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True GAA Fans

  • 02-07-2012 1:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭


    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    milos wrote: »
    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...

    How many of the hurling games have you got to this year, out of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    I was there, as were some other Dubs Boardsies. Some of us started meeting up through here a few years back and go to matches together all year round, Hurling and Football, club and county, home and away. We've met a few other Boardsies on occasions too. It would be good to get more going together, whatever your county. We post together all the time, attend the same games, but many never meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    I was there, but you got to remember this country is crippled by a recession and many people who may have went before can't afford to go now. They still watch it at home, but money is scarce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Formosa


    milos wrote: »
    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...

    How many club games do you go to?

    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,734 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    What's teh deal with teh Dublin support anyway.

    Up to 2009 they could not play a Dublin game as part of a double header beacuse of the demand from the Dublin fans, and that's whne they had not won anything.
    Now they can only half fill the place.

    I know the resession is one factor, but I am suprised at the level of the drop off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭milos


    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.

    I follow Dublin...
    As for the Hurling I go to Dublin Hurling when they are playing as part of a double header with the footballers..

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    milos wrote: »
    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.

    I follow Dublin...
    As for the Hurling I go to Dublin Hurling when they are playing as part of a double header with the footballers..

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin

    Oh dear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Alaska1


    milos wrote: »
    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.

    I follow Dublin...
    As for the Hurling I go to Dublin Hurling when they are playing as part of a double header with the footballers..

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin

    Epic Fail on both counts.

    I can this thread only going 1 way.

    Without trapsing back through your previous posts, seems thish thread was your first post in the GAA forum in quite awhile.

    Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    I cannot work out how people who are so passionate about Inter - County GAA & don't support there Local club,They are missing out on so much,The club scene is a million times better than inter county,But everyone to there own i suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Spideog Rua


    Funny that i didn't see you in Portlaoise last week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    milos wrote: »
    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...

    Mehhhh, I'll be there for the quarter final :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    milos wrote: »
    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...

    Mehhhh, I'll be there for the quarter final :)

    I'll do my usual and wait for my corporate tickets for the all Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    I wasn't there as I am dog sick. When I get better, I shall flay myself with a thorn bush whilst watching the replay of the Cork 2010 Semi Final as punishment. After that, the last twenty of the Cork 2011 League Final.

    Is that enough repentance for my sins?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭granturismo


    I've never been to a Dublin county game.

    I've never seen Dublin play a club game.

    I dont go to FOOTBALL games but do go to hurling games but that doesnt make me a 'GAA' supporter because soccer is soccer, hurling is hurling and football is 'GAA' or pronounced Gaaaaaaaaaa in the Pale where I live.

    I am a hurling supporter, I am a GAA supporter, do follow Kildare Football not I am but not a Gaaaaaaaaaa supporter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭wonga77


    It always amuses me how people in lots of counties claim to be experts on the county scene but never ever go to a club match or wouldnt know the first thing about their local club. The county teams and their players would be nothing without their clubs


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    milos wrote: »

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin


    Oh my good God.:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    milos wrote: »
    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.

    I follow Dublin...
    As for the Hurling I go to Dublin Hurling when they are playing as part of a double header with the footballers..

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin

    a true GAA fan indeed. no such thing as being called a sunshine supporter in your presence anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    To the Dubs fan with his 4 year old in Cusack 309 yesterday, with the "city that fought the empire shirt" .. who stood up turned around pointed with the "yeah you" to someone about 10 rows back and gave the double v (w?) fingers... would ya stay at home please next time.... True Dub ..no thanks ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    To the Dubs fan with his 4 year old in Cusack 309 yesterday, with the "city that fought the empire shirt" .. who stood up turned around pointed with the "yeah you" to someone about 10 rows back and gave the double v (w?) fingers... would ya stay at home please next time.... True Dub ..no thanks ...

    Doesn't sound like anyone on here. Might have been better saying it to him there and then. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Go to all the Dubs Championship games in Croker without fail.Dont go the league games.What does that make me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Go to all the Dubs Championship games in Croker without fail.Dont go the league games.What does that make me?

