Motors Meet - Constructive Feedback required

TestTransmission

Motors meet due the 14th of July.The past 2 have had little no interest/turnout.

Should we go ahead?
Any ideas/thoughts on how to get some more interest?
Busy time of year for everyone?

Portlaoise has always worked well as it's central and pretty fair for everyone to get to, too much in having a meet once a month?

Go...

Voodoomelon

That was my first thought, too many and the novelty wears off. Maybe once every 6-8 weeks would get a better turnout. Personally i'd love if it was Sundays, but Saturdays seems to get the better crowds for some reason.

Our man in Havana

Maybe every 2-3 months would be better?

mickdw

Portlaoise is just about the worst town in Ireland to get to from the north west.

ShadowHearth

Well just a few things:

* Portlaoise is a good central location.

* there should maybe 2-3 meets per year. It will be bigger an people will be able to plan them better in advance.

* date has to be picked very very carefully. It has to be checked very carefully, last time it was a huge fail, because it was on fathers day and you had a soccer match too.

* a great idea for meet is a family BBQ type event. It means that motorist can take their other halfs and kids. There are some parks and special places for that. Catering might be organised and in the world of PayPal it's easy to sort out some deposit etc.

*like any proper meet and event it needs a person responsible for it. Someone who will be a main man, the big cheese, who will organise it and look after it. Just to say: let's meet in x at y hour and wish the best won't work.

Voodoomelon

BBQ is a good idea for summer months, lash a few marques together and fire them up! Portlaoise is a bitch to get too alright, but probably the fairest.

Eric Cartman

saturdays seem to work best, but s was said above, if theres football or rugby on then you can pretty much forget about a meet. Having them near the start of the month might help more with payday being closer, the last week of a month theres no way I could afford to attend a meet.

_Kaiser_

Eric Cartman wrote: »

saturdays seem to work best, but s was said above, if theres football or rugby on then you can pretty much forget about a meet. Having them near the start of the month might help more with payday being closer, the last week of a month theres no way I could afford to attend a meet.

Not just me who's broke this week then - oddly I feel better!
Agree with what's been said. Once a month is too much I'd say especially given the cost of diesel/petrol as a factor.

Also depends on your age group.. once you're counting people with kids and wives they often need "permission" for these things

I'd say 2/3 times a year would be a good idea with plenty of advance notice and you'd get a better turn out (basing this on my own experience of trying to arrange weekends with the lads now that we're all settled/responsible and living all over the place)

Oh, and maybe some think turning up in their "boring every day" car would stick out badly among some of the impressive metal that a lot of guys here seem to have?

Northern Monkey

I personally think it is down to the demographic of users. Motors is a very busy section, but there is probably only a core of 50 (at a guess) or so users who would post in the forum frequently and the rest just post when they are looking for information. A comparison would be the octane cars and coffee, who meet monthly. I would consider it an enthusiast site (i.e. the majority of users think of their car as more than just a way of getting from A to and they would normally have a good turnout every time.

conzy

The Midway meet got a bit samey, Its a great location but its a bit boring now.

I think a big meet with a BBQ / dinner / night away is needed to get the big crowd. BMW Driver is a much smaller community and they seem to pull a huge crowd for their two annual meets.

But ive missed the last meet or two so will probably go to the bog standard midway meet if it goes ahead!

What if we organised some stuff? Like some of our resident photographers could do the rounds and get nice shots of all the cars. We could also try and organise a proper dinner in the hotel instead of people going into o'briens in dribs and drabs because the meet seems to go astray at this point usually

I dunno!

challengemaster

TestTransmission wrote: »

Motors meet due the 14th of July.The past 2 have had little no interest/turnout.

Should we go ahead?
Any ideas/thoughts on how to get some more interest?
Busy time of year for everyone?

Portlaoise has always worked well as it's central and pretty fair for everyone to get to, too much in having a meet once a month?

Go...

I think ye need to look at why the last 2 had such little turnout and use that to plan the future ones.

Every month is good but might be too frequent for a lot of people, then again, every 3 months is the other end of the scale where it's not frequent enough, and certainly in summer months just wastes any chance of good weather there might be in that 3 month period.

mickdw wrote: »

Portlaoise is just about the worst town in Ireland to get to from the north west.

