Kingston 128gb SSD from dabs.ie €76.28

iggy

This seems extremely cheap for a 128gb ssd.

Anyone know if this would be up to Samsung 830 level.

http://www.dabs.ie/products/kingston-128gb-ssdnow-v200-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-7V53.html?utm_source=ie+email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email290612&utm_content=e800

Edit- delivery €7.50
I think the Samsung 830 had free delivery for €99 ,so this one works out about €83 delivered

Basq

In-depth review here.. seems decent alright!

stimpson

I've the V100 version in my MacBook (3gb/sec). Cracking drive. Highly recommended for a laptop.

marcbrophy

I got the email from dabs myself!
Doubt it'll still be at that price when money clears to my credit card on Monday or Tuesday.
Pity they don't accept laser!!!

LiamKK1982

Could anyone tell me if this would work ok in a ps3 and would it make any difference to loading times or general performance

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-can-ssd-upgrades-boost-ps3-performance

zom

iggy wrote: »

I think the Samsung 830 had free delivery for €99 ,so this one works out about €83 delivered

Samsung drive being twice faster?

silvine

Are you talking about this one: http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-128gb-830-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--ssd-basic-kit-819N.html?q=Samsung%20830&src=16

Which is the better buy?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the 830's and the crucial m4's are to the best of my knowledge the preferred ones to get unless you're looking to spend lots and lots of money

Monotype

Basq wrote: »

In-depth review here.. seems decent alright!

That's not the same drive...

Also there's a V200 and a V+ 200, which turns in most results . This drive had problems initially but it was fixed in recent firmware. This seems like a reasonable review but I haven't read it yet:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6488&review=kingston+ssdnow+v200+ssd+7mm

marcbrophy

Took the plunge anyway, can't be that bad sure!

kenyard

been looking at this also. figured there would be comments on it here so dropped in to see reviews... would like to hear from someone about it before getting it...

i guess its cheap because they probably dont work out of the box as expected and need the firmware update.
All Kingston SSDNow V200 drives now shipping from the factory have the new firmware in place. Current owners with the old V200 drives will be able to download the new firmware update from the Kingston support website.

marcbrophy

kenyard wrote: »

been looking at this also. figured there would be comments on it here so dropped in to see reviews... would like to hear from someone about it before getting it...

i guess its cheap because they probably dont work out of the box as expected and need the firmware update.
All Kingston SSDNow V200 drives now shipping from the factory have the new firmware in place. Current owners with the old V200 drives will be able to download the new firmware update from the Kingston support website.

I looked into the situation, and after reading the review and seeing that an f/w update could fix any performance issues, I figured why not? for 83 bucks inc delivery it's pretty cheap for an SSD

Dirk_digbee

marcbrophy wrote: »

I looked into the situation, and after reading the review and seeing that an f/w update could fix any performance issues, I figured why not? for 83 bucks inc delivery it's pretty cheap for an SSD [IMG]file:///C:%5CUsers%5CDale%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_image001.gif[/IMG]

Same as that, I've been thinking of biting the SSD bullet for a while now and €83 aint too bad imo.

On a side note, anyone have any experience with disc imagers?

Monotype

I wouldn't use disc imaging software going from HDD -> SSD. Windows sets itself up differently when installing to SSD. You'd be much better off with a complete reinstall, while troublesome it will pay off in the long run.

Dirk_digbee

Would I get away with in the short term?

I was thinking of upgrading from Vista to either Win 7 or 8 (when it’s released) so I really didn’t want to reset my system only to have to do it all over again in a few months.

Apologies for getting away from the thread.

marcbrophy

Dirk_digbee wrote: »

Same as that, I've been thinking of biting the SSD bullet for a while now and €83 aint too bad imo.

On a side note, anyone have any experience with disc imagers?

Yeah, i think €83 is reasonable enough for my first go at an SSD.
Shipped from dabs this afternoon, so i'll hopefully get in by the end of the week!

Monotype wrote: »

I wouldn't use disc imaging software going from HDD -> SSD. Windows sets itself up differently when installing to SSD. You'd be much better off with a complete reinstall, while troublesome it will pay off in the long run.

That's a fair point!
My computer's had this windows set up now for coming on 18 months, so is 'due' a fresh install!

Monotype

Dirk_digbee wrote: »

Would I get away with in the short term?

I was thinking of upgrading from Vista to either Win 7 or 8 (when it’s released) so I really didn’t want to reset my system only to have to do it all over again in a few months.

Apologies for getting away from the thread.

