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  • 04-07-2012 8:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭


    Greetings to all of you out there.

    Fairly new to vaping (May 20th) and haven’t smoked tobacco since then, which is a major miracle if you knew me, had been smoking since I was 15 and for 39 years in total and roughly 30 fags a day, never been able to quit for longer than 3 days without going doolallytap and biting the head of anyone around me, and not even after my father died of lung cancer nearly 2 years ago, then I only lasted 2 days.

    My wife (a nurse and totally anti smoking) put me on the vaping track telling me about a work mate who uses e cigs, so went online and purchased the Joye 510, but found it a pain having to keep toping up the tip. Then tried smokegreen’s e cig and got on better but found the cartridge lost flavour and throat hit half way through the cartridge.

    Then did an even more extensive search and played many videos on Youtube watching Pbusardo, Grimm Green and that English bloke who keeps blowing rings when he takes a puff. And now I'm the proud owner of 3 eGo c Twist batteries ( cant have enough back ups) I find my best vape at around 4.1 volts with either the eGo Vision V2 (but find I get a burning taste half way down the 1.6ml range so have now ordered Smoktech 510 DCT V2 3,5ml and that should arrive tomorrow from the best shop who I buy all my stuff off.

    Also should get my Lavatube tomorrow with a Vivi Nova Tank V2, I want a back up I know I have 3 twist batt’s but want to try something with a much longer puffing time than the 3 1000 mAh twists, want something that will last longer than one day to take to work and not have to carry a big case with charger and spare batts.

    I currently vape with a 60/40% mix of tobacco and banana flavour tried the coffee but its bloody awful (rather vape Camel Dung favour) haven’t tried many different flavours as Banacco suits just fine.

    I'm not in it for saving money, but at my age I'm starting to feel mortal, and I am enjoying it knowing I might get to see my retirement age (touch wood) I'm just sorry I never came across these devices years ago.

    Well that’s my intro and I look forward to participating and learning from all you experienced vapours on the forum.

    Sorry for boring the pants off you if you got this far.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    Hi Kiffy - great to have your here and to hear about your ecig experiences.
    I have the Lavatube with the Vivi Nova Tank V2 as well and it works very well for me.
    It lasts the whole day really, maybe a small top up in the evening or a change of Tank to another flavour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    Xantia wrote: »
    Hi Kiffy - great to have your here and to hear about your ecig experiences.
    I have the Lavatube with the Vivi Nova Tank V2 as well and it works very well for me.
    It lasts the whole day really, maybe a small top up in the evening or a change of Tank to another flavour.
    Thanks Xantia. Don't really know how many ml's i puff a day as I have to keep topping up my eGo Vision V2 due to burning tast, but the 3.5 ml tank you use will give a good idea, does the battery life last all day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    Yes it lasts me all day and I was dragging on it quite a lot when I started out on it first.
    I put the used battery in the charger and it showed up with a green LED but I then discovered that the charger was not plugged in!
    So if you charge up overnight it will be fine.
    I got another tank today and some more juices.
    Eventually I hope to have a tank for each type of juice but maybe another lavatube first - just in case!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    Xantia wrote: »
    Yes it lasts me all day and I was dragging on it quite a lot when I started out on it first.
    I put the used battery in the charger and it showed up with a green LED but I then discovered that the charger was not plugged in!
    So if you charge up overnight it will be fine.
    I got another tank today and some more juices.
    Eventually I hope to have a tank for each type of juice but maybe another lavatube first - just in case!
    That's good news, I have ordered another battery along with the 2 that comes with the kit, I won't put anything to chance :D I was hoping their 2200 mah batteries would last over a day, but I sometimes can vape for bloody hours when sat in front of the telly without noticing (but my little nest of vipers next to me does)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    vaping at higher voltages on a lavatube can drain the battery pretty fast, although it depends on the resistance of the atomiser/cartomiser to see what amps you're drawing

    when I used the lavatube I had to charge/change the batteries once a day, sometimes twice if I was going at it hard. great performance though

    just be careful with the batteries. very unlikely anything will happen, the chances are slim but the usual safety stuff applies. dont throw them off walls :), dont leave them charging and piss off for the day or go to sleep.
    it's best to change them when they're around halfway done, if you keep charging them to max and then using them up till their empty they wont live as long

    come along to the vapefest in abbeyleix in september, you'll be able to try out loads of juices and see what other weird **** people are using to vape


