From LOST to Ripped MMA Fighter

gazzer

I would love to know what workout and diet plan Matthew Fox had to undertake to look like this. He is SERIOUSLY ripped

http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/alex_cross_2.jpg

LimGal

Fooking hell he looks like he has nearly zero body fat:eek:

Some transformation.

Zamboni

He needs a burger and a full body wax. Stat.

the drifter

couple of years stuck on an island will do that too you.

colman1212

That doesn't look healthy...

themandan6611

colman1212 wrote: »

That doesn't look healthy...

lets see a pic of you and we can judge if you are or not

Mellor

colman1212 wrote: »

That doesn't look healthy...

It looks worse because of the pose he is pulling I'd say.

MrStuffins

This was the first thing that came to mind

Before anyone says anything, I was not comparing him to Bale in The Machinist, it just came to mind.

O.P.H

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXtRKrcPwKE

Didn't notice anythin crazy about his physique from the trailer, what I did notice is how the film looks like the greatest crok of s**t. Its full of a load of famous enough actors all of whom never really made it to that lead star role and ya can see why critics absolutely go to town on Tyler Perry all the time, awful simply awful.

jayteecork

gazzer wrote: »

I would love to know what workout and diet plan Matthew Fox had to undertake to look like this. He is SERIOUSLY ripped

http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/alex_cross_2.jpg

That's seriously the guy from Lost?

WTF.

MrStuffins

The fact they hired Tyler Perry to be the "Good Guy" in this movie is mind-boggling.

He doesn't look convincing at all!

jayteecork

Reading about this film and must say it looks pretty ludicrous.

A hitman who likes inflicting pain on his victims, while moonlighting as an MMA fighter - whatever!

plus the tagline "Don't cross Alex Cross" !!

Mellor

jayteecork wrote: »

A hitman who likes inflicting pain on his victims,

That's not really that hard to believe, the character is basically a sadistic serial killer as well as a contract killer. That's probably more common that we think. There's at least one high profile killer who fits that.

while moonlighting as an MMA fighter - whatever!

plus the tagline "Don't cross Alex Cross" !!

I've no idea about he MMA part. There's no MMA in the book. I've no idea how that fits in, its probably ridiculous. Morgan freeman was brilliant as Alex Cross. I doubt this will live up to Kiss the Girls or Along came a Spider.

jayteecork

LOL!! As you serious? Top assassins will try and do their job as cleanly and efficiently as possible, you think any assassin worth his salt will be hanging around trying to make the victim suffer instead of getting away?

Seriously. I have no doubt these idiots exist but they're most certainly caught after the first couple of hits.

And who's going to employ a known psycho to do a hit instead of getting a consummate professional? I know I'd certainly opt for the latter.

MrStuffins

There are and have been many many people like this. One small example is Luis Garavito who is known to have killed AT LEAST 138 people, they are just the ones he confessed to and was found guilty of. The actual number is thought to be actually over 400!

And i've no idea how any of this is relevent to the Health & Fitness forum :P

jayteecork

MrStuffins wrote: »

There are and have been many many people like this. One small example is Luis Garavito who is known to have killed AT LEAST 138 people, they are just the ones he confessed to and was found guilty of. The actual number is thought to be actually over 400!

And i've no idea how any of this is relevent to the Health & Fitness forum :P

He's a serial killer you nut not a hitman.

MrStuffins

jayteecork wrote: »

He's a serial killer you nut not a hitman.

Ah, the dude in the movie is a hitman?

Apologies!

Even more reason not to see this movie!

Mellor

jayteecork wrote: »

LOL!! As you serious? Top assassins will try and do their job as cleanly and efficiently as possible, you think any assassin worth his salt will be hanging around trying to make the victim suffer instead of getting away?

What I was getting at was the two traits/personalities being separate. I'm not suggested that the local psycho is a good choice for a hitman.
I haven't seen the film, obviously. So don't know how they present it, but the character in the book was basically;

1. A total professional as a hitman for the mob (and others). And one of the best out there and had a reputation for being brutal when necessary. He worked efficiently and cleanly and left town with out leaving a trail.
2. He was also a complete psychopath. Between jobs he got the desire to kill. He toyed with his victims. He raped and disfigured college students. etc

Seriously. I have no doubt these idiots exist but they're most certainly caught after the first couple of hits.

