Football Manager 2013 Discussion

KnowYourEnemy

4 months and counting!

Hoping for improved press conferences, more control over finances, better player interaction and some real life scenarios affecting morale and game progression.

What would you like to see?

danniemcq

get rid of press conferences altogether, make agents flexable in their demands, sort out the f*cking database size issue.

just off the top of my head, i'm sure there is more...

Oh and no steam activation!

KnowYourEnemy

Also I'd like more teams to show an interest in signing my fringe/reserve/youth team players - more often than not the ones not in my plans just stagnate.

Additionally, if you're signing a player predominately as back up or second choice, I'd like them to stop moaning and threatening to leave every time they're not in the team.

I SIGNED YOU AS BACK UP!!!!!!!

davidk11811

I don't agree with completely getting rid of press conferences, I think only when you are playing a big game, signed a big player, sold an important player etc.

gnfnrhead

The press conferences are far too repetitive. Either a lot more options, or less press conferences altogether.

Reserves/Youths almost never get sold. I've offered players for free and gotten zero interest. If Arsenal could get rid of Squillaci, you should have no trouble getting rid of youth players without having to release them.

Better finances. There isn't much you can do to save money outside of wages. In reality you can do loads before having to look at the wages.

Getting underage international jobs should be easier too. For a low ranked country, the underage job should be easy to get. Half the time they don't even respond to you.

This one might just be me, but couldn't you sign foreign players and loan them out before? Any time a player doesn't get a work permit now the transfer is cancelled. Should be able to sign them anyway but obviously they can't be used without a work permit.

James__10

Hope they slow down the amount of transfers that happen in the game especially in the LOI.

Mc Love

I agree about the players signed as back ups to stop whinging - does my head in! And then you have to play them for a few games until they stop!

Team meetings need to be improved too and I am sure they will.

Press conferences as has been said already need to reduced or more options available. (I did download an update before where the match commentary and press conferences had different questions and commentary which really improved the game...not sure if it was available for 12 though)

Feeder clubs need to be assessed when boards make a decision or take your suggestion and then not come to any conclusion.

A few things I have found from the SI boards which would be good:

- Allow an in-game 'editor' where we can change our kits every season. (would make use of this)
- Players celebrating and lifting the trophy in the 3d view (could get old pretty fast though)
- A staff shortlist - pretty much as it sounds.
-Staff training - send your staff on training courses to improve certain stats... to an extent. Cost increases based on their existing level of proficiency. 1-->2 would cost nothing, 19-->20 would cost more!
- The option to permanently lock out options from a contract, such as telling them that no you will never give a "match highest earner" clause
-More interaction with a player if talks aren't working through private chat such as "your agent demanded too high a fee", "your bonus demands were too excessive", "if you want to remain at this club then you will have to lower your demands".
-More interaction with players (either in private, or through the press) to tempt them to come to your club. For example you could tempt a player with regular first team football, the chance to play with some of the greatest players in the world (if you have them), the chance to train at world class facilities, a much higher wage, trophies etc.
-Allow a manager to suggest a player fire their agent for being overly demanding. Perhaps if you build up a really good relationship with a player then they'll deal with you personally instead of through an agent demanding a 4M fee?
-Allow managers to suggest that loans are paid off when you have sufficient funds
-Allow managers to announce their resignation/retirement for a certain date, and to accept job offers at a certain date such as at the end of the season. Also allow managers to give a reason - perhaps at a press conference - such as "The board refused to do X/Y/Z", "By winning the World Cup I've achieved my goals with international management".
-More realistic behaviour from the AI, and less cheating. I've had a case where my 20M bid was rejected but the next day the AI offered 8M which was accepted, then my new 8M bid was accepted. Make value more realistic and have greater meaning.

Bertser

Just sort out the horrible database problem and allow me to improve my Youth Recruitment Network more in smaller leagues and I'll be happy.

unplayable

amazing thing is that their is prob 50 things they could improve and yet i still love this years game, it is constantly evolving and will never be perfect. id say ive spend close to 6 months of my life playin this game. its just so addictive.

