Would you get grinds/extra classes from a student?

Togepi

I'm just curious, some people who get an A1 in a particular subject in the Leaving go on to give grinds in that subject. I'm assuming they'd charge a lot less than actual teachers, but still, would you be willing to get them to teach you? Or would you much rather get a teacher to help you outside school, either for the Leaving or Junior Cert?

HeaneyBabe

providing i get an A1 in my language, i'll be giving grinds.

Togepi

HeaneyBabe wrote: »

providing i get an A1 in my language, i'll be giving grinds.

Do you plan on giving grinds for the Junior Cert or Leaving Cert? If I got an A in one of mine I'd love to, I can't imagine it'd be too easy to get work though. I suppose it'd depend on the location.

ChemHickey

Togepi wrote: »

I'm just curious, some people who get an A1 in a particular subject in the Leaving go on to give grinds in that subject. I'm assuming they'd charge a lot less than actual teachers, but still, would you be willing to get them to teach you? Or would you much rather get a teacher to help you outside school, either for the Leaving or Junior Cert?

That's what I plan on doing when I'm in college. I'm expecting a few a1's so I'd offer grinds in my college subjects to LC's for like a really reduced rate.

The real question Togechic( ) is that are you willing?

HeaneyBabe

Togepi wrote: »

Do you plan on giving grinds for the Junior Cert or Leaving Cert? If I got an A in one of mine I'd love to, I can't imagine it'd be too easy to get work though. I suppose it'd depend on the location.

Yeah both I've built up my own level of the language so hopefully I could pass that on I wanna be a teacher too

Anita Blow

I got an A1 in a few subjects last year and gave a couple of grinds. I had made tons of notes and essays for myself for Hamlet, poetry and some of the comparative stuff and figured after the work I put into them I may aswell give grinds instead of doing nothing with them

Togepi

ChemHickey wrote: »

That's what I plan on doing when I'm in college. I'm expecting a few a1's so I'd offer grinds in my college subjects to LC's for like a really reduced rate.

The real question Togechic( ) is that are you willing?

I'm expecting (ie. hoping for) a maximum of one... :cool: Would love to give grinds in the subject though! (So yes, TOTES willing.) :P

HeaneyBabe wrote: »

Yeah both I've built up my own level of the language so hopefully I could pass that on I wanna be a teacher too

Ah, makes sense then if you want to be a teacher!

Anita Blow wrote: »

I got an A1 in a few subjects last year and gave a couple of grinds. I had made tons of notes and essays for myself for Hamlet, poetry and some of the comparative stuff and figured after the work I put into them I may aswell give grinds instead of doing nothing with them

Fair point, yeah hopefully I'll get to anyway.

finality

I would've liked to give maths grinds, and I think I would've been quite good at helping people understand things. Exam went badly, now I'm expecting a B and that's not going to be too impressive, so giving grinds is probably out of the question now. And I don't care enough about my other subjects to consider giving grinds. :L

To answer your question, if I'd wanted grinds in any subject and a student was available to give them, I would probably have been quite happy to avail of their services. I'd say in some cases university students would be better at giving grinds than a lot of teachers... though I've never experienced a grind so I wouldn't really know :L

ChemHickey

finality wrote: »

I would've liked to give maths grinds, and I think I would've been quite good at helping people understand things. Exam went badly, now I'm expecting a B and that's not going to be too impressive, so giving grinds is probably out of the question now. And I don't care enough about my other subjects to consider giving grinds. :L

To answer your question, if I'd wanted grinds in any subject and a student was available to give them, I would probably have been quite happy to avail of their services. I'd say in some cases university students would be better at giving grinds than a lot of teachers... though I've never experienced a grind so I wouldn't really know :L

I'm sure you'll do better than a B.

I'm planning on giving chemistry grinds hopefully. And maths too. And then i'll offer to the student that I can help in any other subjects too if they need help.

leaveiton

I wouldn't get grinds from them if they weren't studying the subject in college, e.g. if they were offering grinds for English because they got an A1, but they were studying a completely different course. But I would if they were offering grinds in the subject they do, like someone in a science course who got an A1 in chemistry offering chemistry grinds. Even if they didn't get an A1 or whatever I'd probably still go with it. I got maths grinds this year from my sister's boyfriend, an engineer, and he was brilliant! No teaching experience, no interest in being a teacher, but he knew exactly what was going on and was able to explain things really well. Better than my own teacher, anyway!

spurious

Just because someone got an A1 in anything doesn't mean they'll be any good at helping someone who is having trouble understanding the subject.

It's very easy help someone who is getting B1s and wants an A1, not quite so easy get someone who is scoring D3 or E up to a B standard.

Someone who struggled themself often finds it easier to explain concepts to someone else who is having trouble.

Handing over notes isn't teaching anyone anything.

