5x03 - Hazard Pay [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

Paully D

Found a couple of short preview videos, so thought I'd create a thread to put them in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaGb0-ZYww

Episode synopsis:

Marie confronts Walt over some of his recent actions. Meanwhile, Mike, Jesse, and Walt move forward with their newest business operation.

Looks this episode will be action packed! :cool:

Sorry, I forgot the poll. Hopefully a Mod will be able to include it.

jcf

Looks good, this season is not wasting much time !

Pain in the ass Maria back - let's hope it's a super short scene..

squonk

Ah I kind of like Marie! She had some of the most pointless plot points in the show but she's a great actress and plays the role well. It'll be nice to see her back this season.

Hande hoche!

Looks promising. Saul is probably my favourite character.

JaMarcus Hustle

God damn Breaking Bad, making me look forward to the weekend being over. It's messing with the fabric of my life.

Professional Griefer

YEAH BITCH, MAGNETS OHHHHHH

gnfnrhead

Did they ever do anything more with the shoplifting thing? Skylar found out but Marie kept denying it, did any more ever come of it? I honestly can't remember

djkeogh

Last I remember was when she was going to open houses and telling stories of woe. She got caught and arrested doing that. Don't think there's been anything since.

FloatingVoter

"the dead mackerel eyes", "he probably threatened someone before breakfast this morning"

Could only be Mike. Looking forward to this.:D

shrewdness

Love Huell!

The Scratcher

shrewdness wrote: »

Love Huell!

I was expecting this reaction from Mike....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmLz4LKhqc4

Paully D

Anyone staying up for tonight's episode? Hopefully the links will be better than last week as they were unwatchable.

The Scratcher

Debating it!! Don't fancy the ads though.

Charlie19

Paully D wrote: »

Anyone staying up for tonight's episode? Hopefully the links will be better than last week as they were unwatchable.

Haven't watched any live, I'm watching them in batches of two. Can't wait for next monday

Mr.Saturn

Episode was filled with so many chilling character moments with Walt's veiled threat of offing Mike/Jesse with the Icarus/Victor parable, his black-hearted ratting on Skyler, his initial incapacity to look at Brock, to him actively trying sabotage Jesse's relationship with Andrea, and then coldly dismissing Jesse's reveal of his success to gibber on about his cash. That's before we even get to inevitable Scarface comparison and the brilliantly captured line of Walt "Everybody dies in this movie", whilst Skyler stands on in horror.

Now Walter White stands before us a man utterly lacking in redemption.

Definitely our S5 Pt. 1 Walt episode. Brilliant, excellent, fantabulous episode.

Professional Griefer

No need for the tags!

Agree with it though, was a decent episode. All except for Skyler shouting, such a bitch.

Turpentine

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Episode was filled with so many chilling character moments with Walt's veiled threat of offing Mike/Jesse with the Icarus/Victor parable, his black-hearted ratting on Skyler, his initial incapacity to look at Brock, to him actively trying sabotage Jesse's relationship with Andrea, and then coldly dismissing Jesse's reveal of his success to gibber on about his cash. That's before we even get to inevitable Scarface comparison and the brilliantly captured line of Walt "Everybody dies in this movie", whilst Skyler stands on in horror.

Now Walter White stands before us a man utterly lacking in redemption.

Definitely our S5 Pt. 1 Walt episode. Brilliant, excellent, fantabulous episode.

He wasn't jibbering about his cash, he was cementing his control over Jesse. He'd manipulated Jesse into getting rid of people that he loved .ie. the closest thing to a family. Once that was done Walt basically implied that if he even thought of branching out on his own he'd wind up like Victor.

So many great instances of Walt being cold and detatched in this episode.

Skylar has a breakdown: put her in the soup with her sister for having an affair, then bite into an apple without even checking on Skylar.

Meeting Brock: Looking at him with what was nearly disdain, then encouraging Jesse to drop his surrogate family.

Even the Scarface thing. As soon as I heard it I thought to myself "Ah for god sake, they're labouring it here, Vince Gilligan already made the comparison". But when it pulls back and he's watching it with his kids.

