Israel pushing for World War III: Military analyst.

Run_to_da_hills

I think at this stage we can no longer take this as a conspiracy but I will post it anyway.

Nothing would surprise us of fundamentalist Zionist aggression from what we have witnessed in the past. Between the ruthless attacks on Lebanon, West Bank and not to mention the USS Liberty and of course 9/11.

Something big has to blow soon, will it be an attack on the Olympic Games, Damascus or the USS Enterprise in the coming weeks?

"An American military analyst says by using its international assets to launch “false-flag” terror attacks against certain targets and by framing Iran, Israel is bent on making the US attack the Islamic Republic and fomenting World War III, Press TV reports.

“We are watching a plan take shape, one devised in Tel Aviv, making use of ‘assets’ around the world, meant to culminate in orchestrated ‘false-flag’ terror attacks which Israeli influence in the media, vast influence, can use to create an atmosphere enabling an attack on Iran by the United States,” Gordon Duff said in an article published on Press TV website.

Referring to recent botched attempt on the life of the US State Secretary Hillary Clinton during her visit to Israel and subsequent attack on a bus in Bulgaria carrying Israeli tourists, the author said such terror attacks were in fact planned by Israel in order to incriminate Iran and incite the world’s public opinion against it.

The analyst added that the situation in the Persian Gulf denotes that although there is no rationale for Iran to wish for any confrontation, the stage is set by Israel and the US in such a way that such a confrontation would be inevitable".

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/21/252077/israel-pushing-for-world-war-iii/

Myrddin

How would a US attack on Iran, instigate a world war?

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I think at this stage we can no longer take this as a conspiracy but I will post it anyway.

Nothing would surprise us of fundamentalist Zionist aggression from what we have witnessed in the past. Between the ruthless attacks on Lebanon, West Bank and not to mention the USS Liberty and of course 9/11.

Something big has to blow soon, will it be an attack on the Olympic Games, Damascus or the USS Enterprise in the coming weeks?

The most likely prediction you've made all year month week today



SpaceJews vs Enterprise - let the war for earth begin.

Jonny7

EnterNow wrote: »

How would a US attack on Iran, instigate a world war?

Oh dear god don't!!!

Myrddin

Jonny7 wrote: »

Oh dear god don't!!!

Can worms opening?

aloyisious

Crosses multiple items in hope that those of religious belief in positions of power (psychotics with "God is on our side" fixations) don't get the twitchy-finger urge to push their national Red Button.

JustinDee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I think at this stage we can no longer take this as a conspiracy but I will post it anyway.

Nothing would surprise us of fundamentalist Zionist aggression from what we have witnessed in the past. Between the ruthless attacks on Lebanon, West Bank and not to mention the USS Liberty and of course 9/11

Oh ffs . . .
And then you go quoting a known and constantly disproven conspiracist on Ahmadinijad's own English-language media outlet on top of that??

Run_to_da_hills

JustinDee wrote: »

Oh ffs . . .
And then you go quoting a known and constantly disproven conspiracist on Ahmadinijad's own English-language media outlet on top of that??

As I said in the OP, its hardly a conspiracy as its becoming kind of evident at this stage.

The Zionist controlled and influenced multi national news corporations are hardly going to come up with a story like this.

JustinDee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

As I said in the OP, its hardly a conspiracy as its becoming kind of evident at this stage.

The Zionist controlled and influenced multi national news corporations are hardly going to come up with a story like this.

Jewish-owned does not equal "Zionist-owned", fella.
The sooner people like you and Mahmoud Ahmadinijad understand that, the better.

studiorat

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Nothing would surprise us of fundamentalist Zionist aggression from what we have witnessed in the past. Between the ruthless attacks on Lebanon, West Bank and not to mention the USS Liberty and of course 9/11.

The Majestic Plural could be construed as delusions of grandeur....

