Roscommon vs. Kerry Minor Quarter Final Match Thread

RoscommonTom

I couldnt find a thread for this so said id start one. So I believe this match will be on the bank holiday weekend, hopefully its not in crocker as would be a dear day out. Does anyone know when its decided?Should be a great game. Rossies not As strong as other years I think so i hope they dont under estimmate the Kerry fellas.

Syferus

Haven't a hope against the Kerry miners, Arigna is long closed so we won't be match-fit.

RoscommonTom

Feck it, I dont know how to fix it, help someone?

Clareman

You have to edit the thread rather than the post I think, I'm not sure if regular posters can modify it or only mods, I'll have a check on another thread in another forum that I created

Edit: Doesn't look like you can, if you want to have a thread title changed simply report the first post asking for a mod to change it, probably the easiest way to do it

RoscommonTom

Thanks for your help clareman

Clareman

No bother, us mods are here to server

Orizio

Kerry aren't supposed to be great this year, but you'd never know with that lot. Personally I hope the Rossies win, Micky Ned's behaviour towards the Tipp sideline in the Munster final was disgusting.

Syferus

Would be hoping for Croker honestly. AI QF weekend is the most exciting time of the football calender and I'm fancying going up to catch one of the days anyways, if they could tie in our minor match that'd just be gravy. It helps that our minors are so well supported, so there's a decent shout of us being tied in with Kerry's senior QF (pending Clare) to fill out a few thousand seats more.

Syferus

Orizio wrote: »

Kerry aren't supposed to be great this year, but you'd never know with that lot. Personally I hope the Rossies win, Micky Ned's behaviour towards the Tipp sideline in the Munster final was disgusting.

Hmm? What happened?

buyer95

Syferus wrote: »

Hmm? What happened?

Feck all, more anti-kerry bias, Micky Ned is a great football man, who brought on Limerick a pile when he was over them.

A word of warning in writing of this kerry minor team, they have come on a mile since their first game against Tipp, and in all fairness ran Tipp very close in the final, just not able to sustain Tipp's physical dominance at the start of the second half. I fully expect Kerry to come through this, they have some very dangerous forwards, and with Ronan Murphy back at centre back after missing the final against Tipp with an injury, I expect the team to have much to much for the boys from Roscommon, and if they happen to meet Tipp for a third time in an All Ireland final, my money would be on the Kingdom...:cool:

RoscommonTom

Syferus wrote: »

Would be hoping for Croker honestly. AI QF weekend is the most exciting time of the football calender and I'm fancying going up to catch one of the days anyways, if they could tie in our minor match that'd just be gravy. It helps that our minors are so well supported, so there's a decent shout of us being tied in with Kerry's senior QF (pending Clare) to fill out a few thousand seats more.

That might be the case syferus, was hoping it would be somewhere else cos a trip to dublin, it isn't the cheapest especially if we also get to the semis. I presume the snrs will be 2 double headers so might get our moneys worth if there are a few games,

Syferus

buyer95 wrote: »

Feck all, more anti-kerry bias, Micky Ned is a great football man, who brought on Limerick a pile when he was over them.

A word of warning in writing of this kerry minor team, they have come on a mile since their first game against Tipp, and in all fairness ran Tipp very close in the final, just not able to sustain Tipp's physical dominance at the start of the second half. I fully expect Kerry to come through this, they have some very dangerous forwards, and with Ronan Murphy back at centre back after missing the final against Tipp with an injury, I expect the team to have much to much for the boys from Roscommon, and if they happen to meet Tipp for a third time in an All Ireland final, my money would be on the Kingdom...:cool:

We have more than enough to occupy Kerry minds. I fancy whoever come out of the Roscommon/Kerry/Dublin/Monaghan side of the draw to win the AI - only once in the last 40 years has a minor team retained its title. In a close game that extra bit of hunger might be what separates teams. Mayo are a good team whose forwards can't score, Tyrone didn't look terribly impressive in the Ulster final but only a fool would write them off at this grade, maybe Tipp don't even get the final.

