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When will global population start to be controlled ??

  • 03-07-2012 2:08pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭


    When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

    USA
    Europe
    everywhere basically

    We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

    Thoughts anyone ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

    USA
    Europe
    everywhere basically

    We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

    Thoughts anyone ??

    You could fit the population of the world into Wales. Plenty of room left, even for alarmists.

    So shag away, dear boy. Shag to your heart's content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    i don't know but what i do know is if we lived by necessity rather than want we wouldn't have to be thinking about it for a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    Stock pike as much turf as you can get !!! when the petrol runs out we'll have to convert our cars to run turn, with an AGA cooker installed in place of an engine !!

    That my friend is the future !! population control will be automatic ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

    USA
    Europe
    everywhere basically

    We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

    Thoughts anyone ??

    it has already started in most western world countries.

    the average family amongst 20 - 40 year old's now consists of 2 -3 children compared to the 8 - 9 kids our grand parents generation had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    it has already started in most western world countries.

    the average family amongst 20 - 40 year old's now consists of 2 -3 children compared to the 8 - 9 kids our grand parents generation had.

    That was just Ireland......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    No we're not...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    summerskin wrote: »
    That was just Ireland......

    no it was similar in other european countries and even in the states.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    OP, I have personally being doing my own small bit to control the world's population for a few years now;).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    When everyone turns gay!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    We're running out of food

    People in the west living shorter and unhealthy lives from obesity and we're running out of food?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    they already control it...

    cuts in childrens allowance for third children onwards... the bastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Thoughts anyone ??

    Most of the countries in the 'western world'/Russia etc are in population decline. The UN has reports descibing it as a ticking demographic timebomb. For example with something like the next 50 years, the population of Germany is set to drop by 20% odd. China's population is also predicted to decline in the not too distant future, as is India's IIRC.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    1ZRed wrote: »
    When everyone turns gay!!

    so your saying it has already hapened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    immigration is an essential part of european planning....due to the falling birthrate among the endemic people......there will not be enough workers to keep the older population......

    so they want to increase, not decrease their populations......


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Stiffler2 wrote: »

    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    The only stuff we are running out of is the vast quantities left to rot becuase of quotas that are in place to keep the economy "competitive."

    The problem is down to management of resources, not a lack, or impending lack of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    Stock pike as much turf as you can get !!! when the petrol runs out we'll have to convert our cars to run turn, with an AGA cooker installed in place of an engine !!

    That my friend is the future !! population control will be automatic ..

    we'd be better off making engines that run on poteén.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    There is a major population decline in many developed country's actually.

    The majority of the growth is in third world countries. The very places where they cannot afford more kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    we'd be better off making engines that run on poteén.

    I know a guy for that.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    1ZRed wrote: »
    I know a guy for that.....

    what making poteén or building engines that can run on poteén?

    cos it's probably safe to say most of us know someone that makes poteén... the latter is hard to find


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,228 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    After several years of tweaking, and a Release to Manufacturers, they'll finally get that deadly virus sorted out. So far it's been a bit of a mish-mash because it hasn't killed enough people during testing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    After several years of tweaking, and a Release to Manufacturers, they'll finally get that deadly virus sorted out. So far it's been a bit of a mish-mash because it hasn't killed enough people during testing.

    ebola was one such virus engineered in a lab to be deadly... tested on a small village in africa then napalmed to cover it up.


    or so the conspiracy theorists say ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    so your saying it has already hapened

    What? There will never be a time when everyone is gay.

    Biology has nothing to do with it. The truth is, we're just too slow to recruit new people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    It's probably more about how much we consume. So families in the West may have less kids but I think one American or European consumes the same amount as 350 Bangladeshis or something along those lines.
    It's not going to stop, humans are ridiculously greedy by nature so we'll consume and consume until stuff starts to run out, war, blah blah. We're f*cked, enjoy it while you can, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    There is a major population decline in many developed country's actually.

    The majority of the growth is in third world countries. The very places where they cannot afford more kids.

