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Girl & Donkey

  • 19-06-2012 10:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭


    Saw a hippie girl walking towards Galway on sunday morning with a donkey carring her stuff, she looked like she was walking round ireland or the world or something , a friend saw her later on lought atalia having some grub with the donkey on the grass there. The donkey was all kitted out with luggage and high viz vest !!
    Anyone know what her story is ???


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭desaparecidos


    Disappointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭StonedRaider


    She's doing it for charity. She witnessed her partner being mauled to death by dogs on a farm in Malaysia last year
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irishman-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-in-Malaysia-113261529.html

    She was on galway bay fm with keith finnegan a couple of days ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Disappointed.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    Title was misleading. Got excited for nothing...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Title was misleading. Got excited for nothing...:(

    Man, you must have a sad life. :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭cats.life


    awh crap was that her? she passed our house on monivea road 12noon on saturday. i waved at her though:o.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Notch000 wrote: »
    Saw a hippie girl walking towards Galway on sunday morning with a donkey carring her stuff, she looked like she was walking round ireland or the world or something , a friend saw her later on lought atalia having some grub with the donkey on the grass there. The donkey was all kitted out with luggage and high viz vest !!
    Anyone know what her story is ???

    we sneer and snigger at the idea but if you are gong on an expedition through the countryside why not have a donkey carry your stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    we sneer and snigger at the idea but if you are gong on an expedition through the countryside why not have a donkey carry your stuff?

    I just wonder what the donkey's getting out it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭conaire1


    I just wonder what the donkey's getting out it.
    He/she gets well away from smart city folk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Notch000


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    we sneer and snigger at the idea but if you are gong on an expedition through the countryside why not have a donkey carry your stuff?

    I was never trying to imply there was anything wrong with it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    Notch000 wrote: »
    I was never trying to imply there was anything wrong with it.....

    Absolutely! How can you go wrong with using something that is tried and trusted for centuries?

    Throughout history, the matriarchs of a family always had a donkey around when their husbands were away at war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Notch000 wrote: »
    I was never trying to imply there was anything wrong with it.....

    Absolutely! How can you go wrong with using something that is tried and trusted for centuries?

    Throughout history, the matriarchs of a family always had a donkey around when their husbands were away at war.
    Not to mention baby Jesus. If they didn't have that donkey there would have been big trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ValerieR


    http://www.waterford-news.ie/news/mhqlojgboj/
    21 June 2012

    Walk with donkey to raise awareness about dangerous dogs
    By Sandra Quinn

    A YOUNG woman who witnessed the horrific death of her boyfriend, Ferrybank man Maurice Sullivan, as he was mauled to death by pit bulls, is going to walk all around Ireland to raise awareness about dangerous dogs.
    On January 9, 2011, Polish woman Agnieszka Jablonska and her boyfriend of 10 years, Maurice, were holidaying in Penang Island in Malaysia when he was suddenly set upon by two vicious dogs, who mauled him to death as she watched on in horror.

    Now, almost a year and a half later, to deal with the grief that is still raw, Agnieszka is setting off on a 3,000km pilgrimage tour around the country with her pet donkey Mucci, which was given to her by the Sullivan family in Waterford, as a way of dealing with the aftermath of his death. She said, “This journey is partly to regain back my independence and my feeling that I am capable of doing all those things that me and Maurice wanted to do.

    “It is my way of finding my solutions and expressing my love for Maurice and my respect for him.”
    Agnieszka is hoping to walk up to six miles each day, rain or shine and is hoping that the walk will raise awareness about dangerous dogs, as she feels the issue is only highlighted when tragedy strikes.

    She said, “There is a lot of reasons why I would like to walk with Mucci, but a very important one is to bring the awareness of dangerous breeds of dogs.

    “I have the impression it is only highlighted when tragic incidents happen. In the last few months there were several occasions where incidents happened.”

    The long arduous trek will begin on Galway beach, where Maurice’s ashes were scattered and from there, Agnieszka will set off around the rest of Ireland for the next year.

    She will be relying on the friendliness of people along her way as she looks for places to pitch her tent and give Mucci some rest along her travels, and is hoping that this trek will finally bring her peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Throughout history, the matriarchs of a family always had a donkey around when their husbands were away at war.

