Rossies v tyrone match thread

RoscommonTom

Not to long to go now, how do everyone feel about it. Going to be a good close game I feel and can only see a point or two in it at most, the fact its in the hyde could be a big facter. Hope its a fine day and good open game of football like last year, 2 good footballing teams. Looking forward to the craic with the nordies

PaddyCar

has the makings of a great game. rossies will run them very close if not beat them. Is it on the box?

RoscommonTom

I dont know if its on the telly, id say they might show the kildare and cavan match in its place which is a pity for all the nutrels

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Cavan v Kildare is on the Sunday so Ros v Tyrone will be on the box I'd say. 2pm throw in on Saturday

SureYWouldntYa

I just have the feeling Roscommon are going to do it on Saturday, i knew they weren't as bad as they showed against Galway and the second half performance was the real Rossies. I can see a run to the quarter finals in the future....... (waits for laughter)

RoscommonTom

Sorry about that, your right the other game is sunday , so it should definetely be on telly I think we will have too much in the tank for the nordies but just about. Anyone know who we could get in the quarters,

aidan24326

The collapse against Galway was either going to be the making or the breaking of this Roscommon team. They could have fallen apart after that but they deserve great credit for bouncing back so positively against Armagh. This will be a step up for Roscommon but I feel it's a game Tyrone won't relish and they're there for the taking. Ros have every chance imo. A trip to Hyde Park would not have been high on Tyrone's wishlist when the draw was being made.

SureYWouldntYa

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Sorry about that, your right the other game is sunday , so it should definetely be on telly I think we will have too much in the tank for the nordies but just about. Anyone know who we could get in the quarters,

if/when we get to the quarters, it would have to be a provincial winner, so Cork/Dublin/Donegal/Mayo really or whoever does win the finals

padd b1975

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

if/when we get to the quarters, it would have to be a provincial winner, so Cork/Dublin/Donegal/Mayo really or whoever does win the finals

Bit early to be talking about quarter final opponents, still got another round of qualifiers if you win on Saturday.

Syferus

I think more generally, not this year, but in future years our low bar has to become the AI quarter-finals. Tipp set themselves the target of a senior AI by 2020 and some may have laughed but that's exactly the right thing to do, better to aim for the stars than to settle for a quarter-final or maybe a semi 'if we're lucky'. We have a damn sight richer footballing tradition than Tipp and we should be, at least internally, working off the stated aim of building an AI-contending team.

Beating probably the best team of the decade just past would certainly ignite those fires for the years to come. No one passes the torch willingly, though. Maybe Saturday. Maybe.

RoscommonTom

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

if/when we get to the quarters, it would have to be a provincial winner, so Cork/Dublin/Donegal/Mayo really or whoever does win the finals

Interesting, we,d have some form of chance with any of those except cork who would be to big for us phiysicilly I think but one match at a time:);)

RoscommonTom

Syferus wrote: »

I think more generally, not this year, but in future years our low bar has to become the AI quarter-finals. Tipp set themselves the target of a senior AI by 2020 and some may have laughed but that's exactly the right thing to do, better to aim for the stars than to settle for a quarter-final or maybe a semi 'if we're lucky'. We have a damn sight richer footballing tradition than Tipp and we should be, at least internally, working off the stated aim of building an AI-contending team.

Beating probably the best team of the decade just past :)would certainly ignite those fires for the years to come. No one passes the torch willingly, though. Maybe Saturday. Maybe.

Well said, the talent is there we just need the believe and confidence

eastmayo

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Sorry about that, your right the other game is sunday , so it should definetely be on telly I think we will have too much in the tank for the nordies but just about. Anyone know who we could get in the quarters,

dont think its on tv,they showing limerick v clare in hurling.

Syferus

FROM THE TYRONE TIMES

The key to success for Tyrone at Dr.Hyde Park next Saturday is to play with the same swagger they demonstrated so effectively in the Athletic Grounds last month, suggests a man with a respected pedigree as a player, manager and analyst at the top level of the sport, writes Kevin Hughes.


Brian Canavan, who witnessed at first hand how the Connacht team bounced back from their provincial horror show to stun Orchard county supporters with a shock win over an Armagh team which had looked to have done enough in Hyde Park last weekend, give a very firm thumbs-up to the Red Hands.