    Why don't you go to the league games? And when you say "Dubs Championship games" do you mean the footballers? Do you ever travel to see the footballers or hurlers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Doesn't sound like anyone on here. Might have been better saying it to him there and then. :p

    LMAO ... good man Joe.. being the designated driver with 4 kids in tow I needed me fingers and one good foot.. have an automatic :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Why don't you go to the league games? And when you say "Dubs Championship games" do you mean the footballers? Do you ever travel to see the footballers or hurlers?

    League of Ireland fan so go see the local football team first i'm afraid.Yeah just go see the footballers although seen the Hurlers a couple of times at Croker just before the footballers were on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    League of Ireland fan so go see the local football team first i'm afraid.Yeah just go see the footballers although seen the Hurlers a couple of times at Croker just before the footballers were on.

    Well then I guess you are what you are, a LoI fan with a casual interest in the Dublin football team...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    milos wrote: »
    Are you a Dubs fan.?
    Where were you on Sunday?
    TRUE Dubs are in Croker every time they play.
    TRUE Dubs are at every match no matter where or when.
    Amazing to see all the Irish colours around the city and suburbs during the soccer
    matches but when Dublin play we only see a handful of houses with Dub colours.
    Come on SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TURN UP AND YELL...
    PS
    €35 for 4 hours of top class sport in a world class clean and friendly stadium with food and drink readily available is NOT EXPENSIVE.
    Family tickets are even cheaper.
    How much is a ticket to Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Emirates Stadium...
    milos wrote: »
    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.

    I follow Dublin...
    As for the Hurling I go to Dublin Hurling when they are playing as part of a double header with the footballers..

    As regards a club match...I follow Dublin

    Ah now come on!!!!!!!!!!

    Surely at some point of your life you've come across the word CONTRADICTION

    I'm a Meath fan. I go to all O'Byrne Cup, League and Championship games. I also attend alot of Meath and Dublin Senior club championship games and pop down to the local club whenever I can make it.

    Does this make me a bigger or better GAA fan than someone who watches inter county games on TV? No.

    Who the fcuk am I to pass judgement on how someone should or shouldn't follow a sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Ah now come on!!!!!!!!!!

    Surely at some point of your life you've come across the word CONTRADICTION

    I'm a Meath fan. I go to all O'Byrne Cup, League and Championship games. I also attend alot of Meath and Dublin Senior club championship games and pop down to the local club whenever I can make it.

    Does this make me a bigger or better GAA fan than someone who watches inter county games on TV? No.

    Who the fcuk am I to pass judgement on how someone should or shouldn't follow a sport.

    I actually didn't realise those two posts were from the same poster. Hilarious :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Go to all the Dubs Championship games in Croker without fail.Dont go the league games.What does that make me?

    Better than a sunshine fan, so probably a mild weather fan. :) You should go to the league games. Some of them can be great. Get yourself a Parnell Pass and it will help. €130(Terrace)/€170(Stand) per annum guarantees you a ticket to all championship games (including the final as we found out last year) plus free entry to all home league games and free entry to any Dublin Club Championship game. Good value if you do decide to go to a lot of matches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭markie29


    I used to go to all GAA games Meath played at home or Croke park late 90s early 00s then i couldnt get a ticket for an All Ireland semi final after going to the games all year and stopped going to most games after that until last year.

    Went to some league games as they are a reasonable price for me and i can afford it but i cannot afford 30euro or the 35euro quoted for the leinster final...obviously im a bad supporter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    markie29 wrote: »
    I used to go to all GAA games Meath played at home or Croke park late 90s early 00s then i couldnt get a ticket for an All Ireland semi final after going to the games all year and stopped going to most games after that until last year.

    Went to some league games as they are a reasonable price for me and i can afford it but i cannot afford 30euro or the 35euro quoted for the leinster final...obviously im a bad supporter?

    You can't really be called a bad supporter if you can't afford to go to a game, that's a bit absurd.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭markie29


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    You can't really be called a bad supporter if you can't afford to go to a game, that's a bit absurd.

    I know i was being sarcastic at the OP talking about great gaa fans.
    I would love to go to every game...and have recently moved to dublin 8 and i am looking for a suitable GAA club so i can go to their games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    I spent last Saturday from 12.15 travelling from Carlow to Wexford, wexford back to Carlow. Bit of food, off to Portlaoise at 5.45 for 2nd game. Home from Portlaoise at 9.45.

