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Yardages!!!

  • 21-06-2012 2:46pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭


    Watching the European Tour this morning from Cologne on Sky. Commentator mentioned Alvaro Quires 7 iron yardage is 196yards. Am i missing something here, i hit a 7 iron around 150yards. Thats unreal!! A completly different game to the one we play. LoL
    And i was always told to hit within yourself 70-80% of the full whack so to be more accurate. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Trampas


    most of people on here can hit 200 yards with the 9 iron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭jay5296


    Ha Ha, think i'll give it up so. lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    jay5296 wrote: »
    Watching the European Tour this morning from Cologne on Sky. Commentator mentioned Alvaro Quires 7 iron yardage is 196yards. Am i missing something here, i hit a 7 iron around 150yards. Thats unreal!! A completly different game to the one we play. LoL
    And i was always told to hit within yourself 70-80% of the full whack so to be more accurate. :eek:

    if you go to a tour event and see these lads hitting balls on the range it would be no surprise to you that they can hit the ball 50 yards further than us mere mortels
    also, swinging it easier doesn't neccesarilly mean you'll be more accurate,
    sometimes swinging easy can result in a break down in the swing

    the likes of Alvaro would probably struggle hitting the ball easy/straight as that's not his natural rhythem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Whyner


    It's a job versus hobby thing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Quiros carry with a 6 iron would be about that, with a little wind he could prob get the 7 iron to that no prob yeah. Thats my 5 iron distance, these lads have super technique so its no surprise really

    These guys arent your average good pro golfer, they are the best in the world


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    Trampas wrote: »
    most of people on here can hit 200 yards with the PW.

    FYP:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭augustus gloop


    thats why sometimes watching womens golf can be enjoyable, as most of us can relate to yardages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Tones69 wrote: »
    Quiros carry with a 6 iron would be about that, with a little wind he could prob get the 7 iron to that no prob yeah. Thats my 5 iron distance, these lads have super technique so its no surprise really

    These guys arent your average good pro golfer, they are the best in the world

    Jees 196 yards with a 5 iron is some distance, no wonder you got to single figures so quick. I'd be looking at nearly a 3 iron to get that sort of distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,020 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Tones69 wrote: »
    Quiros carry with a 6 iron would be about that, with a little wind he could prob get the 7 iron to that no prob yeah. Thats my 5 iron distance, these lads have super technique so its no surprise really

    These guys arent your average good pro golfer, they are the best in the world

    Jees 196 yards with a 5 iron is some distance, no wonder you got to single figures so quick. I'd be looking at nearly a 3 iron to get that sort of distance.

    I hit a 9 iron 150... It just doesnt go straight all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Gmpd


    There is a 150yrd island at the range I go to and I hit my 7 iron to the pin ( when straight ) but I was out there last night and I hit my 9 iron and it just dropped onto that 150 island I was shocked.. Managed to do it another couple of times but that was it!! Suppose when us mere mortals get our swing rhythm and timing right u can be presently surprised :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Gmpd wrote: »
    There is a 150yrd island at the range I go to and I hit my 7 iron to the pin ( when straight ) but I was out there last night and I hit my 9 iron and it just dropped onto that 150 island I was shocked.. Managed to do it another couple of times but that was it!! Suppose when us mere mortals get our swing rhythm and timing right u can be presently surprised :)

    tbh you won't hit a 9 iron 150 unless you have a lot of swing speed which doesn't just come from rhythm and timing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭MP62


    Tones69 wrote: »
    Quiros carry with a 6 iron would be about that, with a little wind he could prob get the 7 iron to that no prob yeah. Thats my 5 iron distance, these lads have super technique so its no surprise really

    These guys arent your average good pro golfer, they are the best in the world
    That's tour distance right there, are you a pro?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    MP62 wrote: »
    That's tour distance right there, are you a pro?.