Run_to_da_hills

JustinDee wrote: »

Jewish-owned does not equal "Zionist-owned", fella.
The sooner people like you and Mahmoud Ahmadinijad understand that, the better.

I know well the difference between Jewish and Zionist extremist (Globalist)

Or should I rephrased that to Zionist globalist agenda influenced media outlets.

hooradiation

Jonny7 wrote: »

The most likely prediction you've made all year month week today



SpaceJews vs Enterprise - let the war for earth begin.

eh, the Ferengi were never much of a threat, I think we're good.

Quatermain

hooradiation wrote: »

eh, the Ferengi were never much of a threat, I think we're good.

But how about these boyos?

JustinDee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I know well the difference between Jewish and Zionist extremist (Globalist)

Or should I rephrased that to Zionist globalist agenda influenced media outlets.

In other words, 2 plus 2 equals Jew.
Seriously, could this "agenda" be any more paranoid??

stuar

EnterNow wrote: »

How would a US attack on Iran, instigate a world war?

A US attack on Iran would more than likely include an attack on Syria, Lebannon, possibly other locations too.

There will be a swift response from Iran, Hezbollah, Syria (those chemical weapons they supposedly have and supposedly said they would use against outside nations), Israel will be under attack from various locations with a variety of weapons never seen before, under these circumstances I believe the zionist regime would resort to the Samson Option.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

There's the very real chance Russia or China get involved, NATO, all hell would break loose. Poland/Czech missile shield sites would be attacked spreading the war, UK obviously involved, the whole middle east would be dragged in, Egypt, north Africa maybe.

How does a man in Tunisia setting himself on fire instigate a wave of murder, destruction, toppling of regimes/govt's like domino's from Tunis to Damascus, and this:
"Mrs Clinton said the pace of events was accelerating inside Syria and called on the opposition to be prepared for a transition of power, adding that it was not yet too late for President Assad himself to prepare for such a handover..............?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18973719

Jonny7

Quatermain wrote: »

But how about these boyos?

Well as long as they are the "good" ones then they are okay.

Run_to_da_hills

Zen Gardener gives a good analysis of this current delicate situation.

"If it was any more obvious, the headlines would flip and tell the truth for once. But they won’t. Zionist warlord Netanyahu and company are working hard at laying the groundwork for a Mossad attack somewhere with the usual misdirect to those they want to invade and kill as the villains.

Just as they did with 9/11 via complicit oligarchs and their war machine stooges.

And the mindless masses will fall for it. Oh, many are waking up but still not enough to scream the alarm like everyone should. Nevertheless, the alternative media awareness increases daily as do its adherents and those new to the wake up of all this staged insanity".

http://www.zengardner.com/beware-blood-thirsty-zionists-final-set-iran-trap/

JustinDee

Great and what does David Icke think of it? On-Myo-Ji? Galloway?

Jonny7

JustinDee wrote: »

Great and what does David Icke think of it? On-Myo-Ji? Galloway?

I already know what Galloway thinks of it without even having to ask.

studiorat

Jonny7 wrote: »

I already know what Galloway thinks of it without even having to ask.

You could listen to the other two for days and still not know what they are thinking...

Run_to_da_hills

Israeli tourists are flocking to vantage points in the Golan Heights to take a glimpse of ongoing battle in Syrian, the Times of Israel reported on Tuesday.

The report got a lot of attention following the visit of Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak to Golan Heights to personally witness the escalating battle in the war-torn neighboring country. Local TV channels aired images of the minister watching the shelling of Jobata al-Khashab across the Syrian border.

According to the Israeli newspaper, an increasing number of Israelis could be seen, carrying binoculars and cameras, visiting the Golan Heights to watch the ongoing clashes.

The war-watchers had to content themselves with listening to the sound of explosions and exchange of gunfire, which were more common reported by Hurriyet Daily News.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m89842&hd=&size=1&l=e

JustinDee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Israeli tourists are flocking to vantage points in the Golan Heights to take a glimpse of ongoing battle in Syrian, the Times of Israel reported on Tuesday.

