shocking...

carbon nanotube

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0707/irish-couple-england-road-crash.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-18752313

the driver on the wrong side of the road..whats there to say............

biko

It doesn't mention anyone being on the wrong side of the road?
Edit - the video mentions it.

166man

carbon nanotube wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0707/irish-couple-england-road-crash.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-18752313

the driver on the wrong side of the road..whats there to say............

RIP to the young child and the Polish man.

TheChizler

The Huffington Post mentions something about the Vectra swerving across the road, but it's not like he was driving on the wrong side.

Edit: Ah, the video.

Monty Burnz

TheChizler wrote: »

The Huffington Post mentions something about the Vectra swerving across the road, but it's not like he was driving on the wrong side.

Edit: Ah, the video.

Reports suggest he deliberately crashed into the Irish car, and he was arrested before he died.

Big Nasty

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Reports suggest he deliberately crashed into the Irish car, and he was arrested before he died.

Dafuq!?! :eek::eek::eek:

will.i.am

The Irish mother lost her unborn child as a result of the crash.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-18752313

carbon nanotube

this is bad.

dont think i will read any more of it.

Chris_Heilong

yeah its horrible, I had to make up the map today for the news, there was also a bad crash in Russia. Every weekend I have to do a map showing road deaths. Seems every Friday and Saturday night someone is killed in Ireland, mostly country roads.

carbon nanotube

that doesn't excuse anyone from driving on the wrong side of the road at speed and driving into someone.

they should stick to driving in their own country like that where its probably commonplace.

CiniO

carbon nanotube wrote: »

that doesn't excuse anyone from driving on the wrong side of the road at speed and driving into someone.

they should stick to driving in their own country like that where its probably commonplace.

But what actually happened?
I went through all the links in this thread, and couldn't find any info how did the accident actually happened.

christmas2012

She lost an unborn child ,and a two year old toddler,the guy was speeding it came out in a lot of reports,and there were english traffic police on the road who were there to witness events,they said he lost control of the car and in turn veered onto the other side of the road..

carbon nanotube

CiniO wrote: »

But what actually happened?
I went through all the links in this thread, and couldn't find any info how did the accident actually happened.

a polish guy in a vauhxhall drove head on into an Irish couple in devon, killed two year old child, and the woman's new born is also dead.

A head on smash at 70mph + is unthinkable.

The couple were in the wrong place at the wrong time sadly.

Anan1

carbon nanotube wrote: »

they should stick to driving in their own country like that where its probably commonplace.

I had a feeling this might be where you were going with this.

fryup

carbon nanotube wrote: »

a polish guy in a vauhxhall drove head on into an Irish couple in devon, killed two year old child, and the woman's new born is also dead.

A head on smash at 70mph + is unthinkable.

suicide?

unkel

Police were today investigating claims the Polish driver ploughed into the family’s car head-on to take his own life :mad:

-Corkie-

They were neighbours of mine...:(

fryup

my god, if its true....then what a selfish think to do

if you're going to do it then drive into a wall, drive off a cliff but don't take some poor innocents with you, makes me sick

-Corkie-

fryup wrote: »

my god, if its true....then what a selfish think to do

if you're going to do it then drive into a wall, drive off a cliff but don't take some poor innocents with you, makes me sick

I know they are all at it now especially jumping out in front of lorries or trains. It makes me sick.

carbon nanotube

unkel wrote: »

Police were today investigating claims the Polish driver ploughed into the family’s car head-on to take his own life :mad:

what a prick, hope he rots in hell.

Jimbob 83

If he was driving an Accord and not from an ethnic minority it would probably be acceptable though

Jame Gumb

166man wrote: »

RIP to the young child and the Polish man.

Cannot agree with you regarding the latter...may he rot in hell

MuppetCheck

carbon nanotube wrote: »

what a prick, hope he rots in hell.

Playing devils advocate here but God knows what goes on in someones head if what's read is to believe. Awful consequences but ffs, you seems to be sensationalising motor related fatalities. If you want to troll, which seems to be your thing, stop making a mockery of a families troubles yet again. You did the same with the lambo crash during the week.

antodeco

Horrible to think about. RIP to the 2 year old and unborn child. My thoughts are with the parents who, if they survive, will have a very heart breaking time.

MuppetCheck

antodeco wrote: »

Horrible to think about. RIP to the 2 year old and unborn child. My thoughts are with the parents who, if they survive, will have a very heart breaking time.

That's a couples worst nightmare come true.

Stheno

-Corkie- wrote: »

They were neighbours of mine...:(

That is horrific, god love those poor parents injured as they are, waking up to the news of their loss.

And god love anyone contemplating suicide, it must be a desperate place to be in to be honest.