    no he's just slightly dillusional like a lot on here in terms of the distance they actually carry certain clubs,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Thread on boards regarding club distances descends into farce.... Who saw that coming???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    heavyballs wrote: »
    no he's just slightly dillusional like a lot on here in terms of the distance they actually carry certain clubs,

    Dont start this crap now okey dokey....Im not dellusional, i know my distances, hardly some hack who just made it from 18 to 9 in 3 months by accident..195yd 5 iron is not huge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Tones69 wrote: »
    heavyballs wrote: »
    no he's just slightly dillusional like a lot on here in terms of the distance they actually carry certain clubs,

    Dont start this crap now okey dokey....Im not dellusional, i know my distances, hardly some hack who just made it from 18 to 9 in 3 months by accident..195yd 5 iron is not huge
    Well done you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    heavyballs wrote: »
    Well done you

    Thankadoo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Gmpd wrote: »
    There is a 150yrd island at the range I go to and I hit my 7 iron to the pin ( when straight ) but I was out there last night and I hit my 9 iron and it just dropped onto that 150 island I was shocked.. Managed to do it another couple of times but that was it!! Suppose when us mere mortals get our swing rhythm and timing right u can be presently surprised :)

    Ball was probably just getting progressively further back in your stance ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    remember a lot of these events are played in warm climates which makes a big difference to the distance, could be the difference in 20 yards compare to damp/cold Ireland.

    Also they are using the best balls and clubs. I changed clubs this year (same make/model just 8 years newer) and gain 10 meters per club. But I've a old 3 wood and can nearly it my 4 iron the same distance with the new clubs, so a lot is to do with equipment.

    Then finally its club speed.

    I hit my 7 iron about 140 to 145 meters and 6 iron would be 150 to 155, but during winter months I could be 10 meters less. My 3 wood is a poor 180 meters, but diver is anything from 220 upwards. If course thats when I hit them straight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Gmpd


    fullstop wrote: »
    Gmpd wrote: »
    There is a 150yrd island at the range I go to and I hit my 7 iron to the pin ( when straight ) but I was out there last night and I hit my 9 iron and it just dropped onto that 150 island I was shocked.. Managed to do it another couple of times but that was it!! Suppose when us mere mortals get our swing rhythm and timing right u can be presently surprised :)

    Ball was probably just getting progressively further back in your stance ;)

    Or maybe I just conjured the POWER OF ALVARO!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    9 iron is the weirdest club for me. All the rest seem to go the same distance each time but occasionally I hit a 9 iron and it goes 15-20 yards further than I expect. No idea why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    9 iron is the weirdest club for me. All the rest seem to go the same distance each time but occasionally I hit a 9 iron and it goes 15-20 yards further than I expect. No idea why.

    Are you on logged into Boards when they go further???
    It's quite common that, I'm working on it myself. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I'm 24 years old, have alot of upper body strength and hit a pretty big drive.

    My irons, I don't. I probably take my 7iron from 150yrds, even my 6 in some occasions.

    And I could not give a **** in the slightest.. ;)


    *well I lie, obviously I SHOULD be hitting my irons further, something I'm looking into as to why, but I definitely dont feel embarrassed or uncomfortable saying so :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    ajcurry123 wrote: »
    Are you on logged into Boards when they go further???
    It's quite common that, I'm working on it myself. :D

    ?

    It's just that it normally goes 180-190 and sometimes it could be upto 210 yds.
    This can be very tricky on short(ish) Par 5s where I am faced with a 180-190 yard second after by 300+ yard drive. BTW, I'm 6'4"", hung like a baboon and drive a Porsche. Must ask Rory what he does when we're next away with Caroline & the girls in the Caribbean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I'm 24 years old, have alot of upper body strength and hit a pretty big drive.

    My irons, I don't. I probably take my 7iron from 150yrds, even my 6 in some occasions.

    And I could not give a **** in the slightest.. ;)


    *well I lie, obviously I SHOULD be hitting my irons further, something I'm looking into as to why, but I definitely dont feel embarrassed or uncomfortable saying so :)

    HAHA YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT A REALLY SMALL WILLY. I only know this cos I hit my 7 iron about 150-155 too and mine is tiny :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I'm 24 years old, have alot of upper body strength and hit a pretty big drive.