The majority of the teams in the QFs have the potential to go on a run and win the AI.

ohyesthefinest

Panel v Panel Kerry would shade it (some classy forwards Savage etc.) but because the Kerry Minor Championship is ongoing and there were a few tough games tonight wheras Roscommon postponed theres until after the county team finish im going to put my money on Roscommon,

buyer95

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Panel v Panel Kerry would shade it (some classy forwards Savage etc.) but because the Kerry Minor Championship is ongoing and there were a few tough games tonight wheras Roscommon postponed theres until after the county team finish im going to put my money on Roscommon,

This isnt the same as senior football though, these fellas are 17 and 18, and matches would if anything improve sharpness,imo

Always_Running

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Panel v Panel Kerry would shade it (some classy forwards Savage etc.) but because the Kerry Minor Championship is ongoing and there were a few tough games tonight wheras Roscommon postponed theres until after the county team finish im going to put my money on Roscommon,

Pardon my ignorance but how would a Kerryman know how strong a Roscommon (visa versa) minor panel is?

Syferus

If we use Tipp as common element we were as to them last year as Kerry were in any of their three championship meetings over the past 13 months or so.

There's very little between the teams and if anything we're mild favourites on the strength of back-back Connacht titles and our recent track record at underage. We're 4/7 and Kerry are 7/4, if I recall correctly.

I don't think either team will get much mileage out of being stronger or weaker, favourites or underdogs.

Fr Tod Umptious

Kerry have had ample opportunity to get their team sorted out at this stage.

The Muster Council have a weird system where Munster Quarter Finals looser get the back door to get to the semi-final.

So Kerry have already lost to Tipp in the quarters and then again in the final

So this is their second back door

buyer95

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kerry have had ample opportunity to get their team sorted out at this stage.

The Muster Council have a weird system where Munster Quarter Finals looser get the back door to get to the semi-final.

So Kerry have already lost to Tipp in the quarters and then again in the final

So this is their second back door

In other news the sky is blue, jesus wept, and Kerry defeated Tyrone on Sunday.

Thanks for stating the blindingly obvious!

Fr Tod Umptious

buyer95 wrote: »

In other news the sky is blue, jesus wept, and Kerry defeated Tyrone on Sunday.

Thanks for stating the blindingly obvious!

Oh I'm sorry did I offend you ?

I am just pointing out, for people who may not be aware of it, the oddity of the Munster (and Leinster) back door systems, that gives teams the possibilty to be beaten twice yet still arrive at an All Ireland quarter final.

buyer95

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Oh I'm sorry did I offend you ?

I am just pointing out, for people who may not be aware of it, the oddity of the Munster (and Leinster) back door systems, that gives teams the possibilty to be beaten twice yet still arrive at an All Ireland quarter final.

I think you misread my attempt at humour, and got offended. I was only yanking your tail, us Kerry men eh, nah this should be a great game between 2 good teams, but on the evidence of Kerry's performance in the first half against Tipp, and on the strength of the forwards, I reckon Kerry will do it.

That said, I know very little about this Roscommon minor team

bruschi

buyer95 wrote: »

Feck all, more anti-kerry bias, Micky Ned is a great football man, who brought on Limerick a pile when he was over them.

A word of warning in writing of this kerry minor team, they have come on a mile since their first game against Tipp, and in all fairness ran Tipp very close in the final, just not able to sustain Tipp's physical dominance at the start of the second half. I fully expect Kerry to come through this, they have some very dangerous forwards, and with Ronan Murphy back at centre back after missing the final against Tipp with an injury, I expect the team to have much to much for the boys from Roscommon, and if they happen to meet Tipp for a third time in an All Ireland final, my money would be on the Kingdom...:cool:

what is anti Kerry bias about a manager of a minor team roaring at his counterpart "what do ye know about football, last year was a one off"

premierstone

bruschi wrote: »

what is anti Kerry bias about a manager of a minor team roaring at his counterpart "what do ye know about football, last year was a one off"

