F1 2012 Round 10 - Germany

Just watching the drivers' press conference, Schumacher and Vettel are such children. :pac:

Jordan 199

This is going to be an important race for McLaren. 4th in the constructors championship and only picked up 9 points in the last two races.

Hamilton is 4th in the drivers championship with 92 points, 37 points off championship leader Alonso who is on 129 points.

Button is 8th in the drivers championship with 50 points, 79 points off championship leader Alonso who is on 129 points.

Will be interesting to see how the McLaren will perform with the upgrades they are bringing to the race this weekend and see if they help increase the performance of the MP4/27.

b757

Wonder what the odds for Pastor Maldonado to take out another driver this weekend...

Looking forward to the race.. This 2 week gap is really boring without the football on..

b757

b757 wrote: »

Wonder what the odds for Pastor Maldonado to take out another driver this weekend...

Looking forward to the race.. This 2 week gap is really boring without the football on..

Wait til the 5-week gap after Hungary.

Lotus for most points would be where my money would be going this weekend, they're due a representative result. Although if the weather forecast I'm looking at is correct they'll struggle in qualifying, apparently misty/cloudy weather til Sunday morning followed by strong sunshine for the race.

lolie

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Just watching the drivers' press conference, Schumacher and Vettel are such children. :pac:

Just watched it on youtube, seemed a good laugh.
Noticed no one wanted to answer the question about lewis's 100 race.
Looking at jordans post its hard to believe button only scored 5 pts in the last 6 races. Some turnaround from last year where he could do no wrong.

lolie

Highlights of the 1991 race on bbc red button.
Good scrap with senna and prost and some bitchin afterwards.

b757

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait til the 5-week gap after Hungary.

Lotus for most points would be where my money would be going this weekend, they're due a representative result. Although if the weather forecast I'm looking at is correct they'll struggle in qualifying, apparently misty/cloudy weather til Sunday morning followed by strong sunshine for the race.

Ah sh*te.. 5 weeks, why is that? At least there the football starts before that so should be ok..

lolie wrote: »

Just watched it on youtube, seemed a good laugh.
Noticed no one wanted to answer the question about lewis's 100 race.
Looking at jordans post its hard to believe button only scored 5 pts in the last 6 races. Some turnaround from last year where he could do no wrong.

Can you send link? Can't seem to find it..

b757

b757 wrote: »

Ah sh*te.. 5 weeks, why is that? At least there the football starts before that so should be ok..

Mid-season break, very frustrating. Cutting the season by 2 months and not having the break would be my preference.

lolie

b757 wrote: »

Can you send link? Can't seem to find it..

Watched it on the mobile app so cant link it, sorry. Fiveebucks is the user, uploads a good bit of the sky f1 stuff.
Also has older stuff uploaded as Fiveebuckss, two s's

adser53

b757 wrote: »

Can you send link? Can't seem to find it..

I believe this is it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpsI2EVA7k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

dorkacle

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Mid-season break, very frustrating. Cutting the season by 2 months and not having the break would be my preference.

And I don't think they are allowed any testing either during this time? So struggling teams that may benefit competitively somewhat from such a break (i.e. Maclaren as noted above) can't fully. Kinda of pointless really!

But i suppose they have to get their summer holidays too!

Max_Charger

lolie wrote: »

Good scrap with senna and prost and annoying little french man bitchin afterwards.

fyp

Jordan 199

lolie wrote: »

]Just watched it on youtube, seemed a good laugh.
Noticed no one wanted to answer the question about lewis's 100 race.

I would Lewis to win this weekend. I hope he at least wins one race before the break.

Looking at jordans post its hard to believe button only scored 5 pts in the last 6 races. Some turnaround from last year where he could do no wrong.

He scored 5 points in the last two races. 1 point at the British GP & 4 points at the European GP.

Deleted User wrote: »

Mid-season break, very frustrating. Cutting the season by 2 months and not having the break would be my preference.

Or even if there was a 3 week break between the Hungarian and European GP's The last time that was the case was back in 2008. 4 week break came in 2009. 5 week break is too long.

lolie

I dont dislike lewis as much as i used to.
Hope we see some good battles with him and alonso in the second half of this yr.
Also brundle tweeted how lewis said he hit a wet patch ran wide and damaged the car on the way to the grid last week.
Might explain his poor race pace.