    And what did they have when he came back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    ValerieR wrote: »
    http://www.waterford-news.ie/news/mhqlojgboj/
    21 June 2012

    Walk with donkey to raise awareness about dangerous dogs
    By Sandra Quinn

    A YOUNG woman who witnessed the horrific death of her boyfriend, Ferrybank man Maurice Sullivan, as he was mauled to death by pit bulls, is going to walk all around Ireland to raise awareness about dangerous dogs.
    On January 9, 2011, Polish woman Agnieszka Jablonska and her boyfriend of 10 years, Maurice, were holidaying in Penang Island in Malaysia when he was suddenly set upon by two vicious dogs, who mauled him to death as she watched on in horror.

    Now, almost a year and a half later, to deal with the grief that is still raw, Agnieszka is setting off on a 3,000km pilgrimage tour around the country with her pet donkey Mucci, which was given to her by the Sullivan family in Waterford, as a way of dealing with the aftermath of his death. She said, “This journey is partly to regain back my independence and my feeling that I am capable of doing all those things that me and Maurice wanted to do.

    “It is my way of finding my solutions and expressing my love for Maurice and my respect for him.”
    Agnieszka is hoping to walk up to six miles each day, rain or shine and is hoping that the walk will raise awareness about dangerous dogs, as she feels the issue is only highlighted when tragedy strikes.

    She said, “There is a lot of reasons why I would like to walk with Mucci, but a very important one is to bring the awareness of dangerous breeds of dogs.

    “I have the impression it is only highlighted when tragic incidents happen. In the last few months there were several occasions where incidents happened.”

    The long arduous trek will begin on Galway beach, where Maurice’s ashes were scattered and from there, Agnieszka will set off around the rest of Ireland for the next year.

    She will be relying on the friendliness of people along her way as she looks for places to pitch her tent and give Mucci some rest along her travels, and is hoping that this trek will finally bring her peace.
    Fairplay to her,if I spot her round my way she is welcome at our house.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    She's not a girl, she is 29.
    Title should be altered to Woman & Donkey.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345745/Irish-tourist-mauled-death-farm-dogs.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭mayotom


    snubbleste wrote: »
    She's not a girl, she is 29.
    Title should be altered to Woman & Donkey.

    I went out for a few drinks with the Girls.......... oh crap the women, Sorry snub I got confused what age should I change from girls to women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gaillimhabu


    I seen her in Rossaveal on Friday evening. Best of luck to her and her donkey


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    JustMary wrote: »
    And what did they have when he came back?

    Venereal diseases mostly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Hopefully she understands the link between aggressive dogs & bad owners. She is quoted as saying that “There is a lot of reasons why I would like to walk with Mucci, but a very important one is to bring the awareness of dangerous breeds of dogs."

    There is no such thing as a dangerous breed & whilst I am sure that she feels that she is doing the right thing, I hope that she learns the truth in her travels. We already have a big problem in Ireland with misinformation concerning dog breeds - recently an RSPCA warden declared that Huskies were a dangerous breed.

    The sad fact is that she will meet a lot of strays on her travels & the obligatory farm dog snapping at her heels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Discodog wrote: »
    There is no such thing as a dangerous breed & whilst I am sure that she feels that she is doing the right thing, I hope that she learns the truth in her travels. We already have a big problem in Ireland with misinformation concerning dog breeds - recently an RSPCA warden declared that Huskies were a dangerous breed.

    The woman has a dead partner to prove that dangerous dog breeds do exist !

    Are you familiar with a breed called Fila Brasileiro, who posess a trait called "ojeriza" which can be translated loosely into an intense dislike or hatred for strangers ?.
    CAFIB (Club for the Improvement of the Fila Brasileiro) insists on selectively breeding for this unique trait.

    "The standard for ojeriza states that the dog should not ”allow the judge (a stranger) to touch it. And if it attacks the judge, such a reaction must not be considered a fault, but only a confirmation of its temperament.”

    It is also well known that owners of wolf hybrids often mislabel their dogs as a husky or malamute-mix to evade detection.

    To state that dog breeds (like Pitbulls, Bandogs etc) which have been specifically bred for agression and fighting for centuries do not exist is self delusional IMHO. These vicious, unpredictable canine time-bombs pose a significant threat to public safety and have no place in any civilized society.

    See also here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    The woman has a dead partner to prove that dangerous dog breeds do exist !

    Are you familiar with a breed called Fila Brasileiro, who posess a trait called "ojeriza" which can be translated loosely into an intense dislike or hatred for strangers ?.