    Went to see Carlow hurlers away to Wexford in a game they were 20/1 to win. Never stood a chance, down 7 regulars but I go to all league games...so no matter how hopeless it seemed I had to be in Wexford Park Saturday anyway. At ht only 3 pts down with strong wind behind us I felt like I might be there to witness a miracle. But 3 early 2nd half wex goals killed us off. Still tho 4-12 to 14 was not bad.

    Made trip home, got there around 5.25. Food, quick check on other scores, toilet....out the door again at 5.45 heading to Portlaoise. Same jersey does the job again.

    Got to Portlaoise around 6.40....big carlow support made it which surprised me. was about 60/40 for Laois which for home game wasn't much.
    Terrible game, Laois won....carlow kicked 14 wides and really should have won it well. Our 14 wides included a free from in front of posts which was kicked 5 yards left :(

    Seriously frustrating as that was a bad Laois team, as Monaghan will show in next round.

    Yea got outta there and home for around 9.45. After seeing 2 expected defeats.

    Thats it for co till Jan 2013 and more div 4 games v Kilkenny & London to enjoy :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    The term "true fan" is the biggest load of bull$hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭rpurfield


    used to be able to count the games i missed at club and county level on one hand until i started the current job and the kids came along.see little or nothing of the club scene at the minute but something has to give because i need to pay the bills, like a lot of people.

    one thing i will say is if i was unlucky enough to be outta work i wouldnt be going to championship games.my ticket yesterday cost as much as the wicklow and two carlow games put together so i can see why crowds might dwindle.

    on another note i work in dublin and i know a lot of lads with either the parnell pass or a season ticket and they had no sweat when it came to september last year.then the lads that think a club is a thing ya play golf with were moaning because their source dried up for tickets and all ya hear is the gaa is this that and the other!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    Too many of Dublin's games are in Croker. Wouldn't do you any harm to see other parts of the country every now and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Just An Opinion


    [Quote=[-0-];79528263]Too many of Dublin's games are in Croker. Wouldn't do you any harm to see other parts of the country every now and again.[/Quote]

    This has seriously been done to death, there is a thread active on it not so far back (page or two at most) I can only refer you and your point to it, you will find all possible debates right there, most notably plenty of Dubs fans stating they're perfectly happy to travel for a championship game as it's been too long (06 v Longford) Away games in Thurles 01, Clones 03 on the road through the qualifiers in 04 were perfectly accepted and enjoyed by all of us who took to the road. As I said its a tired old statement always being brought up, but if you feel anyway aggrieved the Leinster Council is your gripe's source.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭milos


    My last post seems to have been misinterpreted
    "Attending championship in Croke park is no indication of being a true GAA fan." was not said by me...

    The point I was trying to make at the beginning was that there should be more 'Dublin Football Fans' actively showing support for their county team by flying the flag, or attending games if and when they can.

    And to all those who are part of the club scene I salute and admire you but does it mean that if I do not belong to a club I am not a true supporter???

    Also Flexicon where is the CONTRADICTION in my post that states that I follow Dublin Football?
    Formosa wrote: »
    How many club games do you go to?

    Attending championship in Croke Park is no indication of being a true GAA fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    What's teh deal with teh Dublin support anyway.

    Up to 2009 they could not play a Dublin game as part of a double header beacuse of the demand from the Dublin fans, and that's whne they had not won anything.
    Now they can only half fill the place.

    I know the resession is one factor, but I am suprised at the level of the drop off.

    Not just a Dublin phenomenon. Has happened big time in Ulster.

    Our Championship matches were regularly played in Clones because we were attracting crowds in the 20,000 - 30,000 bracket. Ulster Finals were played at Croke Park from 2004 - 2006, with attendances ranging from 50,000 - 67,000. We even had a McKenna Cup semi-final played at Casement on a freezing January sunday that attracted a crowd of 20,000! :)

    You will hear it said that Ulster Championship attendances are up this year compared to last year, but they are still very small in the context of the last decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    [-0-] wrote: »
    Too many of Dublin's games are in Croker. Wouldn't do you any harm to see other parts of the country every now and again.

    Have been to Galway, Kilkenny, Dungarvan, Tullamore, Portlaoise (twice) and will be in Ennis this Saturday.

    2500km travelling supporting the Dubs this year.