Great episode.

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

All except for Skyler shouting, such a bitch.

Ah now, she has a fair bit on the plate at the moment!

Da Shins Kelly

Skylar's really breaking down! It's crazy how quickly she's transformed from the controlling force in the family to completely subordinate and mentally unstable. She's completely paralyzed with fear, and Walt's throwing her under the bus with regards to Marie is just further putting her under is thumb. Something big is going to happen there. Seems unlikely given how frightened she is of Walt, but it may not be beyond the realm of possibility that she may be the one to rat him out to Hank.

To be honest, I feel like Mike is going to meet a sorry end. Unlike Jesse, who seems to be fairly compliant with everything Walt says and does due to his sense of guilt surrounding the Brock situation, Mike stands in the way of Walt's vision of how things should be going and it seems that in the eyes of Walt, he is presenting a power struggle. I don't think the threat at the end was particularly directed at Jesse, but more a way of filling him in on what he intends to do about Mike should he continue to try to control the business. Mike did deliver my favourite line of the show so far though - 'Just because you killed Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James'.

Not too much attention being given to Jesse so far. Walt's sabotaging of his relationship with Andrea was an awful moment - the whole pretending to be giving honest advice...I still believe that Jesse will "save the day" so to speak. I think he'll make it somehow.

Overall loved the episode - the scene of them cooking in the house with the great soundtrack and the scene with Badger and Skinny Pete (playing amazing piano) in the music shop were both great.

mrkite77

Only Walt can throw a hissy fit over making ~$170k a week.

Palo Alto

I want to see more Skinny Pete piano recitals!

The music shop scene was brilliant - these hands moving so gracefully, playing such beautiful music and the camera pans back, to reveal that it's Skinny Pete. Just such a wonderful moment.

Rosy Posy

Palo Alto wrote: »

I want to see more Skinny Pete piano recitals!

Was hoping that Skinny and Badger would be back- they're a pair of jesters. Think its sad that Jesse is being forced to cut off his mates (the 'look' from Mike) and his girlfriend (blatant manipulation by Walt). He's really changed from the poseur in the ridiculous outfits going on about fat stacks in the first few seasons. Its like since he met Jane he realised there's more to life. Loving seeing his character develop for the better.

Rosy Posy

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Skylar's really breaking down! It's crazy how quickly she's transformed from the controlling force in the family to completely subordinate and mentally unstable. She's completely paralyzed with fear, and Walt's throwing her under the bus with regards to Marie is just further putting her under is thumb. Something big is going to happen there. Seems unlikely given how frightened she is of Walt, but it may not be beyond the realm of possibility that she may be the one to rat him out to Hank.

YESS.... she is backed into a corner- she's realised Walt is a psycho who will kill again and she's repulsed by him but there's nothing she can do to stop him moving back into her home. I wonder if she would take the kids and rat him out to get him out of her life. Although she would be implicated too at least she wouldn't have to live with the twisted fcuk, and Hank and Marie would look after her kids while she was in prison.

Thought the Scarface scene was labouring the point a bit and was shocked that he would watch that with Holly on his lap, the poor child...but maybe that's a topic for the parenting forum...

The Scratcher

This show just gets better and better. The cinematography alone is far far superior this season to any of the previous ones.

Walt really is turning into a despicable character, it's becoming harder and harder to have empathy for him as the show goes on. If Gilligan can pull that out of the bag and have us rooting for the villain at the end of this season again after all he has done it will go down as the greatest show of all time. I think Jesse's character has really developed, I want to see him win, but that Scarface scene leaves me thinking there wont be a happy ending there. "everybody dies in this movie"

Skinny Pete playing the piano, was epic!! I thought Badger was gonna duet with him and then just started scraping at the guitar!! No wonder Twaughthammer never made it!

Did anyone think of this when Skylar ripped into Marie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IIbZ3kdnlo

briany

It seems like Walt is teeing up the problems for himself lately. He agrees to let Mike handle the business end of things even though you can see Walt is clearly not happy with that arrangement. There's a blow up the first time money is apportioned. Not the way you want to be kicking off a business partnership. The meth lab inside a fumigating house is a novel idea but is it really safe? Would they not worry that other residents in the neighbourhood spot these two extra men coming and going and ask a question about it? Mention it in passing. What if someone recognises Walt? What if the cops have noticed the pattern of burglaries that follow these fumigation details and are keeping tabs on the crew?