    It is also well known that owners of wolf hybrids often mislabel their dogs as a husky or malamute-mix to evade detection.

    To state that dog breeds (like Pitbulls, Bandogs etc) which have been specifically bred for agression and fighting for centuries do not exist is self delusional IMHO. These vicious, unpredictable canine time-bombs pose a significant threat to public safety and have no place in any civilized society.

    See also here.

    I don't want to derail the thread but I have been owning & rescuing dogs for most of my life. There is not a shred of scientific evidence to back up your claim & masses that opposes it. The most recent is the book by Professor John Bradshaw of Bristol University entitled In Defence of Dogs. It is the culmination of over 20 years of studying dogs & is one of the most comprehensive studies to date.

    Wolf Hybrids are incredible rare. Most people that think that they have one were conned. Even so Wolves are not naturally aggressive. One of Professor Bradshaw's finding is that we have totally misunderstood Wolf behaviour & this is backed up by the amazing work done by Shaun Ellis.

    One of the "time bombs" that you refer to ended up in a Galway rescue. You can read about it & more on the dangerous dogs debate here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056587405

    Briefly the BBC Panorama program bought a Pitbull puppy that, according to the seller, had been specifically bred for aggression & fighting. Because the breed is banned in the UK the dog ended up at East Galway Animal Rescue - needless to say it isn't in the least bit aggressive.

    Even the UK are now planning to abolish their law banning certain breeds & instead focus on irresponsible owners. The US statistics that you quote have been totally debunked many times but, according to a big survey of American Vets, they get bitten more by Chihuahuas than any other breed.

    My concern is that this unfortunate lady has been badly misinformed or has come to the wrong conclusion as to who was to blame for her husband's death. Maybe on her travels she will meet some dog behaviourists, trainers, Vets or rescues that will be able to convince her that the dogs were not to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    It's a fact that some breeds are better with humans than others. Just the way they are, like some breeds are more skittish (Greyhounds, Borzai etc), or boisterous than others.

    I've met lovely pitbulls and huskies, but there are way more incidences of attacks with certain breeds than others. Dogs have personalities too, people forget this. They also pick up on human moods. I don't blame the dogs per se, people don't know how to handle certain breeds, give them enough exercise etc. I think this woman will learn a lot on her walk, and hopefully it will ease her pain and trauma. I don't think her walk is to damn these breeds per se, but raise awareness. Awareness is not judgemental in itself and I don't see harm in that either way if people get a rounded opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    I also own and love my dogs, and like the Lady with the donkey I have no time for the 'sociopathic' breeds and those who use them as weapons.

    I notice you skirted around Fila Brasileiro.. a disgraceful breed bred to kill or mame people.

    Its very hard to argue with the body count and danger posed to the young and the elderly by certain breeds mentioned here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    inisboffin wrote: »
    It's a fact that some breeds are better with humans than others. Just the way they are, like some breeds are more skittish (Greyhounds, Borzai etc), or boisterous than others.

    I own a Greyhound & I have met dozens of others. I have never met one that is skittish - they are the most laid back dogs on the planet.
    inisboffin wrote: »
    I've met lovely pitbulls and huskies, but there are way more incidences of attacks with certain breeds than others.

    Because they tend to attract the wrong kind of owners. People who want a guard dog or weapon dog are bound to choose a breed that has the potential to harm & makes people fearful.
    inisboffin wrote: »
    I don't think her walk is to damn these breeds per se, but raise awareness. Awareness is not judgemental in itself and I don't see harm in that either way if people get a rounded opinion.

    Unfortunately she did refer to dangerous breeds & made no mention of irresponsible owners. My genuine concern would be that she will meet a lot of dogs on her journey & many will be unaccompanied. Her understandable fear of dogs could increase the likelihood of being bitten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I also own and love my dogs, and like the Lady with the donkey I have no time for the 'sociopathic' breeds and those who use them as weapons.

    I notice you skirted around Fila Brasileiro.. a disgraceful breed bred to kill or mame people.

    Its very hard to argue with the body count and danger posed to the young and the elderly by certain breeds mentioned here.

    I haven't skirted around - I totally dismiss it ! A breed made by man for a purpose - how can the dog be to blame for that ?

    It's very easy to argue against dog bite statistics because they take no account of the upbringing of the dog. More black people are imprisoned in America than white people. Does that mean that black people are bred to be criminals ?