    That enough for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    [-0-] wrote: »
    Too many of Dublin's games are in Croker. Wouldn't do you any harm to see other parts of the country every now and again.

    This is a common misconception. There is more than just the senior football team's championship matches. Most of those are in Croke Park, mainly due to capacity considerations, not an unwillingness to travel. We also have minor teams and Under 21s and all of the Hurling grades. Dublin are playing in Ennis this Saturday. Having the game at 7pm will put off a lot of fans, but many will travel nevertheless. A 4pm throw-in would have been better, but those who set these things often don't think, as all counties know. During the league Dublin have games outside Croke Park (even some at our actual home ground: Parnell Park) and so fans get to travel around the country (and to Donnycarney). So despite the misconception, Dublin fans clock up a lot of travel during the year, just like any other county.

    One reason for this misconception is that fans of other counties only see Dublin fans in Croke Park, due to the fact that they don't go to league games against Dublin in their home grounds. If they did, they'd see plenty of Dublin fans. Sometimes seeing this thing about Dublin fans, you'd think that all non-Dubs believe that the entire population of Dublin lives just on Jones Road, the North Circular Road and Clonliffe Road, as we've frequently seen statements here like "all Dublin fans only have to travel for about 10 minutes to get to Croke Park." Going back to last Sunday, there are parts of Kildare and Meath nearer to Croke Park than parts of Dublin are, so even Dublin fans living in Dublin (and many travel from well outside it because - shock, horror - not all Dublin fans live in Dublin), had longer journeys than some from Kildare and Meath. Saying Dublin fans don't travel here in the GAA forum is about as ridiculous as someone saying it never rains in Ireland in the Weather forum.
    mouthinlad wrote:
    What do you want? A blue Peter badge?

    Don't be silly. Just because there is blue in it, it is not good enough for the Dublin colours. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭popebenny16


    wind up thread is winding.

    The OP reminds me of the type you get at turnstyles at dublin away matches saying that the price is cheaper than premiership football. Do they say that to supporters from other counties? He also forgets that a sizable amount of those who go to Old Trafford ect are not from dublin. head on down to Cork Airport any given Saturday, or climb abord the coach specials at 1am on a Wednesday morning out of Limerick and Galway to see the wum-ness of your point.

    The GAA population in Dublin is small. Tommy Carr did a report on it, which is gatherin dust in GAA land. It more or less the same size as all the other counties. Dublin has almost half the LoI clubs in the country, it has many Rugby clubs, and the Leinster Rugby team, and it has hundreds of thousands who just dont give a toss either way.

    Speaking as someone who regularly brings his kids to CP to see dublin play, I can tell you that whatever you make up for in the child ticket of €5 you instandly lose with the Hot-Dog and chips. Going to a double header, with two kids, is not cheap. Espicially wheh the GAA decides to leave almost a feckin hour between some matches.

    The Leinster Council tells Dublin to play all their football matches in CP because they need the revenue. Kildare and Meath played there last week. Maybe that should have been in Newbridge or whats left of Navan. That may satisfy the purists of this forum but it will see the GAA go bankrupt.

    The same argument, from a differnt angle, was made on twitter a few weeks back by a similarly enlightened person. Why was the Enthusiastic Congress on in CP and the hurling forced to play elsewhere.... The fact that the Munster Hurling Semi-final is never in CP did not occour to this chap, nor the fact that ourside of finals the Leinster Council doesnt use CP for Hurling either. As usual, internet people dont let facts get in the way of their pronouncements.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    wind up thread is winding.

    The OP reminds me of the type you get at turnstyles at dublin away matches saying that the price is cheaper than premiership football. Do they say that to supporters from other counties? He also forgets that a sizable amount of those who go to Old Trafford ect are not from dublin. head on down to Cork Airport any given Saturday, or climb abord the coach specials at 1am on a Wednesday morning out of Limerick and Galway to see the wum-ness of your point.

    The GAA population in Dublin is small. Tommy Carr did a report on it, which is gatherin dust in GAA land. It more or less the same size as all the other counties. Dublin has almost half the LoI clubs in the country, it has many Rugby clubs, and the Leinster Rugby team, and it has hundreds of thousands who just dont give a toss either way.