You can't base location on one/few people, that there's no guarantee they'll even turn up, it's based on where is big enough and accessible enough by a large portion of the people that attend.

It's not like everyone lives in portlaoise, and in fairness it's not based in Dublin which is the norm for most things like this. The only alternative I can think of is Athlone, which is the centre of the country but again, it doesn't suit everyone and there's a cars & coffee there every 3rd Sunday of the month.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

* there should maybe 2-3 meets per year. It will be bigger an people will be able to plan them better in advance.

Other things come up, the more meets there are the better chance people have of getting to them. 2-3 a year isn't much at all, and anything can come up (weddings, funerals, holidays, work) and I don't think anyone would attend a meet over those.

* date has to be picked very very carefully. It has to be checked very carefully, last time it was a huge fail, because it was on fathers day and you had a soccer match too.

This I do agree with. But there's a flip side to that, there will ALWAYS be something else on.

*like any proper meet and event it needs a person responsible for it. Someone who will be a main man, the big cheese, who will organise it and look after it. Just to say: let's meet in x at y hour and wish the best won't work.

This is also true, to an extent. It's not an "event" as such, it is just a meeting of like minded (on some things) people and having a chat about cars, much like Cars and Coffee. It's not like an E30 owners meet, that has that level of planning behind it. People are free to come and go at any time, and there's no real commitment to it, there's the difference.

There's also not much reward, so fair play to the guys who have been organizing it thus far.

Voodoomelon wrote: »

BBQ is a good idea for summer months, lash a few marques together and fire them up! Portlaoise is a bitch to get too alright, but probably the fairest.

BBQ is a great idea for summer, but this needs actual planning put in and definite numbers for turnout, arranging space with the area we're using, and a whole lot else.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

saturdays seem to work best, but s was said above, if theres football or rugby on then you can pretty much forget about a meet. Having them near the start of the month might help more with payday being closer, the last week of a month theres no way I could afford to attend a meet.

IMO I think saturdays seem to work best because there's less likelihood people are hungover. Saturday night everyone likes a few jars and most aren't fit for driving, or couldn't be arsed getting up at X'o clock in the morning with a hangover to drive to the meet.

The other thing that's a factor is the weather, but it's not one that can be helped really. I don't think (apart from Marlow) that anyone can deny looking out at miserable rain and thinking "Fook that I'm not driving for X long to stand in that all day".

MugMugs

Sorry but stuff your central locations. Midways a hole and over priced. We are motoring fanatics. Well at least Ye all are, I'm just nosey. Go to each province Munster in winter, Leinster in Spring etc and go go karting and eat greasy burgers afterwards etc.... Standing in a car park frankly isn't very exciting.

Bigus

I went to one and it was good to put some names to faces.

However I thought it was a missed opportunity and lacked focus.

I'd draw an analogy of going to a business meeting or committee meeting without an agenda, this results in lots of hanging around ,shy people getting left out , and awkward silences, and generally not the best use of time or enthusiasm .

These motors meets can be potentially good but each one needs a different HOOK.
There's lots of free motoring events and these could be the basis/ excuse for a meet.
There also could be family friendly meets at various events.

Free events could be auto testing

http://www.tdcireland.com/phpBB2/

Various rally stages throughout Ireland

A motors treasure hunt.

A sponsored demo of some new car or equipment .

A visit to a workshop or body shop with demos.

A test or launch of something for petrol heads.

An amateur economy run

A test of how fast you can change a wheel on your own car

A practical joke on a large dealership, or the opposite an invitation to try out say the new 1.0 ltr focus. En masse.

Put your thinking caps on lads there is potentially loads of free stuff to do that's enjoyable and constructive and of commercial value to suppliers.

I'll throw in 50 euro sponsorship as a prize for a suitable event/ test/ legal dare winner ,subject to pre approval.

sogood

I agree with the last poster re; rotating meets around the four (or three) provinces. Athlone or Portlaoise would suit me, but I'd be happy to travel if it was worthwhile. What about tying a meet in with a local event/festival/boot sale etc. Something for all the family and a bit of a distraction too? PS The tourist board publishes a list of all the forthcoming events, festivals etc. for the year ahead.