SureYWouldntYa

A new feature where you can go back to start of transfer window where none of the signings made that summer have happened ( eg Hazard still plays for Lille instead of Chelsea etc etc)

yohan the great

I'd like if you were allowed to change a players mind in contract negotiations instead of them just saying no to your approach straight away

tvercetti

Remember the crazy things you could do in Ultimate Soccer Manager 98

• Set ticket prices
• Build bars etc around the stadium
• Bet for/against your team
• Attempt to bribe opponent
• Deal with Sponsors
• Take out bank loan

I am not saying these should be added as these are not part of a managers job but that was a crazy game.

IvySlayer

tvercetti wrote: »

Remember the crazy things you could do in Ultimate Soccer Manager 98

• Set ticket prices
• Build bars etc around the stadium
• Bet for/against your team
• Attempt to bribe opponent
• Deal with Sponsors
• Take out bank loan

I am not saying these should be added as these are not part of a managers job but that was a crazy game.

Total Club Manager

You would spend hours before each match. The detail it went into was amazing.

tvercetti

IvySlayer wrote: »

Total Club Manager

You would spend hours before each match. The detail it went into was amazing.

I still have that somwhere in the house, the one with Bobby Robson on the front, 2003 I think

MrKingsley

Have to agree with the press conferences. I just leave them to my assisstant now.

Definitely some sort of coaching training aswell. It would be well worth the cost of it.

Some really good points made though that wouldnt seem to hard to implement

gnfnrhead

tvercetti wrote: »

Remember the crazy things you could do in Ultimate Soccer Manager 98

• Set ticket prices
• Build bars etc around the stadium
• Bet for/against your team
• Attempt to bribe opponent
• Deal with Sponsors
• Take out bank loan

I am not saying these should be added as these are not part of a managers job but that was a crazy game.

FIFA Manager has a lot of them. Or did anyway. Haven't played it in a couple of years now. You could build airports and roller coasters and everything

Buying the club was awesome too. That would be a great addition IMO. Give a reason to care about your wage, bonuses etc.

EdenHazard

1. Director of Football should be involved more, they actually serve no purpose(well in all the games up to FM11 anyway, don't know about 12, refused to buy it) Obviously a DOF can be annoying, but depending on their personality they can be either cooperative or overbearing. This would annoy people but its a realistic aspect of football management. Perhaps make it relatively easy to tell the board to get rid of them though.
Also it could just be as simple as interacting with the DOF and saying you want a new keeper, then he'll come back with a list of players.
Also I think player recommendations should be done to suit the style of play of your team, but then the DOF/Scout may claim that they feel 'despite not being the most technical, I feel such and such a player will add versatility/steel in midfield etc.
Like if your a direct team, the DOF will recommend players to suit that system, long ball, physical players but then they might say ''mauro zarate(for example) would add some much needed guile that the team lacks'

2.Internationals-
National Youth Academies
Able to discuss with league managers long term strategy for national team, like the way Germany changed its playing style completely in the 21st century, with the clubs in the Bundesliga in conjuction with German FA devising a new strategy. Obviously this would be for keen international managers.
This would alter the type of player being produced and the style of football played in the country in general.
I think FA's need to have much more interaction with you.
They need to make a bigger deal out of tournaments and create more of an atmosphere. I wanna see ex pro/journalists guides to teams involved(star men, manager, possible line ups, predictions)
Squads should be picked more on performances than reputation. Obviously it depends on the manager, but some managers would call up a player in fantastic form despite not being viewed as good as someone else.

Agents:
Scrap the agents fees, the AI is too dumb to deal with them, as the system is too complex.

Interviews of prospective candidates when applying for a job, here you can detail what your visions for the club are, what you hope to achieve, possible players you'll look to bring in etc.

