crow tactics

anthonyos

is there anything i can do to improve on my crow shooting i only have one permission and crows is about all thats around its a woodland and i shoot with shotty on the grass tracks in and around it.what are the times months and beat weather conditions and do crow calls work which one is best???

garv123

In the winter before it gets dark in the evenings they will flock in to roost so you get a lot of shots at the edge of the wood or if you are allowed be in the wood 30 minutes before till dark. During summer you can only shoot them for crop protection so I dont know the best way about doing that. Ive only ever shot them during the summer around silage with a rifle.

Using decoys and an electric caller are apparently illegal too so you can only use a mouth caller.

anthonyos

the woods im in is more of a plantation trees are 10 to 15 foot tall i can see the roost but its at a few houses no permission there ill pick an electric caller up soon and a few decoys..

anthonyos

ah not bad most iv shot was 7 on the last bank holiday monday with my mate shotgun .just got my own 3 weeks ago shot 3 my first evening out and a few here and there since i was using 7.5 28g but picked up no6s 32g today got 250 for 69euro hoping to get more range with them

cubbyleader

I got mine in March and I go out with my brother most weekends and share the shotgun the most we shot was 32 crows and 6 pigeons

cubbyleader

Ha yea and your thinking to yourself I could have hit that

rowa

you could try a large owl decoy, they'll either ignore it or go absolutely mad at it, if you can put a dead crow at its feet that should work.

garv123

cubbyleader wrote: »

Using decoys and an electric caller are apparently illegal too so you can only use a mouth caller.

I thought it was just illegal to use recordings or crows not electric callers that's just what I heard but I'm probably wrong[/QUOTE]

Its in an amendment of the wildlife act apparently that the use of an electric caller is illegal to use on any animal or bird. 1976 amendment I think.
This little netbook would blow up if I tried to open any of them now to show the quote:D

anthonyos

i thought they were afraid of owls..i was shooting in kilkenny the weekend man the crow would near fly over to ye they were very friendly thats why i reckon they stay clear of my usual shooting grounds they are wary now

rowa

anthonyos wrote: »

i thought they were afraid of owls..i was shooting in kilkenny the weekend man the crow would near fly over to ye they were very friendly thats why i reckon they stay clear of my usual shooting grounds they are wary now

where there is a good few of them in a wood etc , they try to mob the decoy, ask any falconer about mobbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7-JswKXuI

4200fps

anthonyos wrote: »

is there anything i can do to improve on my crow shooting i only have one permission and crows is about all thats around its a woodland and i shoot with shotty on the grass tracks in and around it.what are the times months and beat weather conditions and do crow calls work which one is best???

Buy a Weems replica. That will certainly blacken the sky with crows,mags and grey backs. What part of the country are you from? Don't leave any crows lying around or it will spook them off. You can use decoy cradles which will make things even more successful for you. I can get grey backs,mags and crows in on top of me in under a min with the Weems replica. Theres 4 of the lads on this who seen mine in action. It never let me down. Its also a great fox lure which is mainly what its designed for. The owl decoy which one of the guys mentioned with a dead crow tied to it and raise it as high up in the air into a tree is the proper way to work it. A telescopic pole rod would be the best way to elevate it and you can put it in the boot of your car when your finished

anthonyos

were can i a Weems replica i live in dublin

4200fps

anthonyos wrote: »

were can i a Weems replica i live in dublin

There it is. Won't work right if its not used correctly but its easy used. Its very loud. The birds will hear it up to 600yards away. The grey backs and mags especially go mental when they hear it. http://danthompsongamecalls.com/product/predator-calls/weems-replica/.
Here's a video of one in use to give you an idea how to blow it.
http://youtu.be/0MLhA1_aPSs you will need to log onto you tube to watch it tho. He's calling a fox with it but you can hear the mags in video going mad in the distance. Mags will go to the very edge of their territory/perimeter to get close to that call but if you in their area they will come right at you in seconds. I was wondering where you were from as if you were near me i'd take you out for a day and show you good results. I mail you another top notch caller but your pocket be sore as its expensive. Here it is in action. Very hard got http://youtu.be/k9kaoIqZRCk

terminator2

anthonyos wrote: »

the woods im in is more of a plantation trees are 10 to 15 foot tall i can see the roost but its at a few houses no permission there ill pick an electric caller up soon and a few decoys..

you cant shoot crows over decoys now ....i think....

4200fps

I was out looking for a fox yesterday and had no joy so i was thinking about packing up when i said i'll make a video to prove how effective the caller is. I'm just waiting to get my friend to upload it onto youtube. Put it this way it was quiet before i started and i blackened the sky with crows in around a minute and they hovered above me. I wasn't hid or anything or wearing any sort of camo but if i was hidden they would land beside me or practicly on me. Mags were going crazy in distance but i was out of their territory. As soon as vidoe is uploaded i will post it on this

hedzball

Have this one myself.. Find it a mighty job as long as you stay hidden!