Jimbob 83

If i get my new car i might try and book it off work as my working week is wed/thurs/fri/sat/sun

Voodoomelon

MugMugs wrote: »

Sorry but stuff your central locations. Midways a hole and over priced. We are motoring fanatics. Well at least Ye all are, I'm just nosey. Go to each province Munster in winter, Leinster in Spring etc and go go karting and eat greasy burgers afterwards etc.... Standing in a car park frankly isn't very exciting.

Agree with a lot of this. Whilst its good to go the first time and put names to faces and have some banter, see some of the cars you've only seen in pictures, it takes a lot of will power to drag yourself down again to stand, as MM says in a car park. For both of us, we have to drive 110 miles for what may be a low turnout/bad weather, i'm sure its much the same for members coming from Cork/Kerry/Sligo/Clare, not to mention the north.

If it was to head down for a go kart championship/BBQ/night on the piss i'd be there at the crack of dawn! :pac:

Just offering suggestions, hate when people throw stuff out there and yet have no interest in helping to organise. Just some ideas.

166man

I'd like to make the next one of these but I work the weekends most of the time and usually have wednesday/thursday off. I would certainly be up for some go-karting or something like that? Every few months for the meet's as well.

dgt

A lot of the time I wanted to go to a meet but couldn't due to college stuff/reserves etc. But in the summer now that there's less worry of the Monday and more chance of better weather...

pred racer

First id like to say that I really enjoyed the 2 motors meets I was at!
I think it would be a shame if they stopped, its great to put faces (and persona's) to avatars and sigs;)
Im afraid I cant help on the scheduling as im out of the country half the time, so for me, attending is only a matter of wheather I'm here or not.
A good few folks have mentioned karting. I live very close to pallas karting (near tynagh co. Galway) which is imo the best karting track in the country. Also a friend of mine runs a paintballing place nearby.
Id be happy to enquire at either place for a group event at either place, and im sure we could find an emptyish car park for the actual meet.

Edit: there is a savage piece of road, just the far side of Killimor, totally flat, wide and twisty

Col200sx

I haven't been to a Motors meet, yet. But I intend to make one this summer

I wonder would there be enough interest in doing a few regional meets?

Say: Galway, Cork, Dublin, Waterford etc, that way if you got a few together to meet up and put faces to names, and there wouldn't be a committment to drive a couple of hours each way for first-timers.

There could be more of a chance of a convoy to a meet further away next time too.

Regarding bigger events, like karting, paintballing, nights out etc. While they're all good suggestions, they do cost quite a bit, petrol, accommodation, the event itself and spending money, which I think in the current climate is tough to get big numbers for.

Having been a rep on the SXOC for a couple of years, we organised events like that couple times a year, but generally had monthly/bi-monthly regular local regional meets to keep people interested.

In fact it goes to show that the local meets worked, as sometimes you'd have 7-8 cars at an SXOC meet, and only 1 would be a 200sx!!!

MetzgerMeister

Personally, I love the meets. I've been to 4 of them since January and I enjoyed each one. With that said, I agree with conzy that it has gotten a bit samey at this stage.

I think a meet every 3 months would be a better idea. Also, I find it offputting when people post in the meet threads saying "Can't make it as I'm going to another meet somewhere else". This kind of detracts from the boards one but maybe that's just me.

Meeting for pints is another idea but that would also incur the cost of staying somewhere that night. I presume the best place for this would be Dublin but a lot of people mightn't want that.

The meet in January was a huge success and I'm of the opinion that it was due to the fact that IIRC, there wasn't a proper meet on for a good while before that. Once a month is good in a way but it's also going to flog the thing to death.

dahamsta

The wife has asked me to point out that 12 is too early for people travelling a fair distance.

Me, I think 4 a year is plenty, perhaps with independently organised local meets to fill in the gaps. And I have no interest in barbecues or any of that crap. You might as well dole out flat caps, padre pio badges and "speed kills" stickers if you go down that route.

Now a track day...

(No, I haven't actually been to one yet. Babies can be a pain in the arse that way.)

Atomic Pineapple

There's a dyno day on Saturday week - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056653834

It offers more than just standing around in a car park, people can come along even if they don't wish to put their car on the dyno. The dyno results open up good banter between everyone and with everyone around the dyno watching for results it's much easier to get to know everyone.

Location isn't central but it's near Dublin so should suit a few people to head to it for a bit of craic.