Dynamic Ability
I think if form lasts over a certain period, and you get the right luck(int. call up/CL football/joining a big club with great facilities) the player could improve beyond their preset ability. For example if you start from league two with a club and have a few younger players in the starting 11, it should be possible for them to make the stepup to a higher level as you progress.
Likewise let's say your Shamrock Rovers and you dominate the league and maybe go far in Europe, these players would improve over time because of the competition etc. Think of it like when Mourinho managed Porto, players like Costinha, Maniche, Carvalho, Deco, they obviously had talent but they weren't really known before then despite being old enough, but under his guidance they became International players and joined some of the biggest European teams.

Mc Love

Press conferences are good too sometimes, so that is why I leave the crap matches to the Ass man and the good (big) matches to me.

KnowYourEnemy

Hoping they improve the 3D match engine

Crowd chants related to a particular club you're playing as would be a welcome addition, as would more flares/stewards/segregation...... making it all the more aesthetically pleasing.

Bertser

I'd love if you had an option to pay a loan in full if you can at the time, hate having to pay it monthly for things like stadiums, take ages to repay.

KnowYourEnemy

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New book, looks a great read!

glenjamin

Stop flooding my news bar with United sign some 15 from Ajax! Who cares??

Clubs just swapping managers around. West Ham sack Allardyce, West Ham announce Pulis as their new manager, Stoke announce Moyes as their new manager, Everton announce Allardyce as their new manager!

Sgt Pepper 64

Stop offering me players the day AFTER the transfer window has closed

Better parent\feeder club options for players to get WP, especially for smaller clubs

Stop 18/19 year old players moaning about lack of first team action!

No more "match clubs highest earner"!

EdenHazard

glenjamin wrote: »

Stop flooding my news bar with United sign some 15 from Ajax! Who cares??

Clubs just swapping managers around. West Ham sack Allardyce, West Ham announce Pulis as their new manager, Stoke announce Moyes as their new manager, Everton announce Allardyce as their new manager!

Exactly, that news should just appear on a transfer ticker on the Leagues website unless in the rare circumstance the player might be the next Maradona or something. Like let's say a host of clubs are after him, and a team secure the signing then I think it should be newsworthy.

They need to make a bigger deal out of transfers, when a player signs, ex pros and pundits sometimes will discuss the transfer.

Also they need to replicate situations like Anzhi, Middle East, MLS and Chinese clubs better.

flyswatter

Stop the constant offering of players that you aren't even interested in all the time in the news feed.

dsmythy

flyswatter wrote: »

Stop the constant offering of players that you aren't even interested in all the time in the news feed.

You can filter them out.

20 Times 20 Times

players and coached doing UEFA coaching badges would be a nice addition

flyswatter

dsmythy wrote: »

You can filter them out.

As you can for any news item, still annoying though.

scouttio

i want an option in the menu for half time teamtalks - "throw teacup at player"

Jamey

I'd like stadiums (3d mode) to be a bit more diverse in FM 13, especially when playing in Europe. Running tracks around grounds that have running tracks, flares, banners etc.

For example a small stadium like Upton Park, and a large one like Wembley look the exact same in FM12 - I'd love to actually feel like I'm managing in Wembley when I am.

EveAlex

id love to have more input into the building of stadiums and facilities

like, 'average youth' facilities is quite bland and very broad

how about being specific - like build 'sports science building' 'youth academy' 'physiotherapy practice' or whatever - be specific about your needs and build it around your philosophy and team

maybe even design your stadium -like LMA manager used to. name the stands i.e. the Kop, Stretford End etc etc

its nice to have it a little customisable and indeed a little bit of a fantasy.

i know FM is all about realism, but at the end of the day, its still a game for our enjoyment

what about a challenge mode? where you could be thrown into the season, ten games to go, best players injured or suspended and you have to stave off promotion

or start with a team and a 3year plan is set out for you - stave off relegation, build team from youths, and get finances into shape

just an idea to beat the FM doldrums from setting in

WilcoOut

taken from another forum

1. Interactivity with more people involved in being a manager. Board discussions could give greater range of objectives, such as making x amount of money to fund some form of club development.

