NCT new rules

Graces7

Just getting ready for the NCT.... apparently there are now new Draconian laws, since May 1st this year, that although they will take your money and do the test, they will even if it passes, not issue a certificate without photo ID anbd that specifically means either a passport or a driving licence.

As long as they don't mind an expired passport... I am still using my UK paper driving licence which is perfectly legal, and I am not planning to leave the country .

I emailed them suggesting the medical card should suffice.. to no avail.

Any thoughts welcome on this... madness...

Graces7

Graces7 wrote: »

Just getting ready for the NCT.... apparently there are now new Draconian laws, since May 1st this year, that although they will take your money and do the test, they will even if it passes, not issue a certificate without photo ID anbd that specifically means either a passport or a driving licence.

As long as they don't mind an expired passport... I am still using my UK paper driving licence which is perfectly legal, and I am not planning to leave the country .

I emailed them suggesting the medical card should suffice.. to no avail.

Any thoughts welcome on this... madness...

Bring your driving licence with you, as you are meant to do when you are driving anywhere. Problem solved.

él statutorio

Dónal wrote: »

Bring your driving licence with you, as you are meant to do when you are driving anywhere. Problem solved.

she has a UK license which doesn't have a photo on it.....

él statutorio

él statutorio wrote: »

she has a UK license which doesn't have a photo on it.....

Ah, I see. That wasn't explicit in the OP.

vectra

Bring your out of date passport

Graces7

vectra wrote: »

Bring your out of date passport

lol. I can see I am among lile-minded folk! Thank you...;)

I am fed up of these rules and regs; I was refused by vodafone for a mobile modem on this issue. I had no idea then my passport was out of date. Man said he could lose his job if he ignored it.

But then vodafone!!!

Guy:Incognito

Graces7 wrote: »

But then vodafone!!!

But then Vodafone what?

Is the paper UK licence not an accompaniment to the credit card one?

Anan1

Graces7 wrote: »

Any thoughts welcome on this... madness...

Graces7 wrote: »

I was refused by vodafone for a mobile modem on this issue.

Lots of places look for photo ID, for fairly obvious reasons.

Graces7

Anan1 wrote: »

Lots of places look for photo ID, for fairly obvious reasons.

Please explain.

I can think of no valid or obvious reason for this, not for a test on a car....

I suggested a medical card (they had not mentioned photo ID then) would surely do but no. Or bank statements etc.

Graces7

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

But then Vodafone what?

Is the paper UK licence not an accompaniment to the credit card one?

You mean you don't know re vodafone?

Accompaniment? New one to me is that...

Graces7

What are they up to now? If you book online, they say, they will give you money off a hotel stay?

Sigh....

Guy:Incognito

Graces7 wrote: »

You mean you don't know re vodafone?

Accompaniment? New one to me is that...

re Vodafone what? I dont get how "but then Vodafone" is a sentence, let alone one that means anything to what you were saying.

In fact I'm getting more confused as I read your posts.

accompaniment [əˈkʌmpənɪmənt əˈkʌmpnɪ-]
n
1. something that accompanies or is served or used with something else
2. something inessential or subsidiary that is added, as for ornament or symmetry
3. (Music / Classical Music) Music a subordinate part for an instrument, voices, or an orchestra


I thought you get the paper licence as a full version when you get the credit card licence in the UK?

What use is a driving licence with no picture? Sure it could be anyones.

Graces7 wrote: »

What are they up to now? If you book online, they say, they will give you money off a hotel stay?

Sigh....

Whats the issue with them offering incentives to use their online booking system and cut costs for them? Fairly common practice.

mitosis

I thought the photo one came out in 1998. How long are paper ones issued for before expiry?

washman3

Dónal wrote: »

Bring your driving licence with you, as you are meant to do when you are driving anywhere. Problem solved.[/QUOTE

I'm not really comfortable having a Polish guy in my local NCT centre looking at my driving licence. come to think of it i'm not happy with any of these guys looking at my licence.
A garda,custom officer,motor tax or insurance worker no problem but i dont believe these failed mechanics should have access to anyones licence or passport.
How was this rule allowed to become part of the NCT and what part does it play in safe motoring as was the whole concept of the NCT in the first place??

sentient_6

washman3 wrote: »

I'm not really comfortable having a Polish guy in my local NCT centre looking at my driving licence. come to think of it i'm not happy with any of these guys looking at my licence.
A garda,custom officer,motor tax or insurance worker no problem but i dont believe these failed mechanics should have access to anyones licence or passport.

:rolleyes: muppet. The IRISH ladies behind the counter in galway didnt look like failed polish mechanics to me. Such sh*te talk.

colm_mcm

washman3 wrote: »

I'm not really comfortable having a Polish guy in my local NCT centre looking at my driving licence.....
A garda,custom officer,motor tax or insurance worker no problem but i dont believe these failed mechanics should have access to anyones licence or passport.

They check it to verify who's bringing the car in. It's a responsible move as a result of some irresponsible goings on in the nct system in the past years.
Please don't bring the testers nationality into it.

If you've got a uk license, I take it you've been abroad before.