I think more things like that would help, you could also have go karting meets, show and shine meets, meets where a scenic drive is organised as part of the day, you could even go all out and organise a drive to Athlone and have a night out set up with a private area in a local pub or something.

Jemmy

I don't think mini monthly meets are too regular, there is nothing stopping us organising a larger meet 2/3 times a year karting or whatever aswell. Then the monthly meets are still there for the ppl who do head down.

Been to quite a few of these & really enjoy meeting boardsies face to face rather than just chatting on here. Haven't made the last 2 mind you but things have got in the way, was planning on going this month though!

However I would be a bit ticked off if I drove all the way down from wicklow & ended up being the only one there (which i think happened last month to someone ).

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Meeting for pints is another idea but that would also incur the cost of staying somewhere that night. I presume the best place for this would be Dublin but a lot of people mightn't want that.

Group rates, if we got the numbers

dahamsta wrote: »

Now a track day...


(No, I haven't actually been to one yet. Babies can be a pain in the arse that way.)

Track days take commitment from ppl on here, you need about 30ish ppl & are talking 100-130 for the day + track fuel, then whatever it costs to get to the track etc because there aren't really any central locations for ppl. Don't get me wrong I'm not putting the idea down I'd love a track day (addicted after 3!) but I'd be surprised if we got the numbers on here for it. Requires alot of organising too & it would have to be a case of prepay & tough if you pull out unless you can sell it on to another member yourself.

If ppl are interested I'd be up for helping with organising it or even pricing it up, or a BBQ or night out with a stop over.

draffodx wrote: »

There's a dyno day on Saturday week - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056653834

It offers more than just standing around in a car park, people can come along even if they don't wish to put their car on the dyno. The dyno results open up good banter between everyone and with everyone around the dyno watching for results it's much easier to get to know everyone.

Location isn't central but it's near Dublin so should suit a few people to head to it for a bit of craic.


I think more things like that would help, you could also have go karting meets, show and shine meets, meets where a scenic drive is organised as part of the day, you could even go all out and organise a drive to Athlone and have a night out set up with a private area in a local pub or something.

Disappointed I'm missing the dyno day always good craic, if any of ye can head along even if you don't want to dyno the car I say do it always a bit of banter & slagging.
But won't make it because I'm heading to the UK for the SXOC weekender and to collect & drive a newly rebuilt & tuned RX7 *does lil dance* from London to Lincolnshire on the first day. :D:D

Col200sx wrote: »

Having been a rep on the SXOC for a couple of years, we organised events like that couple times a year, but generally had monthly/bi-monthly regular local regional meets to keep people interested.

Oh really, going to the weekender?! :D

Tallon

What about a traveling meet once in a while?

Say, it starts at 10am in Dublin on the docks or something, then Naas for 12pm, then portlaoise for 2pm, then Cork / Galway / Whatever for 4pm

That way, people can go to whichever is nearer, and / or arrive at any of the locations at 10am and stay all day chatting to whoever is there

It also means, the die hard petrol heads have an excuse to do a bit of driving, rather than just parking up for the day

Big Nasty

I'm involved in a few car clubs and various forums. One thing I've noticed lately among all events is that people are less willing to travel long distances and more ready to go to local events. This is down to the cost of fuel and less expendable income obviously.

Portlaoise is central for sure but I think the suggestion of having four meets a year in Dublin, Cork, Galway, Waterford would work better and then have one major event in a central location.

We should do a Motors beers too!

Dirkster

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I'm involved in a few car clubs and various forums. One thing I've noticed lately among all events is that people are less willing to travel long distances and more ready to go to local events. This is down to the cost of fuel and less expendable income obviously.

Portlaoise is central for sure but I think the suggestion of having four meets a year in Dublin, Cork, Galway, Waterford would work better and then have one major event in a central location.

We should do a Motors beers too!

Ya definitely. I haven't been to one but would go to one straight away if it was in Cork and then I'd be more inclined to travel a bit further the next time.

Atomic Pineapple

So just for some insight to see would regional meets be a go who here would be willing to organise the meets for their area?

Big Nasty

draffodx wrote: »

So just for some insight to see would regional meets be a go who here would be willing to organise the meets for their area?

I would be happy to do so for Dublin.

ottostreet

Tallon wrote: »

What about a traveling meet once in a while?