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    vaping at higher voltages on a lavatube can drain the battery pretty fast, although it depends on the resistance of the atomiser/cartomiser to see what amps you're drawing

    when I used the lavatube I had to charge/change the batteries once a day, sometimes twice if I was going at it hard. great performance though

    just be careful with the batteries. very unlikely anything will happen, the chances are slim but the usual safety stuff applies. dont throw them off walls :), dont leave them charging and piss off for the day or go to sleep.
    it's best to change them when they're around halfway done, if you keep charging them to max and then using them up till their empty they wont live as long

    come along to the vapefest in abbeyleix in september, you'll be able to try out loads of juices and see what other weird **** people are using to vape

    I though they had a safety charge cut off when fully charged like my C Twists? or so I thought I read somewhere.
    Have read about the Vapefest but found out my wife has booked us for a weekend away in Dingle the following weekend for our 30th anniversary :mad: and also working that weekend, so doubt I can make it, if it was on the following Saturday I have no doubt my missus would have canceled Dingle for me to go to the Vapefest ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    the chargers have safety cut offs alright and depending on the type of battery you have it should have protection circuitry as well but electronics fail and when lithium ion batteries go wrong they go ****ing wrong. chances are nothing will happen but especially with kids in the house, it's not worth the risk imo. If these things go as wrong as they can go they can vent toxic gas and depending on the type of battery that gas can catch flame which can lead to a pretty big and fiery boom and even if it doesn't unless you charge your batteries in a room without any wood/paper/carpet in it... chances are something is going to catch fire and then...

    i dont mean to scare you off, so long as you treat the batteries well you'll be fine. it's just better to be safe with something that's potentially as dangerous as these things are.


    the likes of laptops and mobile phones have far better protection circuitry than ecigs and still even they go wrong sometimes. there's never a guarantee of absolute safety :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    kiffy wrote: »
    Greetings to all of you out there.

    Fairly new to vaping (May 20th) and haven’t smoked tobacco since then, which is a major miracle if you knew me, had been smoking since I was 15 and for 39 years in total and roughly 30 fags a day, never been able to quit for longer than 3 days without going doolallytap and biting the head of anyone around me, and not even after my father died of lung cancer nearly 2 years ago, then I only lasted 2 days.

    My wife (a nurse and totally anti smoking) put me on the vaping track telling me about a work mate who uses e cigs, so went online and purchased the Joye 510, but found it a pain having to keep toping up the tip. Then tried smokegreen’s e cig and got on better but found the cartridge lost flavour and throat hit half way through the cartridge.

    Then did an even more extensive search and played many videos on Youtube watching Pbusardo, Grimm Green and that English bloke who keeps blowing rings when he takes a puff. And now I'm the proud owner of 3 eGo c Twist batteries ( cant have enough back ups) I find my best vape at around 4.1 volts with either the eGo Vision V2 (but find I get a burning taste half way down the 1.6ml range so have now ordered Smoktech 510 DCT V2 3,5ml and that should arrive tomorrow from the best shop who I buy all my stuff off.

    Also should get my Lavatube tomorrow with a Vivi Nova Tank V2, I want a back up I know I have 3 twist batt’s but want to try something with a much longer puffing time than the 3 1000 mAh twists, want something that will last longer than one day to take to work and not have to carry a big case with charger and spare batts.

    I currently vape with a 60/40% mix of tobacco and banana flavour tried the coffee but its bloody awful (rather vape Camel Dung favour) haven’t tried many different flavours as Banacco suits just fine.

    I'm not in it for saving money, but at my age I'm starting to feel mortal, and I am enjoying it knowing I might get to see my retirement age (touch wood) I'm just sorry I never came across these devices years ago.

    Well that’s my intro and I look forward to participating and learning from all you experienced vapours on the forum.

    Sorry for boring the pants off you if you got this far.

    Welcome to the forum and your not boring the pants off us. Its always great to hear from people who manage to get away from the evil tobacco by vaping. Well done :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    the chargers have safety cut offs alright and depending on the type of battery you have it should have protection circuitry as well but electronics fail and when lithium ion batteries go wrong they go ****ing wrong. chances are nothing will happen but especially with kids in the house, it's not worth the risk imo. If these things go as wrong as they can go they can vent toxic gas and depending on the type of battery that gas can catch flame which can lead to a pretty big and fiery boom and even if it doesn't unless you charge your batteries in a room without any wood/paper/carpet in it... chances are something is going to catch fire and then...

    i dont mean to scare you off, so long as you treat the batteries well you'll be fine. it's just better to be safe with something that's potentially as dangerous as these things are.


