remember a fairly short sequence, specifically designed for easy memory. You can also get their plate when they pass, seeing as the safe way to deal with this will involve them eventually passing you.

Same question applies to you - how often do you get tailgated anyway?

Not very often but in the past alot, the only worse thing than a tailgater is someone who jumps into the gap left by someone maintaining a proper distance back from the person in front

Boskowski

unkel wrote: »

I'm not condoning tailgating, but your retaliating by pressing the brakes is adding to the chance of there being an accident. Why not just pull into the driving lane and let them overtake you?

Why the need for a "fight"?

And maybe, just maybe, the other party is in a major hurry. On their way to A&E? Who knows. Just let them pass next time please...

You may want to read the thread, but let me summarize.

We're not talking me being in the overtaking lane or middle lane and we're not talking lanehogging in any form or shape and we're not talking about educating others about the speed limit either.
We're talking about a situation where I'm in the leftmost lane or not dual carriageway and for some unfathomable reason someone is sitting behind me at high speed as close as if I was towing them for a prolonged time. Doesn't happen often as I'm quite a swiftish driver myself, but it does happen on rare occasions.