    But the reality is these little black children aren't jetting off on holidays, buying tonnes of needless crap, and hoovering up the Earth's resources like the rich white people in the West are. If poor families in dusty Sudan are having more kids, it doesn't really make any difference to the Earth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    put it this way
    if we ever need to control the population in ireland that would be a change
    over the course of history and even now, we all fuk off to other countrys haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Education Education and more education and genuine equal rights for women.

    If the above happens in underdeveloped and overpopulated countries then population should stabilise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    But the reality is these little black children aren't jetting off on holidays, buying tonnes of needless crap, and hoovering up the Earth's resources like the rich white people in the West are. If poor families in dusty Sudan are having more kids, it doesn't really make any difference to the Earth.

    Well at the rate things are going, there won't be many white Europeans left if we continue to have our average of 1.7 baby's and the Muslim Europeans continue to have an average of 6 baby's.

    Better start figuring out which direction Mecca is in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    charlemont wrote: »
    Education Education and more education and genuine equal rights for women.

    If the above happens in underdeveloped and overpopulated countries then population should stabilise.

    So that they can get rich and focus on a society where the only aim is expansion and consumerism? Isn't that not far worse for the planet than a family with 10 kids and a goat in a hut somewhere?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    saiint wrote: »
    put it this way
    if we ever need to control the population in ireland that would be a change
    over the course of history and even now, we all fuk off to other countrys haha

    Well true, Ireland will end up as a population sink, Basically it can support and absorb a lot more people than it currently supports.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    It's probably more about how much we consume. So families in the West may have less kids but I think one American or European consumes the same amount as 350 Bangladeshis or something along those lines.
    It's not going to stop, humans are ridiculously greedy by nature so we'll consume and consume until stuff starts to run out, war, blah blah. We're f*cked, enjoy it while you can, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.


    agreed - well said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    charlemont wrote: »
    Education Education and more education and genuine equal rights for women.

    If the above happens in underdeveloped and overpopulated countries then population should stabilise.

    Unfortunately that would require a massive cultural change which would be met with insane resistance (It already is) from local Jihadists and tribal gangs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    So that they can get rich and focus on a society where the only aim is expansion and consumerism? Isn't that not far worse for the planet than a family with 10 kids and a goat in a hut somewhere?

    They are your own words not mine..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,228 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Well at the rate things are going, there won't be many white Europeans left if we continue to have our average of 1.7 baby's and the Muslim Europeans continue to have an average of 6 baby's.

    Better start figuring out which direction Mecca is in.


    It can't be that difficult.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Well at the rate things are going, there won't be many white Europeans left if we continue to have our average of 1.7 baby's and the Muslim Europeans continue to have an average of 6 baby's.

    Better start figuring out which direction Mecca is in.

    Its simple maths really. By the time we are grandparents, indigenous Europeans will be a minority in our own continent.

    Sad, but true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Its simple maths really. By the time we are grandparents, indigenous Europeans will be a minority in our own continent.

    Sad, but true.

    Yeah but we must also factor in the amount of Muslims that explode.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Population ultimately is self regulating - if the water and food can't sustain growth then isn't any. Which leads to point two - there will be movement just as there always has been (or this would still be an empty island) but only a few % of the total population of the third world (can we still call it that?) do actually up sticks to the first world as most of course don't have the means. They simply move around the locally, so its another poor but slightly less impoverished country/region that feels the pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Yeah but we must also factor in the amount of Muslims that explode.

    If my eye on a nice piece of real state where I can go all native and set up my own government funded casino in fifty years from now.

    Big Chief Irish Ams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

    USA
    Europe
    everywhere basically

    We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

    We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

    It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

    Thoughts anyone ??