Mysteriouschic

I got grinds in maths from a student he was my cousins bf and he's also studying that in collage . He was just as good as any maths teacher. My grinds teacher before just stopped showing up without reason. I also got economics grind rom a student studying economics. So if you're studying the subject in college it's better.

bren2001

I give grinds in Math after getting an A in the leaving. The first year that you do them your an awful teacher, nervous and not knowing how to teach the idea. But you know the course like the back of your hand, I feel now that I am as good a grinds tutor as any teacher, infact, I'd go as far as to say I know more mathematics than them because for the last 20 years all they have done is the leaving cert course, I do a lot more than that now and understand the theory behind everything just as much (if not more).

I dont charge significantly less, started at 25, up to 35 an hour now and theres no shortage of grinds. Im even considering setting up a Saturday morning maths school.

UnholyGregor

I'll give biology and chemistry grinds (expecting a1's in those) providing anybody's willing to give me 10-15 euro an hour... not sure about pricing though... i mean, i can definitely teach chem and bio to the standards of most teachers who charge upwards of 30 euro an hour, but still, i lack the legitimacy of a 40 year old man who's been doing it for years...

fizzyorange

I'd love to give geography grinds (hoping for a high B and will be studying it in college for my first year) but like, who asks for geography grinds? :pac:

bren2001

UnholyGregor wrote: »

I'll give biology and chemistry grinds (expecting a1's in those) providing anybody's willing to give me 10-15 euro an hour... not sure about pricing though... i mean, i can definitely teach chem and bio to the standards of most teachers who charge upwards of 30 euro an hour, but still, i lack the legitimacy of a 40 year old man who's been doing it for years...

Start higher than that, if you want to be sure of getting a grind then 20 is a good price for your first. Once you get one or two youll discover how hard they are, I wouldnt do one for less than 25 (price I started).

The real money comes when you can do 2 students at the same time. 25e each for a 1 hour grind, 50e for 1 hour. Your in heaven then!

PictureFrame

I'm going to advertise Economics grinds around February of next year. I'm expecting an A in it and i'm going to be doing it next year in college so I might as well! I'd say students would be more willing to get grinds off a young person actually. If you are doing a certain subject in college i.e. in my case Economics i'd definitely advertise for grinds!

spurious

fizzyorange wrote: »

I'd love to give geography grinds (hoping for a high B and will be studying it in college for my first year) but like, who asks for geography grinds? :pac:

Put up an ad in your local supermarket and see - you might be surprised.

FaoiSin

I'd feel bad asking over 20 euro for an hours work :P The prices just seem ridiculous to me. I wouldn't be too bad at it though because I usually help my brother with his stuff.

spurious

The main thing with grinds is to know when you are not helping the person and stop.

Bears and Vodka

I would love to give grinds in the subjects I'm good at provided I get As in them. I also believe actual students are better at explaining things to a student than teachers are. For example, once before the mocks I was helping a lad in the library with an OL Maths problem. He struggled to get a D3 even. After I explained it to him once and went through it with him he actually said: ''Wow, I understand it after you told me how to do it once, my teacher spent weeks on it and I didn't get it''. His teacher IS good, he's also my teacher but the teacher's style may not suit some students for one reason or another.
When I explained the Compound Interest formula I explained everything in really simple terms, tried to be as clear as possible and it worked for him.

thesimpsons

as a parent I'd be reluctant to pay a student for grinds unless I knew they were excellent at explaining things. my kid got 3 A1s last year in Leaving, she's no good at explaining things though, even her younger brother in primary won't go to her for maths or irish help. getting an A1 doesn't mean you can teach. I'd far prefer to pay for grinds to someone who has the patience and experience of dealing with the way people `see' things.

amyleaving

Personally i would prefer to get a teacher , someone who has been dealing with students for years, often they charge the same amount, but if it was less money and it was a student who continuously got A's or i couldn't find a teacher in my area then i would

eoins23456

been giving maths grinds for 2 years now.got an a1 in the leaving now going into third year now in college and studying maths. charge 15-20 euro an hour!the best way to get grinds seems to be word of mouth!

Scarlett Scout

I'd like to give grinds in Chem and Geography as I really enjoy them and enjoy teaching(wanna be a teacher:))Just wondering how did ye advertise?:D

Togepi

spurious wrote: »

Just because someone got an A1 in anything doesn't mean they'll be any good at helping someone who is having trouble understanding the subject.

It's very easy help someone who is getting B1s and wants an A1, not quite so easy get someone who is scoring D3 or E up to a B standard.

Someone who struggled themself often finds it easier to explain concepts to someone else who is having trouble.

Handing over notes isn't teaching anyone anything.