Say, it starts at 10am in Dublin on the docks or something, then Naas for 12pm, then portlaoise for 2pm, then Cork / Galway / Whatever for 4pm

That way, people can go to whichever is nearer, and / or arrive at any of the locations at 10am and stay all day chatting to whoever is there

It also means, the die hard petrol heads have an excuse to do a bit of driving, rather than just parking up for the day

This is a great idea, I'd like to do a bit of driving. Most clubs are able to have convoys without any law breaking, I'd like to think Boards members are just as capable and mature. Also, I try to get to as many meets as possible, I'm pretty easy as to whats organised, as I like the social aspect and meeting people!

MugMugs

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I'm involved in a few car clubs and various forums. One thing I've noticed lately among all events is that people are less willing to travel long distances and more ready to go to local events. This is down to the cost of fuel and less expendable income obviously.

Portlaoise is central for sure but I think the suggestion of having four meets a year in Dublin, Cork, Galway, Waterford would work better and then have one major event in a central location.

We should do a Motors beers too!

But what's stopping 4 Leinster heads jumping into somebody's motor and hitting off to Cork or Galway or Dundalk (hey) etc? Tolls / fuel is split straight out, nobody is short.

So a meet in Cork.... Mugs leaves Dundalk (hey) with voodoo, stops in swords and picks up two other heads, stops in Tallaght picks up another and they tinker on from there. Costs are split and a bit of banter on the way down too....

That's just an example....

Big Nasty

MugMugs wrote: »

But what's stopping 4 Leinster heads jumping into somebody's motor and hitting off to Cork or Galway or Dundalk (hey) etc? Tolls / fuel is split straight out, nobody is short.

So a meet in Cork.... Mugs leaves Dundalk (hey) with voodoo, stops in swords and picks up two other heads, stops in Tallaght picks up another and they tinker on from there. Costs are split and a bit of banter on the way down too....

That's just an example....

Nothing only a bit of organisation hai.

Tallon

But the fun is driving... Hence it being a Motors Meet

MugMugs

Tallon wrote: »

But the fun is driving... Hence it being a Motors Meet

Well if cost is a factor surely they'll be sitting at home looking at their cars instead of out meeting other enthusiasts.

MetzgerMeister

Mugs - what the hell is with the (hey) after Dundalk?!

Atomic Pineapple

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Mugs - what the hell is with the (hey) after Dundalk?!

Off topic, but everyone in Ardee says Hey at the end of their sentences, must be the same for Dundalk? But I've never heard of it in Dundlak.

Anyway, is MCMLXXV the only one willing to put some organisational work in?

MugMugs

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Mugs - what the hell is with the (hey) after Dundalk?!

I'm piss ripping the North Louth accent buddy. It runs more or less through the border counties........ Hey

TestTransmission

draffodx wrote: »

Anyway, is MCMLXXV the only one willing to put some organisational work in?

That's something we can worry about in a while, can I assume you're volunteering or you might actually even turn up to a meet?

When the motor mods discussed these monthly meets back in November we said we'd revisit the idea again if it goes stale.Regional meets are great, both me and EPM both organised meets in Cork and Limerick respectively.As has been mentioned plenty of times before there was nothing stopping people from organising smaller meets elsewhere, they'd have to be approved by Mods obviously first, that's the only thing.


And seeing as I've been organising the Portlaoise meets for a while now, I'll still be spearheading this.I'll look into it and see if something bigger and better than Midway can be organised.I'll obviously need a bit of help from a few kind souls here though. Will probably look into a Munster meet soon enough in Cork/Limerick.

166man

I'd be up for a Dublin/Leinster meet soon anyway if it could be organised. Fuel costs would be minimal and there are a fair few members on here that don't live outside the pale (:D) so a Dublin/Leinster meet could be an option.

Atomic Pineapple

TestTransmission wrote: »

That's something we can worry about in a while, can I assume you're volunteering or you might actually even turn up to a meet?

I'd love to help but I haven't got the time to at the moment and I'll be at the dyno day on the 7th!

Quazzie

TestTransmission wrote: »

.As has been mentioned plenty of times before there was nothing stopping people from organising smaller meets elsewhere, they'd have to be approved by Mods obviously first, that's the only thing.