Duiske

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Playing devils advocate here but God knows what goes on in someones head if what's read is to believe. Awful consequences but ffs, you seems to be sensationalising motor related fatalities. If you want to troll, which seems to be your thing, stop making a mockery of a families troubles yet again. You did the same with the lambo crash during the week.

In fairness, the guy was speeding and (possibly deliberately) drove head on into another car, destroying that young family's lives. He was indeed a prick.

On a side note, the british police complaints commission were brought into this last night. Were the police actually chasing this guy, or was it just because there was a police witness ?

CiniO

carbon nanotube wrote: »

what a prick, hope he rots in hell.

But how do you know what what was the reason that he swerved into path of other car? (because if I understand correctly that's what happened).
Maybe he was tired and felt asleep. Maybe he lost his consciousness. Maybe he was sick. Maybe his car developed mechanical failure (steering issue).
Maybe he was under influence of alcohol or drugs. Or eventually maybe really he was trying to commit suicide.
We don't know which one is true, so calling someone a prick and hoping for him to rot in hell is bit brave opinion here.

PS. I can't see any relation between what actually happened, and that driver was Polish, as most media put accent on it.
In oppose to what some people might think here, swerving straight onto oncoming car for no reason, is not a common thing on Polish roads.

MuppetCheck

Duiske wrote: »

In fairness, the guy was speeding and (possibly deliberately) drove head on into another car, destroying that young family's lives. He was indeed a prick.

On a side note, the british police complaints commission were brought into this last night. Were the police actually chasing this guy, or was it just because there was a police witness ?

I'm of the opinion that a mental illness is akin to someone having say a heart attack behind the wheel. Could go on for hours arguing that one I suppose!

All I heard in the news was that it was witnessed by the police. Seems standard enough, same would happen here I believe.

deaglan169

have to agree with above poster Cinio, anything could have happened also the police being there to witness the accident may be a complete coincidence or perhaps he clocked them in the rear view mirror and panicked, no one will know but it said their was heavy rain at the time, that video posted last week showing a red golf veer off after hitting standing water could also be a possibility, at least the onboard camera in the police car may help, the fact he is polish again should not be brought into it, he is in his mid 20s good chance this guy may have come to england as a young lad and learned to drive over there making him no different to a british national. RIP to those involved very sad

carbon nanotube

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

If he was driving an Accord and not from an ethnic minority it would probably be acceptable though

what are you on about......

what idiots here.

carbon nanotube

Duiske wrote: »

In fairness, the guy was speeding and (possibly deliberately) drove head on into another car, destroying that young family's lives. He was indeed a prick.

On a side note, the british police complaints commission were brought into this last night. Were the police actually chasing this guy, or was it just because there was a police witness ?

yes, why was a police car 'on the scene of that right away'

its strange for them to be right on the nose of a head on smash...

unless they were like chasing the polish guy, he said f**k it lets call it a day and he crashed.

carbon nanotube

CiniO wrote: »

But how do you know what what was the reason that he swerved into path of other car? (because if I understand correctly that's what happened).
Maybe he was tired and felt asleep. Maybe he lost his consciousness. Maybe he was sick. Maybe his car developed mechanical failure (steering issue).
Maybe he was under influence of alcohol or drugs. Or eventually maybe really he was trying to commit suicide.
We don't know which one is true, so calling someone a prick and hoping for him to rot in hell is bit brave opinion here.

PS. I can't see any relation between what actually happened, and that driver was Polish, as most media put accent on it.
In oppose to what some people might think here, swerving straight onto oncoming car for no reason, is not a common thing on Polish roads.

he wasted a couple, in the prime of their life by driving into them on the wrong side of the road and at speed.

where he comes from doesn't matter but anyone who says he was under drugs or had a defective car is bs.

Im sure time will tell on this......and yes, driving in poland and that side of the world is a joke.

Jimbob 83

carbon nanotube wrote: »

what are you on about......

what idiots here.

You dare disagree with me, you must be stupid or foreign and like driving into things because ya know thats what they do, i read it on a crisp packet once.

Plus you don't drive a Skoda either and it takes 15,000 dentists to change my brake discs so clearly i am right and you drive an inferior car.

Etc etc :pac:

carbon nanotube

deaglan169 wrote: »

have to agree with above poster Cinio, anything could have happened also the police being there to witness the accident may be a complete coincidence or perhaps he clocked them in the rear view mirror and panicked, no one will know but it said their was heavy rain at the time, that video posted last week showing a red golf veer off after hitting standing water could also be a possibility, at least the onboard camera in the police car may help, the fact he is polish again should not be brought into it, he is in his mid 20s good chance this guy may have come to england as a young lad and learned to drive over there making him no different to a british national. RIP to those involved very sad

course its sad.. but the weather should have no real bearing, there may have been surface water but if thats the case there would be several thousand head on smashes in the uk in the last 24 hours given the weather.