2. Boards/owners should be given more of a personality. If you have a dominant owner then the owner should get more involved - e.g. abramovich makes all decisions at chelsea, redknapp makes suggestions and levy makes decisions at spurs, and the arsenal board have strong financial control but wenger has almost absolute involvement in everything. If you are managing arsenal or a club with a similar board, they might give you involvement within sponsership negotiations etc. This would mean that rather than choosing any club in the game and the experience being reasonably similar with the level of difficulty depending on your budget, you'd be able to choose from a pool of clubs that would give you the type of manager involvement that you are wanting to experience.

3. More incentive in the game to get involved with youth development and training rather than just setting controls at the beginning of the season. If a training engine; a more basic but similar to the match engine could be integrated and training drills created (focus on shooting into the corners, off the ball drills, corner drills etc.). Not only would this give a more realistic portrayal of the manager, who is usually also a coach, but it would also mean that the person sat clicking a mouse on the computer is getting a better understanding of tactical coaching - hopefully helping get more people into real-life coaching.

4. Youth development screen. Role of an academy manager able to be staffed - someone who can monitor youth development and update you accordingly on u14, u16 and 18 teams. Discussions could focus on specific player training and club ethos training (Barcelona/Dortmund as examples). This area of the game could also have a specific scouting area, looking for new youth in the area/worldwide to bring into the academy.

5. The tactical options are limited by little dots on the tactics screen. Greater freedom of players base position badly needed. Greater selection of player types. Arshavin or David Silva for instance aren't inside forwards or wingers, they are a modern breed of a player that starts wide, and cuts inside - they're an attacking player that can't be classed as a forward or a winger. FM can feel free to assign a name to this role, but it needs to be accounted for.

6. Interaction choices should be far more scenario dependent, i don't just want to tell them to 'do it for the fans' every single time in order to try and stir up a bit of passion.

7. Similarly media and player interaction should be more scenario dependent and interesting.

8. Staff roling needs to be more realistic and varied; youth scouts, defensive coaches etc. On the same point it drives me mad that your medical team consists of 1 or 2 physio's. Part of a managers job is to make sure that your players are eating the correct things, so a nutritionist should be part of the staff. I don't want an assessment of a broken leg from a physio, i want it from a club doctor. Don't mean to put down physio's but there should be a bit more to controlling the conditioning of your squad than a bloke with a sponge...

9. Linked in to point 2, if you are at a club where you have involvement in a lot with the board, you should have a bit more input into stadium development. Potentially the 3d match engine could start by zooming from outside the stadium to the pitch view, giving the opportunity to see any development that goes on. Stadium development shouldn't just be putting in 20,000 more seats, but also new fan facilities to improve club appeal and grow fanbase in local area. I was Getafe manager for a long time and despite competing with Real and Barca season on season the fanbase could never grow because it's a low rep club.

10. International management mode needs to be a bigger experience than just looking at a pool of players and seeing who's not injured. Interaction with club managers should be feasible, as well as training camps to develop the squad mentality etc.

gnfnrhead

Something I thought of the other day. I think it would be a good idea to be able to take the job of Under 17's, Reserve team etc at club level. That's where most managers start. It would mean less power, but would be a good proving ground if you wanted to go as realistic as possible.

WilcoOut

iv said this a million times before and some people rule me out of order and some agree with me, here it goes

winning a trophy is such a let down! all you get is a generic message in your inbox and thats the end of it

it should be revamped!!! better and specific interviews maybe, a video perhaps of the team lifting the trophy/open top bus?, maybe even a virtual club trophy cabnet with all the trophies amassed can be stored

any other thoughts on this?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Something to do with the money you earn.