The former Armagh player, who jointly managed the Orchard county team along with Brian McAlinden and led them to an Ulster title, doesn't believe it would be in Tyrone's interest to adopt the same tactics as against Donegal last time out - and he's convinced that it won't happen because the semi-final performance was a one-off horses-for-courses necessity.

"Tyrone will win in Hyde Park, I don't have much doubt about that. I don't know whether Roscommon were very good or Armagh were pretty poor or it was somewhere in between, but I don't believe it matters much. Tyrone are a much more accomplished team," said the man from Poyntzpass.

"In the first half Armagh were five points clear and apparently coasting. Indeed, they probably should have been nine or ten points up at halftime. On reflection, perhaps a bit of complacency had crept into their play.

"But Roscommon came out with all guns blazing and stuck the ball in the net within twenty seconds of the throw-in and it was then obviously a completely new ball-game. And Armagh couldn't get back into their rhythm and paid a big price.

"Roscommon have one very good forward, Sean Kilbride is his name. He looks an exceptionally good player and is a bit of a playmaker as well as a scoretaker. I believe he could be a threat next Saturday.

"I would say the other main man to worry about up front would be Donie Shine, who can do damage if he's not closely watched.

"Playing at home is unqestionably an advantage for the Connacht team but the big difference between this game and the Armagh match, apart from the fact that Tyrone are stronger and better opposition, is that they are now exposed.

"The element of surprise is not a factor but, as well as that, the home support will now be expecting a win, or at least a huge performance, against Tyrone and that puts additional pressure on the players and management.

"But, if Tyrone go back to the style of football they played in the Athletic Grounds and play as well as they did that day, I can only see one result.

"The one little reservation I have is that they are not as sharp up front as I imagine they'd like to be, with Stephen O'Neill and Owen Mulligan in particular not up to their usual high standards," added Canavan.

The way some Armagh luminaries have reacted to getting beat off the field has been anything but classy, but I'm glad that the lads up north are all the rage about the 60-something Sean Kilbride playing, they'll get a hell of a shock when his son, Senan, pulls on the 13 jersey. :eek:

How anyone watched that game and didn't think to mention Cathal Cregg is totally beyond me. More motivation for Saturday, if it was even needed.

Hammer Archer

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Sorry about that, your right the other game is sunday , so it should definetely be on telly I think we will have too much in the tank for the nordies but just about. Anyone know who we could get in the quarters,

Seriously? You're in round 2 of the qualifiers and you're talking about the quarter finals? You do realise that, if you do win on Saturday, you'll have to win another two games before the quarter finals?

Could be a great game, I know it's not on TV but does anyone know if it'll be streamed? RTE did show web only broadcasts of certain games last year.

blowitupref

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Seriously? You're in round 2 of the qualifiers and you're talking about the quarter finals? You do realise that, if you do win on Saturday, you'll have to win another two games before the quarter finals?

Could be a great game, I know it's not on TV but does anyone know if it'll be streamed? RTE did show web only broadcasts of certain games last year.

The winner of the Connacht final are into quarter finals maybe he's getting the two games mixed up? no round 1 game shown live and by the looks of it no round 2 game, The GAA are putting great effort into these football qualifiers :rolleyes:

RoscommonTom

Ridicirous that their not showing this game, had assumed it was cos of the kildare game. Seems crazy, probably some crappy old film on instead of it

RoscommonTom

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Seriously? You're in round 2 of the qualifiers and you're talking about the quarter finals? You do realise that, if you do win on Saturday, you'll have to win another two games before the quarter finals?

Yea i know that but you cant knock a man for dreaming, a bit of luck and some momentem and who knows

RealityCheck

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Ridicirous that their not showing this game, had assumed it was cos of the kildare game. Seems crazy, probably some crappy old film on instead of it

As far as I know the decrease in live coverage is an attempt by the GAA to increase attendances.

I remember Galway played a qualifier against Wexford two years ago that was televised. God there must have been only 2000 there. People didn't bother there arses going because it was on TV.

Syferus

RealityCheck wrote: »

As far as I know the decrease in live coverage is an attempt by the GAA to increase attendances.