    Speaking as someone who regularly brings his kids to CP to see dublin play, I can tell you that whatever you make up for in the child ticket of €5 you instandly lose with the Hot-Dog and chips. Going to a double header, with two kids, is not cheap. Espicially wheh the GAA decides to leave almost a feckin hour between some matches.

    The Leinster Council tells Dublin to play all their football matches in CP because they need the revenue. Kildare and Meath played there last week. Maybe that should have been in Newbridge or whats left of Navan. That may satisfy the purists of this forum but it will see the GAA go bankrupt.

    The same argument, from a differnt angle, was made on twitter a few weeks back by a similarly enlightened person. Why was the Enthusiastic Congress on in CP and the hurling forced to play elsewhere.... The fact that the Munster Hurling Semi-final is never in CP did not occour to this chap, nor the fact that ourside of finals the Leinster Council doesnt use CP for Hurling either. As usual, internet people dont let facts get in the way of their pronouncements.

    in all honesty, that is rubbish. Dublin could easily fill croke park on their own if they wanted, that is well known. Take that as a general support of 100,000 on any given day if needs must, then that is more than the entire population of 13 counties. And I dont think its unrealistic to say Dublin footballers would generate a support of that amount of people. Dublin does indeed have serious competition for sports in the capital, but it also has a lot of GAA clubs and supporters. To try say it is comparable to most other counties is way off.

    Agree with some of your other points, but completley disagree that it has a similar GAA support to most other counties. Its nothing to be ashamed of or its not a bad thing. And its the reason that Croke park is designated to Dublin football games to try generate more money. But as crowds dwindle, it may be no harm to start using other grounds and get them full and generate a good atmosphere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    As the Pope has said there is a lot more to this. The Pope (the one in the above post, not the guy in Rome) is one of the many Dublin fans who does not live in Dublin, but frequently travels there, coming a longer distance than many of the fans of the opposing counties he goes to see play the Dubs in Croke Park. Look at his location specified under his username. He isn't even in the Pale, never mind Dublin.

    In other times when speaking about Dublin, we'd be told about how there are so many people from outside Dublin living in Dublin and that even Dublin people themselves are often the children of non-Dubs. So when counties from the extremities of Ireland are playing in Croke Park, many of their fans only have the short distance from their homes in Dublin to get to Croke Park. We also get the "half of Dublin lives in Wexford" (or add whatever other county you want in there) type of comments in other situations. Yet when it comes to this issue, which comes up frequently, suddenly every single Dublin fan lives in Dublin and all squished into the area that is 10 minutes away from that stadium. Sorry ladies and gentlemen, but it just ain't so! We travel from all sorts of distances to Croke Park, further than a lot of fans of other counties, and we travel to see our various teams play in all parts of Ireland. So the Dublin fans travel just as much as any other fans do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    bruschi wrote: »
    But as crowds dwindle, it may be no harm to start using other grounds and get them full and generate a good atmosphere.

    They started doing that for Dublin teams circa late 1880s, and have been doing it ever since, despite the misconceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I watched it at home on the telly, I roared "offside!" at the ref a few times and was outraged when the he blew up for full time a good 25 minutes early. :mad:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Flukey wrote: »
    They started doing that for Dublin teams circa late 1880s, and have been doing it ever since, despite the misconceptions.

    championship games, I think its pretty obvious what I was talking about.

    I dont know why ye are getting in such a fluster over all this, its a Leinster council and GAA issue, its not as if people are whinging that Dublin fans wont travel. Look at the support your hurlers have started bringing to games now. Even as close as 5 years or so ago Wexford played Dublin down in Nowlan park and there was damn all from Dublin there, but then look at the crowd that went ot Portlaoise 2 weeks ago. You cant say that the game aginst Louth had a good crowd or a good atmosphere at it. Early round Leinster games would be better off in provincial grounds, for all counties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    bruschi wrote: »
    in all honesty, that is rubbish. Dublin could easily fill croke park on their own if they wanted, that is well known. Take that as a general support of 100,000 on any given day if needs must, ...........