    the likes of laptops and mobile phones have far better protection circuitry than ecigs and still even they go wrong sometimes. there's never a guarantee of absolute safety :)

    Well thanks for that, that's really cheered me up and put my mind at ease about leaving batteries charging over night :). Luckily no small kids in the house, biggest kid is me ;) But I get your point, thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you can tell I've never been married :p 'little nest of vipers' I get it now :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    you can tell I've never been married :p 'little nest of vipers' I get it now :D
    You don't know what you've missed :(
    You can't beat a good quote off Basil Faulty, think his Cybil would have drove him to vape if they made a 3rd series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    newmark wrote: »
    Welcome to the forum and your not boring the pants off us. Its always great to hear from people who manage to get away from the evil tobacco by vaping. Well done :D
    Thanks, just hope the EU and Irish government feel the same way, that's my biggest fear. The HSE have told me (email) there will be an EU directive sooner rather than later on vaping, but he longer they leave it the more of us there will be and harder to ban/restrict it (hopefully)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    kiffy wrote: »
    Thanks, just hope the EU and Irish government feel the same way, that's my biggest fear. The HSE have told me (email) there will be an EU directive sooner rather than later on vaping, but he longer they leave it the more of us there will be and harder to ban/restrict it (hopefully)

    I know what you mean. Hopefully Vapefest Ireland might provide a platform for vapers and vendors to discuss the possibilty of organising an Irish version of the eccauk Some good info on that site as well on legal stuff happening.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Welcome aboard man!

    I used a lavatube for a couple of months, I was using 1500mah batteries and as long as your not changing the voltage every puff you take it'll last you all day for sure, find your sweet spot and stick to it while out and about.

    Well done on getting so far, in no time you'll be saying 3/4/5/6 months since your last smoke.

    If ya have any questions don't be afraid to ask


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    eeloe wrote: »
    Welcome aboard man!

    I used a lavatube for a couple of months, I was using 1500mah batteries and as long as your not changing the voltage every puff you take it'll last you all day for sure, find your sweet spot and stick to it while out and about.

    Well done on getting so far, in no time you'll be saying 3/4/5/6 months since your last smoke.

    If ya have any questions don't be afraid to ask

    Glad you said that :D

    Thanks eeloe.
    Just curious why did you stop using the Lavatube after a couple of months?

    The main reason for buying the Lavatube is I want to be SELF SUFFICENT IN VAPING. I mean their batteries I assume can be bought in most good electrical stores? As with the twist you have to purchase new batteries/bodies so if or when the government ban them (due to fears of tax losses and not for our health reasons) I won’t be able to purchase anything (I’m a born pessimist and won’t change my way of thinking now). I bought 2 bottles of 38ml glycerin for €0.88 each, great plumes of vapor from it but no taste and most of all no throat hit at all (I know it’s the nicotine that gives the throat hit but there must be a way or additive to give flavour and a throat hit???)

    I saw on that English blokes review website (the one who blows rings and constantly waving away the vapor) that there is a genesis version called the Orion v2 and built like a German tank (I think) and it uses homemade atomizers with mesh and wire, a bit of a chore but it works, but there is a list of almost 500 peeps waiting for one, so I can’t wait about 5 years for one. So if there is an atomizer/clearomizer that can be rebuilt that would another step to self sufficiency.

    So if anyone has any tips or knowledge of how to go about building what I’m after please pass on the info, I know it will be a chore but I’m sure my wife will soon pick up the hang of it ha-ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    kiffy wrote: »
    Glad you said that :D

    Thanks eeloe.
    Just curious why did you stop using the Lavatube after a couple of months?

    The main reason for buying the Lavatube is I want to be SELF SUFFICENT IN VAPING. I mean their batteries I assume can be bought in most good electrical stores? As with the twist you have to purchase new batteries/bodies so if or when the government ban them (due to fears of tax losses and not for our health reasons) I won’t be able to purchase anything (I’m a born pessimist and won’t change my way of thinking now). I bought 2 bottles of 38ml glycerin for €0.88 each, great plumes of vapor from it but no taste and most of all no throat hit at all (I know it’s the nicotine that gives the throat hit but there must be a way or additive to give flavour and a throat hit???)

    I saw on that English blokes review website (the one who blows rings and constantly waving away the vapor) that there is a genesis version called the Orion v2 and built like a German tank (I think) and it uses homemade atomizers with mesh and wire, a bit of a chore but it works, but there is a list of almost 500 peeps waiting for one, so I can’t wait about 5 years for one. So if there is an atomizer/clearomizer that can be rebuilt that would another step to self sufficiency.

