Thinking of setting up an EBAY page.

fmoy

Hi, I'm thinking of setting up an Ebay page. I'd prefer not to mention what I'll be selling. I've been following sellers in the UK and they are selling up to a hundered items a week. I realize that the UK would be a much bigger market and thus would generate more sales. I was just wondering that if I were to sell more or less the same products in Ireland at the same price, do you think it would be successfull. Is Ebay that popular in Ireland.? People seem to use Donedeal more then most sites! I'd appreciate any replies. Thanks

allthedoyles

If you want reach an Irish audience faster , Then DD or Adverts.ie

Of course , eBay also attracts many Irish bidders / buyers and you would have less queries / communication .

Might need to underprice the UK seller , to start with anyway .- But you could offer faster shipping to Irish buyers than your UK counterpart.

Do a search on eBay.ie to ensure there are no Irish sellers cheaper than you .

Take the exchange rate into account plus of course eBay fees and paypal fees ( around 15% )

This weekend is free listings for auction type listings on eBay

fmoy

Thanks for the reply. There isn't anyone on Ebay.ie selling the products that I sell. I have an Adverts.ie account so maybe I can try that out first to see how it goes on the Irish market.

allthedoyles

Best of luck - adverts is more of a bargaining centre , and most buyers prefer to pay by cash , collect item , or send on a postal order ( from our experience anyway )

Nearly all eBayers use Paypal , and there is no bargaining / communication , unless you have problems after sale ( we find anyway )

fmoy

Ya I know the way Adverts works but I would have a 'buy it now' with no offers below asking price. So I presume you have an Ebay shop, would you recommend setting up one.?

allthedoyles

Don't have shop , buy a lot of experience selling on eBay .

If all your products are in the one category , there's not much point on opening shop , but of course you only pay €20 per month fees .

To open basic shop , you need to be Paypal verified and have a positive feedback score of at least 10.

fmoy

Ok thanks for your replies. I suppose the best thing to do would be to put up 5 or 6 ads and see is there a demand for them first before I decide on a shop. Thanks again.

Joe10000

allthedoyles wrote: »

Don't have shop , buy a lot of experience selling on eBay .

If all your products are in the one category , there's not much point on opening shop , but of course you only pay €20 per month fees .

To open basic shop , you need to be Paypal verified and have a positive feedback score of at least 10.

Do you have to pay sales commission fees on top of the 20 a month ?

allthedoyles

Joe10000 wrote: »

Do you have to pay sales commission fees on top of the 20 a month ?

Yes indeed , you pay the usual 10% final value fees up to a maximum of €95

All eBay sellers, including those with eBay Shops subscriptions, pay Listing and Final Value Fees. These Listing and Final Value Fees vary based on the listing format (Auction-style or Buy It Now).

fmoy

Hi again, I have another few questions. I had a look at posting fees today and they seem quite high. I presume that I would have to register as a business user to avail of cheaper prices. I will need to upload about 6 pictures for each ad which increases the fees alot.

How does it work with image hosting as this is suppose to be considerably cheaper.?

The ad that I was going to put up came to €6.50 so far and the 'buy it now' price will be €18. There will also be the selling fee. With a posting fee like this it isn't worth my while trying to make a profit..

If I were to create a shop the posting fee would surely come down drastically.? Thanks for your time.

fmoy

Just realised that I clicked on the wrong picture setting, the ad is now only costing €1.40 + final selling fee..

Celeron Media

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe10000
Do you have to pay sales commission fees on top of the 20 a month ?

Yes indeed , you pay the usual 10% final value fees up to a maximum of €95

What Ebay are you selling on ? Final value fees are not 10% on Ebay. They do differ in catagories or by seller status (private, business, powerseller bronze, silver, gold & titanium) but not at 10%.

A basic shop is €19.99 plus your normal listing & final value fees. My Ebay billing is around €150 - €300 per month depending on my sales proformance for the month, I wish there was a max of €95.


Do plenty of market research on the items your are planning to sell before investing. To reach irish buyer's sell on Ebay.ie and also Adverts.ie. Most of your sales traffic will come from Ebay but you will get a few from adverts also but that would be depending on your market & target audience.

fmoy

Thanks for the reply. Yes I have researched the field and feel quite confident on sales. The one problem I am having is to find a way of getting cheap postage for my products.

The combined weight pf each is roughly 125g. Who would be the cheapest option to go with, An Post.?

Celeron Media

The combined weight pf each is roughly 125g. Who would be the cheapest option to go with, An Post.?

An post is the cheapest for small items unfortunately.
If your items are under 25mm you can send as a large envelope for €1.50 (weight over 100g but not 250g)

If the depth exceeds 25mm the item will have to be sent as a packet for €3.00 (weight over 100g but not 250g)

You also have to take into account the cost of envelopes and paypal fees 3.5% if you are accepting paypal.

petecork

Celeron Media wrote: »

What Ebay are you selling on ? Final value fees are not 10% on Ebay. They do differ in catagories or by seller status (private, business, powerseller bronze, silver, gold & titanium) but not at 10%.

