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Connacht Final: Sligo Vs Mayo Match Thread

  • 12-07-2012 6:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭


    Its about time there was a match thread for this game on Sunday.

    Most people will be tipping Mayo but I think Sligo have a fighting chance. Sligo won't be lacking confidence after beating Galway in Pearse Stadium a month ago. They should also learn from their experience in 2010 where they were trumped by Roscommon in the Final. Don't forget many of them have won the Nestor cup before in 2007. They'll be no pushover on Sunday.

    In terms of Mayo they had a facile enough win against a very poor Leitrim side (No disrespect to them). Their last game before that was a League Final against Cork, where they were well beaten. Losing Mortimer won't help their cause the next day. Its likely to have a negative effect on morale.

    If Sligo play the way they did against Galway the game will be over by half time. If Sligo are to win they'll need to bring in their second half performance. It was Galways ineptitude that meant they were still in the game at half time. On the other hand they are unlikely to have as poor a half of football again.

    The teams are:

    Sligo
    1. P Greene
    2. N Ewing
    3. J Martyn
    4. R Donovan
    5. C Harrison
    6. M Quinn
    7. P McGovern
    8. S McManus
    9. T Taylor
    10. A Costello
    11. P Hughes
    12. B Egan
    13. M Breheny
    14. A Marren
    15. D Kelly

    Mayo
    1. David Clarke
    2. Kevin Keane
    3. Ger Cafferkey
    4. Keith Higgins
    5. Lee Keegan
    6. Donal Vaughan
    7. Colm Boyle
    8. Barry Moran
    9. Danny Geraghty
    10. Kevin McLoughlin
    11. Cillian O'Connor
    12. Alan Dillon
    13. Enda Varley
    14. Andy Moran
    15. Jason Doherty


    In this game Mayo should be pushing on proving they are All Ireland material but I think Sligo might cause a surprise. Sligo by 2.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Like in last year's final i expect a close game where the underdog will put it up to the favourties for long spells. The Mort may have walked but the Mayo panel is still stronger than Sligo's, experience is also key and Mayo will do just enough to win another Connacht title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,848 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Mayo by 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    I don't think the Mortimer debacle will affect Mayo too much. Sligo will run them very close but Mayo have the fitness and drive to take themselves over the line. It will be interesting to see how the midfield fare this time around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    I don't think the Mortimer debacle will affect Mayo too much. Sligo will run them very close but Mayo have the fitness and drive to take themselves over the line. It will be interesting to see how the midfield fare this time around.

    To be honest I don't think it will either. I think they'll be more affected by a lack of competitive games, weight of expectation and I suspect a certain amount of complacency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    the full forward line of sligo won't get the space they got in the galway game and thats the key to winning and losing this game, when roscommon beat sligo in 2010 they restricted marren, kelly and breheny to just 5 points (2 points from play)

    not convinced with that mayo midfield though, i know moran had a good game against leitrim but the o'shea brothers are better players than moran and geraghty imo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    the full forward line of sligo won't get the space they got in the galway game and thats the key to winning and losing this game, when roscommon beat sligo in 2010 they restricted marren, kelly and breheny to just 5 points (2 points from play)

    not convinced with that mayo midfield though, i know moran had a good game against leitrim but the o'shea brothers are better players than moran and geraghty imo

    One or both of the O'Sheas would definitely be playing if it wasnt for injuries


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Losing Mortimer won't affect morale. What do you expect? Every player to go out to play thinking gee isn't it awful Conor left and not perform to their best somehow as a result. Honestly, this is as good a Mayo team in a while and I expect a handy win. Sligo are a poor team no disrespect. Saw them inPpearse against us and we should've been at least 7 clear at h/t no exaggeration. Marron is good footballer, ok midfield and some good grafters like Harrison but Mayo is a big step up for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Panrich


    I think the fact that Sligo hammered Mayo in the last meeting in 2010 is a negative for them. That was as insipid a performance as has been seen from Mayo for years in Connacht and the players will not need to see the video to remember that night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    To be honest I don't think it will either. I think they'll be more affected by a lack of competitive games, weight of expectation and I suspect a certain amount of complacency.

    Are you from Sligo by any chance RealityCheck ?

    You are putting a lot of faith in in-tangibles there.

    The reality in this case is that Mayo are a better team than Sligo and will win the game.
    What you mention above will not come into play, Mayo are far more focused that that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Are you from Sligo by any chance RealityCheck ?

    You are putting a lot of faith in in-tangibles there.

    The reality in this case is that Mayo are a better team than Sligo and will win the game.
    What you mention above will not come into play, Mayo are far more focused that that.

    I dont think he is actually Fr. but there is certainly no doubting where you are from :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    To be honest I don't think it will either. I think they'll be more affected by a lack of competitive games, weight of expectation and I suspect a certain amount of complacency.

    Are you from Sligo by any chance RealityCheck ?

    You are putting a lot of faith in in-tangibles there.

    The reality in this case is that Mayo are a better team than Sligo and will win the game.
    What you mention above will not come into play, Mayo are far more focused that that.