    By the way what breeds do you own ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Discodog wrote: »
    I own a Greyhound & I have met dozens of others. I have never met one that is skittish - they are the most laid back dogs on the planet.

    Well that's a completely different experience to mine then, and growing up with a family friend a breeder, with two friends who own them. Same with Borzais (sp?) Russian hounds. Tend to be a bit whiny, lovely but whiny. There's a reason why so many families have labs for pets, not greyhounds or pitbulls, don't you think? It's not the cuteness factor, pitbulls are lovely. It's just what's *easier* to start off with - not saying pitbulls can't be lovely companions, I know they can.
    Discodog wrote: »
    Because they tend to attract the wrong kind of owners. People who want a guard dog or weapon dog are bound to choose a breed that has the potential to harm & makes people fearful.

    I'm confused, you're saying that the nice huskies and pitbulls I know have the wrong kind of owners? Are we not generalising now in the same way about humans? The huskies I know are lovely. But dogs sense fear from people. If people (whether instinct or bad press) fear a breed, that will have it's own knock on effect. [/QUOTE]

    Discodog wrote: »
    Unfortunately she did refer to dangerous breeds & made no mention of irresponsible owners. My genuine concern would be that she will meet a lot of dogs on her journey & many will be unaccompanied. Her understandable fear of dogs could increase the likelihood of being bitten.

    So are you saying all unaccompanied dogs are equally dangerous? I think we should cut the woman some slack here after what happened in her life. A bit of common sense. I am sure she will meet some lovely dogs. Any dogs unaccompanied that bite her *are* a danger, so we're not arguing there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    inisboffin wrote: »
    There's a reason why so many families have labs for pets, not greyhounds or pitbulls, don't you think? It's not the cuteness factor, pitbulls are lovely. It's just what's *easier* to start off with - not saying pitbulls can't be lovely companions, I know they can.

    Plenty of people get bitten by Labradors. People choose breeds for all sorts of reasons but in my experience dogs reflect their owners rather than their breed. My current three are different breeds but their characters are pretty similar. All three were literally rescued from the streets & came straight to me without warning.
    inisboffin wrote: »
    I'm confused, you're saying that the nice huskies and pitbulls I know have the wrong kind of owners? Are we not generalising now in the same way about humans? The huskies I know are lovely. But dogs sense fear from people. If people (whether instinct or bad press) fear a breed, that will have it's own knock on effect.

    No of course not. Many Husky, Pitbull & every other breed owners are good & responsible. But it is logical that someone who wants a dog to use as a weapon or for protection won't choose a Labrador. So many Pitbulls end up with owners that have them for the wrong reasons.
    inisboffin wrote: »
    So are you saying all unaccompanied dogs are equally dangerous? I think we should cut the woman some slack here after what happened in her life. A bit of common sense. I am sure she will meet some lovely dogs. Any dogs unaccompanied that bite her *are* a danger, so we're not arguing there.

    Again no I am not but all unaccompanied dogs are not under effective control & can pose a threat to someone with a donkey. I can't walk my dogs far without someone's dog rushing out of the drive barking. The dogs are only potentially dangerous because of their owners - it has nothing to do with their breed.

    I would certainly sympathise with her situation & hopefully she will meet some lovely Pitbulls & realise that it was the owner that was at fault, not the dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Discodog, I agree with you on some points (like the total demonising of pitbulls being wrong) and disagree on others (like the propensity of some breeds to be naturally more docile/agressive/skittish/wimpy whatever over others). But this thread is about someone who has lost a loved one. She is travelling with a donkey, yes. Hopefully she or her donkey will not get attacked by dogs on the way. Hopefully she will get some peace out of all this, whether it is by the walk itself, or losing some of her fear. Either way, she lost her partner, and hopefully people she meets, no matter what their dog agenda will be gentle with her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    inisboffin wrote: »
    Hopefully she or her donkey will not get attacked by dogs on the way. Hopefully she will get some peace out of all this, whether it is by the walk itself, or losing some of her fear. Either way, she lost her partner, and hopefully people she meets, no matter what their dog agenda will be gentle with her.

    I am sure that they will & many will be unaware of her story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


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    Link to a heartbreaking radio documentary from RTE Radio 1 on Maurice and Agnieszka’s story…

    Maurice - A Final Journey

    This is a story of life and death - of a man, his partner and his family. Maurice Sullivan left his home in Galway for Malaysia in August 2010, never to return…

    On the day that Maurice died, Agnieszka was promised that the dogs would be put down within ten days. Six months later, they were still alive. The attack, the plight of the dogs, and the legal fighting that followed have since been making headlines in the Malaysian media.