It would probably work, of course. But turn off automatic disk de-fragmentation. Vista doesn't make as good use of SSDs as Windows 7 anyway. You could always install a Windows 7 trial and run it for 120 days without a license, if you didn't want to buy immediately. Windows 8 doesn't look really spectacular. I think the most interesting thing is really only a better copy system (for copying files).
However, if you're not in a hurry, SSDs are probably not going to climb up a lot in that amount of time unless there's a disaster at the factories. We might even see better drives at this price in a few months.

kenyard

apparently when you run that thing on windows 7(and i assume 8)- windows experience index, it recognises you have a ssd and turns off defrag etc...

although it is pretty much recommended everywhere not to clone a hdd to ssd alright

is this compatible with laptops btw? would almost like one for my lappy as i dont often have much space used on it anyway what with external drives

Monotype

kenyard wrote: »

is this compatible with laptops btw? would almost like one for my lappy as i dont often have much space used on it anyway what with external drives

Yes. It is the standard laptop size. Some ultra books will use the slim 7mm SSDs.

marcbrophy

Finally got this today! Took 8 days to get to me :mad:

Did anyone else go for this BA, or was I the only eejit? :pac:

keithclancy

Monotype wrote: »

I wouldn't use disc imaging software going from HDD -> SSD. Windows sets itself up differently when installing to SSD. You'd be much better off with a complete reinstall, while troublesome it will pay off in the long run.

Works grand, the Kingston drive I got came with Acronis TrueImage, took about 15 minutes to image everything over.

You just need to make sure TRIM is enabled and its fine.

Database performance on my Mediaportal installation is around 5 times faster than on a standard HDD.

Dothehustle

marcbrophy wrote: »

Finally got this today! Took 8 days to get to me :mad:

Did anyone else go for this BA, or was I the only eejit? :pac:

nope me too
ordered it on the 2nd and got a text saying it has arrived
is there any firmware upgrade to do
much faster ??

marcbrophy

Dothehustle wrote: »

nope me too
ordered it on the 2nd and got a text saying it has arrived
is there any firmware upgrade to do
much faster ??

Just got it here on my desk in work, so not sure about the firmware!
It better be faster, or else it will be going straight back to dabs! :pac:

kenyard

the firmware upgrade is to stop it getting slower over time.. also apparently increases transfer rates also..
goodluck with them
i cant be bothered reinstalling everything on my laptop is the only reason im not getting one.. will wait till this burns out or im buying a new one methinks!

marcbrophy

kenyard wrote: »

the firmware upgrade is to stop it getting slower over time.. also apparently increases transfer rates also..
goodluck with them
i cant be bothered reinstalling everything on my laptop is the only reason im not getting one.. will wait till this burns out or im buying a new one methinks!

Yeah, I'm thinking about getting one of those 2nd drive caddy's that you put in your optical drive bay, rather than having to get into the guts of this dell inspiron! I can change the boot priority in the bios then, and I'll be laughing :pac:

Ryaner

I've done multiple systems from HD to SSD without much issues. You generally won't notice the speed differences unless you got testing for them, and even then not always.

The other thing I got from most people I stuck on SSDs was that you don't notice the speed differences until you use a computer without one, then it seems like the dark ages again. All those tiny pauses that you used to ignore just disappear with an ssd.

For reliability, I've one of the older SSDNow drives and it is still going strong 18 months after. It is in a gaming machine so not overly taxed. SSDs do fail in strange ways however but I've yet to see data corruption from one like on a HD. They either work or don't work, never anything inbetween strangely.

marcbrophy

Ryaner wrote: »

I've done multiple systems from HD to SSD without much issues. You generally won't notice the speed differences unless you got testing for them, and even then not always.

The other thing I got from most people I stuck on SSDs was that you don't notice the speed differences until you use a computer without one, then it seems like the dark ages again. All those tiny pauses that you used to ignore just disappear with an ssd.

For reliability, I've one of the older SSDNow drives and it is still going strong 18 months after. It is in a gaming machine so not overly taxed. SSDs do fail in strange ways however but I've yet to see data corruption from one like on a HD. They either work or don't work, never anything inbetween strangely.

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by the highlighted part?

Monotype

As in you probably wouldn't notice the difference going from 400MB/s to 300MB/s. Most users would see any difference. You'd need to be a heavy user or to test out the speeds via benchmark tools or copy tests. They're more responsive than HDDs even when badly set up.

Ryaner

Monotype wrote: »

As in you probably wouldn't notice the difference going from 400MB/s to 300MB/s. Most users would see any difference. You'd need to be a heavy user or to test out the speeds via benchmark tools or copy tests. They're more responsive than HDDs even when badly set up.

Exactly. I was putting SSDs into machines before TRIM was available in windows, and even under heavy write load the users didn't notice the slowdown after months of use.
It is very rare that you actually need high sustained throughput during normal usage, even file copying normally has other bottlenecks like the network. Its the random io access that makes SSDs what they are for users, and even a crappy one (the original 6 months worth of drives excluded) will out perform any mechanical HD.

kenyard

whats max transfer speed with usb 3 (which i dont have, just curious)?
i guess that a normal HDD can handle the speeds no hassle? or would having a ssd be of benefit?

only reason to switch to a ssd for me would be boot times and i dont think thats worth 70 euro to me as of yet when it would only cut times in half or whatever

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it's not just boot times it's using the computer from minute to minute

I load windows, I see the desktop and that's it. everything can be used. I dont have to sit here staring at the background for 2-3 minutes before I can open my browser. I see desktop, I click browsedr it opens instantly. same for winamp, steam or any other program/game I care to run.

even just general useage is so improved. All those little 2-3 second delays whenever you tried to do anything, open explorer, open a file, check the size of a folder.. it's all just about instant now. An SSD doesn't neccesarily make a huge difference for everyone but it does make hundreds/thousands of little differences that make just using a computer such a more pleasant experience.

marcbrophy

Ah, I see what you're saying now, was a bit tired reading the post last night!