Whats the criteria that needs to met to get mods approval. It'd help for people that are thinking of organizing a meet if they knew what they need to do to get approval.

galwaytt

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well just a few things:

* Portlaoise is a good central location.

* there should maybe 2-3 meets per year. It will be bigger an people will be able to plan them better in advance.

* date has to be picked very very carefully. It has to be checked very carefully, last time it was a huge fail, because it was on fathers day and you had a soccer match too.

* a great idea for meet is a family BBQ type event. It means that motorist can take their other halfs and kids. There are some parks and special places for that. Catering might be organised and in the world of PayPal it's easy to sort out some deposit etc.

*like any proper meet and event it needs a person responsible for it. Someone who will be a main man, the big cheese, who will organise it and look after it. Just to say: let's meet in x at y hour and wish the best won't work.

All good, bar the Portlaoise being central bit. I've had to go there 3 times in recent months, and it is anything but central. A cursory glance at a map shows it's only 'central' to people on the Dublin - Cork or Dublin - Limerick axis.

For everyone one else...........it's Athlone.

Or, alternate it between the two.

TestTransmission

Quazzie wrote: »

Whats the criteria that needs to met to get mods approval. It'd help for people that are thinking of organizing a meet if they knew what they need to do to get approval.

I'm not saying that anyone would do it but if someone wanted to use a meet as an exercise for drumming up business/cash/free advertising for a friend/themselves/business, stuff like that, that's all.

It's just better if it's checked with us so we can check with the admins so it's all good.

Tallon

Quazzie wrote: »

Whats the criteria that needs to met to get mods approval. It'd help for people that are thinking of organizing a meet if they knew what they need to do to get approval.

I think he means to post it.. Rather than spamming a thread every day, "Come over to my house lads" :P

Fiona

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I would be happy to do so for Dublin.

Mid week meets work pretty well for bmw-driver.net
I would defo go to a mid week meet in Dublin.

Drummerboy08

Fiona wrote: »

Mid week meets work pretty well for bmw-driver.net
I would defo go to a mid week meet in Dublin.

There hasnt been a midweek meet in a long time in Dublin, certainly no harm to organise one.

TestTransmission

Bumping this for more suggestions.

MugMugs

TestTransmission wrote: »

Bumping this for more suggestions.

I suggest we start a local mid week Dublin meet at a reasonable hour so commuters from the Smoke don't have to wait too long after work and won't be home too late either.

I'd also suggest one down in Cork and even the East / West coasts if anybody is game.

Bohrio

TestTransmission wrote: »

Motors meet due the 14th of July.The past 2 have had little no interest/turnout.

Should we go ahead?
Any ideas/thoughts on how to get some more interest?
Busy time of year for everyone?

Portlaoise has always worked well as it's central and pretty fair for everyone to get to, too much in having a meet once a month?

Go...

I stopped going because of this guy who kept showing up asking me if he could drive my car... I kept evading him but it just got to a point where I just dont want to show up anymore...

so if you get rid of him I will pop over next time lol

No seriously, I think it they are grand, maybe once a month is too much but I wouldnt say that will put me off going, the only reason I stopped going was because I am busy with wedding stuff and changing jobs otherwise I would have.

Maybe organize some sort of activity or something, like karting, or whatever, it doesnt really have to be motor related, even pidgeon shooting, whatever...

TestTransmission

Antares wrote: »

I suggest we start a local mid week Dublin meet at a reasonable hour so commuters from the Smoke don't have to wait too long after work and won't be home too late either.

I'd also suggest one down in Cork and even the East / West coasts if anybody is game.

Go and arrange one so...lol.Will probably have a Limerick meet within the next month if there's enough interest.

Bohrio wrote: »

I stopped going because of this guy who kept showing up asking me if he could drive my car... I kept evading him but it just got to a point where I just dont want to show up anymore...

so if you get rid of him I will pop over next time lol

Can't blame him.. :P

MugMugs

TestTransmission wrote: »

Antares wrote: »

I suggest we start a local mid week Dublin meet at a reasonable hour so commuters from the Smoke don't have to wait too long after work and won't be home too late either.

I'd also suggest one down in Cork and even the East / West coasts if anybody is game.

Go and arrange one so...lol.Will probably have a Limerick meet within the next month if there's enough interest.

Are we okay to flog it on the forum so?