    This is the story of Maurice's life and death as we trace his footsteps before that fateful morning, and how his family have struggled over the past year to get the dogs involved in the fatal attack put down.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I downloaded a podcast of this & I haven't heard it yet but it does seem strange that she is still focussing on getting the dogs killed. From what I have read the Malaysian government handled the assessment of the dogs in a professional way - much better than we would of done. Surely we need to discover why the dogs attacked - you can't do that if they are dead.

    What has been said is that the dogs were kept as guard dogs. Many people get attacked because the dog, that has been trained to guard, finds it hard to differentiate between those it should bite & those that it should befriend. It is asking a great deal from any dog to expect it to be able to make those choices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Discodog wrote: »
    but it does seem strange that she is still focussing on getting the dogs killed..

    Really? This seems strange to you? It seems like a very natural response from someone who saw her partner mauled to death by these dogs. None of us are in her shoes. Even people who are strongly anti death penalty for humans in general often struggle with their own morals if someone close to them is killed. Right or wrong is one thing but I don't think it strange.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    It is laughable how the press turns nearly every dog attack into Pit Bull attacks.

    http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20110111-257515.html





    >> ASIAONE / NEWS / ASIAONE NEWS / MALAYSIA / STORY



    Tue, Jan 11, 2011
    The Star/Asia News Network


    Two dogs that killed tourist will not be put to sleep yet

    GEORGE TOWN, Malaysia - The two mongrels that attacked an Irishman have been placed at the Balik Pulau veterinary department for observation. The dogs will not be put to sleep yet.

    State Veterinary Department director Dr Wan Mohd Kamil Wan Nik said they would monitor the canines for 10 days to check if they had any dangerous diseases such as rabies.

    A team comprising 10 veterinary personnel and two policemen picked up the two-year-old dogs, a male and a female named Lee and Ning respectively, from the organic farm in Teluk Bahang at about 2pm yesterday.


    "We will not put the dogs to sleep at the moment. We have no authority to do so as this is now a police case," said Dr Wan Mohd Kamil.

    On Sunday, Irish tourist Maurice Sullivan, 50, died after he was mauled by the dogs at about 10am.

    Dr Wan Mohd Kamil said that once the observation period was over, he would write to the police on the next course of action.

    He said nothing would be done to the two other dogs at the farm.

    Balik Pulau OCPD Supt Mohd Hatta Mohd Zain said the 41-year-old farm owner is being investigated under Section 289 of the Penal Code for negligence with respect to animals.

    He said they had recorded statements from relevant parties, adding that the investigation was expected to be completed by this week.

    Separately, dog lovers want owners to be more responsible about pet care.

    "Owners should be well-informed and educated before they are given the licence to keep pets," said Malaysian Animal-Assisted Therapy for the Disabled and Elderly Association president Anthony Thanasayan.

    He is also a councillor of the Petaling Jaya City Council and Canine Advisory Team (CAT) chairman.

    Thanasayan said dogs usually acted according to the owner's instructions, or from how their masters treated them.

    The Malaysian Dogs Deserve Better canine welfare organisation urged the Department of Veterinary Services to investigate the living conditions and the kind of treatment previously received by the two dogs.

    "The department should also find out if the dogs had a mix of the pit bull breed, which is banned in Malaysia for its ferocious streak," said coordinator Christine Lai.

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Heard about her on the radio this morning, apparently on her way out to Connemara and was looking for horseshoes for the donkey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,237 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    I would be of the opinion that the owners are to blame more than the dogs.
    But regardless of that I fail to see the logic of dragging a poor donkey around Ireland to highlight the fact that she was attacked by dogs in Malaysia or whatever. Don't think its fair on the donkey to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    EGAR wrote: »
    It is laughable how the press turns nearly every dog attack into Pit Bull attacks.

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    One of the killer dogs who were described in the press as pit bull crosses.
    ""The department should also find out if the dogs had a mix of the pit bull breed, which is banned in Malaysia for its ferocious streak," said coordinator Christine Lai.