The report got a lot of attention following the visit of Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak to Golan Heights to personally witness the escalating battle in the war-torn neighboring country. Local TV channels aired images of the minister watching the shelling of Jobata al-Khashab across the Syrian border.

According to the Israeli newspaper, an increasing number of Israelis could be seen, carrying binoculars and cameras, visiting the Golan Heights to watch the ongoing clashes.

The war-watchers had to content themselves with listening to the sound of explosions and exchange of gunfire, which were more common reported by Hurriyet Daily News.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m89842&hd=&size=1&l=e

Short on news, eh?
Have you ever been to the Golan Heights?? How many people do you think would get in?
"Israeli tourists"? Really? Not even a chance of just being "tourists in Israel"?

Minister for Defence inspecting borders is hardly news either.

Poor effort . . .

Run_to_da_hills

JustinDee wrote: »

Short on news, eh?
Have you ever been to the Golan Heights?? How many people do you think would get in?
"Israeli tourists"? Really? Not even a chance of just being "tourists in Israel"?

Minister for Defence inspecting borders is hardly news either.

Poor effort . . .

We might even have spectacular trips to view the mushroom cloud.

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

We might even have spectacular trips to view the mushroom cloud.

But what is the link between bible prophecies and conspiracy theories?

Its a conspiracy between God and .. ?

JustinDee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

We might even have spectacular trips to view the mushroom cloud.

I'm sure if you were a tourist there, you'd just look away from Syrian direction and wouldn't be curious in the slightest.
Did you find out where the little group of tourists are actually from, by the way? Didn't think so.

Run_to_da_hills

JustinDee wrote: »

I'm sure if you were a tourist there, you'd just look away from Syrian direction and wouldn't be curious in the slightest.
Did you find out where the little group of tourists are actually from, by the way? Didn't think so.

I couldn't give a damn where they came from, you get them everywhere.

stuar

German intel.: Qaeda behind terror in Syria
The German Federal Intelligence Service (BND) has revealed that al-Qaeda is responsible for numerous terrorist attacks in Syria, including the Houla massacre.

The BND estimates that al-Qaeda has carried out “about 90 terrorist attacks” in Syria between late last December and early July, German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung wrote in an article on July 16.

The revelation was made public by the German government in response to a parliamentary question.

The German government also confirmed that it had received numerous reports from the BND on al-Qaeda’s involvement in the May 25 massacre in the Syrian town of Houla in the central province of Homs, in which 108 people, including dozens of children and women, were killed execution-style.

However, the German government stated that the reports were supposed to remain classified "by reason of national interest."

The West and the Syrian opposition blamed the Syrian government for the carnage, but a Syrian government-appointed fact-finding mission had said that armed groups had carried out the massacre to frame the government and foment sectarian strife.

The intelligence reports raise several questions about the terrorist nature of the self-proclaimed Free Syrian Army, and even more so about the fact that many of the armed terrorists, killed in clashes with Syrian security forces, carried foreign passports.

On Thursday, The New York Times published an article, stating that “the evidence is mounting that Syria has become a magnet for Sunni extremists, including those operating under the banner of al-Qaeda.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/26/252950/bnd-qaeda-behind-terror-in-syria/

German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria
In response to the same question, the German government admitted that it had received several reports from the German foreign intelligence service, the BND, on the May 25 massacre in the Syrian town of Houla. But it noted that the content of these reports was to remain classified "by reason of national interest", Like many other Western governments, Germany expelled Syria's ambassador in the immediate aftermath of the massacre, holding the Syrian government responsible for the violence.

Meanwhile, at least three major German newspapers - Die Welt, the FAZ, and the mass-market tabloid Bild - have published reports attributing responsibility for the massacre to anti-government rebel forces or treating this as the most probable scenario.