    So if anyone has any tips or knowledge of how to go about building what I’m after please pass on the info, I know it will be a chore but I’m sure my wife will soon pick up the hang of it ha-ha.

    The glycerine you bought is probably Vegetable Glycerine and this does give a lot of vapor. The other ingredient that's usually used in making e-liquid is Propylene Glycol and this would give the throathit so its a case of finding the ratio of what works for you. I tend to prefer a 50/50 ratio of the 2 but some people like different ratios. The flavour concentrates and ingredients can easily be bought and there are some Irish vendors selling them. I would advise if you are thinking of mixing your own e-liquid to hold off a while and thoroughly research it first as there is a nice bit to take in to do it safely. You could start of by looking at the DIY e-liquid thread here

    In regards to rebuildable atomisers there are many to choose from and they are becoming more and more popular. I am waiting delivery of a clockworks RTA which is a repairable atomiser with a tank. It has to be ordered off of clockworks on UKV and there is a bit of a waiting list, though its not as long as it used to be because he has got a guy to make some parts with a C&C machine which is speeding up the process. Again I'd advise you to research and there are some great threads like this one here on boards that covers a good few of them.

    There will also be a rebuildable table at Vapefest Ireland where I'm hoping some of the lads will bring theirs along to show people how they work etc on the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Just to add to eeloe's post, Clockworks also make an RDA which is a cinch to make your own coils for. It has 2 posts with screws to attach the wire. Unlike the RTA though it doesn't have a tank and can only hold about 1ml. Best flavour and vapour of anything that I've ever used.

    The RTA is another great option but from what I understand, it's a bit trickier to set it up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah the RDA is damned simple to use (although might be hard to master) im pretty sure the waiting list for one is only a week or two these days, th waiting list for the RTA is still a month or two afaik

    http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/
    has some info

    the RDA is a great piece of kit, probably more suited to vaping at home than out and about as juice can leak out the airhole in your pocket
    you can put some filler material in there to soak up juice so you can fit about 2ml in there and it wont leak though

    wick and resistance wire can all be got from an irish guy, think its 10 euro for 10metres of wick and 5 euro for 10 metres of wire. youll probably go through the first lot pretty fast as you learn how to make coils properly but once you get the h ang of it, 10m of each oughta last you an age.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    kiffy wrote: »
    Glad you said that :D

    Thanks eeloe.
    Just curious why did you stop using the Lavatube after a couple of months?

    The main reason for buying the Lavatube is I want to be SELF SUFFICENT IN VAPING. I mean their batteries I assume can be bought in most good electrical stores? As with the twist you have to purchase new batteries/bodies so if or when the government ban them (due to fears of tax losses and not for our health reasons) I won’t be able to purchase anything (I’m a born pessimist and won’t change my way of thinking now). I bought 2 bottles of 38ml glycerin for €0.88 each, great plumes of vapor from it but no taste and most of all no throat hit at all (I know it’s the nicotine that gives the throat hit but there must be a way or additive to give flavour and a throat hit???)

    I saw on that English blokes review website (the one who blows rings and constantly waving away the vapor) that there is a genesis version called the Orion v2 and built like a German tank (I think) and it uses homemade atomizers with mesh and wire, a bit of a chore but it works, but there is a list of almost 500 peeps waiting for one, so I can’t wait about 5 years for one. So if there is an atomizer/clearomizer that can be rebuilt that would another step to self sufficiency.

    So if anyone has any tips or knowledge of how to go about building what I’m after please pass on the info, I know it will be a chore but I’m sure my wife will soon pick up the hang of it ha-ha.

    Sorry i meant to say i used a lavatube exclusively for a couple of months, until my Fiance bought me a Silver Bullet for my birthday, and then i got sucked in by other MODS, so now i have a couple of PV(Personal Vaporisers), I still use the lavatube from time to time, but i have a couple of other options aswell! :) The lavatube is still one of my favourites tho!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    if you feel like spending a bit of money on something you can vape at different voltages on and will last days before needing to be charged, consider the throathit box mod





    think it costs around 150 euro and you might not be comfortable using it out and about but i've used pretty much nothing else since I got mine. i can get 2-3 days out of a single charge, it plugs in to charge like a mobile phone and you can use it while you charge it


    its more than likely way overkill for someone just starting out but since you dont seem to mind spending money, I figured I'd at least let you know the option exists :)


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Newmark uses one of those too, seems to love it.