Exactly and that is percisely what happened, I was shocked tbh as Mickey Ned has been involved in football a long time and I never heard anything negative like this before, pressure of been beaten by Tipp twice in the one year obviously got to him, he certainly went down alot in my estimation that day, David Powere was fit to throttle him and had to be restrained

buyer95

bruschi wrote: »

what is anti Kerry bias about a manager of a minor team roaring at his counterpart "what do ye know about football, last year was a one off"

Exactly the kind of stuff you expect to hear in the heat of the battle, Micky Ned is a good man and coach who let his emotions get the better of him momentarily... It was obviously a disrespectful thing to say, but was blown out of all proportion, imo

premierstone

buyer95 wrote: »

Exactly the kind of stuff you expect to hear in the heat of the battle, Micky Ned is a good man and coach who let his emotions get the better of him momentarily... It was obviously a disrespectful thing to say, but was blown out of all proportion, imo

But you called it anti-kerry bias, its not, its people reporting exactly what happened, and if anyone showed bias it was Mickey Ned.

premierstone

7/4 is pretty big on Kerry imo, if they can sustain for 60 mins the way they played in the first half in the Munster Final they will be hard to beat.

Always_Running

premierstone wrote: »

7/4 is pretty big on Kerry imo, if they can sustain for 60 mins the way they played in the first half in the Munster Final they will be hard to beat.

Or if they fall away like they did in the 2nd half of the Munster final 7/4 will be fair enough odds.

68Murph68

Always_Running wrote: »

Or if they fall away like they did in the 2nd half of the Munster final 7/4 will be fair enough odds.

They were up against a very good Tipp side.

I think it was something like 11 from last years winning squad featured for Tipp.

That's a huge amount of experience at minor level.

Syferus

bruschi wrote: »

what is anti Kerry bias about a manager of a minor team roaring at his counterpart "what do ye know about football, last year was a one off"

Sounds like Mickey Ned fuelled the comeback more than anyone else. Crazy sort of jip to come out of someone so experienced. It's an attitude certain to motivate any team Mickey Ned is playing against.

68Murph68

Syferus wrote: »

Sounds like Mickey Ned fuelled the comeback more than anyone else. Crazy sort of jip to come out of someone so experienced. It's an attitude certain to motivate any team Mickey Ned is playing against.

In fairness it is a very out of character for Mickey Ned to behave like that, so I really wouldn't judge him that harshly.

I'd imagine he's delighted with how well Limerick performed this year even though he's no longer involved with them.

Overall I don't think it had anything to do with the result. Tipp started playing 3 at midfield and took over there. That's what fuelled Tipp's comeback. Kerry didnt really react to this change at all.

Always_Running

68Murph68 wrote: »

They were up against a very good Tipp side.

I think it was something like 11 from last years winning squad featured for Tipp.

That's a huge amount of experience at minor level.

Kerry got within a point of Tipp last year and were leading by 11 points. It debatable if Tipp are better than last year.

padd b1975

premierstone wrote: »

Exactly and that is percisely what happened, I was shocked tbh as Mickey Ned has been involved in football a long time winning cock all as a manager and I never heard anything negative like this before, pressure of been beaten by Tipp twice in the one year obviously got to him, he certainly went down alot in my estimation that day, David Powere was fit to throttle him and had to be restrained

FYP.

Syferus

RoscommonTom wrote: »

I couldnt find a thread for this so said id start one. So I believe this match will be on the bank holiday weekend, hopefully its not in crocker as would be a dear day out. Does anyone know when its decided?Should be a great game. Rossies not As strong as other years I think so i hope they dont under estimmate the Kerry fellas.

I couldn't disagree more. Man-for-man this is one of the best underage squads we've produced. The last two games saw us win playing badly by our standards but if we're able to beat Galway and Mayo playing badly you know we're doing something right. The backs really improved since the first day out against Leitrim where they looked vulnerable, while the forwards, bar Murtagh, had two off days from the boot after that game. We've game winners in Daly, Harney, Corcoran, Smith, Finn, Compton and Murtagh, if we can hit it off like we did for the first 15 against Mayo we're capable of some seriously pacey and expansive football.