    The current population growth rate in Europe is 0.098 % (figure from 2010)
    This is predicted to turn into negative growth within the next few years.
    I think it was David Attanborough who, when asked how he would solve the problem of human overpopulation, said something like "Educate women. Women will for the most part not have 7 or 8 children when they know they have a choice"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Shenshen wrote: »
    The current population growth rate in Europe is 0.098 % (figure from 2010)
    This is predicted to turn into negative growth within the next few years.
    I think it was David Attanborough who, when asked how he would solve the problem of human overpopulation, said something like "Educate women. Women will for the most part not have 7 or 8 children when they know they have a choice"

    Here in Europe, education is open to all. As for the third world, its simply not our problem. Cut all aid and let them sort themselves out. Western interference does more harm than good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Here in Europe, education is open to all. As for the third world, its simply not our problem. Cut all aid and let them sort themselves out. Western interference does more harm than good.


    I'm not too sure you read my post, I'll give you a quick summary :

    Europe does not have a problem with overpopulation, its population will start shrinking.
    If you want to solve the problem of overpopulation, educate the female half of the population.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I'm not sure how I feel about population control, but I do think China's way of dealing with things is very, very wrong.

    I agree that the fact that those in the 1st World consuming so much more than the poorer countries is a huge issue and far more worrisome than over population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Shenshen wrote: »
    If you want to solve the problem of overpopulation, educate the female half of the population.

    How do you propose we do that? Cut all aid and the population would sort its self out. Survival of the fittest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Well at the rate things are going, there won't be many white Europeans left if we continue to have our average of 1.7 baby's and the Muslim Europeans continue to have an average of 6 baby's.

    Better start figuring out which direction Mecca is in.

    Mecca is to the East, so a compass will help you figure that out ;).

    Also, your figures are incorrect:
    Debunking a YouTube hit

    Here is an example from the article in regards to France:
    But no country on earth has such a high fertility rate and in Algeria and Morocco, the two nations which send the largest numbers of Muslim immigrants to France, the fertility rate is 2.38, according to the UN's 2008 figures.

    The number btw, will in likelihood come down, as it has with other groups in the past, and that number is only for France.

    Sorry, but the whole Muslims taking over Europe via some kind of baby boom is the same recycled nonsense, that was said about other groups in the past. Same thing has been said about Black people, Jews and various other minorities, and it all turned out to be nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    wes wrote: »
    Sorry, but the whole Muslims taking over Europe via some kind of baby boom is the same recycled nonsense, that was said about other groups in the past. Same thing has been said about Black people, Jews and various other minorities, and it all turned out to be nonsense.

    Couldn't give a bollix who takes it over, the end result will be the same. Indigenous Europeans becoming a minority in their own continent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    wes wrote: »
    Mecca is to the East, so a compass will help you figure that out ;).

    Also, your figures are incorrect:
    Debunking a YouTube hit

    Here is an example from the article in regards to France:


    The number btw, will in likelihood come down, as it has with other groups in the past, and that number is only for France.

    Sorry, but the whole Muslims taking over Europe via some kind of baby boom is the same recycled nonsense, that was said about other groups in the past. Same thing has been said about Black people, Jews and various other minorities, and it all turned out to be nonsense.


    I actually agree with you and am aware of what you say. I am of the mind that water finds it's own level and education is the key.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Couldn't give a bollix who takes it over, the end result will be the same. Indigenous Europeans becoming a minority in their own continent.

    No such thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    smash wrote: »
    No we're not...
    There's loads of everything left if we're all prepared to live like a Somalian.

    The cost of everything is going to go up we are running out of land, as population increases we'll have to turn more and more land into farming land to provide food.

    I don't think humans will ever see the sense in controlling our populations instead people won't be able to afford resources and a load of us will simply die off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    mike65 wrote: »
    No such thing!

    Why say that? Would you say there is no such thing as Native Americans or Aboriginals too?

    I am purely of European descent, ergo, I am indigenous to Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Couldn't give a bollix who takes it over, the end result will be the same. Indigenous Europeans becoming a minority in their own continent.

    The end result is that the figure presented are untrue, and as such European becoming a minority is not happening. Sorry, but such a claim is simple fiction, and its not even new fiction. Its been said the world over for centuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    I think Africa's and Asia's population is in needed to be controlled.
    They're the ones growing massively!


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