    No I'm actually from Galway. Some of it is a hunch. I've absolutely nothing to lose if they don't win. All will be revealed Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Would like to see Sligo win this. But I think Mayo will have too much, even with the whole Mortimer thing over their heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo



    The reality in this case is that Mayo are a better team than Sligo and will win the game.

    Would you have Saturday's lottery numbers while you're at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    Losing Mortimer won't affect morale. What do you expect? Every player to go out to play thinking gee isn't it awful Conor left and not perform to their best somehow as a result. Honestly, this is as good a Mayo team in a while and I expect a handy win. Sligo are a poor team no disrespect. Saw them in Pearse against us and we should've been at least 7 clear at h/t no exaggeration. Marron is good footballer, ok midfield and some good grafters like Harrison but Mayo is a big step up for them

    Well its hardly going to have a positive affect in the week leading up to the Final. These things can affect players. They might not realise it at the time but they can. In saying that though knowing Mortimers character they might well be better off with him long term, but him leaving in a strop before the game isn't the best.

    I reckon if Sligo play as poorly as they did in the first half against Galway it will be game over by half time. If the play like they did in the second half they have a chance. I think they'll have their homework done. They'll need to because I'm sure Mayo will have theirs done. Sligo will be bursting a gut to win a Connacht for both themselves and the manager. For Mayo it might not mean as much. Its only a stepping stone where for Sligo its a means to an end. I can't see it being anything other tight. Could go either way.

    My opinions on how Mayo will be might be wide of the mark but generally speaking teams that are at a disadvantage when it comes to tough games, generally take time to get to the pace of game. That could be crucial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,929 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Well its hardly going to have a positive affect in the week leading up to the Final. These things can affect players. They might not realise it at the time but they can. In saying that though knowing Mortimers character they might well be better off with him long term, but him leaving in a strop before the game isn't the best.

    I reckon if Sligo play as poorly as they did in the first half against Galway it will be game over by half time. If the play like they did in the second half they have a chance. I think they'll have their homework done. They'll need to because I'm sure Mayo will have theirs done. Sligo will be bursting a gut to win a Connacht for both themselves and the manager. For Mayo it might not mean as much. Its only a stepping stone where for Sligo its a means to an end. I can't see it being anything other tight. Could go either way.

    My opinions on how Mayo will be might be wide of the mark but generally speaking teams that are at a disadvantage when it comes to tough games, generally take time to get to the pace of game. That could be crucial.


    This. Genuinely believe a loss on Sunday won't be disastrous for Mayo in the long run as it would be for Sligo. Which is why I backed Sligo at 7/2 to win on Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Be a lot easier for Mayo to devise a plan to stop Sligo after seeing them v Galway than for Sligo to devise a plan to stop Mayo after seeing them v Leitrim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    gustavo wrote: »
    Would you have Saturday's lottery numbers while you're at it?

    Hardly a leap of faith to predict that Mayo will beat Sligo
    If I told you that Westmeath were to beat Kerry then I'd expect the above type of response
    keane2097 wrote: »
    Be a lot easier for Mayo to devise a plan to stop Sligo after seeing them v Galway than for Sligo to devise a plan to stop Mayo after seeing them v Leitrim.

    Exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    Hardly a leap of faith to predict that Mayo will beat Sligo
    You presenting it as statement of fact is what I had issue with , but I suppose the more Mayo people with that attitude the better :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    gustavo wrote: »
    You presenting it as statement of fact is what I had issue with , but I suppose the more Mayo people with that attitude the better :)

    If Mayo turn up and play even remotely close to the best of their ability they will beat SLigo FACT. Even if they play useless they'll still very likely scrape a win. It will take something very drastic for them to lose imo

    The only chance Sligo would have v Mayo if it was the first game of the champ. Mayo will have done their homework


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Think Mayo fans are getting a little too pumped up. If both teams play to their very best it's probably about a five point game, if Mayo are less than their best there won't be very much in it at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Mayo at their best are far better than Sligo, the question is though will they perform to their best. We'll see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 dj30


    What's the best way to get tickets to this? Ticketmaster website saying tickets not currently available. They wouldn't be sold out, would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    dj30 wrote: »
    What's the best way to get tickets to this? Ticketmaster website saying tickets not currently available. They wouldn't be sold out, would they?

    Only 20,000 expected you should be able to get tickets outside the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    If Mayo turn up and play even remotely close to the best of their ability they will beat SLigo FACT. Even if they play useless they'll still very likely scrape a win.

    Maybe Mayo will win. But if they don't, I will so enjoy coming back to this post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,381 ✭✭✭✭km79


    dj30 wrote: »
    What's the best way to get tickets to this? Ticketmaster website saying tickets not currently available. They wouldn't be sold out, would they?
    Tickets.ie
    Got 2 earlier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    If Mayo turn up and play even remotely close to the best of their ability they will beat SLigo FACT. Even if they play useless they'll still very likely scrape a win.

    Maybe Mayo will win. But if they don't, I will so enjoy coming back to this post.

    He's not from Mayo though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    He's not from Mayo though!