There's great belief in the squad and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing them take another stab at the AI championship. There's nothing better for the heart than underage football.

Always_Running

Syferus wrote: »

I couldn't disagree more. Man-for-man this is one of the best underage squads we've produced. The last two games saw us win playing badly by our standards but if we're able to beat Galway and Mayo playing badly you know we're doing something right. The backs really improved since the first day out against Leitrim where they looked vulnerable, while the forwards, bar Murtagh, had two off days from the boot after that game. We've game winners in Daly, Harney, Corcoran, Smith, Finn, Compton and Murtagh, if we can hit it off like we did for the first 15 against Mayo we're capable of some seriously pacey and expansive football.

There's great belief in the squad and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing them take another stab at the AI championship. There's nothing better for the heart than underage football.

Two off days in a row, maybe they are not as good as you originally thought? This year's Roscommon team will have to be on par with Tipp to defeat Kerry.

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

Two off days in a row, maybe they are not as good as you originally thought? This year's Roscommon team will have to be on par with Tipp to defeat Kerry.

We were two points off them last year and our squad is better this year. We played better football in the minor league with some of our big guns missing and even in the Leitrim game, albeit we ended that as a contest early we continued to pile on throughout the match, which is exactly the ruthlessness you need to show to have any chance in the latter stages of the championship. Even in the Galway game we were very good in open play but we took too many bas shots and it almost cost us big time. The strangest thing is that perhaps our worst performance of the season netted us a second successive Connacht title. That's not to disrespect to Mayo - it'd have made for a very interesting ending to the game if Mayo's forwards showed any guile in front of the posts.

Enda Smith and Thomas Corcoran, two of our key players from last season, only returned from injuries for the Leitrim game. Kevin Finn, another key player, only returned from injury as a sub against Galway in the last minor league game. Finn and Smith are the co-captains of the team and Corcoran is a real leader on the field. Cathal Compton, probably one of the most exciting players on the team, has been bothered by a knee injury since before the championship began. They've now had six weeks, three games and one extra-time to re-integrate themselves and establish consistency. This is the time of the year where all the little flashes and good runs of play have to knit together into a complete performance.

premierstone

padd b1975 wrote: »

FYP.

Bit harsh, he won 3 u-21 munster titles in a row and one AI, a Munster senior title with Kerry and did fantastic work with Limerick.

megadodge

I'm actually quite worried by Roscommon's continuing problems at midfield. It's all so similar to last year where we were wiped out by both Armagh and Tipp in this sector.

Thomas Corcoran has shown outstanding bottle when it comes to freetaking, but I feel he has been well below average with his general play this year. He should have been taken off against Mayo. We need a fully fit Cathal Compton and by the looks of it (taken off in both the last two games while very heavily strapped) I wouldn't count on him finishing this game either. He is the sort of half-forward (alongside Smith) who can win independent ball at midfield in the air and on the ground and he has fantastic all-round footballing ability. I think he's being played when others wouldn't be, simply because he's so good, but the longterm damage to his knee has got to be taken into consideration.

Murtagh has been the main man all year, but we need more from Finn, who has excellent ball-winning ability if fed right. I'm not sure how Gunning is, he has loads of ability also but has been injured more often than not this year. That full-forward line is potentially devastating, but...

The backs have been improving as a unit with each game and hopefully that will continue.

Anyway, here's hoping.

Syferus

I think winning the ball in the middle isn't a huge issue, Corcoran only returned from injury with the Leitrim game so if anything he should be fully up to speed now, six weeks later. The ref in the Connacht final took an instant dislike to him and called him on far too many niggly fouls, something that would obviously colour peoples' opinion of his play. His talents and temperament are made for the All-Ireland championship, though. Ultan Harney is verging on being our player of the year so far outside Murtagh, great at winning ball in the air and on the ground.

