violence and woman.

In the media in the past few weeks there were a lot of stories of woman committing violent acts on other woman, usually random attacks after a night out...the stories range from a woman being attacked with a stanly knife to woman having her nose almost bitten off or stories of a woman almost kicked to death....This shocked me a lot much more so that if it had been men who committed the acts of violence why are we more shocked by violent women even though there are lost of cases of women being violent for example there were women guards in the concentration camps.

shopaholic01

I hate violence, but I think in a lot of cases women are much more vindictive than men.

Men tend to get into testosterone or alcohol fuelled fights, but rarely hold grudges afterwards.

With women it tends to be more personal.

Domestic violence tends to stem from insecurity or a need to dominate - I think this applies to both men and women.

sam34

mariaalice wrote: »

This shocked me a lot much more so that if it had been men who committed the acts of violence why are we more shocked by violent women .

are we or is it just you? it appears from your post above that you are generalising from your experience and assuming the majority feel the same.

christmas2012

the ripping of the earrrings off and leaving the ears torn,has been noted as something vicous scumbag females do,or using long nails to scrape the face,slapping,hair pulling and punching with big knuckle duster rings..

not a good trait to see a girl doing that(or a fella for that matter),its usually skangers who do this sort of thing,if i see skangers in a pub,i usually avoid altogether,youre best bet is to leave early before closing hours,and forget the chippy on the way back unless you arrive early before all the skangers get there - otherwise you get to see the full whack of the wild nightlife,something i would avoid by getting out at least 2 hours before hand just to make sure..

Every woman I mentioned it to was shocked as well ...I don't mean to generalize about all women maybe there are women who are not surprised by a woman going out with a Stanly knife and using it on another woman face or by the fact that a woman tried to kick a woman to death, the woman who were attacked did not know their attackers beforehand so it was an attack on complete strangers.

christmas2012

A lot of it aswell is random attacks over recent years,its all drug and drink related violence,they just start on you for no reason last thing you do is make eyes with a crazy lunatic who is just hell bent on looking for a row or just straight infor an altercation/assault.

Rasheed

sam34 wrote: »

are we or is it just you? it appears from your post above that you are generalising from your experience and assuming the majority feel the same.

Are you saying you are not shocked by it? I can't understand it personally and I don't know any woman or man that isn't shocked by it.

It's deplorable. There is something deeply unsettling seeing two women fighting, much more then men.

As another poster said, women are much more vindictive and when riled, seem more savage.

Princess Peach

sam34 wrote: »

are we or is it just you? it appears from your post above that you are generalising from your experience and assuming the majority feel the same.

I agree with this. Any such kind of behavior disgusts me, regardless of the genders of those involved. Can't say I'm "more" shocked when it's a woman.

wonderfulname

Testosterone or alcohol fuelled fights... One and the same really, given that alcohol is a testosterone stimulant, one which women are affected greater by then men, hence you do see them having the same fights, if you look in the wrong places...

I'm not remotely shocked by women being violent, why should I be? That's kind of like being shocked by a female CEO because the traits of a business leader are 'masculine', welcome to 2012, being a woman doesn't automatically mean being a lady.

christmas2012

sorry for going a bit askew of the thread here but here is ..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79489301 a thread i posted recently its about the girl who had half her nose ripped off -dreadful assault,i would be intersested to know what anybody makes of the whole thing ,and if you have been part of an assault yourself as a victim or a perpetrator,and what you make of the outcomes in the justice system - on a personal level..

Fluorescence

christmas2012 wrote: »

sorry for going a bit askew of the thread here but here is ..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79489301 a thread i posted recently its about the girl who had half her nose ripped off -dreadful assault,i would be intersested to know what anybody makes of the whole thing ,and if you have been part of an assault yourself as a victim or a perpetrator,and what you make of the outcomes in the justice system - on a personal level..

You could try telling us what you think first

christmas2012

i think the justice system in ireland is too lenient,although i would not advocate the death penalty,i dont think assault is taken seriously,and prison is just too good for them,i would like to see them work for absoloutely no money,they even have bank accounts in prison..

it undermines what the gards do when they catch these perpetrators,only for them to get off on suspended sentences,whats needed is a strong detterent,so they think twice before committing such an offence for a bit of fun or a 'laugh' or a buzz or whatever..

Ive been to court as a witness to an assault some years back,and the amount of people who get fcuk all of a sentence because they plead guilty,or in some cases dont even get a month is ridiculous,i seen a whole queue of them once..

Its my white, middle age, middle class, background showing me up:D

I think saying its just skngers or if you look in the wrong place, is a gross over simplification of the phenomenon of violent woman.

wonderfulname

Not really, white, middle class, middle aged men are less likely to start a fist fight outside a club as well, it's a social issue, not a gender one.

sam34

Rasheed wrote: »

Are you saying you are not shocked by it? I can't understand it personally and I don't know any woman or man that isn't shocked by it.

It's deplorable. There is something deeply unsettling seeing two women fighting, much more then men.

As another poster said, women are much more vindictive and when riled, seem more savage.

I'm not any more shocked than I would be if this had been carried out by a man. I've no idea why you think it's worse to see women fighting rather than men.

Madam_X

It seems there is something in the psyche though that causes people to be more shocked at violence by women - it's not right, it's sexist, but it stems from millennia of established norms: men as fighters in wars, women as passive and gentle/nurturing.

But either gender is of course capable of violence.

newport2

Onixx wrote: »

It seems there is something in the psyche though that causes people to be more shocked at violence by women - it's not right, it's sexist, but it stems from millennia of established norms: men as fighters in wars, women as passive and gentle/nurturing.

But either gender is of course capable of violence.

In the same way that we a lot of people are more shocked by violence against women. My wife wouldn't flinch seeing a woman in a film putting a gun to a man's head and pulling the trigger, yet she jumps about a foot in the air if a woman is slapped by a man on screen.

Stheno

Onixx wrote: »

It seems there is something in the psyche though that causes people to be more shocked at violence by women - it's not right, it's sexist, but it stems from millennia of established norms: men as fighters in wars, women as passive and gentle/nurturing.

But either gender is of course capable of violence.

newport2 wrote: »

In the same way that we a lot of people are more shocked by violence against women. My wife wouldn't flinch seeing a woman in a film putting a gun to a man's head and pulling the trigger, yet she jumps about a foot in the air if a woman is slapped by a man on screen.

I used play rugby which is legal assault in a way

In a rage I'd possibly hurt someone badly, I've a bad temper and the last time I lost it over 15 years ago, I punched a giant hole in a wall.

Either gender is capable of it