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E-voting machines sold for €70,000

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    #2
    galwayrush
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    Guess we 'took a hit on them '


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    #3
    mikemac1
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    Shame to recycle them

    Put them in Irish pubs around the world, a real symbol of a certain time


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    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    the people who came up with the idea should have to foot the bill to the taxpayers - anyway good riddance to bad rubbish,its a pity it didnt work out as e voting could have been something if it was implemented properly..


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    admiralofthefleet
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Shame to recycle them

    Put them in Irish pubs around the world, a real symbol of a certain time

    yeah turn them into fruitys


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    BEASTERLY
    Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Shame considering nothing was wrong with them. The teachers and county council workers who kicked up about not getting their easy money for counting votes are to blame! Never mind the €55m lost on the machines, how much money has been payed in wages for vote counters since the scheme was scrapped?


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    mike65
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    There will be a bunch of warehouse owners crying into their beer tonight


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    GetWithIt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    mike65 wrote: »
    There will be a bunch of warehouse owners crying into their beer tonight
    Unlikely. Many were on 25 year contracts which would still have to be honored. They've just got their man sheds back and will still be paid. Result.

    Also, the machines had fundamental flaws. Good riddance.


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    telekon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Fianna Fail's greatest success sadly comes to an end...:(


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    admiralofthefleet
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    telekon wrote: »
    Fianna Fail's greatest success sadly comes to an end...:(

    id say martin cullen choked on his swan tonight


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    shopaholic01
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    galwayrush wrote: »
    Guess we 'took a hit on them '

    More of a 'soft landing' surely?


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    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    id say martin cullen choked on his swan tonight

    I'd say martin cullen couldn't give a flying ****.
    He lives in Florida now, spends his days playing golf and guess who's paying......:mad:


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    downwithpeace
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭downwithpeace


    Great deal for a dictator, everyone can trust electronic voting.


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    byhookorbycrook
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    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Shame considering nothing was wrong with them. The teachers and county council workers who kicked up about not getting their easy money for counting votes are to blame! Never mind the €55m lost on the machines, how much money has been payed in wages for vote counters since the scheme was scrapped?
    In early with the groundless public sector bashing, I see. But please, don't let facts get in the way.


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    senorwipesalot
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    downwithpeace wrote: »
    Great deal for a dictator, everyone can trust electronic voting.
    Good idea,surely they can find a buyer in Eastern Europe or the Middle East.


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    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    In early with the groundless public sector bashing, I see. But please, don't let facts get in the way.

    It's all about the PS, isn't it.
    Persecuted ya's are, persecuted!


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    BEASTERLY
    Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    In early with the groundless public sector bashing, I see. But please, don't let facts get in the way.

    What part of the public sector are you in? Do you feel guilty getting €700 of taxpayers money for one weekend of counting votes?


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    mike65
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    Cullen of course was merely carrying on the policy of......Noel Dempsey whatever he is doing these days.


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    the groutch
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    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    yeah turn them into fruitys

    yeah, Dr Quirkey would have paid at least double what they got


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    CarrickMcJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    So thats it, €55 million worth of machines sold for 70k all at the stroke of a peann luaidhe.


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    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    CarrickMcJoe wrote: »
    So thats it, €55 million worth of machines sold for 70k all at the stroke of a peann luaidhe.

    Eh, I think we're paying €70k to have them scrapped.....


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    byhookorbycrook
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    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    What part of the public sector are you in? Do you feel guilty getting €700 of taxpayers money for one weekend of counting votes?
    I don't count votes, perhaps you could apply to do so?
    How do you make out the it was the vote counters that objected to the scrappage of the discredited machines-as I said, don't let facts get in your blinkered way.



    "The government agreed to buy the machines for €50 million nine years ago after they were piloted in a number of constituencies in the 2002 general election and in the Nice referendum.

    Since then the bill to taxpayers for the machines has risen to €54.7 million in purchase and storage costs.

    Plans to use them nationally in the 2004 European and local elections were abandoned amid controversy over the system’s transparency and whether it was open to manipulation."

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1229/1224309592118.html

    No mention of public secector employees. Back your statement up.


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    donalg1
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    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    In early with the groundless public sector bashing, I see. But please, don't let facts get in the way.

    What part of the public sector are you in? Do you feel guilty getting €700 of taxpayers money for one weekend of counting votes?

    Why didnt you do the count? Last I heard people on social welfare are given preference over the employed when applying for counts...


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    bop1977
    Registered Users Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭bop1977


    Thankfully we got 70k for these. Big phil hogan ( w**ker) expected to have to pay somebody to recycle them. So it's really a cost saving everyone.


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    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    bop1977 wrote: »
    Thankfully we got 70k for these. Big phil hogan ( w**ker) expected to have to pay somebody to recycle them. So it's really a cost saving everyone.

    He could have cut the plugs and leads off them and got nearly the same for the scrap copper AFAIK. That lads an epic fruit loop.


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    donegal_road
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    mike65 wrote: »
    There will be a bunch of warehouse owners crying into their beer tonight

    in Mallorca


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    RUCKING FETARD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭RUCKING FETARD


    mike65 wrote: »
    There will be a bunch of warehouse owners crying into their beer tonight
    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/06/15/00282.asp


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    retroactive
    Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭retroactive


    never forget how a Fianna Fail led government lead us from a Celtic Tiger economy into a property bubble founded on corruption and eventually brought this nation to its knees. Its an affront to sensibility and justice that these people have pensions and are not rotting in prison. . . €55 Million.. I hope Martin Cullen gets struck by lightning while on his precious Florida golf course.


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    Borderfox
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    I would be happy enough to help the lightning on its way by acosting him with a 5 iron first. Hate to think he would only be injured. :-)
    retroactive wrote: »
    never forget how a Fianna Fail led government lead us from a Celtic Tiger economy into a property bubble founded on corruption and eventually brought this nation to its knees. Its an affront to sensibility and justice that these people have pensions and are not rotting in prison. . . €55 Million.. I hope Martin Cullen gets struck by lightning while on his precious Florida golf course.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Shame considering nothing was wrong with them.
    Oh boy.

    anyone with physical access can reprogram them
    anyone with a scanner and computer can probably detect remotely which way a vote was cast


    when you remember that the government of the day can set the ground rules for tribunals into corruption the temptation to nudge key marginals may be too much


    "They have now been put up for sale and tender over the last few months and we have reached agreement with a company called KMK Metals Recycling Ltd Co. Offaly, for the purchase of those machines for recycling and reuse to the value of €70,000".
    reuse, so maybe they will be appearing in a dictatorship Arab spring country near you soon


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    GetWithIt wrote: »
    Unlikely. Many were on 25 year contracts which would still have to be honored.
    Please tell me you are joking :eek:


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