    My irons, I don't. I probably take my 7iron from 150yrds, even my 6 in some occasions.

    And I could not give a **** in the slightest.. ;)


    *well I lie, obviously I SHOULD be hitting my irons further, something I'm looking into as to why, but I definitely dont feel embarrassed or uncomfortable saying so :)

    For God sake, are you a man at all? 7 iron ONLY 150 yds??? Next think you'll be telling us is that you like Wham and knit in your spare time.

    Don't be coming on here asking us to validate your inadequacies. Real men hit 7 irons 230 yds+. You are and should be ashamed of yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    So, from what I gather, the Shaft is the most important thing when it comes to yardages...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭stringy


    Tones69 wrote: »
    Dont start this crap now okey dokey....Im not dellusional, i know my distances, hardly some hack who just made it from 18 to 9 in 3 months by accident..195yd 5 iron is not huge

    it's 180m, which is in fairness quite long. I hit about same, h/cap 7 and I'd be one of the longer hitters in the club.

    As for Quiros, freakish distance. Although I played a match against a +1 golfer two weeks ago. Holy sheeite, he was easily 10 yards longer than me. Hadn't really happened before. #wakeupcall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    Tones69 wrote: »
    Dont start this crap now okey dokey....Im not dellusional, i know my distances, hardly some hack who just made it from 18 to 9 in 3 months by accident..195yd 5 iron is not huge

    stringy wrote: »
    it's 180m, which is in fairness quite long. I hit about same, h/cap 7 and I'd be one of the longer hitters in the club.

    As for Quiros, freakish distance. Although I played a match against a +1 golfer two weeks ago. Holy sheeite, he was easily 10 yards longer than me. Hadn't really happened before. #wakeupcall

    OK, I swore I would never get involved in a "how far I hit my clubs" discussion, but had to comment..:eek:

    A 195yd 5 iron is not beyond the relms of imposibility for an amature by any means.

    I have a 104 avg driver club head speed (trackman) and with my 26 degree 5 iron (standard lenght 5.5 rifle shaft) can carry 180-185 when hit well.

    There was a study conducted recently where the carry distance of golfers accross a range a clubs was carried out.

    This was broken up into a few groups to determine who were the longest hitters.

    It turns out the guys in and around the 12 handicap mark were the longest hitters accross all the clubs.

    Golfers were also given ladies flex drivers (without telling them) and they were hitting them just as far as the mens clubs. Its only when they were told what they were, that they struggled to hit them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭thewobbler


    I've often (over)hit 5-irons with a carry of 200 yards, but in standard conditions I'd be using it to hit a raised green at 175-185 yards. I don't think 195 yards is an exceptional carry at all.

    But I've such an erratic 16 handicapper swing that it's really down to the day. My carry on one 8-iron last was 165 yards, off the front foot (it's normally 135-145). That messed with my head. I'd rather not do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    I'm with Tones here some guys hit it further. I hit my 9 iron 147 and i can hit it 160 if i really go after it i hit my 5 iron 190 ish but can get it over 200 if i go after it.
    I played in a medal with a 4 and 5 handicapper a while ago and i stiffed it on a couple of holes with a 6 iron from 180 and a 5 from 195 and the 4 handicapper goes u are great with that 3 iron and was shocked when I told him it was a 5. He was hitting it almost the same distance off the tee but he just hits his irons shorter.
    My average swing speed with Driver on a trackman is 115 can get it up to 125 or so, 6 iron is 98 again i can get it up to 108 if i try.

    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭MP62


    heavyballs wrote: »
    no he's just slightly dillusional like a lot on here in terms of the distance they actually carry certain clubs,
    Ha ha ha ha, so he's just like every other golfer who thinks because he hit it that far once then thats he standard distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Whyner


    Tones69 wrote: »
    hardly some hack who just made it from 18 to 9 in 3 months

    Didn't take you long to crack this one out ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    lol at people getting butthurt because they can't hit a 5 iron 200 yards.

