[Neil_Sedaka]

I think I've reached the point where I'm willing to try making my own, cost effective juice.

Menthol 18mg is my poison, so if I were to make some, would I be right in thinking that I need the following:

PG base nicotine (just seems to wick better in tanks)
PG or VG to thin it out/bulk it up
Menthol flavouring

Is Inewara the place to shop?

Thanks for any advice.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

inawera has some nice flavours although i cant speak to their menthol as I hate the stuff

the best thing to do imo is to buy 100ml of their 36mg flavourless pg liquid, then buy 1 or 200ml of their 0mg flavourless pg liquid so you can make you whatever strength of base liquid you want

[Bubba9]

I made my first batch of DIY liquid a fortnight ago with flavours I got from Inawera. I got 17 different flavours and made up 5mls of each. I read that you have to steep them for at least two weeks to get the full flavour so tested two of them last night. Black Cherry was horrible but Canadian Maplewood was great...just like the stuff you buy. I used a 52mg base 75% PG 25% VG. 5% flavour. I used the EJuice Me Up calculator which was very helpful. One thing I would advise you is to ignore the drop measures and use a syringe...take the plunger out and pour the liquid in that way you'll get an accurate measure. It's very cheap and fun too. Best of luck with it

[tommy2bad]

Originally Posted by Neil_Sedaka

I think I've reached the point where I'm willing to try making my own, cost effective juice.

Menthol 18mg is my poison, so if I were to make some, would I be right in thinking that I need the following:

PG base nicotine (just seems to wick better in tanks)
PG or VG to thin it out/bulk it up
Menthol flavouring

Is Inewara the place to shop?

Thanks for any advice.

If you go for Inawera they have Base VPG - POWER which is a 50/50 pg vg mix. You can get it with 0,6, 12, 18, 26 and 36%nic.
Dekang standard is 70/30 pg vg so you can judge how much mix you need by how good you find that for wicking.
Price is based on nic content you could get a 36% and 6% 100 mil of each mix them half and half to have 21%nic 200ml. Cost you about 15 euro.
Add flavor at anything from 5 to 20%, most you would need is 40 mls of flavor
Another 12 euro P&P about a fiver.
10%flavor and you have 19mg nic juice, 200mls for 32 euro.
Assuming you get flavors you can use thats a good bargain.
Inawrea have a good selection of flavors, I'v tried about 12 of them and used 10. 2 were so not to my taste that I left them alone after testing.
Delivery was about 10 days first time and almost 3 weeks the next time (got anote saying that they were out of one flavor and held off till it could be included, could have put that on the tracking but..).

I havn't tried any other supplier but their are some reports in the liquid reviews thread of flavors from Inawera and others.

[tommy2bad]

Originally Posted by Bubba9

I made my first batch of DIY liquid a fortnight ago with flavours I got from Inawera. I got 17 different flavours and made up 5mls of each. I read that you have to steep them for at least two weeks to get the full flavour so tested two of them last night. Black Cherry was horrible but Canadian Maplewood was great...just like the stuff you buy. I used a 52mg base 75% PG 25% VG. 5% flavour. I used the EJuice Me Up calculator which was very helpful. One thing I would advise you is to ignore the drop measures and use a syringe...take the plunger out and pour the liquid in that way you'll get an accurate measure. It's very cheap and fun too. Best of luck with it

Where did you get the 52mg base?
I'v never had the patience to wait a fortnight, did you try it fresh to see if it was different?
Please do post your flavor review in the liquid thread, I'm not stopped buying yet.

[Neil_Sedaka]

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

[Bubba9]

Originally Posted by tommy2bad

Where did you get the 52mg base?
I'v never had the patience to wait a fortnight, did you try it fresh to see if it was different?
Please do post your flavor review in the liquid thread, I'm not stopped buying yet.

I was wrong, it was 54mg. Got it here:

http://www.ecigwizard.com/shop/en/mi...-pg-or-vg.html

You can get higher strengths in China. You can even get 100% pure nicotine which I think is near enough to 1000mg which of course is poison and shouldn't be posted let alone sold. I got the PG & VG from Irish Vapors and just the flavours from Inawera.

No, just bottled it up and put away after mixing. As an old girlfriend told me once anything good is worth waiting for

I'll hold off on the liquid reviews until I have this lark perfected cause if something tastes bad it's most likely me than the juice that's at fault.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

whenever I made juices I just vaped them straight away, bugger that steeping malarky

although I only ever made 5ml, always meant to make 30ml when i perfectedf it.. and then just bought more juice and kept "intending" to mix more in the future

[alec76]

the best thing to do imo is to buy 100ml of their 36mg flavourless pg liquid, then buy 1 or 200ml of their 0mg flavourless pg liquid

If you go for Inawera they have Base VPG - POWER which is a 50/50 pg vg mix. You can get it with 0,6, 12, 18, 26 and 36%nic.
Dekang standard is 70/30 pg vg so you can judge how much mix you need by how good you find that for wicking.
Price is based on nic content you could get a 36% and 6% 100 mil of each mix them half and half to have 21%nic 200ml.

er... I would say more practical way to do is to get :
- PG eco base 38mg
http://www.inawera.com/pg-ecobaza-38-mg-ml-p-300.html
- Propylene Glycol
http://www.inawera.com/glycol-propyl...0-ml-p-18.html
- VG
http://www.inawera.com/pharmaceutica...-ml-p-474.html

these 3 items let you make Any type of mix u want
5O/5O , 7O/3O , 75/25 ,65/35 ( PG/VG) etc

[Neil_Sedaka]

Thanks again folks, plenty of food for thought there.

[Amigaman]

and if you're serious about menthol get some menthol crystals
http://www.reachpharmacy.com/shop/Be...matherapy.html
available from boots ,other pharmicies or health food shops...boots have them for €2.20
Good for spicing up most premixed juices :-) - enjoy...

[derra]

Originally Posted by alec76

- VG
http://www.inawera.com/pharmaceutica...-ml-p-474.html

Would it be better to use 0 nic VG?
It is diluted with 15% water.
http://www.inawera.com/vg-biobaza-0mgml-p-306.html

[alec76]

It is diluted with 15% water

I didn't know that , probably worth a try....
It is probably makes sense when u using only VG based liquid ( as VG very thick in comparison to PG , wicking won't be great without water ) ,but as far as we normally mixing pg- vg 65/35 ,70/30 etc , hardly any need for water IMO ...
I've tried to add some brandy in to the juice(10 %) - not bad at all, not my favorite though

[Bubba9]

Originally Posted by derra

Would it be better to use 0 nic VG?
It is diluted with 15% water.
http://www.inawera.com/vg-biobaza-0mgml-p-306.html

Probably a stupid question but are you talking about 0 nic as a base? How do you make a base of 0 or 6 into a juice of 18mg. I'm very new to this and thought you just get a higher base than you vape and dilute it down with PG/VG and add flavour.

[alec76]

You are right , to make 18 mg , u have to get higher base -- 38 mg for instance .
what derra saying is instead diluting it with pure VG u might do it with VG BASE 0mg