Compton is spectacular in the air too, his weakness has been translating those balls into incisive passes. He may have been took off against Galway but it was his reintroduction in extra-time that swung the game our way. He hit a few good passes early against Galway but foul trouble rather than simply injury meant Caroll yanked him early.

I think we'll win plenty of ball in the middle, the deciding factor will be our forwards playing for longer than 15 minutes at the level we know they're capable of.

megadodge

Syferus wrote: »

I think winning the ball in the middle isn't a huge issue, Corcoran only returned from injury with the Leitrim game so if anything he should be fully up to speed now, six weeks later. The ref in the Connacht final took an instant dislike to him and called him on far too many niggly fouls, something that would obviously colour peoples' opinion of his play. His talents and temperament are made for the All-Ireland championship, though. Ultan Harney is verging on being our player of the year so far outside Murtagh, great at winning ball in the air and on the ground.

Compton is spectacular in the air too, his weakness has been translating those balls into incisive passes. He may have been took off against Galway but it was his reintroduction in extra-time that swung the game our way. He hit a few good passes early against Galway but foul trouble rather than simply injury meant Caroll yanked him early.

I think we'll win plenty of ball in the middle, the deciding factor will be our forwards playing for longer than 15 minutes at the level we know they're capable of.

Winning the ball in the middle most definitely WAS a big issue for the final 2/3s of the Mayo match. And let's not forget this Mayo team was not highly rated.

I've no idea what you mean or how you figured out that the ref "took a dislike" to Corcoran. All I know was at one stage as Ros were still dominating, he was correctly pulled for overcarrying as he was looking for a soft free, he mouthed off about it and the ball was brought forward making it a scorable free where it wasn't originally. Mayo scored. Only minutes later a Mayo player was fumbling the ball just outside the Ros square, bent to pick it while surrounded by 3 defenders, but Tom bundled him over for an obvious and utterly needless free. Easy point. They were two points given away by very poor discipline from (at this level) a very experienced player. He was on the ball very little and considering he is one of the marquee players I have been very disappointed with him this year. I sure don't want to sound too negative about him, as I really believe he has excellent free-taking bottle, but he just needs to up the ante in the general play stakes.

Your idea that Compton is not seriously injured is at odds with virtually everyone 'in the know' in Roscommon. Why was he taken off v Mayo if he wasn't injured? He was playing well yet again. I really hope the lad's knee isn't permanently damaged.

Syferus

megadodge wrote: »

Winning the ball in the middle most definitely WAS a big issue for the final 2/3s of the Mayo match. And let's not forget this Mayo team was not highly rated.

I've no idea what you mean or how you figured out that the ref "took a dislike" to Corcoran. All I know was at one stage as Ros were still dominating, he was correctly pulled for overcarrying as he was looking for a soft free, he mouthed off about it and the ball was brought forward making it a scorable free where it wasn't originally. Mayo scored. Only minutes later a Mayo player was fumbling the ball just outside the Ros square, bent to pick it while surrounded by 3 defenders, but Tom bundled him over for an obvious and utterly needless free. Easy point. They were two points given away by very poor discipline from (at this level) a very experienced player. He was on the ball very little and considering he is one of the marquee players I have been very disappointed with him this year. I sure don't want to sound too negative about him, as I really believe he has excellent free-taking bottle, but he just needs to up the ante in the general play stakes.

Your idea that Compton is not seriously injured is at odds with virtually everyone 'in the know' in Roscommon. Why was he taken off v Mayo if he wasn't injured? He was playing well yet again. I really hope the lad's knee isn't permanently damaged.

Where exactly did I say he wasn't significantly injured? The fact is he picked up a yellow just before he was subbed out the last day and it's pretty clear that played a role in the substitution, not just concerns about his knee. They rested him completely in the Leitrim game, subbed out with 25 to go against Galway and subbed back in for the last 10 or so in extra-time. They're managing his injury very astutely and I wouldn't be all all worried that they'll push him too far.

