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Mauritius Newspaper Publishes Dead Images

  • 15-07-2012 10:34pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭


    Wow, this is about as low as it gets. Talk about a poor standard of journalism.






    Enda Kenny vows to make formal complaint over pictures that included close-up shots of murdered teacher's dead body


    The Irish government is to make a formal complaint to Mauritius after a newspaper published photographs of the body of the murdered schoolteacher Michaela McAreavey.

    Her family said the publication of the photos, shot at the crime scene in the Legends hotel in Mauritius, was "reprehensible and repugnant".

    McAreavey was the daughter of Mickey Harte, one of the most successful Gaelic football managers in modern times. Two men accused of her murder in January 2011 were cleared on Thursday.

    Northern Ireland's deputy first minister, Martin McGuinness, said it was clear the photographs "emanated from within the Mauritian system".

    About 12 black and white photos of the crime scene appeared in the Mauritius newspaper the Sunday Times. On the front page was an image of McAreavey after her death, with the word "exclusive" written above it.

    Inside the paper were more images of the crime scene, including the couple's honeymoon suite and the bathroom where John McAreavey found his wife's body. There were also close-up shots of McAreavey's injuries.

    The Irish taoiseach, Enda Kenny, said the publication was "an appalling invasion of privacy and a gross affront to human dignity", and said he would be protesting to officials in Mauritius in "the strongest possible terms".




    From Guardian


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Pics or GTFO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    flyswatter wrote: »
    The Irish taoiseach, Enda Kenny, said the publication was "an appalling invasion of privacy and a gross affront to human dignity", and said he would be protesting to officials in Mauritius in "the strongest possible terms".

    That'll go something like...

    Kenny; "I want to express my feelings of deep disgust at what your press have done"

    Mauritius Government Official: "**** off, Enda"

    Kenny; "Oh, OK. Sorry"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    That's just messed up


    What a cheap thing to do. I don't get that mindset


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO
    No thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    read it this morning, are they really out to destroy their own tourist industry?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO

    no need for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO
    What the fcuk would you want to see them for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭mauzo


    Jesus after all the stick they got for handling the case wrong, people giving them stick on facebook, boycotting the entire country over the 2 men getting off...they go and publish the photos for the world to see.

    Why not come over and kick her poor husband/family in the nuts??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Kamjana


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO

    In any other thread that would be a good response,but here now its not.I hope you have a good nights sleep tonight because i dont think her husband or family will, knowing those pics are out in the public domain now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat


    i believe we should have someone nuke mauritius from orbit ....

    ... its the only way to be sure .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    Rasheed wrote: »
    What the fcuk would you want to see them for?

    He was clearly joking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    Going against the grain here, but it's pretty standard in most places to publish pictures of dead people in newspapers... it only really seems to be England, Ireland and the states that do not do it.

    Go to france, Germany or most other places and the free papers on the tube will have these kind of photos.

    they seem to be less hung up about dead bodies than in Ireland.

    Dont get me wrong, I dont like looking at them either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    Kamjana wrote: »
    In any other thread that would be a good response,but here now its not.I hope you have a good nights sleep tonight because i dont think her husband or family will, knowing those pics are out in the public domain now.

    Id say he said it because there already is a large thread in relation to this topic. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Wont be looking if I can avoid it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Anyone for an invasion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Can't say I find it tasteful but different countries have differing levels of detail in their reporting including things the majority in Ireland would find shocking.

    I don't know in this situation if the inclusion of these pictures is a standard thing in their reporting or if they've been included because of the 'celebrity' nature of this case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Kamjana wrote: »
    In any other thread that would be a good response,but here now its not.I hope you have a good nights sleep tonight because i dont think her husband or family will, knowing those pics are out in the public domain now.

    I was waiting for this kind of reply, when there's pics in the paper of dead body's in war zones etc it wouldnt cross our minds to glance at it and move on but because it's an Irish person it's meant to make a difference ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    ^^^^^^^^^^ Appears serious
    He was clearly joking
    Well it was a shiite joke if he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    Just noticed there is a thread on the trial already but maybe this could be kept open mods as it's kind of a moral issue about the press?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Thats nothing odd in countries like that. They show things like that on the evening news in places like Brazil and Mexico. Im not surprised really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    I wonder were people in Iraq complaining when Irish papers published images of dead children and people lying dead on the side of the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Kamjana


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    I was waiting for this kind of reply, when there's pics in the paper of dead body's in war zones etc it wouldnt cross our minds to glance at it and move on but because it's an Irish person it's meant to make a difference ?

    So you only posted it waiting for a reply like mine,nice.Each to there own and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    I wonder were people in Iraq complaining when Irish papers published images of dead children and people lying dead on the side of the road.