Ever hear of Richard Kuklinski?
He was a killer for the mob. Active for 30 or 40 years. Victims well into the 100s. When he was on a hit, he was a professional. His professionalism is probably why he got away with it for so long, compared to loud mouth wannabe mobsters. But he was also a true psycho, he'd killing homeless people for fun/practice/etc, or people who pissed him off off in the bar. A couple of jobs he took were "special" where the guy specifically had to suffer.

I read his autobiography and its fascinating. AFAIK its in filming now. Hopefully they do it justice as the one above will probably be ridiculous.

AntiVirus

jayteecork wrote: »

LOL!! As you serious? Top assassins will try and do their job as cleanly and efficiently as possible, you think any assassin worth his salt will be hanging around trying to make the victim suffer instead of getting away?

A hitman does what he's paid to do, this often includes torture. Some of the cartel hitmen are the worst when it comes to torture.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/confessions-of-a-drug-cartel-hitman-on-the-run-2311664.html

singlesnights

Why did he feel the need to get his bf% that low?

the groutch

anyone else think he's on gear?

TeddyTedson

Wasn't this guy morbidly obese before:eek::eek:

Edit no it's not him. That would have been weird!
He doesn't look great here to be honest. Looks like a gear head.

El Guapo!

Mellor wrote: »

I've no idea about he MMA part. There's no MMA in the book. I've no idea how that fits in, its probably ridiculous. Morgan freeman was brilliant as Alex Cross. I doubt this will live up to Kiss the Girls or Along came a Spider.

This.

Brilliant books. Brilliant films.
This one looks shít.

He is in some serious shape though.

Brian?

the groutch wrote: »

anyone else think he's on gear?

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Wasn't this guy morbidly obese before:eek::eek:

Edit no it's not him. That would have been weird!
He doesn't look great here to be honest. Looks like a gear head.

If you think that shape is unbelievable without gear it's time to give up.

He has a decent amount of muscle and extremely low body fat. The picture exaggerates it.

TeddyTedson

briankeating wrote: »

If you think that shape is unbelievable without gear it's time to give up.

He has a decent amount of muscle and extremely low body fat. The picture exaggerates it.

But that's not what I'm saying.

Brian?

TeddyTedson wrote: »

But that's not what I'm saying.

You said he looks like a gear head. I don't understand why you would say that, no need for gear to look like that.

RNC

briankeating wrote: »

TeddyTedson wrote: »

But that's not what I'm saying.

You said he looks like a gear head. I don't understand why you would say that, no need for gear to look like that.

Gear head can also mean heroin user???

jive

briankeating wrote: »

You said he looks like a gear head. I don't understand why you would say that, no need for gear to look like that.

Every need really. For the vast majority of people, you'd look deflated and shít without gear with a body fat that low regardless of carbs, water retention, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible to look like that without gear, but it'd be a rare case where you could get such definition while maintaining the mass he has, imo.

TeddyTedson

briankeating wrote: »

You said he looks like a gear head. I don't understand why you would say that, no need for gear to look like that.

I was saying he looks like a heroin user with the prominent veins and slim ripped look.
If you see pictures of Anthony from RHCP from the mid 90s when he was a user, he had a similar body to that guy. I just mean aesthetically I don't think it looks good.

Brian?

TeddyTedson wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

You said he looks like a gear head. I don't understand why you would say that, no need for gear to look like that.

I was saying he looks like a heroin user with the prominent veins and slim ripped look.
If you see pictures of Anthony from RHCP from the mid 90s when he was a user, he had a similar body to that guy. I just mean aesthetically I don't think it looks good.

Ahhhhhhhhhh, I do apologise. Misunderstood. I wouldn't say he looks like a heroin addict though, they look like corpses in general.

Mellor

jive wrote: »

Every need really. For the vast majority of people, you'd look deflated and shít without gear with a body fat that low regardless of carbs, water retention, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible to look like that without gear, but it'd be a rare case where you could get such definition while maintaining the mass he has, imo.

You think that level of BF is impossible without steroids? There are thousands of tested athletes that would have very low BF. Plus the above is just a snapshot of a contrived pose, he doesn't walk around like that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "maintaining the mass", he looks pretty small tbh.

Thud

interesting if not a bit scary, supposedly the furr grows because the body doesn't have enough fat to retain heat...

http://www.anorexia-reflections.com/lanugo.html#axzz1zk4Pe7rY

UUJ_Lad

Think this is one of those times where serious loss in BF definitely does not suit the person in question

jive

Mellor wrote: »

You think that level of BF is impossible without steroids?