    Any of the guys that seem to get their hands on a TH VV box all seem to love it, must be a cracking device :) looking forward to Vapefest to try it out! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    There are certainly a bucket load of devices out there, saved over €600 in my 46 days, but probably spent over €400 on bits and bobs, but money not the issue really, heath is. when I get my Lavatube today I will have 4 devices (2 I don't use anymore) Think I will need to build a shed if I get anymore :D. Have to say though my 3 twist batteries does me just fine, good TH and plenty of vapour, curious to see how the Lavatube does but will need to go up in ohms to get the voltage I'm used to.
    I must have a look at some of the DIY info to see how much I could actually do myself or buy from shops just in case worst scenario come in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    You can always try to sell the stuff you're not using. There's a buy and thread sell at the top of this forum and I think the trades section on UKVapers is quite busy.

    I've been tempted by the lavatubes and am afraid I'll end up getting a Provari or something after I see them at Vapefest but I love my egos. Mainly because they are so interchangeable


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I've been looking at provari's all week, it's heart breaking, the few quid that's built up from not smoking, doesn't stay around long! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Yeah, in my case I wasn't a heavy smoker so I'm probably just about breaking even. If you were a heavy smoker I'd say the break even point comes earlier.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I went haywire buying stuff at the start so didn't notice a difference, but I purposely didn't buy anything Vaping related for the month of June and I noticed a serious difference! :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭kiffy


    eeloe wrote: »
    I went haywire buying stuff at the start so didn't notice a difference, but I purposely didn't buy anything Vaping related for the month of June and I noticed a serious difference! :-)
    I'm about €65 up after 6 weeks, (saved €620 and spent €555) bought almost double of what I need in accessories just to make sure I never run out, and now have a bath full of liquid so should be alright for a while, would like to get my hands on some Nova heads as spares though, hopefully TBS will start to stock them when they get back from the Bahamas :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I haven't really added up what I've spent to be honest, be sickened if I did.

    Just find a juice that you really like and stick to it and you'll be quids in! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 charliej


    That's going to be my very first post not just in the vaping forum, but even on boards.ie. I'm reading threads for years, but never registered. :-)

    newmark pointed out this Irish Vapers forum, that could be useful as I'm also from Ireland. :-D

    So, I've changed to vape after 22 years of smoking. I really like it.
    I tried it with an e-health kit than I had a boge, and ego kits. Than I tried the lavatube, some dct, vision, 510 lr, buds, etc.
    Finally I've found what I always wanted, back in April.
    Right now I have several Genesis devices.

    I'm using them with different type of mesh and also with different resistance Kanthal and NiCr wires.

    I'm also using a bulli for dripping.

    I really like the Usa Liquid (difficult to find them), Real One, and Real Two, but my favourite is still probably the HC #1 (that's a shame, that it's also difficult to get some).
    I also mix liquids and flavours. I'm using flavourart and inawera flavours.

    I started with 24mg liquid and I'm down to 6mg which I think is a great benefit.
    And I don't miss the TH, as my Genesis devices can still give me an extremely strong TH even with 6mg liquid.

    I think, that's all what I can write for the first time. :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    charliej wrote: »
    That's going to be my very first post not just in the vaping forum, but even on boards.ie. I'm reading threads for years, but never registered. :-)

    newmark pointed out this Irish Vapers forum, that could be useful as I'm also from Ireland. :-D

    So, I've changed to vape after 22 years of smoking. I really like it.
    I tried it with an e-health kit than I had a boge, and ego kits. Than I tried the lavatube, some dct, vision, 510 lr, buds, etc.
    Finally I've found what I always wanted, back in April.
    Right now I have several Genesis devices.

    I'm using them with different type of mesh and also with different resistance Kanthal and NiCr wires.

    I'm also using a bulli for dripping.

    I really like the Usa Liquid (difficult to find them), Real One, and Real Two, but my favourite is still probably the HC #1 (that's a shame, that it's also difficult to get some).
    I also mix liquids and flavours. I'm using flavourart and inawera flavours.

    I started with 24mg liquid and I'm down to 6mg which I think is a great benefit.
    And I don't miss the TH, as my Genesis devices can still give me an extremely strong TH even with 6mg liquid.

    I think, that's all what I can write for the first time. :-)


    Hi Charliej
    Glad you could make it over here and welcome :)
    You have definitely gone the full circle with devices you have tried out and I look forward to hearing more about the Genesis style devices.

    I have had a few rebuildables none of them for very long admittedly as I just found them too hard to get working right but the one that I did manage to get working fairly good was the Genesis LV and I would probably be tempted to get another Genesis type at some stage in the future.


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