    No he's right .... there's probably around 15,000 or so core supporters for Dublin football and maybe 5,000 for the hurlers - these are the people who get tickets thru their club,season ticket or parnell pass, the intangible balance of the support come from the ticket resellers (tickets.ie etc) -The Carr report AFAIK tried to quantify those people who were directly involved in the GAA scene through their club affiliations either playing or membership, that figure was slightly over 120,000 (I think) - this would of course include country people with little love for Dublin :rolleyes: lol


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    No he's right .... there's probably around 15,000 or so core supporters for Dublin football and maybe 5,000 for the hurlers - these are the people who get tickets thru their club,season ticket or parnell pass, the intangible balance of the support come from the ticket resellers (tickets.ie etc) -The Carr report AFAIK tried to quantify those people who were directly involved in the GAA scene through their club affiliations either playing or membership, that figure was slightly over 120,000 (I think) - this would of course include country people with little love for Dublin :rolleyes: lol

    so there is a gaa population of over 120,000 in Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    bruschi wrote: »
    so there is a gaa population of over 120,000 in Dublin?

    I wouldn't swear to the figure bruschi - but I think if you audited the DCC for all the paid up member/senior player/juveniles/and the fella with the associate membership for cheap pints on a Saturday you'd have around that number - the underage which is something I'm involved in is flourishing - but they've yet to discover beer and the associate membership ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    bruschi wrote: »
    championship games, I think its pretty obvious what I was talking about.

    I dont know why ye are getting in such a fluster over all this, its a Leinster council and GAA issue, its not as if people are whinging that Dublin fans wont travel. Look at the support your hurlers have started bringing to games now. Even as close as 5 years or so ago Wexford played Dublin down in Nowlan park and there was damn all from Dublin there, but then look at the crowd that went ot Portlaoise 2 weeks ago. You cant say that the game aginst Louth had a good crowd or a good atmosphere at it. Early round Leinster games would be better off in provincial grounds, for all counties.

    You may have not said it, but it is a perennial thread here spouting rubbish like all Dublin matches are in Croke Park and Dublin fans never travel, and all Dublin fans only have to go a short distance and all the other kinds of related points we've seen in this thread. Those of us who have been in the GAA forum for a number of years know the threads that come up time and time again like the Dublin fans and Croke Park, new structure for the championship, prices of tickets, fans deserving tickets for the final and a whole host of other ones that are always here. Our responses are well rehearsed as we have to use them so often.

    You are right about the increasing fan base for the hurlers, and it is great to see. You are right about the setting of venues. Here goes another well rehearsed response: It is often the other counties themselves that want to play in Croke Park, especially when Dublin are the opponents. It usually (Louth's performance being a recent exception) brings the best out of teams and they raise their game, or at least try to. Every county has their own local rivals which they'll raise their game for, but all of the other 31 counties will raise it for Dublin, especially in Croke Park, not just the traditional Dublin rivals. There is a better atmosphere in a small full ground than in Croke Park with a larger crowd than the other ground, but still small in Croke Park itself. Croke Park had large sections closed last Sunday and the atmosphere was a bit dead for much of the Dublin v Wexford match, but the crowd that was there was still larger than the capacity of most county grounds. Thurles and a few others would have coped, but most wouldn't.

    A lot of Dublin fans would like to travel more, and unfortunately a lot don't come to the away league games which is the ideal opportunity to do so. Those that do, enjoy it. Most other grounds would not hold a moderate crowd by Dublin standards, and there are other practical issues like parking and accessibility which make it difficult too. So unfortunately things are not going to change much in that regard for Dublin's championship games, especially going through the front door route, and we'll all have to stay with Croke Park as the primary venue during the championship for the footballers.

    The hurlers will get to see more of the country for a while, though as I said in an earlier post, the 7pm throw-in for next Saturday is a bad time for Dublin fans. It would be after midnight for those returning to Dublin. Even for those that would go, they won't be able to bring as many kids as they normally do. I'd love to go, as I do go to some of the away games, and if it was an earlier throw-in I'd definitely go. A lot of Dublin fans will be of the same opinion about it. The powers that be have made a bad decision in fixing it for that time, but other factors influence them nowadays, like TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    I refuse to travel to any ground not serviced by train and an international airport - oh and pints in the ground - but seriously on the accessibility issue it's a big part of the venue planning ... O'Moore is about as good as it gets outside of Dublin in Leinster. I still remember abandoning the car and the 5 mile hike into Clones for the Derry game - oh yeah and the warmer upper was a junior hurling match Tyrone & Monaghan ... so if yiz want us to travel get an airport and jedward !


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