Writing in Bild, longtime German war correspondent Jurgen Todenhofer accused the rebels of "deliberately killing civilians and then presenting them as victims of the government". He described this "massacre-marketing strategy" as being "among the most disgusting things that I have ever experienced in an armed conflict". Todenhofer had recently been to Damascus, where he interviewed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for Germany's ARD public television.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html

Here's the original article, in German:
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/neue-erkenntnisse-zu-getoeteten-von-hula-abermals-massaker-in-syrien-11776496.html

A Syrian Bloodbath Revisited:
Searching for the Truth Behind the Houla Massacre
Initially, the United Nations was convinced that the Syrian government was behind the brutal Houla massacre. But then, some began to have doubts. SPIEGEL traveled to the town to interview survivors and witnesses -- and was able to reconstruct the horrifying slaughter.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-look-back-at-the-houla-massacre-in-syria-a-845854.html

Is it just me or has al-Qaeda suddenly become the good guys of sorts?

McCain declares support for FSA, requests safe zone for rebels
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Jul-06/179519-mccain-declares-support-for-fsa-requests-safe-zone-for-rebels.ashx#ixzz21mWD5WYe

'Free Syrian Army' Shelling City Of Aleppo
This is not happening according to the propagandists. Terrorists randomly shelling Aleppo, July 12th 2012.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0ba_1342479635&comments=1

When the United Syrian Opposition are not killing soldiers/civilians, they often kill each other, they are numerous groups that openly hate each other, have had gun battles amongst themselves when things were quiet.

Obama Allying with Al Qaeda Terrorists; Moves to Increase Arms to Syrian Rebels

Since deadly unrest gripped Syria more than a year ago, the government has frequently blamed its foreign enemies for directing a destructive militant attack against country. Now a growing number of western media reports are proving just that.

---

Posted on July 24, 2012 by friendsofsyria
The Obama Administation is increasing lethal aid to Syrian rebels and will openly move toward direct military support of the Syrian opposition fighters that are carrying out daily attacks, including massacres of civilians, report a number of Washington-based intelligence sources.
Even though U.S. intelligence knows that the most active Syrian fighters are affiliates and co-thinkers with Al Qaeda, the White House is so frustrated and determined to get rid of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad—without Congressional approval, or even UN Security Council approval, that they are increasing—with the Saudis—the pace of arming the Al Qaeda.
http://friendsofsyria.wordpress.com/

Jonny7

JustinDee wrote: »

I'm sure if you were a tourist there, you'd just look away from Syrian direction and wouldn't be curious in the slightest.
Did you find out where the little group of tourists are actually from, by the way? Didn't think so.

But it's okay if the Jordanians are looking across their border.

shedweller

Couple of posts in and i'm thinking about " The Sentinels" from the matrix!

weisses

Where there is smoke

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/48941/World/Region/Israel-denies-Obama-aide-shared-Iran-war-plan.aspx

aloyisious

It'd be interesting to see if Mitt is given a tourist-trip to the OP to have a look in daylight real-time, and whether he'll make some pronouncement - promise of what he'll do for a loyal ally if he get's into the WH.

shedweller

aloyisious wrote: »

It'd be interesting to see if Mitt is given a tourist-trip to the OP to have a look in daylight real-time, and whether he'll make some pronouncement - promise of what he'll do for a loyal ally if he get's into the WH.

I think it's obvious what he'll do:

.......the U.S. should stand firmly behind Israel if it chooses military action to thwart Iran's progression toward a nuclear weapon.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-na-romney-israel-20120730,0,6152337.story
He wont get into the white house if he doesn't look after israel and their all powerful lobby. Any politician that raises questions about them gets ridiculed and ousted quickly. so they tow the line.

Same as it ever was.

Jonny7

shedweller wrote: »

Any politician that raises questions about them gets ridiculed and ousted quickly. so they tow the line.

No they don't. There have been plenty of outspoken critics.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

No they don't. There have been plenty of outspoken critics.

