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    #62
    httpete
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭httpete


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    I don't think you understand what I've said at all and I really don't know how to more simply explain it to you at this stage without the use of finger puppets.

    One cannot presume that it is 'fairly easy' for them. They're a traditional Webdev firm, as far as we know, and to presume the transition from traditional to mobile Web development is 'fairly easy' ignores much of what has been pointed out to you.

    It should be 'fairly easy' for any decent webdev firm to transition to making mobile sites. Its not like we're talking transitioning from building websites to optimizing the scheduler in the linux kernel...we are talking about going from making websites that work well on a laptop pc monitor to a ones that work well on a smartphone display. If it is not fairly easy for a webdev firm to be able to do that competently well then they must be a half-arsed outfit.


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    #63
    httpete
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭httpete


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    Mobile sites are not the same as Web sites. I've been saying (and even written articles on) this for almost ten years. You may ultimately be drawing from the same content, but even beyond the bandwidth and capabilities issues people interact with mobile sites and apps in a completely different manner to traditional Web sites. In effect it should be treated as a completely new application.

    Well eh obviously, they have to be designed in a way that makes best use of the platform. It is not rocket science though. It should be easy for a professional website designer to make a mobile site or else they shouldn't be calling themselves professional designers.

    And I agree that mobile sites could be aptly described as stripped down versions of full sites.

    Case in point -
    http://www.paddypower.com/bet
    https://android.paddypower.mobi/#!/

    The mobile version is massively stripped down from the regular website.


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    #64
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    httpete wrote: »
    Well eh obviously, they have to be designed in a way that makes best use of the platform. It is not rocket science though. It should be easy for a professional website designer to make a mobile site or else they shouldn't be calling themselves professional designers.
    I've never suggested it is 'rocket science', only that it is a different medium and effectively a different site; user priorities and interaction changes, navigation becomes ruthlessly streamlined, functionality, unavailable to the traditional Web site, is employed. I've even seen the business model change in some cases.

    Very little of that is down to 'rocket science' - it's not even down to technology for the most part - it's more about how you approach, conceptualize and design the site from an IA and business perspective. Instead, if you see it as little more than a 'stripped down' version of the 'parent' site, then you'll end up with a bad mobile site - just like the one you cited.


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    #65
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    I've been in the business for just under 15 years, and developing for mobile for over 12.

    ...

    Mobile sites are not the same as Web sites. I've been saying (and even written articles on) this for almost ten years.

    So everything that you're saying goes back to your experience of WAP? Because to talk about mobile web these days are refer to WAP is nonsense. Like I said before, it's like comparing windows 95 with windows 7.

    I worked on a project with vodafone for their WAP channels around 7 years ago and it just can't be compared to mobile web today. The advancements in handsets and web technologies are vastly different.

    For a web company to develop a wap site in the past was a challenge, these days it's not so much when creating a mobile website. Any UX/UI designer worth their salt shouldn't have issues with it.


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    #66
    httpete
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭httpete


    smash wrote: »
    So everything that you're saying goes back to your experience of WAP? Because to talk about mobile web these days are refer to WAP is nonsense. Like I said before, it's like comparing windows 95 with windows 7.

    Just to add, Windows 95 is alot closer to Windows 7 than WAP is to current mobile websites. WAP was a joke.


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    #67
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    httpete wrote: »
    Just to add, Windows 95 is alot closer to Windows 7 than WAP is to current mobile websites. WAP was a joke.
    I think you're missing the point and getting too bogged down in the specific technology.

    Let me put it another way; do you browse on your phone in the same way you browse on your PC?


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