Skylar will blab. The woman is a walking pressure cooker at this point. She can't realistically withstand her life with Walter and not do so in a moment of weakness. She either does that or is killed by Walt but that would be a step too far for Walt's character, removing any sympathy for him now and forever. Maybe she might abruptly leave town or be committed as an outside third possibility. Wouldn't mind that at all! :pac:

Hande hoche!

Had to laugh at Skylar following up her salad with a cigarette. Will be interesting to see which direction they take.

Palo Alto

It's starting to remind me much more of the Sopranos now in terms of the family dynamic.

Grimebox

Whats the song that plays when they first start cooking in the fumigated house?

Jambo221

Loved the opening scene where Mike hammers on the door, the subtle nod to Gale with the Walt Whitman book and had a good laugh when Jesse grabbed the tortilla :P Beautiful cooking scene too.

Grimebox wrote: »

Whats the song that plays when they first start cooking in the fumigated house?

http://youtu.be/0Vn2i9Vnyas

Grimebox

What was the significance of the final scene? I thought Gus killed Victor because he was the only person to be seen at Gale's apartment right after he died. He was the only person that could be implicated.

BetterCallSaul

Jambo221 wrote: »

the subtle nod to Gale with the Walt Whitman book

I think they were reminding us of that for a reason. When Hank asked Walt who WW might be in season 4. That's going to click with Hank eventually.

Jimmy Iovine

Great episode.

I was delighted to see Jesse Plemons (aka Landry/Lance from Friday Night Lights) making an appearance. He's a brilliant actor. That scene where he tells Walt about the nanny cam gives me hope that he'll get a bit more screen time over the coming weeks. I avoided the casting news a few months back so it was a good surprise to see him here.

Walt is still trying to keep in charge of everything. His line to Saul about Mike was superb, "he handles the business, and I handle him". The line in the car about there being no need for a vote was even better. Then it all comes crashing down at the end when Mike takes practically all of Walt's money.

I really liked the Scarface scene. Walt Jr. annoys the hell out of me with his goody two-shoes approach to everything but Walt was brilliant as usual. His calmness when he said "everyone dies in this movie, don't they?" is pretty scary. Skylar is ****ting herself and I think she sees the same kind of fate awaiting her family.

threein99

Grimebox wrote: »

What was the significance of the final scene? I thought Gus killed Victor because he was the only person to be seen at Gale's apartment right after he died. He was the only person that could be implicated.

Thats what I thought as well, I think Walt is just using that to send a message to Jesse

briany

If Walt was trying to send a message to Jesse, it was out of line. What I had gotten out of the episode up to that point was that Walt wanted to let Jesse know that he respected Jesse's judgement on things. Jesse even tried to smooth over Walt and Mike's spat over money by offering the overheads to be taken entirely from his own share. He also breaks up with Andrea. Sounds committed and loyal enough to me.

On the Wiki synopsis it says "Making less money than they did under Gus (Giancarlo Esposito), a frustrated Walter hints to Jesse that they may need to get rid of people in their operation." From that, I could only glean that he does mean Jesse and greed has finally gotten the better of him, seeing Jesse as an expendable obstacle to greater share in the profit. However, making veiled threats casting aspersions about Jesse's loyalty is bang out of order all the same.

The Scratcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaNI5K5BY6Q

The cooking scene for me was the best cook scene of the program so far. Very well done and the music was perfect!

FloatingVoter

Walt must have an eye on getting rid of Mike. The "legacy money" is Mike's problem - lose him and the jailbirds go away, not to mention Mike's annoying ability to answer back to the teacher:). However Walt will need to get to know the distribution operation first. Oh, and Mike will be two steps ahead on this.

12 more months of this....happy days.

gnfnrhead

Hard to believe this was all only one year.