Where I knock them there is an 'ol castle and have knocked 40-50 in an average day.. They tend to swoop down on the farmers young kids eating the lunch in the garden.. Under derogation I can knock as many as I please

'hdz

dodderangler

rowa wrote: »

anthonyos wrote: »

i thought they were afraid of owls..i was shooting in kilkenny the weekend man the crow would near fly over to ye they were very friendly thats why i reckon they stay clear of my usual shooting grounds they are wary now

where there is a good few of them in a wood etc , they try to mob the decoy, ask any falconer about mobbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7-JswKXuI

I can say your dead right
When I'm out with the hawk the crows do try mob her when we're out huntin if she lands in a tree their at her but when they can't see her and their on the ground shell try go for the kill on a crow
I had a magpie swoop in on her while she was flying and she's 3 times bigger than the maggie
Fake owls do work well but using A fake hawk will work better and puttin a crow on the feet will be better
This is a good video on decoys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_FR62wzVVo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

anthonyos

4200fps wrote: »

I was out looking for a fox yesterday and had no joy so i was thinking about packing up when i said i'll make a video to prove how effective the caller is. I'm just waiting to get my friend to upload it onto youtube. Put it this way it was quiet before i started and i blackened the sky with crows in around a minute and they hovered above me. I wasn't hid or anything or wearing any sort of camo but if i was hidden they would land beside me or practicly on me. Mags were going crazy in distance but i was out of their territory. As soon as vidoe is uploaded i will post it on this

`good man let us know when is up and il have a look.was out on saturday evening there was a lot o crows about i could hear them roosting in non permission land ..what sort of money you looking at for the caller

Bob Aronsohn

If any of you are interested I have been selling an instructional cd that teaches you how to blow a hand held crow call. I also go into what the different calls mean as I blow each one. It takes time, you are not going to get good by just practicing on an odd afternoon, but if you stick with it you will get so much pleasure from calling "your own birds" into your setup.

I also have two DVD'S on the market on crow hunting. "The Art of Crow Hunting" has a 551 bird crow hunt. This DVD has a lot to offer "if you pay attention to the different setups" on decoy placement and blind (hide location) location.

The second DVD is called "Crow Shooting" and has several hunts where anywhere from 300 to 447 get shot in mid air.

If you are interested you can go to the educational section over at Crow Busters and find these products. They also sell decoys and all sorts of hand held crow calls. Just go to www.crowbusters.com they will ship anywhere in the world.

Fox Pro Game calls in the USA is another very good company to do business with.

Sincerely,

Bob Aronsohn

Cork24

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learn how to Aim and shot faster.

anthonyos

ye had though about doing some how do i get shooting clay without paying membership fees

terminator2

anthonyos wrote: »

ye had though about doing some how do i get shooting clay without paying membership fees

what part of the country r u in

anthonyos

terminator2 wrote: »

what part of the country r u in

im from dublin

dodderangler

Another way to get them around is a ferret I notice when I have the ferret and crows see it in the field theyre all over the place Above me head

anthonyos

you not shoot the them

dodderangler

anthonyos wrote: »

you not shoot the them

Huh??

anthonyos

do you you not shoot the crows when you seen them

dodderangler

Not when I'm ferretin I Only bring the two ferrets and the nets or the hawk

Bob Aronsohn

I just got done watching the film clip "European Crow Calling Instructions" that Hedzball posted. The guy had a nice presentation, but the sound he was making for European crows would call common crows here in the states as well.

The sound does not come from your gut to get that good crow calling sound, it comes from your diaphragm. You have to push the air up from your diaphragm by squeezing your stomach muscles.

I wish he would have blown some call sequences instead of just blowing one note. He has a good sound from the little I heard in the clip.

In one of my dvd's on crow hunting you almost see a crow fly inside the blind with me calling him.

4200fps

anthonyos wrote: »

is there anything i can do to improve on my crow shooting i only have one permission and crows is about all thats around its a woodland and i shoot with shotty on the grass tracks in and around it.what are the times months and beat weather conditions and do crow calls work which one is best???

I'll send you a pm with my facebook user name and you can watch the video on my facebook page if you wish. Cant get it up on youtube for some reason. The sky went black with crows as i promised

4200fps

And atleast with the weems replica it takes very little breath to operate compared to other ones that would wear you out blowing your guts up and with some other brands of callers if its reed gets wet by saliva its out of action which never happens with a Weems caller

hedzball

load the video into a photobucket account or flickr then post it?

I was out myself with my one earlier just for the craic called in a decent flock burning up old carthridges



'hdz

anthonyos

hedzball wrote: »

load the video into a photobucket account or flickr then post it?

I was out myself with my one earlier just for the craic called in a decent flock burning up old carthridges



'hdz

what caller have you got... was there crow around already

hedzball

anthonyos wrote: »

what caller have you got... was there crow around already

The link of the vido I posted earlier..

I was hiding by a few bales earlier.. No massive amount of crows but enough to reload..