WilcoOut

baz2009 wrote: »

Something to do with the money you earn.

blackjack and hookers?

flyswatter

If you are really intent on seeing any of your changes happening in new games I'd suggest joining the forum at Sports Interactive cos they most likely aren't reading this.

PerrinV2

baz2009 wrote: »

Something to do with the money you earn.

I'd put my wage back into the club if I could

danniemcq

PerrinV2 wrote: »

I'd put my wage back into the club if I could

Pay the wages of some hot prospect

CSF

baz2009 wrote: »

Something to do with the money you earn.

One could spend it on a copy of Sims.

Temaz

When's release date??

danniemcq

probably october

Dapics

Here's an idea I have been musing.

How about the establishment of a few newspapers in-game?

We could have journalists from these newspapers quiz us instead of generic ones.
This would mean we could build up a good relationship with a certain newspaper or journalist.

Should something to this degree be implemented I feel there should be a dynamic within the game whereby we as coaches could truly upset players we want to buy by declaring certain things to a magazine/newspaper of our choice... this would lea to a very fascinating aspect where the player could respond to the newspaper and we could gauge certain factors related to our interest in him.

This is IMO superior to the current system.

Mc Love

I think they need to improve the offside decisions!

Mars Bar

I'd love to be able to personally congratulate a player for winning their first senior cap for their country. Especially when they credit it to you.

Johann.

Haven't got the best of playing time from FM 2012.

However, just got my new MBP so think i'll be firing her up tonight and then once FM 2013 comes along it's game over for myself. My life goes out the window

talla10

I think nobody should be allowed manage a top flight club without being offered I think you have to earn it!

Also like to see monthly and/or annual fan meetings where fans can ask questions and make feelings known better than through fans spokesperson.

flyswatter

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Something I thought of the other day. I think it would be a good idea to be able to take the job of Under 17's, Reserve team etc at club level. That's where most managers start. It would mean less power, but would be a good proving ground if you wanted to go as realistic as possible.

I think you can do this already, it's in the manager options but you obviously have to still be in charge of the senior team.

gnfnrhead

flyswatter wrote: »

I think you can do this already, it's in the manager options but you obviously have to still be in charge of the senior team.

You can control them alright, I mean only having that job. No say in the senior team, only able to make recommendations for signings etc. No owner in their right mind would give a former Sunday League player with zero experience the role of first team manager but they might give you a chance at Reserve level.

7.Ronaldo

From playing FM 2012 I would like to see the role of the Chief Executive developed. I found myself wasting a lot of time negotiating with agents over wages, add ons and signing on fee's. This part of the game wasn't so bad until the introduction of agents. Even renewing contracts has become a lengthy process.

Having the option to let somebody else do this would certainly add to the enjoyment of the game and make it more realistic. There should be different models for different clubs. Man Utd for example have David Gill who basically carries out Ferguson's instructions. It would be nice to be able to say I want a midfielder from my shortlist who is under 23, spend no more than 50% of my transfer budget, keep the wage within 10% of our current top earner and don't pay excessive agent fee's. The Chief Exec could then report back with possible targets and you can give the deal the go ahead.

There could be different models such as the way Arsenal and Chelsea operate. Both opposite ends of the spectrum. Users could also have the option to disable the feature and deal with all transfers / contracts themselves.

Dravokivich

talla10 wrote: »

I think nobody should be allowed manage a top flight club without being offered I think you have to earn it!

Also like to see monthly and/or annual fan meetings where fans can ask questions and make feelings known better than through fans spokesperson.

It's not an RPG. Some people like to get in quickly with top flight teams and there's no harm in that. Why not manage your dream team with their current set of players?

Your suggestion means by the time they've levelled far enough, any that might still be there would be rotation/retired players.

If you want to play from lower leagues to topflight by gaining a reputation, you can. Nothing to stop you from doing that. But enforcing a levelling system could end up cutting out a substantial amount of their target audience.