Also, if Mike stops paying, dont people talk and implement Walt? I'm sure at least one of them will mention him if they talk. I'm surprised Walt didnt think of that during his hissy fit.

The Scratcher

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Also, if Mike stops paying, dont people talk and implement Walt? I'm sure at least one of them will mention him if they talk. I'm surprised Walt didnt think of that during his hissy fit.

I think Walt's thinking is that any problem that arises can be dealt with. Like Gus would have dealt with it. Talking to Jesse about Gus killing Victor & jovially saying "everyone dies in this movie" while watching scar face. I think he now has no value on other peoples lives and will stop at nothing to get his way.

How Soon Is Now

Another great early episode. Its odd seeing how Walt is now and how he started off but i have to say i still like him as a character. Something about how cool he is with everything and he feels no matter what the situation he can find a way out of it i mean hes seem to of done a good job so far!!

In saying that though more then likely he will be caught out in the end he has to surely?

Hes gotten himself way to deep into things on his own merit for anyone to feel bad or sorry for him now but i feel Jesse is the one who seems to always come out the worst in every situation. You can see he clearly trusts Walt and is always there always has his back weather he really needs or wants to.

I hope in the end he comes out of things ok because at this stage i think he deserves it. Hes come so far after all the **** in his life.

Less Maria and Skyler more Hank to be honest. The more i see of either of those too just annoys me. I have no compassion and feel nothing for either as a character the sooner then better Skyler is gone dead or in some kinda nut house.

I agree with what someone else posted she more then likely will rat Walt out and if this happens i hope she pays for it.

Like i said before im so glad to see her fall and fall hard she was nothing but a controlling bitch from the start. Walt was the quite hard working husband she was the mouth. He finds out he has cancer and risks everything to try and provide for his family. She cheats on him. She then finds out what hes been doing goes ape **** and again trys to control everything has Walt jump backwards threw hoops.

So **** her im happy to see her broken and scared nice to see her finally put in her place. Best possible outcome for me would be her whole family turning on her or her ending up dead.

FloatingVoter

Nah - Mike and his newly adopted son Jesse to rule as undiisputed kingpins of a global meth empire (with a sideline in Yamaha keyboards and silly hats). With Hank as deputy Head of Security.

Walt and his Missus to wind up on the funny farm.

Should have been a screenwriter, me.

Da Shins Kelly

angerfist2009 wrote: »

the sooner then better Skyler is gone dead or in some kinda nut house.

I agree with what someone else posted she more then likely will rat Walt out and if this happens i hope she pays for it.

Like i said before im so glad to see her fall and fall hard she was nothing but a controlling bitch from the start. Walt was the quite hard working husband she was the mouth. He finds out he has cancer and risks everything to try and provide for his family. She cheats on him. She then finds out what hes been doing goes ape **** and again trys to control everything has Walt jump backwards threw hoops.

So **** her im happy to see her broken and scared nice to see her finally put in her place. Best possible outcome for me would be her whole family turning on her or her ending up dead.

Bit much. Sure, in the in the beginning she was controlling and certainly the more dominant force in the family, but it's not as though it's any better now. A relationship is supposed to be about equality. It wasn't about equality then, and it certainly isn't now. Yeah, Skylar was controlling, but she didn't incite fear in the way that Walt does now. He is an egotistical, borderline sociopath. So it's okay for Walt to make no secret of the crimes he's committed (and even takes some pride in it), throw Skylar under the bus with regards to her sister and use his position as "drug king pin" to manipulate and force Skylar into submission, but Skylar's the one who needs to be "put in her place"? What is "her place" anyway? Terrified wife and mother?

Varied

Another great episode, Walt is letting Jesse know whos boss at the end.

Paully D

Didn't really hear the very last part when Walt was speaking about Victor to Jesse. Can someone give me a quick breakdown of what was said to make Jesse look like he had seen a ghost? Thanks.

The Pontiac

Inside Breaking Bad: Season 5 Episode 3 "Hazard Pay"

Commentary from Vince Gilligan and cast.

Our man in Havana

Was average enough this week.