Also had button not had the results in melbourne and china people might be talkin about him gettin the boot and not massa.

Jordan 199

lolie wrote: »

Also brundle tweeted how lewis said he hit a wet patch ran wide and damaged the car on the way to the grid last week.
Might explain his poor race pace.

Never knew Hamilton damaged his car on the way to the grid till now :eek:

dorkacle wrote: »

And I don't think they are allowed any testing either during this time? So struggling teams that may benefit competitively somewhat from such a break (i.e. Maclaren as noted above) can't fully. Kinda of pointless really!

But i suppose they have to get their summer holidays too!

Indeed, no testing allowed during the break and there will be no more testing this season.

dorkacle

dorkacle wrote: »

And I don't think they are allowed any testing either during this time? So struggling teams that may benefit competitively somewhat from such a break (i.e. Maclaren as noted above) can't fully. Kinda of pointless really!

But i suppose they have to get their summer holidays too!

Think they have to have the factories closed for a week or two and all. What annoys me more is the 2 3-week breaks earlier in the season for no reason.

lolie wrote: »

Also had button not had the results in melbourne and china people might be talkin about him gettin the boot and not massa.

Amazing the difference a win and a podium can make eh? :pac: Massa hasn't just had poor form this season, he didn't get a podium all last season.

ratedR

lolie wrote: »

Just watched it on youtube, seemed a good laugh.
Noticed no one wanted to answer the question about lewis's 100 race.

It was a stupid question though to be fair, none of the drivers have any interest in talking about the other drivers like that. I've been watching the Drivers Press Conferences since Sky started showing them and you'd really have to wonder where they find the "press" that ask some of the questions when they open it up to the floor. Often idiotic and repetative questions, it's cringworthy most of the time. All of us here would do a better job

I liked this moment from early in the year though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuRQcclYayk

Vettel is good for knocking a bit of crack out of the interviews.

As for this weekend, I can't see past the Red Bulls. Alonso will no doubt be there or there abouts again too. The McLarens really need a result too or they can wave goodbye to any silverware this season.

Max_Charger

FP2 just starting now, pissing rain.

Jordan 199

Lotus testing double DRS in German GP practice.

Lotus is set to give a track debut to its version of double DRS at Hockenheim on Friday, AUTOSPORT can reveal, with the team hoping to gain as much valuable test mileage on it as possible.

The Enstone-based outfit has been working on its concept ever since its protest against the Mercedes design was rejected by the race stewards at the Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai.

A big effort by the team has resulted in it giving the green light for it to be trialled by Kimi Raikkonen in the opening free practice for the German GP.

The team wants to use the test to check on the benefits of the design, but it is unlikely to race it this weekend. However, it is hoping to use it later on in the season when it could be valuable at the higher downforce tracks.

Full article on Autosport here.

Max_Charger

Fp2 red flagged with about 4 mins left, Schumi came out of a corner, caught the paint,wheels spin and went across the grass into the wall. He's fine, car isn't too bad. Fastest times don't mean much, everyone was on inter's as the track was drying out with every lap when it started raining again. Rain forecast again for quali tomorrow with a dry race on Sunday.

Jordan 199

The remodified Hockenheimring is 10 years old too. Do the posters her like the current circuit or the old one?

Old one, it was something different.

donspeekinglesh

I see Setanta have chosen to show all the sessions on Setanta 1, because some overweight men with sticks are walking around a field this weekend. Not impressed.

losthorizon

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

I see Setanta have chosen to show all the sessions on Setanta 1, because some overweight men with sticks are walking around a field this weekend. Not impressed.

WTF? Does that include Practice? I thought Setanta promised they would all be on their main channel.:mad::(

donspeekinglesh

From looking at the UPC EPC practice, qualifying, and the race are on Setanta 1.

Rascasse

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

From looking at the UPC EPC practice, qualifying, and the race are on Setanta 1.

What a useless shower UPC are. So much for their press release "....while ensuring each viewer will be able to watch every possible minute of the Formula 1 Grand Prix 2012 season.”