Its raining non stop where I am for 3 days now and I don't see any crashes on the motorway which I can see from my window.

carbon nanotube

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

You dare disagree with me, you must be stupid or foreign and like driving into things because ya know thats what they do, i read it on a crisp packet once.

Plus you don't drive a Skoda either and it takes 15,000 dentists to change my brake discs so clearly i am right and you drive an inferior car.

Etc etc :pac:

can only assume you are on something now as I don't know what your warbling about.

unkel

carbon nanotube wrote: »

yes, why was a police car 'on the scene of that right away'

its strange for them to be right on the nose of a head on smash...

unless they were like chasing the polish guy, he said f**k it lets call it a day and he crashed.

Speculating wildly? From what I read a police officer was an accidental witness of what happened, that is all. They were not chasing him

CiniO wrote: »

But how do you know what what was the reason that he swerved into path of other car? (because if I understand correctly that's what happened).
Maybe he was tired and felt asleep. Maybe he lost his consciousness. Maybe he was sick. Maybe his car developed mechanical failure (steering issue).
Maybe he was under influence of alcohol or drugs. Or eventually maybe really he was trying to commit suicide.

Indeed we do not know. Maybe we will never know. In these terrible times, more and more people find no other way than to commit suicide. Hopefully that wasn't the case here.

SniperSight

Don't agree with the "they were in the wrong place at the wrong time" remarks.
They were on holidays and entitled to be where they were. Where should they have been like!?
The only person in the wrong place was the driver on the wrong side of the road.
What a senseless tragedy, RIP.

Jimbob 83

carbon nanotube wrote: »

can only assume you are on something now as I don't know what your warbling about.

Isn't it really annoying when people make stupid posts/threads :pac:

carbon nanotube

I would wait to hear the full report, i'm still a bit suspicious.

The chances of the Cops being bang on the scene of an accident are pretty rare occurrence.

The cops could have been hush as to the seriousness of the incident.

On the other hand they should have full footage of that on the camera so we should know sooner rather than later.

h3000

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

If he was driving an Accord and not from an ethnic minority it would probably be acceptable though

Sorry Jimbob but that is a ridiculous comment. If what is being said is true, that the man deliberately drove into the other vehicle how could it ever be acceptable? Apart from one twit here no one was being prejudice. It is a fact that the driver involved was polish and the vehicle he was driving was a Vectra.

carbon nanotube

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

Isn't it really annoying when people make stupid posts/threads :pac:

yes, its usually easy to spot the ones high as a kite on Saturday night.

Jimbob 83

h3000 wrote: »

Sorry Jimbob but that is a ridiculous comment. If what is being said is true, that the man deliberately drove into the other vehicle how could it ever be acceptable? Apart from one twit here no one was being prejudice. It is a fact that the driver involved was polish and the vehicle he was driving was a Vectra.

You of context you are taking me, strong in the force you are however

Jimbob 83

carbon nanotube wrote: »

yes, its usually easy to spot the ones high as a kite on Saturday night.

That or the xenophobic conspiracy theorists who feed on the misery of others

Tis shockin sad

carbon nanotube

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

You of context you are taking me, strong in the force you are however

seriously, what is it you are on?

carbon nanotube

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

That or the xenophobic conspiracy theorists who feed on the misery of others

Tis shockin sad

how was your LC, did you get enough points for college...

CiniO

carbon nanotube wrote: »

anyone who says he was under drugs or had a defective car is bs.

Because????
Explain please why is it bs...

and yes, driving in poland and that side of the world is a joke.

Also I would love any comment on this.

UhOh

MuppetCheck wrote: »

I'm of the opinion that a mental illness is akin to someone having say a heart attack behind the wheel.

that's complete bs......suicide is a selfish act whatever but to take anyone elses life along with your own just makes me sick to the pit of my stomach....but that's a different topic....whatever the cause this accident is truely tragic. R.I.P. to that little boy & his unborn sibling. My heart aches for his poor mam, dad & family

Jimbob 83

I personally feel sorry for everyone involved as the whole situation is tragic, but i don't see the point of the thread as nothing has been proven yet and a head on collision can be caused by any number of things all which could theoretically have a strong arguement.

Best to let the authorities find out what happenned before jumping to conclusions when people are recently deceased/fighting for their lives. Honestly it's the sort of thread i would not even expect to find in AO.

TestTransmission

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

That or the xenophobic conspiracy theorists who feed on the misery of others

Tis shockin sad

carbon nanotube wrote: »

seriously, what is it you are on?

Grow up, the both of ye

tossy

carbon nanotube wrote: »

they should stick to driving in their own country like that where its probably commonplace.

What A dumb comment,i love how people use a tragedy as an excuse to insert a little bit of bar stool racism,have you no shame?