Palo Alto

It's weird, comment will have been made before; but this show took some perserverance. I was not sold on Season 1. It took halfway through Season 2 and since then it escalated meteorically.

It's the first time I've been following a show as it peaks and not ex post facto.

A real pleasure.

Tipsy McSwagger

Paully D wrote: »

Didn't really hear the very last part when Walt was speaking about Victor to Jesse. Can someone give me a quick breakdown of what was said to make Jesse look like he had seen a ghost? Thanks.

Walt compared Victor (Gus cut his throat) trying to cook a batch on his own to Icarus flying too close to the sun. What he means is their cockiness got them killed. It was a thinly veiled warning to Jesse not to get any ideas above his station and Walt is the main man.

threein99

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Another great early episode. Its odd seeing how Walt is now and how he started off but i have to say i still like him as a character. Something about how cool he is with everything and he feels no matter what the situation he can find a way out of it i mean hes seem to of done a good job so far!!

In saying that though more then likely he will be caught out in the end he has to surely?

Hes gotten himself way to deep into things on his own merit for anyone to feel bad or sorry for him now but i feel Jesse is the one who seems to always come out the worst in every situation. You can see he clearly trusts Walt and is always there always has his back weather he really needs or wants to.

I hope in the end he comes out of things ok because at this stage i think he deserves it. Hes come so far after all the **** in his life.

Less Maria and Skyler more Hank to be honest. The more i see of either of those too just annoys me. I have no compassion and feel nothing for either as a character the sooner then better Skyler is gone dead or in some kinda nut house.

I agree with what someone else posted she more then likely will rat Walt out and if this happens i hope she pays for it.

Like i said before im so glad to see her fall and fall hard she was nothing but a controlling bitch from the start. Walt was the quite hard working husband she was the mouth. He finds out he has cancer and risks everything to try and provide for his family. She cheats on him. She then finds out what hes been doing goes ape **** and again trys to control everything has Walt jump backwards threw hoops.

So **** her im happy to see her broken and scared nice to see her finally put in her place. Best possible outcome for me would be her whole family turning on her or her ending up dead.

I get the impression you're not a Skyler fan :P

Da Shins Kelly

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Walt compared Victor (Gus cut his throat) trying to cook a batch on his own to Icarus flying too close to the sun. What he means is their cockiness got them killed. It was a thinly veiled warning to Jesse not to get any ideas above his station and Walt is the main man.

I really didn't get that it was specifically directed at Jesse. Jesse is not the one who is the problem here, he is firmly under Walt's thumb at the moment. It's Mike who is presenting an issue with his seizing control of the business side of things. I felt that it was more a way of Walt using the Victor/Icarus analogy to tell Jesse that Mike may have to go should he continue to behave as though he is in control. It may be that it's a warning to both Jesse and Mike, but Jesse is definitely not Walt's biggest problem here right now.

Smarmy

Good episode again. Strange ending but I really don't think that Walt was threatening Jesse at the end, I'm pretty sure he was hinting that Mike may have to be dealt with and planting that idea in his head. He seems to be treating Jesse a lot more respectfully this season, he talks of trusting him to make the right decisions and talks with him like an equal rather than talking down to him and condescending to him like in seasons past.

Had to laugh at Skyler screaming at Marie to SHUT UP as that's exactly what was going on in my head when she was yakking. Skyler is close to breaking point though. I wonder will she turn Walt in.

Great to see Skinny Pete and Badger again.

gnfnrhead

Needs a poll.

Smarmy wrote: »

Good episode again. Strange ending but I really don't think that Walt was threatening Jesse at the end, I'm pretty sure he was hinting that Mike may have to be dealt with and planting that idea in his head. He seems to be treating Jesse a lot more respectfully this season, he talks of trusting him to make the right decisions and talks with him like an equal rather than talking down to him and condescending to him like in seasons past.

I reckon he is manipulating him. Look at the big show he put on with the ricen. He knows if he can convince Jesse that they are equals then he wont be at risk of turning on him. Walt is clearly in charge but has convinced Jesse that he values his input when he already knows what he is doing anyway. I think it was to make Jesse question Mike since Mike and Jesse are so friendly.