Could you define "plenty" please?

And could you put on estimate on the percentage of "outspoken critics" amongst sitting senators and congressmen and give reasons for your figures.

Thanks.

Jonny7

And could you put on estimate on the percentage of "outspoken critics" amongst sitting senators and congressmen and give reasons for your figures.

Yup, my estimate is... plenty.

However, just one should suffice to refute the following point

Any politician that raises questions about them gets ridiculed and ousted quickly. so they tow the line.

Obama criticised, why hasn't he been ousted?

francois

PressTV is Iran's government mouthpiece, Gordon Duff the "expert" cited has no credibility whatsoever.

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/911_conspiracy_theories_report.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_3

Brown Bomber

francois wrote: »

PressTV is Iran's government mouthpiece, Gordon Duff the "expert" cited has no credibility whatsoever.

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/911_conspiracy_theories_report.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_3

:pac:
The Irony!

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

Yup, my estimate is... plenty.

However, just one should suffice to refute the following point



Obama criticised, why hasn't he been ousted?

I didn't make that point.

You still haven't defined "plenty". You still haven't supported your unsubtantiated claim in any meaningful way.

Is it actually "plenty" or do you withdraw the claim. If you stand by your claim below then please clarify:

And could you put on estimate on the percentage of "outspoken critics" amongst sitting senators and congressmen and give reasons for your figures.

francois

Brown Bomber wrote: »

:pac:
The Irony!

Indeed, and deliberately so, just to show that throwing out links from biased sources does not constitute proof of anything

shedweller

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/j-street-s-ben-ami-u-s-congressmen-live-in-fear-of-pro-israeli-intimidation-1.430842

(Many American senators and congressmen “keep quiet” and refrain from criticizing Israeli policies because they “live in fear” and are “intimidated” by pro-Israeli groups such as the Emergency Committee for Israel (ECI), according to J Street founder and President Jeremy Ben-Ami.)

Was it something like this, Jonny? It's from "your sides" paper too!

bennyineire

Can anyone here tell me why Isreal would want to push for WW3 and what the hoped objective and outcome of such a war would be

JustinDee

bennyineire wrote: »

Can anyone here tell me why Isreal would want to push for WW3 and what the hoped objective and outcome of such a war would be

They don't. They're in a particularly and unpopularly nasty covert war with certain Arabic and Persian neighbours. The last thing they need is an all-in.

Bray Header

EnterNow wrote: »

How would a US attack on Iran, instigate a world war?

China and Russia would get involved. This would trigger more conflict across the middle east, then put USA vs China head to head, battleground most likely to be Africa

Jonny7

shedweller wrote: »

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/j-street-s-ben-ami-u-s-congressmen-live-in-fear-of-pro-israeli-intimidation-1.430842

(Many American senators and congressmen “keep quiet” and refrain from criticizing Israeli policies because they “live in fear” and are “intimidated” by pro-Israeli groups such as the Emergency Committee for Israel (ECI), according to J Street founder and President Jeremy Ben-Ami.)

Ah this is a change from your original quote. Politicians live in fear of everything from making a racist remark, to "misspeaking", to spelling the word "potatoes" wrong.

Politicians will not however be ousted by making a negative remark on Israel, that's a little OTT.

Was it something like this, Jonny? It's from "your sides" paper too!

What you mean my side? I hope you aren't presuming I take sides with the Israeli government based on one correction

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I didn't make that point.

You still haven't defined "plenty". You still haven't supported your unsubtantiated claim in any meaningful way.

Is it actually "plenty" or do you withdraw the claim. If you stand by your claim below then please clarify:

I said there have been plenty of outspoken critics, then the Spanish inquisition arrived (expectedly) with a change of goal posts asking for percentages and reasons why.

So I'll just repeat what I said, there are plenty of politicians who have been outspoken (critically) on Israel and haven't been suddenly found themselves out of work..