'hdz

Invincible

4200fps wrote: »

I was out looking for a fox yesterday and had no joy so i was thinking about packing up when i said i'll make a video to prove how effective the caller is. I'm just waiting to get my friend to upload it onto youtube. Put it this way it was quiet before i started and i blackened the sky with JACKDAWS in around a minute and they hovered above me. I wasn't hid or anything or wearing any sort of camo but if i was hidden they would land beside me or practicly on me. Mags were going crazy in distance but i was out of their territory. As soon as vidoe is uploaded i will post it on this

Fixed that for ya

anthonyos

where can i find one of these videos

4200fps

Invincible wrote: »

Fixed that for ya

What you mean i don't get ya

Dachipster

I have the Sam Neyt caller that Hedz has and I know they work, but I may as well be sticking my thumb in my mouth and blowing on that! Hedzball, did it take alot of practice to get the caller working for you? Any tips?

4200fps - could you send me that link to you calling them in with the wellens please.

Chip.

hedzball

Dachipster wrote: »

I have the Sam Neyt caller that Hedz has and I know they work, but I may as well be sticking my thumb in my mouth and blowing on that! Hedzball, did it take alot of practice to get the caller working for you? Any tips?

4200fps - could you send me that link to you calling them in with the wellens please.

Chip.

An owl about the vicinity I find helps alot..

stay hidden.. number one thing..

I've turned and called them out to 4-500 yards with it..

Its kind of a gargle.. dont blow.. onces you get your throat rattling its a mighty yoke :cool:


'hdz

anthonyos

does the sports den in navan do any good crow calls?does anybody know

4200fps

Dachipster wrote: »

I have the Sam Neyt caller that Hedz has and I know they work, but I may as well be sticking my thumb in my mouth and blowing on that! Hedzball, did it take alot of practice to get the caller working for you? Any tips?

4200fps - could you send me that link to you calling them in with the wellens please.

Chip.

Your going to have to add me as na friend on facebook to see the video. Its on my wall. Also you will only buy junk when it comes to callers in Ireland. I also have another crow caller which doesn't have you catching your breath while calling. Its about 35pounds. Its called a Rottumtaler Krahenlocker (Enterlocker). Theres none of this crack squeezing your stomach muscles to create the call. Its made out of deer ankler and its reed does all the work. Takes a few mins to master it correctly. Weems is still better I find as Mags,crows and grey backs go mental and fly in to it in seconds If they don't see you ofcoarse same with any caller. If using a decoy owl its best to pluck feathers of other birds and glue them to the decoy. Seen Kristoffer Clausen world famous hunter do it and it looked like a real owl stuffed. No glare of the decoy and looks very real

Invincible

4200fps wrote: »

Invincible wrote: »

Fixed that for ya

What you mean i don't get ya

They were jackdaws that were coming to the call in that video,you said "blackened the sky with crows"

4200fps

Invincible wrote: »

They were jackdaws that were coming to the call in that video,you said "blackened the sky with crows"

No you fool they were crows. They were crows and further more your the one who relies on me to call in the grey crows and mags for you every day we are out

4200fps

This is the Rottumtaler Krahenlocker (Enterlocker) in action. I didn't get around to testing it out. Its simple to work,just a gentle blow that's all and its magic begins
http://youtu.be/k9kaoIqZRCk. I'm nearly sure it cost me £35 but a proper distress caller I recon is even better and further range. You can hear the grey backs come as far as 400yards away as soon as you blow with a weems.

4200fps

Heres a video of the predator distress caller. If you can make a good animal in distress call, grey crows will think they are in for their easy meal. See how he done his decoy owl. There any amount of callers out there but Ive yet to find one decent caller of any type in Ireland only junk to the highest standard. You pay good money for a good lure for foxing or crow/mag shooting.
http://youtu.be/Njymjj-xSQw

Invincible

4200fps wrote: »

No you fool they were crows. They were crows and further more your the one who relies on me to call in the grey crows and mags for you every day we are out

We called them with the u-caller several times!
Just goes to show that you don't know your ar$e from your elbow if you don't know a flock of Jackdaws from crows! lol

Jackdaw: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDgPKyPGQEONqovRrl6MQtJKN8ehP84ggBJZ_dSksw3NjoVWvL

Crow: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv_0SuDmXS_Qh5_2MS-N8pzfLeE2jij-_0-xDMdtmelUSiW4vyeA

dodderangler

What does it fcukin matter what they are
Aim and shoot!!!!
Jackdaw or crow ,their both as bad as each other

4200fps

Dachipster is happy with the weems. He seen it in action. Glad he enjoyed

Weylin

dodderangler wrote: »

What does it fcukin matter what they are
Aim and shoot!!!!
Jackdaw or crow ,their both as bad as each other

u can add magpie to that list too..........

4200fps

and the main target the grey back

dodderangler

Weylin wrote: »

dodderangler wrote: »

What does it fcukin matter what they are
Aim and shoot!!!!
Jackdaw or crow ,their both as bad as each other

u can add magpie to that list too..........

Can't believe I forget them hate them more than the rest
Them grey basta**s aswell hoping to get a few if them with the Harris hawk this year be good scrap