    Huh?
    Probably not...I'd say they had other problems at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    He was clearly joking


    Jokes are meant to be funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Whatever about the paper printing the pictures, what cnut in the judicial system leaked them in the first place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Jokes are meant to be funny.

    Ever hear of dark humour?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Border-Rat


    I wonder were people in Iraq complaining when Irish papers published images of dead children and people lying dead on the side of the road.

    What? Most Iraqi's wanted that type of image to spread. That was a war, this was murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    Thats nothing odd in countries like that. They show things like that on the evening news in places like Brazil and Mexico. Im not surprised really.

    Yeah when someone is shot in the middle of the street by the bloody Zetas. You don't publish pictures of a woman who has been strangled in her hotel room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    Oatesy23 wrote: »
    Yeah when someone is shot in the middle of the street by the bloody Zetas. You don't publish pictures of a woman who has been strangled in her hotel room.

    Not to say im not horrified by the publishing of the images, but,

    What is the difference between the two?

    Is one human life valued more than another?

    Regardless of circumstance the picture will still show someone; a person, with a life, a family etc, who has been killed. :(

    What decides whether it is acceptable or not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Not to say im not horrified by the publishing of the images, but,

    What is the difference between the two?

    Is one human life valued more than another?

    Regardless of circumstance the picture will still show someone; a person, with a life, a family etc, who has been killed. :(

    What decides whether it is acceptable or not?

    None of them are acceptable. The difference is, when they show a dead person on TV in Mexico it is after they have been gunned down in the street. The persons body is left on the street covered with a sheet for a long time while the CSI's do their job. The public and news crews will get pictures and videos of this.

    Michaela was killed in her hotel room which is private. These pictures were obtained illegally after being leaked by an official that works for the government and it should never have been printed in the papers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Extinction wrote: »
    Ever hear of dark humour?
    .
    Jokes are meant to be funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Fight_Night


    In the minority here I see but I don't think it's that big of a deal(considering it's Mauritius we're talking about) In Ireland it would be a big no-no but in developing countries the standards of journalism and what is considered acceptable can vary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    In the minority here I see but I don't think it's that big of a deal(considering it's Mauritius we're talking about) In Ireland it would be a big no-no but in developing countries the standards of journalism and what is considered acceptable can vary.

    In Irish newspapers I've seen photos of many murdered people, Garda Jerry McCabe's body comes to mind, I don't see any difference in the standard of journalism here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Toxic7


    I want to see them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Jimmyhologram


    A few years ago an acquaintance of mine died in tragic circumstances in SE Asia.

    When I made the mistake of googling to find coverage, I found extremely disturbing images of his blood-soaked corpse alongside an article in an online newspaper. There were police present in the picture, and they didn't seem to object to the photo being taken. I always hoped his parents never saw that picture.

    I suppose if someone has the misfortune to die or lose a family member while abroad, particularly if the circumstances are grisly, then as far as the reporting is concerned they are pretty much vulnerable to whatever the journalistic norms in that region of the world happen to be.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Bad enough that she was murdered in the first place but after the way the trial was handled and now this... I just feel really sorry for her family. They're going through an awful, awful time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Not to say im not horrified by the publishing of the images, but,

    What is the difference between the two?

    Is one human life valued more than another?

    Regardless of circumstance the picture will still show someone; a person, with a life, a family etc, who has been killed. :(

    What decides whether it is acceptable or not?

    One is an image of a death due to war which has been purposely photographed by a journalist/photographer with the intention of publishing it to document the human impact of war, the other is forensic evidence taken by authorities with no intention of being published publically but which was illegally taken and published on the front page of a newspaper.

    I think it's clear to see which was less acceptable out of the two.

    This is completely separate to my point above (Not aiming it at you Thatnastyboy!), but I really hate to see the callous attitude some people seem to show for what has happened to that poor girl's family. I don't know how I'd cope if someone I loved, that had been murdered, had their forensic photos of their dead body plastered over the front page of a newspaper so I couldn't really give a **** whether it's more acceptable in other countries or not, and I can't imagine that that argument is going to be any solace to her husband or family.
    I'm not a person who calls for boycotts of Mauritius or any crap like that, because I know the average Mauritian had nothing to do with this case and would probably want Justice for her just as much as anyone, but the way that this case has been handled has been absolutely tragic.

    It has **** all to do with whether her dad was a high profile person or not. It has everything to do with respecting basic human dignity in what has been such a terrible period for everyone involved.
    I really hope the journalist or editor that published these photos can sleep at night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Going against the grain here, but it's pretty standard in most places to publish pictures of dead people in newspapers... it only really seems to be England, Ireland and the states that do not do it.