    Just mild enjoyment then :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    This. Genuinely believe a loss on Sunday won't be disastrous for Mayo in the long run as it would be for Sligo. Which is why I backed Sligo at 7/2 to win on Sunday!

    Mayo have never emerged from the qualifiers though. I wouldn't go as far to say a defeat will be disastrous but in the past it has certainly weakened them mentally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Mayo have never emerged from the qualifiers though. I wouldn't go as far to say a defeat will be disastrous but in the past it has certainly weakened them mentally.

    :confused:

    They beat Cavan by three points in 2005 in Round 4. For Connacht final losers the biggest impediment was usually the almost-always six day turnaround, not their own frailties.

    keane2097 wrote: »
    Be a lot easier for Mayo to devise a plan to stop Sligo after seeing them v Galway than for Sligo to devise a plan to stop Mayo after seeing them v Leitrim.


    It's a pity Mayo played in so many other freely available and nationally televised matches this year, then, that could have swung the entire championship their way. Phew.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    Syferus wrote: »
    :confused:

    They beat Cavan by three points in 2005 in Round 4. For Connacht final losers the biggest impediment was usually the almost-always six day turnaround, not their own frailties.

    :o

    Now that I look it up they qualified in 2002 as well. The Longford game has clouded my memory!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    :o

    Now that I look it up they qualified in 2002 as well. The Longford game has clouded my memory!

    Well they have never got beyond quarter final via the back door where as they have proposerd better as Connaught Champions

    They do not seem to get up for the qualifier like other teams do.

    2001 - Lost in 4th rnd. to Westmeath
    2002 - Quarter final loss to Cork
    2003 - Lost in 4th Round to Fermanagh
    2004 - All Ireland final - Won Connaught
    2005 - Quarter final loss to Kerry
    2006 - All Ireland final - Won Connaught
    2007 - Lost to Derry in 2nd round
    2008 - Lost to Tyrone in 4th round
    2009 - Lost to Meath in Quarter Final - Won Connaught
    2010 - Lost to Longford in 1st round
    2011 - Lost semi Final to Kerry - Won Connaught


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    Well they have never got beyond quarter final via the back door where as they have proposerd better as Connaught Champions

    They do not seem to get up for the qualifier like other teams do.

    2001 - Lost in 4th rnd. to Westmeath
    2002 - Quarter final loss to Cork
    2003 - Lost in 4th Round to Fermanagh
    2004 - All Ireland final - Won Connaught
    2005 - Quarter final loss to Kerry
    2006 - All Ireland final - Won Connaught
    2007 - Lost to Derry in 2nd round
    2008 - Lost to Tyrone in 4th round
    2009 - Lost to Meath in Quarter Final - Won Connaught
    2010 - Lost to Longford in 1st round
    2011 - Lost semi Final to Kerry - Won Connaught


    It seems to be a Connacht thing. Galway have an even worse record since winning the All Ireland through the backdoor in 2011. Its usually a combination of two short a turn around from defeat and teams not being up for the challenge. Sligo might have the best qualifier record of the Connacht teams?

    Interesting to note that the Nestor cup hasn't been retained since Galway in 02-03. Mayo last did a two in a row in 96-97. Its definitely a sign of progress for a team to do it. On the other hand it make you realise Connachts haven't been that easy won. 4 different winners since 2007. Will Sunday signal a change?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    Does anyone know if tickets will be available at the gate tomorrow? Or is there anywhere they can be bought between now and then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,381 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Does anyone know if tickets will be available at the gate tomorrow? Or is there anywhere they can be bought between now and then?
    Limited number at the ground.
    Got mine on tickets.ie last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    Does anyone know if tickets will be available at the gate tomorrow? Or is there anywhere they can be bought between now and then?

    Tickets will be on sale outside dr hyde in the morning. a limited number will be available. so be early


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭ConTheCat


    I know Roscommon won the minor- who were they playing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    She was no Katheryn Jenkins. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    ConTheCat wrote: »
    I know Roscommon won the minor- who were they playing?

    Mayo - who were better in the 2nd half but didn't convert their chances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    jaysus tv3 commentary is painfull


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭68Murph68


    Lots of effort but very little quality.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Sligo inching forward, mayo need a goal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Shocking wide from Moran there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    68Murph68 wrote: »
    Lots of effort but very little quality.

    TV3 coverage ?

    Honestly does the guy who is doing the vision mixing not notice that the long angle shots are out of focus ?

    I am getting dizzy watching this. Its certainly not helping my hangover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Poor game so far mayo all thumbs varley not coping with the pressure too well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭68Murph68


    2 points is chronic from Mayo with all the the possession they've had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Mayo really need to start taking their points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,639 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Mayo would have been well ahead by now had we taken points instead of going for goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    This is very poor for a provincial final. Everything bar the ref is pure shíte.

    TV3 commentatorsare very mono tone aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭corny


    Sligo not really watching the Mayo runners coming through.

    Edit: 'Absorbing first half' according to the TV3 boys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Blackjack wrote: »
    Mayo would have been well ahead by now had we taken points instead of going for goals.
    not really. you've gone for plenty of easypoints and missed them. two fisted wide which is unforgivable


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