Planning & Tall Buildings in Dublin

Dr_Bill

Peregrine wrote: »

28 metres?

Oh, noes! Skyscrapers!

On, noes! Urban sprawl, traffic jams, M50, no Metro, No DART underground! Lets keep it up until Naas is assimilated into a suburb of Dublin!

The human fabric must love that drive every morning along the M7 or M11 (or take your pick), god forbid they could have a choice and live in a decent sized high rise apartment block with schools, shops, hospitals and other essential infrastructure.

Maybe we are missing the romantic side of things with the sun going down reflecting off the concrete pad of a house in a ghost estate with the weeds and rubble casting such beautiful long shadows, particularly at this time of year enjoying a nice cold craft beer (only the one mind, need the rest of the money for diesel for the car in the morning).

Ah the Bliss!

Bray Head

Here's the very, very rare example of a new build inside the M50.

These are as rare as hen's teeth and are retailing at 5,500 per sqm. Even very generous estimates of build cost are half this per sqm so there is a substantial value in the parcel of land.




Despite this they are a measly two stories in height. They are not allowed to go up one more it seems - even with a flat roof!!!

Gumbo

Bray Head wrote: »

Here's the very, very rare example of a new build inside the M50.

These are as rare as hen's teeth and are retailing at 5,500 per sqm. Even very generous estimates of build cost are half this per sqm so there is a substantial value in the parcel of land.




Despite this they are a measly two stories in height. They are not allowed to go up one more it seems - even with a flat roof!!!

Very rare new build inside the M50?
We have a couple of sites now with over 50 houses being constructed, Sion Hill in Drumcondra, An Riasc in Finglas, Chanel Manor in Coolock, Hampton Wood in Poppintree. Then many more with smaller amounts such as St. David's Park in Artane, Clonturk Park in Drumcondra off the top off my head. And that's not counting the 120ish houses under construction in Clongriffin, similar amount in Bellmayne both within DCC boundaries, but technically outside the M50

Idbatterim

This thread summarises how much residential construction is going on at present. The amount of commercial is huge ... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1895989

Bray Head

kceire wrote: »

Very rare new build inside the M50?
We have a couple of sites now with over 50 houses being constructed, Sion Hill in Drumcondra, An Riasc in Finglas, Chanel Manor in Coolock, Hampton Wood in Poppintree. Then many more with smaller amounts such as St. David's Park in Artane, Clonturk Park in Drumcondra off the top off my head. And that's not counting the 120ish houses under construction in Clongriffin, similar amount in Bellmayne both within DCC boundaries, but technically outside the M50

There were 241k dwelling units in Dublin City in Census 2011.

There were a mere 667 additions to this last year. Maybe we'll breach 1,000 this year. This is TINY given that many units are also becoming derelict/unusable. The usable stock of dwelling is probably static over the last 5 years.

This is the probably the lowest % growth in the dwelling stock since the 19th century in Dublin. At the same time as employment is increasing approx 2% per annum.

Part of it is that there is less empty land. But more of it is that much land has silly usage restrictions (golf courses, idle grass sports pitches) and of course the restrictions on building UP!

MJohnston

Bray Head wrote: »

There were a mere 667 additions to this last year. Maybe we'll breach 1,000 this year.

Should be approximately 2000 new student beds available this year alone, so I think we'll easily breach 1000.

Gumbo

Bray Head wrote: »

There were 241k dwelling units in Dublin City in Census 2011.

There were a mere 667 additions to this last year. Maybe we'll breach 1,000 this year. This is TINY given that many units are also becoming derelict/unusable. The usable stock of dwelling is probably static over the last 5 years.

This is the probably the lowest % growth in the dwelling stock since the 19th century in Dublin. At the same time as employment is increasing approx 2% per annum.

Part of it is that there is less empty land. But more of it is that much land has silly usage restrictions (golf courses, idle grass sports pitches) and of course the restrictions on building UP!

MJohnston wrote: »

Should be approximately 2000 new student beds available this year alone, so I think we'll easily breach 1000.

Deffo beat that this year. In the list I provided about there's nearly 500 and that's before you count all the other projects going on. Tons of stuff that's not on the radar with the media, a lot of social units being provided by housing agencies in the city center at present, Sean Mac Dermott street, St. Agathas Court to name but 2.

monument

Let's not forget that inside the M50 includes the bulk of the Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council area and small parts of Fingal and South Dublin administrative areas.

Stan27

I was at the aviva the other day and saw a tall building being constructed in the capital dock direction.

Any one know what it is ?

MJohnston

Stan27 wrote: »

I was at the aviva the other day and saw a tall building being constructed in the capital dock direction.

Any one know what it is ?

Exo building

JDigweed

It's a hideous structure and to make it worse it is in the location of the Watchtower building, which was a true landmark high rise that was cancelled due to the economic downturn

MJohnston

Well it was cancelled due to Harry Crosbie 'mismanaging' his money, to be fair.

JDigweed

That is true but not only was it a superior design, the foundations were already in place. If only another firm could have taken over the construction, it would really make an impression on the skyline.
Exo is an L shaped Lego Block that looks completely out of place. Wouldn't be so bad if they left the higher section freestanding without the L bit and added a few more floors to counteract the bulk of the 3 arena beside it.

CatInABox

Nice. Varadkar promises law to block ‘vexatious’ planning challenges. Exactly whats needed in my opinion, some of the judical reviews are taking the piss, and have zero hope of actually succeeding, they're only brought to try and deter developers by using the delay to hit their pockets.

Look at the JR of 2 Grand Parade. JR brought weeks before construction due to start, on the grounds that the enabling works for the Metrolink shouldn't have been included, but instead of just asking for the enabling works to be removed, they ask for the entire permission to be put aside. Oh, and during their application, they argued against making the case "urgent", meaning the developer would have had to have waited even longer before starting construction. As it is, the case will only be heard in November, and that's with the review being urgent.

JohnC.

Will it work or will they go to court to seek a ruling they are not vexatious or something?