    Go to france, Germany or most other places and the free papers on the tube will have these kind of photos.

    they seem to be less hung up about dead bodies than in Ireland.

    Dont get me wrong, I dont like looking at them either.

    I was just mentioning the exact same point to a mate earlier this evening. When I backpacked Thailand & the Philipiners a few years back I used to read the local papers to pass a bit of time. Two things stood out to me. One was that when someone was arrested and charged with a crime there was often a picture of them in the paper. Time after time it would be the exact same piicture- a suspect standing up in the local police station surrounded for 3 or 4 plain clothes cops and they would all be there in the picture literally pointing their finger at the suspect as the photographer took it. The other thing I noticed was that taking photographs of people lying dead &mangled in car wreaks was fairly common.

    What happened with these pictures was a cultural difference within many countries in the developing world. Enda didn't get this whatsoever However he must ask how did they find their way from police photograhers c
    amera over to an inbox within the Sunday Times.c
    But hey here in lil old Ireland there was an insurance company who used to employ former Gardai to use their contacts within mobile telephone companues which was then used to read your bills and track your movements whePofore necessary. It broke a ton of rules but no-one ever served time for it.

    Police forces around the world often get an opportunity to be corrupt and in this case the paper was most likely paying off the cops for the picks, The whole episode has been a sorry fair the last few days,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 307 ✭✭CodyJarrett


    Damn, thought Madonna got her nipples out again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    What are the bets that some sleazy rag over here will publish the photo's themselves by the end of the week with the mantra ''look, look what they did!''


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Meglamonia


    Expect to get attacked over this,don't necessarily want to see them but since they're out there kinda have to.Where could one find them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO
    OK request for a caveman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    RATM wrote: »
    I was just mentioning the exact same point to a mate earlier this evening. When I backpacked Thailand & the Philipiners a few years back I used to read the local papers to pass a bit of time. Two things stood out to me. One was that when someone was arrested and charged with a crime there was often a picture of them in the paper. Time after time it would be the exact same piicture- a suspect standing up in the local police station surrounded for 3 or 4 plain clothes cops and they would all be there in the picture literally pointing their finger at the suspect as the photographer took it. The other thing I noticed was that taking photographs of people lying dead &mangled in car wreaks was fairly common.

    What happened with these pictures was a cultural difference within many countries in the developing world. Enda didn't get this whatsoever However he must ask how did they find their way from police photograhers c
    amera over to an inbox within the Sunday Times.c
    But hey here in lil old Ireland there was an insurance company who used to employ former Gardai to use their contacts within mobile telephone companues which was then used to read your bills and track your movements whePofore necessary. It broke a ton of rules but no-one ever served time for it.

    Police forces around the world often get an opportunity to be corrupt and in this case the paper was most likely paying off the cops for the picks, The whole episode has been a sorry fair the last few days,
    Why did they mention The Birmingham 6 and The Guilford 4 then?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    I know some papers do it, not here thankfully as who wants to see such an image. Stuff like that shouldnt be something you publish to the public out of respect if anything.
    These kind of pictures get leaked a lot too so I'm not surprised/outraged about this. It happens and this time just closer to home and from a high profile irish family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant


    Insult to injury methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Over a decade ago motorcycle legend Joey Dunlop died in a race and the Star newspaper had a picture of his corpse on page one

    That is still not forgotton, it came up in the motorcycle forum 10 years later and many including me never touched the paper since



    He died doing what he loved
    This act by the Sunday Times is even worse
    thats it settled then, a Boards boycott of the sunday Times...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Andrew Flexing


    Such a nightmare for the family. I cant even begin to imagine how they feel...this latest event is just a dispicable, horrible act in a family's darkest moment.
    For what it's worth my thoughts and prayers are with the families. I hope justice will be done one day for this tragedy.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭lucylu


    looks like there will never get another trial now as getting an impartial jury would be impossible. what an absolute nightmare.
    Suspicious that this was done deliberately to to end this negative media case on Mauritius . a Retrial in a year or six months will hit their figures tourism for longer . while if this is it, no retrial, then end it will ultimately get forgotten about sooner.
    By all accounts there was approx 20 people who saw these photos during the trial-the Jury, judge, prosecution and defence lawyers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,183 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    That'll go something like...

    Kenny; "I want to express my feelings of deep disgust at what your press have done"

    Mauritius Government Official: "**** off, Enda"

    Kenny; "Oh, OK. Sorry"

    And your point is to this sorry. What can Kenny do other than just bring it up. Ban exports. Or is it you jou just dont like Kenny which is fine not a good fan of him myself but that is just seems like a pointless attack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,183 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO


    Given this is AH I hope your joking if not that is just sick


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