Start Dates: Big 4 2012

lawlorl5

Figured it would be useful to start a thread about start dates for Big 4 grad programmes in 2012. Has anyone got their start dates yet or heard anything through the grapevine?

lauma

October the 8th . Deloitte Audit. Salary € 21,500 .

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lauma wrote: »

October the 8th . Deloitte Audit. Salary € 21,500 .

Hey Lauma , been a while since we were running around looking for a job in the Milk round thread :-)

I presume you haven't the Masters ?? A friend of mine does and his starting salary for Deloitte Audit is 22,500



KPMG start date is 17th of September and I cant wait !!!

lauma

Little Pea wrote: »

Hey Lauma , been a while since we were running around looking for a job in the Milk round thread :-)

I presume you haven't the Masters ?? A friend of mine does and his starting salary for Deloitte Audit is 22,500



KPMG start date is 17th of September and I cant wait !!!

Hi Little Pea , yes you're right I have no masters but was sitting Cap2 exams as an exernal student last week. So hopefully , Please God I passed them oh dear I sound so desperate am I ?

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lauma wrote: »

Hi Little Pea , yes you're right I have no masters but was sitting Cap2 exams as an exernal student last week. So hopefully , Please God I passed them oh dear I sound so desperate am I ?

I wish you all the best for sitting them CAP2 exams, I hope you ask for a rise when you pass them ??

lauma

Little Pea wrote: »

I wish you all the best for sitting them CAP2 exams, I hope you ask for a rise when you pass them ??

Thanks Little Pea, We shall live and see

masoodsarwar

lauma wrote: »

Hi Little Pea , yes you're right I have no masters but was sitting Cap2 exams as an exernal student last week. So hopefully , Please God I passed them oh dear I sound so desperate am I ?

Best of luck for Cap2.

But I wanted to ask "can u sit Cap 2 as an external candidate?"

I have been told by the institute that I cant.

Only Cap1 can be done so.

lauma

masoodsarwar wrote: »

Best of luck for Cap2.

But I wanted to ask "can u sit Cap 2 as an external candidate?"

I have been told by the institute that I cant.

Only Cap1 can be done so.

Thanks and Yes you can , I was on pre-training contract and just before the exams they change my status from pre training to elevation . HTH

zizo

has anyone got an idea of the pwc start date?

Loulatalu

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

zizo

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

Thanks. Thats a bit earlier than I thought!

Eabhabear

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

I had heard it was the 22nd but I could be wrong. I know the contracts were sent out last week so we should have them some time this week.

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Anyone hear about starting salaries ??

zizo

Eabhabear wrote: »

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

I had heard it was the 22nd but I could be wrong. I know the contracts were sent out last week so we should have them some time this week.

Is that for sure? Thats good news I was wondering why it was taking so long.

Loulatalu

zizo wrote: »

Is that for sure? Thats good news I was wondering why it was taking so long.

I was told around the 15th in an informal email from student services. It was not a concrete confirmation.

Eabhabear

zizo wrote: »

Is that for sure? Thats good news I was wondering why it was taking so long.

My friend emailed them last week and they said the we should have the contracts this week which will have our starting date.

Pandoras Twist

Deloitte Tax with a masters - €22,500

PwC Tax with a masters - €23,500

Bit annoyed at that difference tbh. Most other years they seem to have kept it more in line with eachother

autumnbelle

anyone know what is the story with attending lectures etc? are they compulsory and how many times a week?

biscuits11

Hi just wondering does anyone have any idea when the Audit department of Grant Thornton starts and what the salary might be for a person with a Masters?? Thanks:)

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Pandoras Twist wrote: »

Deloitte Tax with a masters - €22,500

PwC Tax with a masters - €23,500

Bit annoyed at that difference tbh. Most other years they seem to have kept it more in line with eachother

Hi there ,

Where are you getting your info ? I presume KPMG would be the same as PWC anyway ?

The Big Red Button

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

I'd be surprised if all trainees are starting at the same time? It's usually done in a couple of phases, with a few weeks between each.

autumnbelle wrote: »

anyone know what is the story with attending lectures etc? are they compulsory and how many times a week?

They're not compulsory (well, they kind of are in theory, not so much in real life.) There's usually 1-2 on weeknights, and 1-2 full day weekend lectures, each week.

If you're in audit, I wish you luck saying to a manager/senior at 6pm on a weeknight in busy season, "Well, I'm off, I've to go to a lecture." Lol.

An Citeog

chatterpillar wrote: »

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

I'd be surprised if all trainees are starting at the same time? It's usually done in a couple of phases, with a few weeks between each.

The audit trainees do all start at the same time. Think there's one day of IT training staggered over the first week and then 2 weeks of intensive training for everyone before they release you into the wild. Tax and Advisory grads start earlier but do the same 2 week training programme.

chatterpillar wrote: »

autumnbelle wrote: »

anyone know what is the story with attending lectures etc? are they compulsory and how many times a week?

They're not compulsory (well, they kind of are in theory, not so much in real life.) There's usually 1-2 on weeknights, and 1-2 full day weekend lectures, each week.

If you're in audit, I wish you luck saying to a manager/senior at 6pm on a weeknight in busy season, "Well, I'm off, I've to go to a lecture." Lol.