    It's good to know that the Malaysians take the public safety issue from these vicious, unpredictable canine time-bombs more seriously than we do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    No offence guys but let's focus on the woman and her donkey.
    If anyone wants to discuss "dangerous" breeds then please start a thread in Animals forum.
    They can't get enough of those discussions lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


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    One of the killer dogs who were described in the press as pit bull crosses.



    It's good to know that the Malaysians take the public safety issue from these vicious, unpredictable canine time-bombs more seriously than we do.


    :cool: Nice mongrel, I see no Pit Bull. (sorry Biko, had to answer it)

    Yes, I hope the donkey is fit to travel with a burden over metaled roads. I really fail to see how this raises awareness for anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Manta Mad ovci


    Did anyone manage to get a picture of this woman on her journey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Radio documentary here
    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/radio-documentary-maurice-sullivan-attack-malaysia-dog.html
    On the morning of Sunday 9th January 2011, Frances Crowe awoke to a phone call that would change everything in her life. She received the news that her fifty-one year old brother, Maurice Sullivan, had been mauled to death by two pit bull-cross dogs, while working on a farm with his partner in Malaysia.

    Maurice grew up in the Ferrybank area of Waterford City, but had been living and working in the Galway area in recent years. He was a talented craftsman and was well known in the west of Ireland for his carpentry and furniture restoration skills.

    Maurice moved to Malaysia in August 2010 to build a traditional wooden house for a Malaysian friend who he had met in Galway.
    While travelling over there, Maurice and his partner Agnieszka Jablonska were hoping to gain skills in sustainable building from natural materials, as well as learning about organic farming and permaculture.
    Just after the New Year, Maurice took a break from the build. He and Agnieszka answered an advertisement on a website containing a list of farms where volunteer helpers from around the world are invited to work in exchange for food and accommodation.

    On 8th of January, they travelled to Teluk Bahang on the northwest tip of Penang Island, where they were due to start work on an organic farm owned by Joseph and Beatrice Teoh. That Saturday night, they ate dinner with the couple and met their four dogs - Kang, Yin, Ning and Li.
    Maurice was planting trees on the farm the next morning when he was fatally mauled by two of the Teoh's dogs. Agnieszka helplessly witnessed the attack.

    On the day that Maurice died, Agnieszka was promised that the dogs would be put down within ten days. Six months later, they were still alive. The attack, the plight of the dogs, and the legal fighting that followed have since been making headlines in the Malaysian media.
    This is the story of Maurice's life and death as we trace his footsteps before that fateful morning, and how his family have struggled over the past year to get the dogs involved in the fatal attack put down.

    RIP Maurice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    biko wrote: »

    Having listened to it this isn't really a documentary in the sense of being an investigative program. It is a pity that RTE didn't seek some balanced opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭mattser


    The woman and donkey have turned in to a Pit bull and Husky. FFS any chance these doggie gang get, they're away barking on another thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    mattser wrote: »
    The woman and donkey have turned in to a Pit bull and Husky. FFS any chance these doggie gang get, they're away barking on another thread.

    The woman has stated that she is doing the walk to raise awareness about, what she considers, are dangerous dogs & dangerous breeds. During the documentary, mentioned by Biko, she & the family repeat the dangerous dogs argument. The strange part is where she describes Maurice as a forgiving, dog loving person who would not want to seek revenge & they she keeps focussing on wanting the dogs killed - including two dogs that were locked up in a shed during the attack & played no part in it.

    The attack was by dogs, she is walking to raise awareness about dogs so dogs would seem to be a pretty relevant part of the story. I agree with Biko that it shouldn't be a discussion about the perceived differences between breeds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    biko wrote: »
    Heard about her on the radio this morning, apparently on her way out to Connemara and was looking for horseshoes for the donkey.

    Well, she made it. Saw her today on my travels. Cant say whether her donkey got shoes or not though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    That is heartbreaking,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Here she is on Nationwide, first article, the best of luck to her, I admire her.

    http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=10038177


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    It's sad that she is still talking about dangerous breeds of dogs. She says that the topic hasn't been discussed which is untrue. Many animal welfare supporters have spent years trying to get our existing outdated restricted breed laws repealed. It is a shame that her admirable, spiritual motive has to be disturbed by her obsession with dangerous dogs.

    She says that she has no where to run to but forgiveness & understanding are essential in the process of reconciliation. I would be good if she can make the effort to understand that what happened had nothing to do with the breed of the dogs. Blaming the dogs isn't the way to healing.


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