No doubt we faded in the middle in the second half but it's not like we don't have the pieces to exert serious control, it's simply not the main issue we should be focused on, we've run too many good attacking plays into the tackle and ended up moving to worse scoring positions or losing the ball entirely. For forward lines with players like Murtagh, Smith, Finn and Compton, nevermind attack-minded players like Corcoran, Harney and Daly that shouldn't be happening.


Beyond that:

The match has been confirmed for 12pm on Sunday next in Croke Park, part of a triple bill with Cork-Kildare and Donegal-Kerry. We really lucked out there, the two most attractive senior QFs and another opportunity for our minors to get even more comfortable with HQ. It should be an absolutely wonderful day of football.

megadodge

Syferus wrote: »

The fact is he picked up a yellow just before he was subbed out the last day and it's pretty clear that played a role in the substitution, not just concerns about his knee. They rested him completely in the Leitrim game, subbed out with 25 to go against Galway and subbed back in for the last 10 or so in extra-time. They're managing his injury very astutely and I wouldn't be all all worried that they'll push him too far.

You seem to think if a person gets a yellow it's an automatic subbing. If that was the case most teams would need a lot more than 5 subs.

The only thing that was pretty clear was that he was hurting as he was taken off. Speaking from personal experience you just don't f*ck around with knee injuries. I think he shouldn't be playing.

Always_Running

Syferus wrote: »

Where exactly did I say he wasn't
The match has been confirmed for 12pm on Sunday next in Croke Park, part of a triple bill with Cork-Kildare and Donegal-Kerry. We really lucked out there, the two most attractive senior QFs and another opportunity for our minors to get even more comfortable with HQ. It should be an absolutely wonderful day of football.

Major boost for Kerry minors that this game is fixed for Croke park. It's the lift they needed after the Munster final defeat and Savage,Sheehy,Keane,Murphy now have the opportunity to showcase their skills in HQ.

Syferus

megadodge wrote: »

You seem to think if a person gets a yellow it's an automatic subbing. If that was the case most teams would need a lot more than 5 subs.

The only thing that was pretty clear was that he was hurting as he was taken off. Speaking from personal experience you just don't f*ck around with knee injuries. I think he shouldn't be playing.

As I said three times now, it was a combination of both. I'd actually say teams in all grades, and especially at minor and u21 where there isn't a huge gap in experience between the starters and subs, are too slow to respond to foul trouble with substitutions.

Compton is a very important part of the puzzle going forward, if anything he's a better ball winner than either midfielder the lad is absolutely stunning in the air. Even if he's only 85% we need to use him in some manner as he's the sort of player who can win a game for you, as he did against Galway both in the league and championship.

No one is trying to take advantage of him and I'm sure he's getting regular therapy on his knee - it's far more about what's going on the rest of the week that dictates the condition of the knee than the 50 minutes or so he's on the field. I'd be confident in believing they're taking it very easy on the knee in training. If he didn't feel up to it or he didn't want to be playing he wouldn't be out there at all.

What happened to Cathal Shine last year was terrible, over-played and seriously injured because of it. We've clearly learnt a lesson with how we've handled Compton's injury this year.

Always_Running wrote: »

Major boost for Kerry minors that this game is fixed for Croke park. It's the lift they needed after the Munster final defeat and Savage,Sheehy,Keane,Murphy now have the opportunity to showcase their skills in HQ.

It'll be a bunch of these lads' fourth outing at Croke Park in the last year. Amazing that we're going in to play Kerry and we're the experienced ones. You can be sure our lads got a huge lift when they heard they'd be playing at HQ, it's where every player at every grade wants to be.

buyer95

In all seriousness, I firmly believe Kerry will quite easily negotiate this Roscommon team, after foing a bit of research. Apparently they havn't impressed in any game and limped their way to a connaught championship beating poor Mayo and Galway teams.

Kerry have improved in every game since they played Tipp 3 months ago, and should have beaten Tipp in the Munster Final, but at the start of the second half were over ran. and ended up losing by 3. I would expect no such difficulties agasinst the Rossies, and it all points to Kerry Tipp final...