I remember Galway played a qualifier against Wexford two years ago that was televised. God there must have been only 2000 there. People didn't bother there arses going because it was on TV.

Not many more do even when there's no coverage, but choosing to have less tv coverage in this day and age is perhaps the single most myopic decision the GAA have made in many years and the irony is that for the most part the GAA have been commendably forward-thinking.

RealityCheck

Syferus wrote: »

Not many more do even when there's no coverage, but choosing to have less tv coverage in this day and age is perhaps the single most myopic decision the GAA have made in many years and the irony is that for the most part the GAA have been commendably forward-thinking over the last few years.

Its worse in some counties than others. Its been indemic in Galway though. But then again maybe its nothing to do with television and more to do with the fact we're in the doldrums.

I'd love if it was on TV but what can you do.

Lando Griffin

Hopefully we will get to listen to it on the wireless.
Love the Roscommon commentator and the way he continually forgets that there are two teams on the pitch.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Hopefully we will get to listen to it on the wireless.
Love the Roscommon commentator and the way he continually forgets that there are two teams on the pitch.

Willie Hegarty. The mans a legend. The game will be live on Shannonside Radio for anyone interested there is a live feed from the website (shannonside.ie). Worth tuning in for his commentary alone.

huey1975

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Sorry about that, your right the other game is sunday , so it should definetely be on telly I think we will have too much in the tank for the nordies but just about. Anyone know who we could get in the quarters,

Seriously why would the rest of the country have any interest in this game. Roscommon already had one game televised live so I don't think rte have an intention of going down that road again after such an abysmal display against Galway. The quarters!!! FFs if Roscommon were to spring another shock every team left would be hoping to get them or the winners of Leitrim /Wicklow. The quarters! Jesus that's a good one. Funny man

RoscommonTom

Syferus wrote: »

The way some Armagh luminaries have reacted to getting beat off the field has been anything but classy, but I'm glad that the lads up north are all the rage about the 60-something Sean Kilbride playing, they'll get a hell of a shock when his son, Senan, pulls on the 13 jersey. :eek:

How anyone watched that game and didn't think to mention Cathal Cregg is totally beyond me. More motivation for Saturday, if it was even needed.

We will show those clowns

RoscommonTom

huey1975 wrote: »

Seriously why would the rest of the country have any interest in this game. Roscommon already had one game televised live so I don't think rte have an intention of going down that road again after such an abysmal display against Galway. The quarters!!! FFs if Roscommon were to spring another shock every team left would be hoping to get them or the winners of Leitrim /Wicklow. The quarters! Jesus that's a good one. Funny man

I dont know what your on about, from this thread even its obvious that this game has captured the attention of many above any of the games next weekend,

K-9

Think this will be tight with Roscommon having home advantage. Tyrone showed a lot of quality against Armagh and the first half against Donegal, the level of intensity will stand to them. Tyrone to shade it by 4/5 points in the end.

padd b1975

RoscommonTom wrote: »

I dont know what your on about, from this thread even its obvious that this game has captured the attention of many above any of the games next weekend,

what sort of crowd is expected in the real world?

bruschi

RoscommonTom wrote: »

I dont know what your on about, from this thread even its obvious that this game has captured the attention of many above any of the games next weekend,

not sure how you make that out. a thread with a few rossie fans discussing the game doesnt mean neutral supporters have much interest in it. I would have far more interest in the Cavan/Kildare game to name just one than I would over the Ros/Tyrone game.

best of luck when you get to the quarter finals though.:pac:

keane2097

There are no set of fans that deliver quality internet moments as reliably or as regularly as the Rossies.

Syferus

keane2097 wrote: »

There are no set of fans that deliver quality internet moments as reliably or as regularly as the Rossies.

Ye're next.

keane2097

Syferus wrote: »

Ye're next.

We live in fear.

Syferus

keane2097 wrote: »

We live in fear.

With the age of some of your lads I'm surprised they're alive at all, actually.

keane2097

Syferus wrote: »

With the age of some of your lads I'm surprised they're alive at all, actually.