I definitely agree, I'm not saying anyone who gets an A1 should give grinds, not everyone is suited to teaching. I'd love to give grinds because I love the subject, am already fairly good at correcting the work (obviously I'd hope to get better at that), and I just enjoy explaining things to people. If they don't get it the first time, I'll try another way to explain it, and see whatever works for them, but I won't just leave it if they don't understand it.

I've also helped a couple of friends in the past (one coming up to her Junior Cert, and the other coming up to her Leaving Cert (oral)), in two different subjects, and I think I did a good job and enjoyed helping them out.

Geo10

I wanna be a teacher too but I know personally I'd never get grinds off a student. I used to get grinds in the 2 subjects I did outside school (feels weird using past tense!) and my mam made sure they were experienced teachers. I'd say a student would only get work if there were no teachers giving grinds in that subject or if the person wanting grinds was strapped for cash.
I know getting an A1 doesn't automatically make you a good teacher but despite that I don't know anyone who would want grinds off a B student.

MegGustaa

spurious wrote: »

Just because someone got an A1 in anything doesn't mean they'll be any good at helping someone who is having trouble understanding the subject.

It's very easy help someone who is getting B1s and wants an A1, not quite so easy get someone who is scoring D3 or E up to a B standard.

Someone who struggled themself often finds it easier to explain concepts to someone else who is having trouble.

Handing over notes isn't teaching anyone anything.

I agree, although I think does depend on the individual who got the A1, and the subject. Someone who got an A1 in Maths isn't necessarily any good at teaching Maths to someone else - however they might be! I know I've been helping out students in my own year with Maths in particular since primary school, and I think I've gotten progressively better at empathising with people who don't understand it as quickly as I do. Teaching is a learning experience, too.

But in general, I hate the whole business of those people who got 600 points being treated like absolute experts in their field. What works for them doesn't necessarily work for anyone else, there's no magic key to the Leaving. I got 11 As in my JC and I'm easily the least qualified person to tell people how to do well because I don't remember doing anything special to get there. People have asked me how I did well and I always disappoint them by saying 'I just did my homework and revised for tests' - they want some magic formula but it simply doesn't exist. Teachers are definitely the best people to advise you on how to study, there's no doubt about it.

bren2001

Geo10 wrote: »

I wanna be a teacher too but I know personally I'd never get grinds off a student. I used to get grinds in the 2 subjects I did outside school (feels weird using past tense!) and my mam made sure they were experienced teachers. I'd say a student would only get work if there were no teachers giving grinds in that subject or if the person wanting grinds was strapped for cash.
I know getting an A1 doesn't automatically make you a good teacher but despite that I don't know anyone who would want grinds off a B student.

I find a lot of parents look for past students to give grinds. Teachers can quite often be set in their ways in how they teach and students never feel fully comfortable in the grind. I'll quite often spend the first ten minutes of a grind as they talk the ear off me about "what one of their friends did", I just add that time on at the end so they get the full hour. But in return for that they have no problem stopping me when they don't understand something or I explain it badly.

Thinking teachers know more about a given subject is wrong, I've meet many of my old teachers who if we had some weird form of math contest I'd wipe the floor with them now. They have 30 years of experience, I have a passion and drive for teaching and for students to do well. You don't maintain that for 30 years.

bren2001

eoins23456 wrote: »

been giving maths grinds for 2 years now.got an a1 in the leaving now going into third year now in college and studying maths. charge 15-20 euro an hour!the best way to get grinds seems to be word of mouth!

Jesus....your cheap. I charge 35 now and am usually booked up by the end of September. I use allhonours to advertise but at this stage its word of mouth. Generally I end up teaching in one family. Start with one, then do a cousin, then back to the brother etc.I'm going into final year (4th) and don't know if I can take on any extra grinds, a lot of my students were in 5th year last year. You might want to up your price, your very cheap.

earwax_man

I was thinking of giving Irish and German grinds for €10/€15 an hour next year to help cover for groceries and etc. for college.

eoins23456

bren2001 wrote: »

Jesus....your cheap. I charge 35 now and am usually booked up by the end of September. I use allhonours to advertise but at this stage its word of mouth. Generally I end up teaching in one family. Start with one, then do a cousin, then back to the brother etc.I'm going into final year (4th) and don't know if I can take on any extra grinds, a lot of my students were in 5th year last year. You might want to up your price, your very cheap.

Does/Did all honours get you alot of grinds?

bren2001

eoins23456 wrote: »

Does/Did all honours get you alot of grinds?

It got me most of my grinds but last year or the year before they changed the grinds site, don't really get too many from it now. Its worth the 20e because you get it back on your first grind.

I get a LOT of emails from people on grinds.ie now. Over the course of September and October I usually get 5-6 grinds and then stop taking on any more students. It lulls till January then from then on I get an email a week really, I am in Dublin tho.

hotjock

I am having trouble signing up for Allhonours.ie SMPT error cannot connect to host. I emailed them but no reply. Anyone have trouble with this site lately?