I just tried to call them there and they are closed now till Monday. If I'd seen this before I'd have called them to ask them to give me Setanta Ireland free till Sunday, especially as I pay for Sky Sports and don't get Sky F1.

Do any of the pubs in Dublin city show F1? Living Room perhaps?

Kxiii

Jordan 191 wrote: »

The remodified Hockenheimring is 10 years old too. Do the posters her like the current circuit or the old one?

I prefer the old one. There was something about the blast through the forest that gave the old track character.

Grim.

Jordan 191 wrote: »

The remodified Hockenheimring is 10 years old too. Do the posters her like the current circuit or the old one?

old one by far!, it was like the german Monza.

Jordan 199

Yeah, the old Hockenheimring was favourite by far. I was doing some reading about it today and once the circuit was modified for 2002 German GP, the old straights were dug up. This is what the Ostkurve from the old circuit looks like now.

Kimi was told the wing is doing what it did in Silverstone, it shouldn't have been available in the wet at all. Hmmmm.......

Anyone else really miss Davidson?

Max_Charger

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Kimi was told the wing is doing what it did in Silverstone, it shouldn't have been available in the wet at all. Hmmmm.......

The rear wing yes,not DRS. They were saying they didn't have great downforce through the slower speed corners. Something to that effect anyway.

decisions

So will there be a comp?

Edit: Found it

lolie

Not lookin to good for schumi.
Strugglin a bit.
Almost forgot, hav to climb the ladder and retune rtl.

freestyla

Max_Charger wrote: »

The rear wing yes,not DRS. They were saying they didn't have great downforce through the slower speed corners. Something to that effect anyway.

P3 Kimi's last lap - all 0.22sec he lost in the last slower sector of the track.

Ghost Train

Button at the bottom of the times in P3, any reason for that? Used tyres & race fuel?

KillerShamrock

Now that setanta are showing a glorified hobby rather than the qualifying is there anywhere I can watch it online legally and free and easy
I have the live times on the f1 website but its not the same without footage.

Unless someone really generous has a spare device free on there sky go and i can watch it that way lol

decisions

Sp 3 gearbox changes

Max_Charger

Ghost Train wrote: »

Button at the bottom of the times in P3, any reason for that? Used tyres & race fuel?

From watching the practices from the last few races i've learnt 1 thing, they mean f**k all Between different fuel loads,different tires and different engine modes beings used, there's rarely a clear pattern being formed.

antodeco

Argh! Anywhere online/in Dublin city I can watch the qualifying and race?

Charlie-Bravo

Rascasse wrote: »

What a useless shower UPC are. So much for their press release "....while ensuring each viewer will be able to watch every possible minute of the Formula 1 Grand Prix 2012 season.”

I just tried to call them there and they are closed now till Monday. If I'd seen this before I'd have called them to ask them to give me Setanta Ireland free till Sunday, especially as I pay for Sky Sports and don't get Sky F1.

Do any of the pubs in Dublin city show F1? Living Room perhaps?

Rang UPC and talked to their staff about this problem and informed them of their 'promise' to show F1 live on Setanta Ireland this year - they told me that it is out of their hands - so I've lodged a complaint and shall receive a call from their complaints dept on Monday or Tuesday! I suggest others do the same to give Setanta and UPC a kick in the back side for being dis-loyal to their F1 fans.

freestyla

antodeco wrote: »

Argh! Anywhere online/in Dublin city I can watch the qualifying and race?

Online coolsports.tv is free but is not in HD

niallith

http://www.eplsite.com/stream1.html
decent quality no lagging

antodeco

Thanks guys. Weekend saved

freestyla

Caterham still need a full second to improve before getting in Q2. How difficult it can be

freestyla

antodeco wrote: »

Thanks guys. Weekend saved

an advantage it's not HD, strem works fine on mobile so can enjoy sun spells outside while watching

Unbelievable how little grip was around there.

freestyla

Inters or wets??

Rascasse

Looks like Vettel will be last of the top drivers over the line. Home pole for him?

Max_Charger

freestyla wrote: »

Inters or wets??

Boat

freestyla

Alonso remains fantastico!

Lotus remains disappointing in qualy