shares advice

cury20

Im 20 years old n trying to earn moey for both college and my future? i really need some words from the wise about buying shares at present? im really wanting to do because i would love to make some money from them. so whats the best way to do this is it best to put money into shares n leave it there with the hope things pick up and maybe in 15 years they will be worth good money or is day to day buying and selling better? i have my share dealing account set up with aib and am now wanting the best info on what shares to buy etc and what taxes are to be payed. if anyone has any ideas please advice me in the right direction? just to let you know im talkin of investing around €5000. All advice greatly appreciated. Thanks

Master P

well i'd first set up an account with a different broker aib seem very expensive. sharewatch or fxcm directly.

bee_keeper

cury20 wrote: »

Im 20 years old n trying to earn moey for both college and my future? i really need some words from the wise about buying shares at present? im really wanting to do because i would love to make some money from them. so whats the best way to do this is it best to put money into shares n leave it there with the hope things pick up and maybe in 15 years they will be worth good money or is day to day buying and selling better? i have my share dealing account set up with aib and am now wanting the best info on what shares to buy etc and what taxes are to be payed. if anyone has any ideas please advice me in the right direction? just to let you know im talkin of investing around €5000. All advice greatly appreciated. Thanks

your best bet is to buy a basket of stocks , their are many different ETF,s covering different global markets and sectors

vanguard offer very reasonabley managment fees

log on to yahoo finance and type in vanguard , a list of etf,s will come up ( ignore bonds , etn,s and funds which they also sell )

VOO for example tracks the S+P 500 which is the main stock index in the usa and covers all the top companies over there

their are etf,s which cover europe , emerging markets aswell

VT covers the entire globe and has thousands of stocks spread over the entire world , around 40% is in the usa

over a long time , this should see a very decent return and you dont have to sweat over the fortunes of a small number of stocks

im with TD investing ireland who are part of the TD waterhouse group , they are cheap to broke with but their customer service is average

euroboom13

my interest in shares is similar to property.....i buy with a 5 to 10 yr view
I like to own the stock and hold the share(like property)so i order over the counter in the bank and get my certs in my own name.(little pricey but worth it)

This way i`m not tempted to be too smart! and risk getting in and out for short gains.

I only buy stock at what i recon to be rock bottom!!which means that the`re all recovery plays..which means allso that i`ve never been more keen a buyer the last 4yrs....

good luck...never been a better time in my life time (or past 100yrs)to buy!!!(my opinion:))

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

my interest in shares is similar to property.....i buy with a 5 to 10 yr view
I like to own the stock and hold the share(like property)so i order over the counter in the bank and get my certs in my own name.(little pricey but worth it)

This way i`m not tempted to be too smart! and risk getting in and out for short gains.

I only buy stock at what i recon to be rock bottom!!which means that the`re all recovery plays..which means allso that i`ve never been more keen a buyer the last 4yrs....

good luck...never been a better time in my life time (or past 100yrs)to buy!!!(my opinion:))

i own the following european stocks

tesco
france telecom
tot = french energy company
banco santander
siemens
richemont = swiss luxury goods


i also have three irish companies

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

i own the following european stocks

tesco
france telecom
tot = french energy company
banco santander
siemens
richemont = swiss luxury goods


i also have three irish companies

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/19/germany-surrenders-eurozone-bailout-fund?CMP=twt_fd

BUY SOME MORE.....and quickly!! GOOD LUCK.....get some; ie:bir uk:barc ie:ipdc

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/19/germany-surrenders-eurozone-bailout-fund?CMP=twt_fd

BUY SOME MORE.....and quickly!! GOOD LUCK.....get some; ie:bir uk:barc ie:ipdc

ive no intention of buying anymore banks , i already own banco santander which i bought for $8 on the NYSE and cannot wait to offload , it has a big dividend but what good is that if the shares end up like bank of ireland

i also own bank of ireland shares which i bought at 9 cent , intend to sell them at 14 cent , they went to 14 cent in march so i dont think im being too greedy or optimistic , besides , i only have a small amount

i might buy british american tobacco and vodafone which are solid dividend payers

forgot to mention that i also own glaxowsmithkline

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/19/germany-surrenders-eurozone-bailout-fund?CMP=twt_fd

BUY SOME MORE.....and quickly!! GOOD LUCK.....get some; ie:bir uk:barc ie:ipdc

why are you recomending independant news and media , the newspaper industry is in tatters and dieing on its feet

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

ive no intention of buying anymore banks , i already own banco santander which i bought for $8 on the NYSE and cannot wait to offload , it has a big dividend but what good is that if the shares end up like bank of ireland

i also own bank of ireland shares which i bought at 9 cent , intend to sell them at 14 cent , they went to 14 cent in march so i dont think im being too greedy or optimistic , besides , i only have a small amount

i might buy british american tobacco and vodafone which are solid dividend payers

forgot to mention that i also own glaxowsmithkline

Honestly do yourself a big favor buy more bank shares...banking crisis is nearly gone full circle upside hugh...even 14c will seem unbelievable in 6/12mths

I own a few of ur selection....and i`m def not selling.End of crisis bull in headlights....

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

why are you recomending independant news and media , the newspaper industry is in tatters and dieing on its feet

Media takeovers undergoing in every nation at the moment...
tv,radio were all heralded as end of print media ....now its internet

i won`t believe that babble....not even if it were writin in black and white:cool:
MEDIA and banks ,powerhouses of the world, always.