Syferus

Oh, the merry dance you play.

Always_Running

buyer95 wrote: »

In all seriousness, I firmly believe Kerry will quite easily negotiate this Roscommon team, after foing a bit of research. Apparently they havn't impressed in any game and limped their way to a connaught championship beating poor Mayo and Galway teams.

Kerry have improved in every game since they played Tipp 3 months ago, and should have beaten Tipp in the Munster Final, but at the start of the second half were over ran. and ended up losing by 3. I would expect no such difficulties agasinst the Rossies, and it all points to Kerry Tipp final...

You do know the winner of this game will play Dublin (sorry Monaghan no disrespect) the All Ireland favourites in the semi final?

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

You do know the winner of this game will play Dublin (sorry Monaghan no disrespect) the All Ireland favourites in the semi final?

Tipp would be the best team in it right now. Dublin's odds are always inflated, particularly in minor grades where very few betting or even those making the books know the relative quality of the teams and Dublin's sheer amount of punters skews the odds in their favour, if anything it only proves a hindrance on the big days.

All that said I'd be surprised to see Tipp retain the AI, at least four teams can can go on a run and win it and others like Mayo have a chance to put their hands up next weekend.

The thing that makes minor so special is that despite anyone's posturing no one can be at all confident in the shape any round of games will take.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

We get a great day's football in here after our game with Cork v Kildare and Donegal v Kerry - €30 (or less) ain't half bad! Pity our throw-in time is so early, 12pm is a bit of a pain, especially for any Kerry fans making the journey but I suppose you couldn't have Cork or Donegal playing at 7pm and expect the fans to leave Dublin for Ardara/Dunfanaghy/Bantry/Clonakilty at that hour.

Saturday evening mass will be feckin' jammed!

nice_guy80

Saturday and Sunday nights in Coppers will be good craic

RoscommonTom

It will be a dear day out I think, does anyone know will their be buses going from ros town.

megadodge

Syferus wrote: »

As I said three times now, it was a combination of both. I'd actually say teams in all grades, and especially at minor and u21 where there isn't a huge gap in experience between the starters and subs, are too slow to respond to foul trouble with substitutions.

Compton is a very important part of the puzzle going forward, if anything he's a better ball winner than either midfielder the lad is absolutely stunning in the air. Even if he's only 85% we need to use him in some manner as he's the sort of player who can win a game for you, as he did against Galway both in the league and championship.

No one is trying to take advantage of him and I'm sure he's getting regular therapy on his knee - it's far more about what's going on the rest of the week that dictates the condition of the knee than the 50 minutes or so he's on the field. I'd be confident in believing they're taking it very easy on the knee in training. If he didn't feel up to it or he didn't want to be playing he wouldn't be out there at all.

What happened to Cathal Shine last year was terrible, over-played and seriously injured because of it. We've clearly learnt a lesson with how we've handled Compton's injury this year.

Just heard this morning from a very good source that COMPTON IS OUT FOR UP TO FIVE WEEKS!!

So much for learning from Cathal Shine.

Plus he wasn't even close to 85%. The same source knows the Comptons very well and told me his father was very, very unhappy that he was played in the Connacht final at all. And that was BEFORE the match.

IMO he is a future county senior and that has potentially been put at risk and it's not even a case of short term gain, as he was taken off so early against Mayo and was in obvious pain.

I think it was very irresponsible playing him.

Stinicker

deccurley wrote: »

We get a great day's football in here after our game with Cork v Kildare and Donegal v Kerry - €30 (or less) ain't half bad! Pity our throw-in time is so early, 12pm is a bit of a pain, especially for any Kerry fans making the journey but I suppose you couldn't have Cork or Donegal playing at 7pm and expect the fans to leave Dublin for Ardara/Dunfanaghy/Bantry/Clonakilty at that hour.

Saturday evening mass will be feckin' jammed!

I've often left Kerry at half four in the morning and it could be 5 the following morning by the time when you'd be back home after a big game and maybe have to go out and do a days work after that. Tis Kerry were used to it.