They want you to go to lectures but in a lot of cases, it's more idealistic than anything, especially during busy season. It's entirely up to you though. It's probably worth making the effort to go to as many as you can before Christmas and see how you go from there. Get your exams first time and nobody will bat an eyelid as to your attendance record at lectures. They also stream most of the lectures online if you're sadistically inclined.

zizo

PwC contract arrived today. €22500 for audit with masters, as expected really.

Eabhabear

Does any PwC people know what the story is with finding out what departments we're in? I'd have thought it would have been included in the contract.

Pandoras Twist

Little Pea wrote: »

Hi there ,

Where are you getting your info ? I presume KPMG would be the same as PWC anyway ?

From people starting with Deloitte and PwC this year.

I wouldn't presume KPMG would be the same as PwC. I'd be surprised if Deloitte were the only ones paying that rate. I'd always thought it KPMG, PwC and Deloitte paid the same and E&Y paid slightly higher but don't give overtime.

autumnbelle

Also are big four trainees paid weekly, fortnightly or monthy?

Padkir

autumnbelle wrote: »

Also are big four trainees paid weekly, fortnightly or monthy?

Monthly, last working day of the month for KPMG! Only 3 more days!:D

pugw

Eabhabear wrote: »

Does any PwC people know what the story is with finding out what departments we're in? I'd have thought it would have been included in the contract.

Wont be told till training starts

ferike1

chatterpillar wrote: »

If you're in audit, I wish you luck saying to a manager/senior at 6pm on a weeknight in busy season, "Well, I'm off, I've to go to a lecture." Lol.

They can't do anything to stop you! Its a valid excuse as you are in a training contract. Work + exams.

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ferike1 wrote: »

They can't do anything to stop you! Its a valid excuse as you are in a training contract. Work + exams.

I certainly wont be missing any lecturers due to working late.

ferike1

Little Pea wrote: »

I certainly wont be missing any lecturers due to working late.

Yeah, you gotta look out for number 1! If you fail all that happens is that you will be fired.

Ruginator

zizo wrote: »

Eabhabear wrote: »

Loulatalu wrote: »

I was told PwC Audit trainees will start around the 15th of October.

I had heard it was the 22nd but I could be wrong. I know the contracts were sent out last week so we should have them some time this week.

Is that for sure? Thats good news I was wondering why it was taking so long.

Pwc Audit trainees are starting on the 22nd of October with 3 weeks training in Spencer Dock, all as one intake, think were the only firm that takes everyone in one big group. There will be one IT day in advance of that date to familiarize with the very basics of the IT system, the rest is done on the 3 week training course.

KenHy

Where I am anyway we are told quite defiantly that lectures/exams are to be higher priority then overtime. Managers and Partners do work to this - they do expect to be told in advance that you have lectures if it's busy season and otherwise you'd be working - but they wouldn't be stopping you going and they will in fact encourage you to go and not to skip them. I've been told to leave when I had lectures on.

Shorty11857

Ruginator wrote: »

Pwc Audit trainees are starting on the 22nd of October with 3 weeks training in Spencer Dock, all as one intake, think were the only firm that takes everyone in one big group. There will be one IT day in advance of that date to familiarize with the very basics of the IT system, the rest is done on the 3 week training course.

I assumed everyone in PWC would be starting around the same time

I'm starting on Monday (17 September) in RAS

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Shorty11857 wrote: »

Ruginator wrote: »

Pwc Audit trainees are starting on the 22nd of October with 3 weeks training in Spencer Dock, all as one intake, think were the only firm that takes everyone in one big group. There will be one IT day in advance of that date to familiarize with the very basics of the IT system, the rest is done on the 3 week training course.

I assumed everyone in PWC would be starting around the same time

I'm starting on Monday (17 September) in RAS

My friends aren't starting until October

An Citeog

Shorty11857 wrote: »

Ruginator wrote: »

Pwc Audit trainees are starting on the 22nd of October with 3 weeks training in Spencer Dock, all as one intake, think were the only firm that takes everyone in one big group. There will be one IT day in advance of that date to familiarize with the very basics of the IT system, the rest is done on the 3 week training course.

I assumed everyone in PWC would be starting around the same time

I'm starting on Monday (17 September) in RAS

Advisory start first, then Tax around the start of October and Assurance are the last group to start.

shaunc356

1 day training oct 17th in dublin. 3 weeks training starting 22nd october in dublin. salary €20,700 pwc cork assurance, studying for a cap 1 exam and cap 2's modularly.

crystal1990

Ruginator wrote: »

Pwc Audit trainees are starting on the 22nd of October with 3 weeks training in Spencer Dock, all as one intake, think were the only firm that takes everyone in one big group. There will be one IT day in advance of that date to familiarize with the very basics of the IT system, the rest is done on the 3 week training course.

:)Hi, can i ask some of the interview Qs last year? cause i got on next week and a bit nervous..

Pandoras Twist

crystal1990 wrote: »

:)Hi, can i ask some of the interview Qs last year? cause i got on next week and a bit nervous..

use the search function. Look at last years milkround thread. Everything they ask is in there