Well, my machine is not a glorified facebook surfer, so I will certainly notice the difference once I get it going :pac:

I never wanted to get a laptop over a perceived drop in performance from a desktop. But when I saw a reasonable Win 7 machine with similar spec to my ageing Win Vista desktop I went for it. Still prefer my desktop though

tok9

Damn it.. I've been questioning whether to get it or not and when i decide to it's discontinued!

That'll teach me.

eamonnq

http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-128gb-830-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-desktop-kit---free-norton-ghost-15-7S2J.html?utm_source=ie+email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email100712&utm_content=e800

+ delivery charge.

marcbrophy

Dothehustle wrote: »

nope me too
ordered it on the 2nd and got a text saying it has arrived
is there any firmware upgrade to do
much faster ??

Just to update you, in case you haven't found out yourself.
The firmware that came on my ssd, was the latest f/w available from Kingston. I tried to run the f/w upgrade program, but it didn't need an update, which is good news.

I still haven't got a hard drive caddy for my laptop, but I put this drive into the desktop over the weekend, and loaded up Windows 8. It ran very fast indeed for a machine bought in 2007. Booting was just over 10 seconds, shutting down was about 3 or 4 and just an overall feeling of 'faster'!! :pac:

tok9

eamonnq wrote: »

http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-128gb-830-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-desktop-kit---free-norton-ghost-15-7S2J.html?utm_source=ie+email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email100712&utm_content=e800

+ delivery charge.

it's 107 euro before delivery now.

eamonnq

tok9 wrote: »

it's 107 euro before delivery now.

Coming up at 81.99 for me!!

Had an issue with this yesterday, but if you search SAMSUNG SSD on their site you should see it at the 81.99 price.

tok9

eamonnq wrote: »

Coming up at 81.99 for me!!

Had an issue with this yesterday, but if you search SAMSUNG SSD on their site you should see it at the 81.99 price.

Tried that and still no good. Thanks anyway... I still bought it.

eamonnq

http://www.dabs.ie/products/crucial-256gb-m4-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-7GL2.html?src=2

159 for 256gb !!!

I should have waited........maybe I could use another one!!!


Apparently you may have to be signed up to dabs to see the 'special prices'.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79793407&postcount=866

Discussion there also

tok9

eamonnq wrote: »

http://www.dabs.ie/products/crucial-256gb-m4-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-7GL2.html?src=2

159 for 256gb !!!

I should have waited........maybe I could use another one!!!


Apparently you may have to be signed up to dabs to see the 'special prices'.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79793407&postcount=866

Discussion there also

Was just about to say it, because it's 202 euro on mine.

Monotype

Their VIP deals have been reflected through price decreases in the following weeks in the past. They're probably doing it this way so that they're not completely cleared of stock in one swoop.

I am signed up with dabs, but did not receive any particular "VIP" email.
Any idea, how I could get the Samsung for that price?
I mean, 82 EUR compared to 107 is quite a difference, not mentioning the 256GB for 159..

Thanks lads!

Fnz

Deleted User wrote: »

I am signed up with dabs, but did not receive any particular "VIP" email.
Any idea, how I could get the Samsung for that price?

Try logging in to dabs then, from a dabs newsletter/email, click through via any offer.

scorn

I've signed in - I can also only see the higher prices... odd...

eamonnq

Stock is depleting rapidly now, am tempted to get another 1 or the 256gb for 159

marcbrophy

eamonnq wrote: »

Stock is depleting rapidly now, am tempted to get another 1 or the 256gb for 159

You might as well! You appear to be the only one who can!! :pac:

eamonnq

marcbrophy wrote: »

You might as well! You appear to be the only one who can!! :pac:

Few lads over here as well http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055214991&page=51

Something else is after catching my eye now though............

marcbrophy

eamonnq wrote: »

Few lads over here as well http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055214991&page=51

Something else is after catching my eye now though............

A cheaper 256?

eamonnq

marcbrophy wrote: »

A cheaper 256?

No...................this:

http://www.dabs.ie/products/zyxel-2tb--1-x-2tb--nsa310-powernas-1-2ghz-1-bay-network-attached-storage-7TLR.html?src=2

marcbrophy

eamonnq wrote: »

No...................this:

http://www.dabs.ie/products/zyxel-2tb--1-x-2tb--nsa310-powernas-1-2ghz-1-bay-network-attached-storage-7TLR.html?src=2

Never really had the need for a NAS, but that looks quite good!