Off the top of my head - Kucinich, McKinney, Buchanan, Ron Paul, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nader.. then there is Barbara Lee, Barney Frank, Chuck Hagel even Bush and Condi Rice have had a go.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

I said there have been plenty of outspoken critics, then the Spanish inquisition arrived (expectedly) with a change of goal posts asking for percentages and reasons why.

So I'll just repeat what I said, there are plenty of politicians who have been outspoken (critically) on Israel and haven't been suddenly found themselves out of work..

Off the top of my head - Kucinich, McKinney, Buchanan, Ron Paul, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nader.. then there is Barbara Lee, Barney Frank, Chuck Hagel even Bush and Condi Rice have had a go.

Bush, Obama, Clinton...outspoken critics on Israel...:pac:

As for McKinney,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8cFnSHO5IY

To look at the current state of affair all we have to do is look at the results of the vote on HR 4133 which commits the US amongst other things to protect Israel as a "Jewish state".
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll225.xml

SEC. 3. STATEMENT OF POLICY.

It is the policy of the United States:
(1) To reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.

Where is Sam Harris or the rest of the pseudo-militant atheist when you need them???

Anyway, here are the results:

Those in favour -

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Ackerman
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Altmire
Amash
Amodei
Andrews
Austria
Baca
Bachus
Baldwin
Barletta
Barrow
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (CA)
Bass (NH)
Becerra
Benishek
Berg
Berkley
Berman
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonamici
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boren
Boswell
Boustany
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Braley (IA)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Brown (FL)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canseco
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carter
Cassidy
Castor (FL)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cohen
Cole
Conaway
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (KY)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Deutch
Diaz-Balart
Dicks
Doggett
Dold
Doyle
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Engel
Farenthold
Farr
Fattah
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Fudge
Gallegly
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grijalva
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hall
Hanabusa
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Heinrich
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Israel
Issa
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Jenkins
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly
Kildee
Kind
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kissell
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Langevin
Lankford
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Long
Lowey
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Luján
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Maloney
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (CA)
McCarthy (NY)
McCaul
McClintock
McCotter
McDermott
McGovern
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
McNerney
Meehan
Meeks
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Mulvaney
Murphy (CT)
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Olver
Owens
Palazzo
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paulsen
Pearce
Pelosi
Pence
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Petri
Pingree (ME)
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Polis
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Quayle
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Reyes
Ribble
Richardson
Richmond
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (AR)
Ross (FL)
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Runyan
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Scalise
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schrader
Schwartz
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott (VA)
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sessions
Sewell
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Sires
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Southerland
Speier
Stearns
Stutzman
Sullivan
Sutton
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tierney
Tipton
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Van Hollen
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Walberg
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Walsh (IL)
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
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Webster
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West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (FL)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
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Woodall
Yarmuth
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)

Those against - (your so called "plenty")

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Dingell
Paul

Can you see the difference?

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Bush, Obama, Clinton...outspoken critics on Israel...:pac

Were they ousted?

Can you see the difference?

So those two who voted nay, will they be ousted?

I am refuting someone else's point. As for politicians, as I said before, there have been plenty who have been critical of Israel

hooradiation

Apparently, disagreeing with Israeli policy is not something you can do on a case by case basis and more of a vocational thing.

Who knew?

Border-Rat

EnterNow wrote: »

How would a US attack on Iran, instigate a world war?

Iran is de-facto alligned with Russia and China. Iran will also shut down the Strait of Hormuz, strike Israel, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan and Afghanistan. The UK is another Country that'll be involved because, well, they have a track record of 1 war per decade and are quite frankly war mongers.

aloyisious

I'm getting worried about the way Israel and Iran are sparring verbally more often of late and I am mindful of Winston Churchill's maxim "Jaw, Jaw is better that War, War". There's more in today's papers where it's reported the Israeli Defence Minister as saying it will attack Iran's Nuclear programme sooner or later.