    "He must be a pro!"

    My 60 year old father can hit his 5 iron 200 yards.

    If you can't it's more than likely that you have a crap swing or hit it like a girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    I think the problem here guys is in the detail and the playing conditions.

    One mans 5 iron might be a 6 or a 4 iron to another. Degree change between manufactures is huge.

    Ive seen my SS at 110mph and above on vector machines and equivalent, but when I went on a trackman (best in the business) it went down to 104.

    Elevation and wind play a huge part in how far we carry our shots, this is generally why we all get the big carry from time to time and not because we are suddenly He-Men.

    All these factors combined can easily fool people into thinking they are longer then they are.

    The important bit is to know what you carry your 5 iron in perfect conditions and be able to adjust for playing conditions there after


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭newport2


    A huge factor in how far you hit your irons is where your hands are at impact. Lots of the longer iron hitters unintentionally deloft their clubs, effectively turning a 6 iron into a 4 iron for example.

    Two golfers can have the same swingspeed, the same quality of impact, but if one golfers hands are further forward at impact then he's going to hit the ball further because there will be less loft on the clubhead.

    I hit my driver 20 yards past a mate of mine, he hits his irons a club further then I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Look forward to the boards outing to see just how inadequate me and my 150yrd 7 iron is

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSI6khkZkVvCVuT4mdBsWitNVILFllHDWyoqtpD_2y9EuUardBA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    Smyth wrote: »
    lol at people getting butthurt because they can't hit a 5 iron 200 yards.

    "He must be a pro!"

    My 60 year old father can hit his 5 iron 200 yards.

    If you can't it's more than likely that you have a crap swing or hit it like a girl.

    Is this him???:D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭newport2


    Smyth wrote: »
    lol at people getting butthurt because they can't hit a 5 iron 200 yards.

    "He must be a pro!"

    My 60 year old father can hit his 5 iron 200 yards.

    If you can't it's more than likely that you have a crap swing or hit it like a girl.

    Adam Scott will be relieved, he just missed out on being classed as having a crap swing or hitting it like a girl ;)

    eqsl01_adam_scott_bag.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Clubs have a massive impact on this. As was said before the lofts differ from each manufacturer but not only that the quality of the club has a major effect.

    I changed clubs a few months back and the new clubs have the same lofts but are a far better make of club and I get an extra 10-15yards per club now, I still only hit a 7 iron 155 yards:o but that is a consistent distance for me and that club, i could prob squeeze a few more yards if tried to murder it.

    Saying that I have a friend who uses 15 years old pings and he hits a pw 160yards, he absolutely murders every shot and has to hit it as hard as he possibly can


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    mike12 wrote: »
    My average swing speed with Driver on a trackman is 115 can get it up to 125 or so, 6 iron is 98 again i can get it up to 108 if i try.

    Mike

    So you can just crank it up another 10mph when the mood takes you? Consistent ball striker I'd wager :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Here are Mc Ilroys distances from Golfdigest
    http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-equipment/whats-in-my-bag/2009-11/my_golfbag_rory_mcilroy

    Driver (8.5*) 305 yards
    3-wood (13*) 270
    5-wood (18*) 245
    3-iron 225
    4-iron 210
    5-iron 200
    6-iron 185
    7-iron 170
    8-iron 160
    9-iron 145
    PW (48*) 130
    SW (54*) 110
    LW (60*) 95

    I was surprised by his distances ,they seem a bit low for the short irons .
    I have a feeling these numbers for Rory are just estimates and he is swinging at only 85%.
    He has his 8-iron listed at 160, but he could probably dial it up to 170 if he really goes after it.

    On a side note ,his iron lofts are exactly the same as my own ,3-LW,I must be doing something right,lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    These threads aren't even amusing anymore. Who cares if you're off 16 and can carry 7 iron 160 yards into a ditch.