Yeah it's gas to think there could be guys still playing football who were alive last time Roscommon were in a senior All Ireland final.

paddy978

What players do you think are too old Syferus?

ohyesthefinest

Syferus wrote: »

The way some Armagh luminaries have reacted to getting beat off the field has been anything but classy, but I'm glad that the lads up north are all the rage about the 60-something Sean Kilbride playing, they'll get a hell of a shock when his son, Senan, pulls on the 13 jersey. :eek:

How anyone watched that game and didn't think to mention Cathal Cregg is totally beyond me. More motivation for Saturday, if it was even needed.

Syferus on www.gaaboard.com before Armagh v Roscommon-''
Armagh are a D2 team; we're a D3 team
Syferus on www.gaaboard.com after Armagh v Roscommon-''The Armagh result was at least as significant as almost anything that happened under Fergie, beating a D1 team in the championship after suffering a bad defeat.''

Syferus

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Syferus on www.gaaboard.com before Armagh v Roscommon-''
Armagh are a D2 team; we're a D3 team
Syferus on www.gaaboard.com after Armagh v Roscommon-''The Armagh result was at least as significant as almost anything that happened under Fergie, beating a D1 team in the championship after suffering a bad defeat.''

And? Even as a D2 team they rank as our best single victory (removing the Connacht final from the Sligo match in 2010) since Kildare in 2003.

A slip of the finger, one that's very sketchy to begin with given that Armagh played in D1 this year but are about to play in D2, but well done trying to play childish gottcha commentary.

ohyesthefinest

Syferus wrote: »

And? Even as a D2 team they rank as our best single victory (removing the Connacht final from the Sligo match in 2010) since Kildare in 2003.

A slip of the finger, one that's very sketchy to begin with given that Armagh played in D1 this year but are about to play in D2, but well done trying to play childish gottcha commentary.

Ya I would have no problem with you calling them a Division 1 team or a Division 2 team but not interchangable as you please to make Roscommon look better.

ohyesthefinest

Fairplay to Mickey Harte for stating so strong another traumatic week for him.

Syferus

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Ya I would have no problem with you calling them a Division 1 team or a Division 2 team but not interchangable as you please to make Roscommon look better.

You're assuming a level of pre-mediation that rarely, if ever, is put into pre or post-match comments.

blowitupref

huey1975 wrote: »

Seriously why would the rest of the country have any interest in this game. Roscommon already had one game televised live so I don't think rte have an intention of going down that road again after such an abysmal display against Galway. The quarters!!! FFs if Roscommon were to spring another shock every team left would be hoping to get them or the winners of Leitrim /Wicklow. The quarters! Jesus that's a good one. Funny man

When the draw was made the stand out fixture was Cavan v Kildare because of the Seanie Johnson saga. It was fixed for Sunday meaning television coverage was a non-runner for that game.

Saturday fixtures.

Roscommon v Tyrone
Antrim v Galway
Tipperary v Wexford
Leitrim v Wicklow
Longford v Limerick

If a game was to be chosen for live coverage which one would it be? Cork v Clare Munster final had only 9,000 at the game last Sunday i wonder had the rest of the country have any interest in that game?

premierstone

blowitupref wrote: »

When the draw was made the stand out fixture was Cavan v Kildare because of the Seanie Johnson saga. It was fixed for Sunday meaning television coverage was a non-runner for that game.

Saturday fixtures.

Roscommon v Tyrone
Antrim v Galway
Tipperary v Wexford
Leitrim v Wicklow
Longford v Limerick

If a game was to be chosen for live coverage which one would it be? Cork v Clare Munster final had only 9,000 at the game last Sunday i wonder had the rest of the country have any interest in that game?

The decision to televise the Munster Final was made well in advance of the championship even starting when the rights for all provincial games were thrashed out between RTE, TV3 and Croke Park.

And personally out of that list I would choose the Antrim/Galway game as a neutral.

RoscommonTom

premierstone wrote: »

The decision to televise the Munster Final was made well in advance of the championship even starting when the rights for all provincial games were thrashed out between RTE, TV3 and Croke Park.

And personally out of that list I would choose the Antrim/Galway game as a neutral.