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/sell/fees.html

According to link above private sellers do pay 10% for all sales and for business sellers it varies between 5% and 12% depending on the product category

Celeron Media

Hmm...I have a different price list on my dashboard (just checked). I'm charged €0.13 for listing and 3% final value fee but my account is a business shop account with silver powerseller status. I heard the rates for sellers were due to change but I didn't think they would increase by double since last month.

blahblah06

I've been 10% for ages as a business seller. Don't know how your getting 3%

fmoy

Celeron Media wrote: »

An post is the cheapest for small items unfortunately.
If your items are under 25mm you can send as a large envelope for €1.50 (weight over 100g but not 250g)

If the depth exceeds 25mm the item will have to be sent as a packet for €3.00 (weight over 100g but not 250g)

You also have to take into account the cost of envelopes and paypal fees 3.5% if you are accepting paypal.

Would sending unregistered packets be safe enough do you think.?

allthedoyles

fmoy wrote: »

Would sending unregistered packets be safe enough do you think.?

Unregistered packets are quite safe in the hands of An Post , however you will have no proof the item was successfully delivered , if you receive a claim.

fmoy

Thanks for the reply allthedoyles. Just wondering with an Adverts.ie shop, if a listing is posted with 5 items available and none of them were not sold on the site, would the selling fees stil have to be paid to Adverts.?

Gormal

In the case of mailings.

Put a disclaimer in your listing that although you can ship via standard mail you will not be responsible for items damaged or lost in the post. Get a Proof of posting certificate written out with the recipients address on it etc. The post office will give you some to take home so you can fill them in and hand them over with each item when you ship them, that way all they have to do is stamp then and give them back to you with the receipts.
This will cover you in the event of a claim. Especially if you offer both registered and standard and the buyer chooses the latter.

fmoy

Thanks for the reply Gormal, I'll make a note of this.

allthedoyles

Gormal wrote: »

In the case of mailings.

Put a disclaimer in your listing that although you can ship via standard mail you will not be responsible for items damaged or lost in the post. Get a Proof of posting certificate written out with the recipients address on it etc. The post office will give you some to take home so you can fill them in and hand them over with each item when you ship them, that way all they have to do is stamp then and give them back to you with the receipts.
This will cover you in the event of a claim. Especially if you offer both registered and standard and the buyer chooses the latter.

Are you sure that just proof of postage will win a claim ..-?

Gormal

I can't say 100% ask at the counter the next time you're there. I think I remember being told that if it goes missing that you get no compensation when sending abroad. so depending on the value of the goods you might just want to register everything.

Quiz the counter staff about the different services/options available.

Jesus Shaves

It won't, the seller is responsible until the item arrives at the buyers address
Proof of postage isn't proof of delivery

fmoy

Celeron Media wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe10000
Do you have to pay sales commission fees on top of the 20 a month ?

What Ebay are you selling on ? Final value fees are not 10% on Ebay. They do differ in catagories or by seller status (private, business, powerseller bronze, silver, gold & titanium) but not at 10%.

A basic shop is €19.99 plus your normal listing & final value fees. My Ebay billing is around €150 - €300 per month depending on my sales proformance for the month, I wish there was a max of €95.


Do plenty of market research on the items your are planning to sell before investing. To reach irish buyer's sell on Ebay.ie and also Adverts.ie. Most of your sales traffic will come from Ebay but you will get a few from adverts also but that would be depending on your market & target audience.

Hi again, I just had a look on your Adverts.ie shop. Do you mind me asking how you can ship most items for just 55c and others free of charge. I presume these aren't registered.?

Celeron Media

Hi again, I just had a look on your Adverts.ie shop. Do you mind me asking how you can ship most items for just 55c and others free of charge. I presume these aren't registered.?

Yeah sure. Most of my items are sent by standard shipping worldwide because I believe 99% of buyer are genuine. But items over the value of about €50 upwards I would send by registered shipping which to be honest, it is at the buyers expense so that wouldn't be a loss to any business. So lower priced items are sent by standard and expensive items by registered.

Potential buyers will run away from listings if the P&P is too high. A lot of people would suggest send everything registered post but you will notice a huge decline in sales. For example: Item price €5 + €8 P&P is a deal breaker in eCommerce.

Every item I send is weighed and measured, so I know the cost of shipping before advertising P&P costs and shipping.

For the items I ship at 55c. 55c is just the cost of the stamp, so I include the cost of the packing in the item price. And the items I send with free P&P, I can afford to deduct the cost of postage from the item sale price. Offering free postage on items will increases your chance of your being discovered by a wider audience with the best match SEO on Ebay anyway. And the majority of users on adverts like to see the words free, just take a look at the free section and I quote "Me PLZ".