The Syrian mess is reaching across into Lebanon on Israel's northern border. After a member of a (pro-Syrian Govt) Lebanese-based militia was taken hostage by the Syrian Rebel Army, the militia took up to 20 Syrians hostage in Lebanon for the return of their clan-member.

It didn't take long for that to have ripple-effects. On Wednesday, an Air France passenger jet due to land in Beirut couldn't do so, due to fighting on the airport runway. The pilot opted to fly to Amman in Jordan but was low in fuel, so he flew to Damascus, in Syria. There he found he (initially) couldn't refuel as (due to UN sanctions) Air France had had it's fuel payment rights there cancelled and had to ask his passengers for cash or use of their credit cards to pay for the fuel. The passengers weren't too happy as their plane was surrounded by angry looking soldiers. They eventually got fuel and went back to Beirut.

Israel has had an Iranian proxy-army (Hiz;b'Allah) on it's Northern border for decades now, and while the Syrian Army no longer has a presence in Lebanon, there's enough of a liable threat to Israel there for senior Israeli Govt and IDF staff to feel worried.

While the world is watching Syria, just next door is a state which Iran would like to eliminate. The Iranian President commented the other day that Israel is a stain upon humanity.

Run_to_da_hills

If This Document Is Correct Israel's Attack On Iran Would Be Like Nothing Seen Before

American blogger Richard Silverstein claims to have acquired an "Israeli briefing document" that outlines an Israeli attack on Iran and its nuclear facilities. While the validity of the report is seriously in question, it does outline a rather spectacular 21st century attack. Arutz Sheva translated the document from its original Hebrew and writes:

The Israeli attack on Iran “will begin with a coordinated strike, including an unprecedented cyber-attack which will totally paralyze the Iranian regime and its ability to know what is happening within its borders. The internet, telephones, radio and television, communications satellites, and fiber optic cables leading to and from critical installations will be taken out of action. The electrical grid throughout Iran will be paralyzed and transformer stations will absorb severe damage from carbon fiber munitions which are finer than a human hair, causing electrical short circuits whose repair requires their complete removal.”

Following the coordinated strike, according to the document, “A barrage of tens of ballistic missiles would be launched from Israel toward Iran. 300km ballistic missiles would be launched from Israeli submarines in the vicinity of the Persian Gulf. The missiles would not be armed with unconventional warheads [WMD], but rather with high-explosive ordnance equipped with reinforced tips designed specially to penetrate hardened targets.

“The missiles will strike their targets—some exploding above ground like those striking the nuclear reactor at Arak–which is intended to produce plutonium and tritium—and the nearby heavy water production facility; the nuclear fuel production facilities at Isfahan and facilities for enriching uranium-hexaflouride. Others would explode under-ground, as at the Fordo facility.

“A barrage of hundreds of cruise missiles will pound command and control systems, research and development facilities, and the residences of senior personnel in the nuclear and missile development apparatus,” continues the document exposed by Silverstein. “Intelligence gathered over years will be utilized to completely decapitate Iran’s professional and command ranks in these fields.”

The "document" goes on to say that after the initial attacks, Israeli satellites will pass over Iran to gauge the damage. Then:
"Only after rapidly decrypting the satellite’s data, will the information be transferred directly to war planes making their way covertly toward Iran. These IAF planes will be armed with electronic warfare gear previously unknown to the wider public, not even revealed to our U.S. ally. This equipment will render Israeli aircraft invisible. Those Israeli war planes which participate in the attack will damage a short-list of targets which require further assault.”

The news of the "leak" is blossoming around the Web, but David Cenciotti at The Aviationist brings his experience to bear on the subject and offers some of the most unique insights that conclude with the likelihood it's all nothing more than speculation. Regardless, his evaluation is worth checking out here

http://www.businessinsider.com/if-this-document-is-correct-israels-attack-on-iran-would-be-like-nothing-ever-seen-before-2012-8