Cosmo K

sentient_6 wrote: »

washman3 wrote: »

I'm not really comfortable having a Polish guy in my local NCT centre looking at my driving licence. come to think of it i'm not happy with any of these guys looking at my licence.
A garda,custom officer,motor tax or insurance worker no problem but i dont believe these failed mechanics should have access to anyones licence or passport.

:rolleyes: muppet. The IRISH ladies behind the counter in galway didnt look like failed polish mechanics to me. Such sh*te talk.

Just bring your uk licence, they will accept it.

mb1725

I too thought the UK photo licence was introduced in 1998 and has to be renewed by DVLA every 10 years. I remember some fuss about photographs over 10 years old not being legal.

SCOOP 64

my uk licence has no photo,its the old type ,it runs out on 2036, at age 70 yrs.
my passport is also out of date, my nct due end of month.

SCOOP 64

mb1725 wrote: »

I too thought the UK photo licence was introduced in 1998 and has to be renewed by DVLA every 10 years. I remember some fuss about photographs over 10 years old not being legal.

I think if you renewed your licence after this date it will be 10 yr one with photo required,i still have old one until 2036,had no reason to renew it.

101sean

You are supposed to notify change of address on your UK license at which point you have to get a photocard licence. Obviously can't do it with an Irish address so many don't bother. My 10 year photocard expired so I used my sons address with signature off my in date UK passport. The old paper one is still legal though.

Graces7 and nig1 obviously have no desire to ever leave the country by air
Photo ID is becoming needed for more things these days :rolleyes:

mitosis

101sean wrote: »

You are supposed to notify change of address on your UK license at which point you have to get a photocard licence. Obviously can't do it with an Irish address so many don't bother. My 10 year photocard expired so I used my sons address with signature off my in date UK passport. The old paper one is still legal though.

Graces7 and nig1 obviously have no desire to ever leave the country by air
Photo ID is becoming needed for more things these days :rolleyes:

If you fail to notify, would that not invalidate your license?

Goafer

Dónal wrote: »

Bring your driving licence with you, as you are meant to do when you are driving anywhere. Problem solved.

I thought the Garda gave a week grace if you didn't have it on your person when requested

SCOOP 64

mitosis wrote: »

If you fail to notify, would that not invalidate your license?

ive never had problems producing the old uk licence to the guards , they never question it, even with uk address.

washman3

colm_mcm wrote: »

They check it to verify who's bringing the car in. It's a responsible move as a result of some irresponsible goings on in the nct system in the past years.
Please don't bring the testers nationality into it.

If you've got a uk license, I take it you've been abroad before.

Not a nationality issue,the Polish guy is actually the best mannered tester there, i also stated that i have an issue with ANY tester having access to a licence or passport. Inspection of a licence/passport would have done very little if anything to expose the irresponsible happenings in the past. what if the licence/passport produced is stolen or fake?
There just seems to be a continous campaign year after year to p##s people off with the addition of silly rules and practices.
I hold a full Irish (clean) driving licence, and yes, i was abroad many times.

colm_mcm

What problem do you have with someone looking at your license?

Given that you're letting them drive your car

michellie

Washman3 wrote:

I'm not really comfortable having a Polish guy in my local NCT centre looking at my driving licence. come to think of it i'm not happy with any of these guys looking at my licence.
A garda,custom officer,motor tax or insurance worker no problem but i dont believe these failed mechanics should have access to anyones licence or passport.
How was this rule allowed to become part of the NCT and what part does it play in safe motoring as was the whole concept of the NCT in the first place??

They have no interest in looking at your licence either. They ask for it because they have to, its come from management. The new rule has come from the AA.

I just can't see why some people have to be so awkward and make such a deal over such small things.a

wexie

nig1 wrote: »

my passport is also out of date, my nct due end of month.

but ehm....the picture is still you right?

surely the purpose of having to produce photo ID is to only make sure that it's you bringing the car in?

Last time I brought a car for NCT they didnt even ask for ID and I was bringing in my wife's car, which had been booked under her name, I told them it was the missus' car....not a bother...

(this was in Enniscorthy)

michellie

wexie wrote: »

Last time I brought a car for NCT they didnt even ask for ID and I was bringing in my wife's car, which had been booked under her name, I told them it was the missus' car....not a bother...

(this was in Enniscorthy)

They will now though and you won't get a cert till you produce it.

wexie

michellie wrote: »

They will now though and you won't get a cert till you produce it.

So would that mean that from now on only the registered owner can bring a car for NCT? Or (like in my example) if I bring the missus' car for NCT they just want to see ID so they have a record of who brought the car in?

(sorry just curious)

colm_mcm

They just want to see ID for the person presenting the car for test, doesn't have to be the owner or the person who booked it.

You could always just bring someone with you to hand in the keys who had ID and use theirs.

michellie

wexie wrote: »

michellie wrote: »

They will now though and you won't get a cert till you produce it.

So would that mean that from now on only the registered owner can bring a car for NCT? Or (like in my example) if I bring the missus' car for NCT they just want to see ID so they have a record of who brought the car in?