No, I didn't say that at all. It's definitely possible.

Mellor wrote: »

There are thousands of tested athletes that would have very low BF. Plus the above is just a snapshot of a contrived pose, he doesn't walk around like that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "maintaining the mass", he looks pretty small tbh.

He still has a decent amount of muscle mass it's fairly evident, the photo is probably shopped though. There are very few athletes, if any, who could maintain that physique with that mass and that low body fat. Also just because they're tested doesn't mean they're drug free. The vast majority of sports have piss poor testing but that's a whole other story. It's hard to say much from one photo, but if anyone looks like that consistently, contrived pose or not, they're using.

Judging from that photo alone then I would say that to maintain that condition consistently you'd have to be using. Can that condition be achieved naturally? Yes. Like I said though, one photo that's probably shopped probably doesn't even warrant this lengthy discussion I've just dribbled out!

Mellor

jive wrote: »

No, I didn't say that at all. It's definitely possible.

I shouldn't have used the word impossible, as you stated that it was possible but you thought it was very rare. I was disagreeing with the rare part.

He still has a decent amount of muscle mass it's fairly evident, the photo is probably shopped though. There are very few athletes, if any, who could maintain that physique with that mass and that low body fat.

We obviously have a different definition of muscle mass. He looks pretty small in the second pic. He is probably less than 70kg there. No matter what his bf% he hasn't much mass imo.

Judging from that photo alone then I would say that to maintain that condition consistently you'd have to be using.

I disagree that you'd have to be using. I really think you are underestimating the difference not having a 9-5 job could make. Or maybe I'm over estimating.

He could of been taking something, he's an actor so why not. But that's not really important to whether or not he have to be.

blah88

With different lighting and a bit of a tense, Irish MMA champion Conor McGregor would look pretty close to that, and he performs in this condition all year round. I think a lot of jealous people really underestimate how good some people's genetics are. I know plenty of people who naturally maintain muscle mass and low bodyfat without any gear. Also, Matthew Fox played Wide Receiver for his uni in the past and used to do modelling. He probably has good genetics when it comes to getting shredded. Couldn't see the Hurley, the obese guy from Lost doing it so easily.

jive

blah88 wrote: »

With different lighting and a bit of a tense, Irish MMA champion Conor McGregor would look pretty close to that, and he performs in this condition all year round. I think a lot of jealous people really underestimate how good some people's genetics are. I know plenty of people who naturally maintain muscle mass and low bodyfat without any gear. Also, Matthew Fox played Wide Receiver for his uni in the past and used to do modelling. He probably has good genetics when it comes to getting shredded. Couldn't see the Hurley, the obese guy from Lost doing it so easily.

That's him at effectively peak condition weighing in for a fight. He might be a bit depleted but also dehydrated which would help definition depending on the situation. He's nowhere near to as shredded as Fox is in the pic honestly. The difference might be small percentage wise but actually bridging that gap is pretty difficult. I would be of the opinion that anybody could achieve the condition McGregor is in there and maintain it.

Mellor wrote: »

We obviously have a different definition of muscle mass. He looks pretty small in the second pic. He is probably less than 70kg there. No matter what his bf% he hasn't much mass imo.

You can only see his head and neck in the 2nd pic and at such a low level of body fat anyone but long time bodybuilders would look small. Even genuinely natural bodybuilders would look small in those clothes at that body fat. Also he's 6 foot 2 which is another factor.

Mellor wrote: »

I disagree that you'd have to be using. I really think you are underestimating the difference not having a 9-5 job could make. Or maybe I'm over estimating.

He could of been taking something, he's an actor so why not. But that's not really important to whether or not he have to be.

I think that level is achievable naturally but would take a long time and you wouldn't be able to maintain it. Obviously it would be easier without a 9-5 job but for the most part the job wouldn't make that much of a difference. Obviously there are exceptions and to achieve his condition you'd obviously be far better off not having a job because it would take hardcore dieting and you'd feel like shít a lot of the time.

He could have been taking something, yeah, and he's an actor so he has to achieve such a physique in a relatively short time frame. Is it possible naturally? Yes, imo. Can you maintain that condition naturally? No, not possible IMO. You'd end up looking like you just escaped Auschwitz.

(Also this opinion is all formed from just those 2 photos, maybe he doesn't look like that daily - who knows?! He could not be using anything, but if I was an actor and am not competing against anyone else I'd use... a shít load of actors do)