It's perfectly safe to send items by standard with an post but the odd item will get undelivered for a multiple of reasons but if there low value items it's not a huge loss and on the plus side you would have already made a good bit of capital profit to cover that loss when it does occur. Just never jump to the conclusion that a buyer is trying to scam you when they tell you that the item hasn't arrived because most of the time it's a genuine case of the item not being received.

Just wondering with an Adverts.ie shop, if a listing is posted with 5 items available and none of them were not sold on the site, would the selling fees stil have to be paid to Adverts.?

No, just the insertion fee for listing the ad. €0.25 is the items are under €25 & €0.75 if the items value is above €25. And if the item sells your charged 3.5% of your profit.

fmoy

Thanks for the detailed reply. Yes I understand what your saying, I'll go with the standard post and hope people are being honest about recieving the products.

As for the items not being sold on the Adverts page, can these just be 'Withdrawn' when sold and not occur a selling fee.?

Thanks again for your time.

Brinimartini

fmoy wrote: »

Hi, I'm thinking of setting up an Ebay page. I'd prefer not to mention what I'll be selling. I've been following sellers in the UK and they are selling up to a hundered items a week. I realize that the UK would be a much bigger market and thus would generate more sales. I was just wondering that if I were to sell more or less the same products in Ireland at the same price, do you think it would be successfull. Is Ebay that popular in Ireland.? People seem to use Donedeal more then most sites! I'd appreciate any replies. Thanks

I think Adverts.ie and Gumtree are more popular being free.

Celeron Media

As for the items not being sold on the Adverts page, can these just be 'Withdrawn' when sold and not occur a selling fee.?

No unfortunately, because with an adverts.ie shop account you can't send PM's until a buyer clicks on the "buy now button" and when that button is clicked on you get charged the 3.5% sales fee.

fmoy

Ok thanks

ctbfashion

i find the adverts shop frustrating because i have had many users clicking the buy now button but then never heard from them again.

in fairness to adverts they have refunded the fee but has to be another way its more the users fault then the site.

fmoy

Ya that must be annoying alright, I have set up an Adverts shop now now so hope all goes well.

allthedoyles

Best of luck with the adverts shop ......

fmoy

Thanks

james thor

hi fellas, I find this a very interesting read, I often thought of upgrading my ebay account to a business seller. I sell hand made jewelery and i get quite a few orders for this time of the year, but after Christmas it tends to slow back down again until say april and may.

As I am currently a private seller I do not charge vat to my customers, If i was to become a business seller does ebay have a system in place where they might automatically deduct vat on my sales?? Or is this my duty to inform revenue of my income. my sales would be maximum 2,000 euro per year, in this I have to pay for supplies, laptop, postage materials, stamps, and fuel.

Is it worth my time changing to a business account at all? I know I have a legal right to do so as it is a business at the end of the day, your thought please

thanks
regards

fmoy

Hi, sorry I can't help you with your question. I decided to set up an Adverts.ie shop instead of Ebay.

fmoy

Hi again, just have another quick question. With an Ebay store, I know that a basic store is €19.99 a month but is the listing fees the same as a private seller.? Does one have to pay to renew the listing every month.? Are there any other charges besides the commission fees.?

allthedoyles

fmoy wrote: »

Hi again, just have another quick question. With an Ebay store, I know that a basic store is €19.99 a month but is the listing fees the same as a private seller.? Does one have to pay to renew the listing every month.? Are there any other charges besides the commission fees.?

You pay fees as normal - see this eBay quote :

All eBay sellers, including those with eBay Shops subscriptions, pay Listing and Final Value Fees. These Listing and Final Value Fees vary based on the listing format (Auction-style or Buy It Now)

To open an eBay Shop, you pay a monthly subscription fee. Each item you list in your eBay Shop incurs an insertion fee and, if it sells, a final value fee. As a Shops subscriber, you will get reduced rates on insertion fees for Buy it now listings. The level of fee discount you receive depends on which Shop level you subscribe to. The fees shown here apply only to Shops opened on eBay.ie

fmoy

Thanks for the reply. Also, I will be selling on Ebay.UK so will I need to alter my PayPal account due to the different currency.?

allthedoyles

Currency rates are automatically calculated .

You can change your Paypal account to sterling or any other currency internally .

fmoy

Thanks for the reply. I have another question about starting an Ebay store. I will have a store with products selling with the 'buy it now' or 'best offer' options.

How does the payment work for these ads. Do I have to repost the ad every month if the items doesn't sell or will one payment do til the item is sold.?

I will have over 600 ads, what would be the best store for me to use ie. Basic, premium etc.?

allthedoyles

I presume you know at this stage that there are 3 ebay shop categories :

• Basic - € 19.99 monthly
• Featured - €59.99 monthly
• Anchor - € 499.99 monthly

If you chose to go with the anchor version , your items will re-list automaticaly every 30 days , until sold , or you decide to end it .

Your decision be obviously be sales-driven by value ( not number of ads )