    If you're making club distance claims make sure you are talking about carry. So if you're on a Par 4 and you have 190yds to clear over a lake, are you really hitting a smooth 5 iron? You might if the pin is 190yds away with nothing in front of the green but there is a difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    These threads aren't even amusing anymore. Who cares if you're off 16 and can carry 7 iron 160 yards into a ditch.

    If you're making club distance claims make sure you are talking about carry. So if you're on a Par 4 and you have 190yds to clear over a lake, are you really hitting a smooth 5 iron? You might if the pin is 190yds away with nothing in front of the green but there is a difference.

    Personally if I had to carry 190, I'd be laying up :p
    If I needed to carry 150yds I'm afraid that's probably going need a good 7 or a fade with a 6 if my round depended on it.

    I've never seen a professional golfer hitting an iron up close but I'd imagine it's a different ball game to what all you Boards scrubbers (myself included) are at of a Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭newport2


    Mr. Larson wrote: »
    I've never seen a professional golfer hitting an iron up close but I'd imagine it's a different ball game to what all you Boards scrubbers (myself included) are at of a Sunday.

    "Christy O'Connor's legerdemain with his clubs is legendary in the annals of golf, especially in his native Ireland.

    His impromptu performance on Bundoran's par-3, 235-yard 13th hole is worth retelling. O'Connor, playing with some Bundoran members, landed a shot onto the green when another of his group did the same.

    The man asked O'Connor what he played and he replied "4-iron".

    "I played a 5," the proud golfer said, before being told by a third member of that four-ball O'Connor could hit anything in the bag and find the green. O'Connor obliged his partner and proceeded to hit nearly every club in his bag - including putter - landing most of them on the green."

    http://www.worldgolfhalloffame.org/hof/member.php?member=1147

    The distances given for the pros are how far they want to hit their irons, not as far as they can, like most amateurs quote.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Distances are irrelevant in many respects, hitting a 6 iron 165yards with height and straight down is a whole different world than hitting a 6 iron 185 yards with low flight and carry, this is how those professionals recover from poor drives and get over/around trees, water and bunkers etc.
    And how many balls do they lose a round????
    newport2 wrote: »
    The distances given for the pros are how far they want to hit their irons, not as far as they can, like most amateurs quote.

    Well said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    newport2 wrote: »
    The distances given for the pros are how far they want to hit their irons, not as far as they can, like most amateurs quote.
    slave1 wrote: »
    Well said

    Agree, well said..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    fullstop wrote: »
    So you can just crank it up another 10mph when the mood takes you? Consistent ball striker I'd wager :D
    the harder i hit it the better it goes just the back would start complaining fairly quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    The most important thing in golf is distance control and anyone who does not know how far they hit every club or over estimate it is fooling them selves. With the softish greens we have most places in Ireland i get zero to 2 yards of roll on a 5 iron so i play to my carry distance if i'm playing a links i will club down to allow for the forward bounce. In fairness we get f all days where there isn't a breese blowing so we are always clubbing up or down.
    The distance for the Pros are all the distances they want to hit the clubs at around 80% of full power so thats why we can get close to what they hit. If rory was to go full power his 9 iron would be 165 ish.
    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Whyner wrote: »
    Didn't take you long to crack this one out ;)

    Boom, you know it haha
    newport2 wrote: »
    A huge factor in how far you hit your irons is where your hands are at impact. Lots of the longer iron hitters unintentionally deloft their clubs, effectively turning a 6 iron into a 4 iron for example.

    Two golfers can have the same swingspeed, the same quality of impact, but if one golfers hands are further forward at impact then he's going to hit the ball further because there will be less loft on the clubhead.

    I hit my driver 20 yards past a mate of mine, he hits his irons a club further then I do.

    Thats the correct way to hit the ball though dude, theyre big hitters because they are coming into the ball with a descending blow. Its the best way to compress the ball to get distance and good contact


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