(sorry just curious)

Anyone can bring the car in, the driver (the person who drives the car to the centre) has to produce their license. No the centre doesn't have a record, but I'm sure its stored somewhere.

galwaytt

michellie wrote: »

Anyone can bring the car in, the driver (the person who drives the car to the centre) has to produce their license. No the centre doesn't have a record, but I'm sure its stored somewhere.

They scan the id and keep a copy of it - did that to mine, lately.

michellie

galwaytt wrote: »

michellie wrote: »

Anyone can bring the car in, the driver (the person who drives the car to the centre) has to produce their license. No the centre doesn't have a record, but I'm sure its stored somewhere.

They scan the id and keep a copy of it - did that to mine, lately.

Are you sure that was for nct ? There not scanned, the number is just entered into the system.

Where To

mb1725 wrote: »

I too thought the UK photo licence was introduced in 1998 and has to be renewed by DVLA every 10 years. I remember some fuss about photographs over 10 years old not being legal.

^^^^ I think this might be fake.

Jimbob 83

It's real its what he produced when he smashed his McClaren F1

Where To

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

It's real its what he produced when he smashed his McClaren F1

Can't believe I just googled that to see if true. . . . .

galwaytt

michellie wrote: »

Are you sure that was for nct ? There not scanned, the number is just entered into the system.

...actually, you're right: it was at the NCT centre........but it was for VRT, and I am 100% certain they copied it and attached print of it, the receipt for the (motorbike) and the UK DVLA papers together.

michellie

galwaytt wrote: »

michellie wrote: »

Are you sure that was for nct ? There not scanned, the number is just entered into the system.

...actually, you're right: it was at the NCT centre........but it was for VRT, and I am 100% certain they copied it and attached print of it, the receipt for the (motorbike) and the UK DVLA papers together.

Yea its just scanned for vrt, the nct lads don't even have scanners

rsole1

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

But then Vodafone what?

Is the paper UK licence not an accompaniment to the credit card one?

No it's the very old one that has no pic and lasts until you are 70 yo

Plascebo

Just booked my test on-line and they are asking for vehicle registration as well as photo i.d.

Has anyone being asked for this documentation?

michellie

Plascebo wrote: »

Just booked my test on-line and they are asking for vehicle registration as well as photo i.d.

Has anyone being asked for this documentation?

Everyone has always been asked to bring those in.

Plascebo

michellie wrote: »

Everyone has always been asked to bring those in.

I know you are supposed to have reg document with you but I have never been asked for them in the centre, just photographic i.d.?

101sean

I was asked for the reg doc which I've mislaid but they were happy with the form the tax disc was attached to. He said the ID was main thing as they enter the details on the computer.

slimjimmc

michellie wrote: »

They have no interest in looking at your licence either. They ask for it because they have to, its come from management. The new rule has come from the AA.

I just can't see why some people have to be so awkward and make such a deal over such small things.a

The 'new' rule has not come from the AA since the AA has nothing much to do with the NCT. All NCT rules are prescribed in law and therefore come from the Minister. The photo ID rule is actually a legal requirement.

washman3

sentient_6 wrote: »

:rolleyes: muppet. The IRISH ladies behind the counter in galway didnt look like failed polish mechanics to me. Such sh*te talk.

Its highly likely that those Irish girls are the receptionists. the testers are the guys usually wearing green overalls.
Unlike the busy Galway test centre my local one is just a single lane, where the testers also do the paperwork for the vehicle they test.

Cosmo K

slimjimmc wrote: »

The 'new' rule has not come from the AA since the AA has nothing much to do with the NCT. All NCT rules are prescribed in law and therefore come from the Minister. The photo ID rule is actually a legal requirement.

I don't think, the department or the minister had much to do with the new rules. The RSA is pretty much running the show nowadays, and they come up with new and exciting ideas every week...

michellie

Cosmo K wrote: »

slimjimmc wrote: »

The 'new' rule has not come from the AA since the AA has nothing much to do with the NCT. All NCT rules are prescribed in law and therefore come from the Minister. The photo ID rule is actually a legal requirement.

I don't think, the department or the minister had much to do with the new rules. The RSA is pretty much running the show nowadays, and they come up with new and exciting ideas every week...

The AA have a lot to do with the Nct actually. And it has come from them.fact.

Cosmo K

michellie wrote: »

The AA have a lot to do with the Nct actually. And it has come from them.fact.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The RSA is in charge of the NCT not the AA. The AA is doing random audits of test centers on behalf of the RSA, thats all. They have nothing to do with the running of NCT.

dahamsta

Sorry but michellie had "fact" at the end of their sentence, that makes their point irrefutable on the internets

slimjimmc

michellie wrote: »

The AA have a lot to do with the Nct actually. And it has come from them.fact.

The regulations governing the NCT come from the responsible minister currently Leo Veradkar, Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport. He, not the AA or any other private group, has the authority to impose any NCT regulations.
Even the RSA operate under the Minister's authority.


Of course, I'd expect the Minister to have received submissions from many groups, including the AA, when making his regulations. But the AA, like others, cannot make regulations. All they can do is suggest, lobby and try to influence the Minister to implement their views, just like you or me.