Looks like a no brianer to me, the rosies game is by far the most interesting match on the Saturday despite what certain fellas think:pac: I can see galwsy given antrim an awful hiding

premierstone

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Looks like a no brianer to me, the rosies game is by far the most interesting match on the Saturday despite what certain fellas think:pac: I can see galwsy given antrim an awful hiding

Well Id say without using google you probably couldnt name anymore than three Antrim Footballers so I'll take that with a pinch of salt, and I can guarantee you one thing they wont beat them by as much as they beat the mighty Rossies, and we all had to suffer watching than massacare

blowitupref

premierstone wrote: »

The decision to televise the Munster Final was made well in advance of the championship even starting when the rights for all provincial games were thrashed out between RTE, TV3 and Croke Park.

And personally out of that list I would choose the Antrim/Galway game as a neutral.

Yes the provincial finals have been chosen many months ago however my point was the lack of interest in that game itself. I doubt many neutrals would have much interest in Antrim v Galway will many tribesmen and women even travel to the game?

RoscommonTom

premierstone wrote: »

The decision to televise the Munster Final was made well in advance of the championship even starting when the rights for all provincial games were thrashed out between RTE, TV3 and Croke Park.

And personally out of that list I would choose the Antrim/Galway game as a neutral.

premierstone wrote: »

Well Id say without using google you probably couldnt name anymore than three Antrim Footballers so I'll take that with a pinch of salt, and I can guarantee you one thing they wont beat them by as much as they beat the mighty Rossies, and we all had to suffer watching than massacare

Couldnt name one of them never mind three, their hardly the sort of team where anyones heard of their players now are they. Galway v rossies was a freak result as well you know, I think the real rosies was the one that showed up against armagh

Syferus

premierstone wrote: »

Well Id say without using google you probably couldnt name anymore than three Antrim Footballers so I'll take that with a pinch of salt, and I can guarantee you one thing they wont beat them by as much as they beat the mighty Rossies, and we all had to suffer watching than massacare

We played them in the league; we can name plenty of their team. There was only one St. Gall's man playing, the keeper if I recall correctly.

They were quite honestly very poor, with a goal within the first two minutes being the only time it looked like they could win the game. Anything less than a comfortable Galway win would probably be the shock of the weekend.

Roscommon-Tyrone is a far more interesting prospect because if Roscommon win they'll have made a serious statement of intent, if Tyrone lose, the obituaries will be wrote in ernest about the end of a 'great team'. It's a pivotal game for both teams, beyond being a knock-out game.

keane2097

Syferus wrote: »

They were quite honestly very poor, with a goal within the first two minutes being the only time it looked like they could win the game. Anything less than a comfortable Galway win would probably be the shock of the weekend.

Shouldn't be anything like a shock to anyone.

Syferus

keane2097 wrote: »

Shouldn't be anything like a shock to anyone.

There's a large gulf between the two teams, take it from a county that have played both in the last couple of months.

keane2097

Syferus wrote: »

There's a large gulf between the two teams, take it from a county that have played both in the last couple of months.

Here, you're the most consistently awful judge of football teams' quality on the internet, I'll take it from myself but tyvm.

There is a small gulf between the two teams, and the matchups in the game suit Antrim to a large extent with their extremely attack minded and mobile half back line - which will be key to their success as always - up against a fairly pedestrian and ponderous Galway half forward line that neither has the scoring threat to curtail them nor the mobility to defend against them effectively.

They were touch tight against Monaghan who are as close in level to Galway as any other two counties in the country, and despite destroying a pretty terrible Roscommon team, Galway showed against a team whose results have mirrored Antrim's to a ridiculous degree in recent years in Sligo that they are very, very average indeed.

Hope this helps.

Syferus

keane2097 wrote: »

Here, you're the most consistently awful judge of football teams' quality on the internet, I'll take it from myself but tyvm.

There is a small gulf between the two teams, and the matchups in the game suit Antrim to a large extent with their extremely attack minded and mobile half back line - which will be key to their success as always - up against a fairly pedestrian and ponderous Galway half forward line that neither has the scoring threat to curtail them nor the mobility to defend against them effectively.

They were touch tight against Monaghan who are as close in level to Galway as any other two counties in the country, and despite destroying a pretty terrible Roscommon team, Galway showed against a team whose results have mirrored Antrim's to a ridiculous degree in recent years in Sligo that they are very, very average indeed.

Hope this helps.

:pac: