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Physicists create highest man-made temperature ever - June 28th 2012

  • 06-07-2012 10:44am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭


    http://www.slashgear.com/physicists-create-highest-man-made-temperature-ever-28236250/

    Physicists from the Brookhaven National Laboratory have gone down in the Guinness World Records book as having created the highest man-made temperature ever recorded.

    The scientists were smashing gold ions together using the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at the Brookhaven National Laboratory. The smashing together of the ions created a fluid called quark-gluon plasma.

    The smashing together of those gold ions simulated conditions similar to those during the creation of the universe and generated a temperature of 7.2 trillion degrees Fahrenheit. That is 250,000 times hotter than the temperature at the core of the sun. The Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider is a gigantic 2.4 mile long ring where ions are accelerated to speeds close to that of light.


    The experiment being conducted was called PHENIX. The experiment saw gold ions being accelerated around the ring from both directions and crashed together in one of six experimental chambers around the accelerator.

    The researchers observed the very brief formation of quark-gluon plasma, which is described as and nearly frictionless fluid with a temperature of 4,000,000,000,000°

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    Anyone have a light ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    How could then read that temperature?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    with a really really tall mercury thermometer ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    Lasers


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement
    Doubt it. they don't get news over there!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Carles Puyol


    Would that not burn through whatever container it was in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    7.2 trillion degrees Fahrenheit.

    ...Fahrenheit?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement

    stop all science until worlds problems are solved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    similar to the BBQ test - hold your hand over it and count until your hand hurts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    Magnets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    So the hottest place in the world is Brookhaven National Laboratory and the coldest is MIT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    There's children starving in Africa,

    And look at you all, buying electronic equipment and paying for internet when you could be sending all of your money to feed the black babies :mad:


    Thats fcuking hot though, deadly :D , I'm fascinated by physics and general science lately


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    krudler wrote: »
    stop all science until worlds problems are solved?

    No, more like: Stop fruitless scientific endeavour until we've addressed basic human rights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    smash wrote: »
    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement
    Doubt it. they don't get news over there!

    Agreed, and even if they did get to hear of this - I doubt they'd care. They'd be too busy worrying about where their next meal would come from. Also, a child wouldn't have the capability to comprehend the range of a temperature such as this, much less a child from Africa where education standards would be substantially less than that of a first or even second world country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement

    Cancel your internet subscription and use that money to feed said child if you feel that strongly about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    7.2 trillion degrees Fahrenheit.

    ...Fahrenheit?!


    To be fair.....at that temperature does it really matter what label you stick on it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭wobblyknees


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement

    Somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement, and also that you can afford a laptop, PC, smartphone and internet access to publish smart arse responses to interesting news items.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    They put someone in there, obviously.

    "Yup, it's hot"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    No, more like: Stop fruitless scientific endeavour until we've addressed basic human rights

    so scientists should stop what they're doing until 3rd world countries sort their sh1t out, brilliant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    No, more like: Stop fruitless scientific endeavour until we've addressed basic human rights

    Says the man on an internet forum...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    No, more like: Stop fruitless scientific endeavour until we've addressed basic human rights

    I dont think this is a fruitless endeavour given that extremely high tempertures are required for nuclear fusion which could be revolutionary for mankind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?

    By sticking a finger in and then translating the decibel level of the loud scream of "Jesus, that's fuckin hot" into Celsius, using complicated maths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    No, more like: Stop fruitless scientific endeavour until we've addressed basic human rights

    Ah come on, are you serious??

    this kind of "pointless" scientific experimentation has been the basis for all manner of advancements. Would you have felt the same over the past number of years when the LHC project was going on? the result of this only this past week was the discovery of the elusive hoggs boson which is going to open the door to god knows what! Oh and before you say "pfft, yeah some tiny particle..great news". The LHC project inadvertidly lead to the discovery\creation of the world wide web, which you are currently using and is so central to all our lives you probably don't even realise it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    All these discoveries and advancements and still no hoverboards :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Sorry for irking so many people in this thread. I'm all for scientific advancement that benefits mankind, i just dont see the value in what was accomplished in reaching a higher man-made temperature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SeaFields wrote: »
    All these discoveries and advancements and still no hoverboards :(

    Or lightsabers, or portal guns, get on it science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    SeaFields wrote: »
    All these discoveries and advancements and still no hoverboards :(
    Deadline is 2015, otherwise we have to accept that the 'Back to the Future' trilogy may not have been a genuine documentary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Sorry for irking so many people in this thread. I'm all for scientific advancement that benefits mankind, i just dont see the value in what was accomplished in reaching a higher man-made temperature.

    No one saw the point in LASERs either.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    somewhere in africa a child who hasn't had anything to eat for 2 weeks is thrilled at the announcement

    You know it is about time Africa fended for itself.


    All the aid sent there over the past few decades. Ethiopia was supposed to be starving yet the population more than doubled.
    Maybe that is why some kid in Africa is hungry.

    I`d rather see money spent on scientific research than poured down the drain in Africa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Gurgle wrote: »
    Deadline is 2015, otherwise we have to accept that the 'Back to the Future' trilogy may not have been a genuine documentary.

    Well the hoverboards and self-drying coats, cars that run on rubbish, self tying shoes, robots that walk your dog, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    krudler wrote: »
    Or lightsabers, or portal guns, get on it science.

    I've got a matter transportation chamber, if only they'd make another one somewhere where it's not pissing it down.:(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Ah come on, are you serious??

    this kind of "pointless" scientific experimentation has been the basis for all manner of advancements. Would you have felt the same over the past number of years when the LHC project was going on? the result of this only this past week was the discovery of the elusive hoggs boson which is going to open the door to god knows what! Oh and before you say "pfft, yeah some tiny particle..great news". The LHC project inadvertidly lead to the discovery\creation of the world wide web, which you are currently using and is so central to all our lives you probably don't even realise it.


    What ?
    Please elaborate here ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I thought all secintific discoveries were supposed to be measured in Kelvins.

    For people saying that we should be givin the money to Africa, you must not realise that giving money to Africa will not increase the amount of food in Africa, it would just increase the cost of food in Africa. For money to work some countries have to be poor, its just economics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Would that not burn through whatever container it was in?

    Magnetic confinement I think. It's not sitting in contact with the container. One of the physics forum people would be useful now.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    How the f**k can they calculate the temperature in Fahrenheit? That was invented by using the theory that the coldest you could get was freezing saltey water in Germany, use Kelvin ffs


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Clareman wrote: »
    How the f**k can they calculate the temperature in Fahrenheit? That was invented by using the theory that the coldest you could get was freezing saltey water in Germany, use Kelvin ffs


    tbf they are physicists and you proabably are not so I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are wrong and the physicists are correct.

    there i said it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    i bet you'd get some heat rash from that :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Would that not burn through whatever container it was in?

    Well, not if it was in a thermos. Duh!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    You know it is about time Africa fended for itself.


    All the aid sent there over the past few decades. Ethiopia was supposed to be starving yet the population more than doubled.
    Maybe that is why some kid in Africa is hungry.

    I`d rather see money spent on scientific research than poured down the drain in Africa

    i totally agree .. africa has no intention of sorting itself out so long as aid keeps pouring in. almost akin to the welfare spongers not taking jobs during the boom years.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    well it looks like scientists are well on their way to creating scorthing hot universes with higg's boson and gold ions :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Sorry for irking so many people in this thread. I'm all for scientific advancement that benefits mankind, i just dont see the value in what was accomplished in reaching a higher man-made temperature.

    Thankfully, nobody has made you the grand arbiter of what constitutes a worthwhile scientific experiment.
    So your inability to perceive the worth in a scientific achievement will continue to matter fuck all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I dont think this is a fruitless endeavour given that extremely high tempertures are required for nuclear fusion which could be revolutionary for mankind.

    Major Burn!









    il get my coat...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    smash wrote: »
    How could then read that temperature?
    Hot stuff emits energy waves. By measuring the properties of these energy waves you can calculate how hot the source was.
    GarIT wrote: »
    I thought all secintific discoveries were supposed to be measured in Kelvins.
    They do. Stupid American site for some ridiculous reason decided to stick a Farenheit conversion in there.

    The actual measurement was around 4 trillion Kelvins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    seamus wrote: »
    They do. Stupid American site for some ridiculous reason decided to stick a Farenheit conversion in there.

    The actual measurement was around 4 trillion Kelvins.

    I'm surprised they didn't try to measure it in chicken nuggets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    So your inability to perceive the worth in a scientific achievement will continue to matter fuck all.

    Yes, i cannot percieve the invention of the lightbulb, the mobile phone, the airplane, personal computers, the internet and so on.

    Its all just over my head :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    Hot stuff emits energy waves. By measuring the properties of these energy waves you can calculate how hot the source was.
    They do. Stupid American site for some ridiculous reason decided to stick a Farenheit conversion in there.

    The actual measurement was around 4 trillion Kelvins.

    The ridiculous reason being that most people, including those of us who studied it cant remember the conversion. And if we did, we'd read it and turn it back into celcius anyway.

    Its not a scientific paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Yes, i cannot percieve the invention of the lightbulb, the mobile phone, the airplane, personal computers, the internet and so on.

    Its all just over my head :rolleyes:

    When they invented the laser, that had no real world application, would you have said that the money would have been better spent on aid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    What ?
    Please elaborate here ?

    the world wide web/internet was created at CERN to help scientists across europe study all the data produced from the site.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web#1979.E2.80.931991:_Development_of_the_World_Wide_Web


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    and they didnt set out to generate the highest temperature FFS!

    its not like they were bored and decided to have a laugh.

    Collisions in particle accelerators generate massive amounts of heat and they calculated the associated temperature.

    and as alluded to earlier super hot plasma is the way forward to getting nuclear fusion working.

    Nuclear fusion would end the worlds energy issues within a decade. As the main fuel is contained in water.


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