And people wouldnt scrape them off a boots now,thats when i buy;)

A Primal Nut

I just started investing - have Siemens, GMCR, FLR and YNDX (Yandex, the Russian search engine). They are solid companies near their 52-week low, but who have solid, increasing financials (revenue, profits) and who will be around for a long time, and thus I'm expecting their shares to come back up. I'm outperforming the market but until the market starts going down I won't know for sure how good these stocks are. YNDX is the riskiest but so far they have been a big gainer. GMCR turned out to be a bad buy initially although I'm still in profit with them at the minute.

Their are lots of solid blue-chip companies near 52-week lows who don't really have anything bad going for them other than that the market as a whole is bad right now (Siemens is a perfect example). Not all of them will come back up of course, but if their revenues/profits are increasing each year and more positive news than negative news, I'm hoping that will be a good sign!

euroboom13

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I just started investing - have Siemens, GMCR, FLR and YNDX (Yandex, the Russian search engine). They are solid companies near their 52-week low, but who have solid, increasing financials (revenue, profits) and who will be around for a long time, and thus I'm expecting their shares to come back up. I'm outperforming the market but until the market starts going down I won't know for sure how good these stocks are. YNDX is the riskiest but so far they have been a big gainer. GMCR turned out to be a bad buy initially although I'm still in profit with them at the minute.

Their are lots of solid blue-chip companies near 52-week lows who don't really have anything bad going for them other than that the market as a whole is bad right now (Siemens is a perfect example). Not all of them will come back up of course, but if their revenues/profits are increasing each year and more positive news than negative news, I'm hoping that will be a good sign!

seems like a good selection....my v risky choices(please ignore) are pure gamble and was not recommending them other than shear punt!
Siemens great buy!!

GOOD LUCK:cool:

bee_keeper

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I just started investing - have Siemens, GMCR, FLR and YNDX (Yandex, the Russian search engine). They are solid companies near their 52-week low, but who have solid, increasing financials (revenue, profits) and who will be around for a long time, and thus I'm expecting their shares to come back up. I'm outperforming the market but until the market starts going down I won't know for sure how good these stocks are. YNDX is the riskiest but so far they have been a big gainer. GMCR turned out to be a bad buy initially although I'm still in profit with them at the minute.

Their are lots of solid blue-chip companies near 52-week lows who don't really have anything bad going for them other than that the market as a whole is bad right now (Siemens is a perfect example). Not all of them will come back up of course, but if their revenues/profits are increasing each year and more positive news than negative news, I'm hoping that will be a good sign!

siemens has nothing wrong with it bar guilt by association with europe , people often forget that share price is driven by sentiment in the short term , not performance , its a good buy but could drop much further in the short term depending on how europe goes

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

siemens has nothing wrong with it bar guilt by association with europe , people often forget that share price is driven by sentiment in the short term , not performance , its a good buy but could drop much further in the short term depending on how europe goes

Europe gaining strenght...best time ever to invest in europe

sky/bbc(uk) like to throw stones but truth is i`d be terrified to stand in their greenhouse (and usa)

5yrs is a very long crisis for an emerging economy...crisis exit imminent,u heard it here first:D

"if we where playing higher or lower in cards europes at 3 of diamonds but everyones saying lower.....highers where its going"

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

Europe gaining strenght...best time ever to invest in europe

sky/bbc(uk) like to throw stones but truth is i`d be terrified to stand in their greenhouse (and usa)

5yrs is a very long crisis for an emerging economy...crisis exit imminent,u heard it here first:D

"if we where playing higher or lower in cards europes at 3 of diamonds but everyones saying lower.....highers where its going"

you remind me of one of those three card trick dealers at a county fair

roll up , roll up

Monty Burnz

euroboom13 wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/19/germany-surrenders-eurozone-bailout-fund?CMP=twt_fd

BUY SOME MORE.....and quickly!! GOOD LUCK.....get some; ie:bir uk:barc ie:ipdc

Good luck with the ramping... :rolleyes:

euroboom13

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Good luck with the ramping... :rolleyes:

I`m in for the long haul....ramping for traders, i`m a speculator
good luck yourself:pac:

maddragon

For €5000, I would go with some blue chip nice dividend paying stocks. McDonalds are a good buy IMO at $90 currently and they pay 3% dividend.

I think Tesla motors are going to do well with their new model s about to be launched but it might be too late. They are $31 with a $42 price target over the next year.

If you want to have high risk but potentially very high return you could buy Bank of Ireland at €0.095 or Royal Bank of Scotland 245p STG. The UK government bought half the bank for twice that per share.

Ryanair could do well also over the next few years.

Kenmare resources are also in my portfolio.

Monty Burnz

euroboom13 wrote: »

I`m in for the long haul....ramping for traders, i`m a speculator

:pac: Touché!

euroboom13

maddragon wrote: »

For €5000, I would go with some blue chip nice dividend paying stocks. McDonalds are a good buy IMO at $90 currently and they pay 3% dividend.

I think Tesla motors are going to do well with their new model s about to be launched but it might be too late. They are $31 with a $42 price target over the next year.

If you want to have high risk but potentially very high return you could buy Bank of Ireland at €0.095 or Royal Bank of Scotland 245p STG. The UK government bought half the bank for twice that per share.

Ryanair could do well also over the next few years.

Kenmare resources are also in my portfolio.

like bank shares..
but buying any thing in $ seems crazy at 1e=$1.27 was 1e=$1.48 which would considerably reduce a 3% return(not to mention capital loss),especialy when i predict a 1e=$2.....thats my destorted view:)

euroboom13

Monty Burnz wrote: »

:pac: Touché!

any wisdom to add??

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

you remind me of one of those three card trick dealers at a county fair

roll up , roll up

Just think everyone thinks things are going to keep going south when ,to me ,it seem to by getting closer and closer to the upside the longer this goes on....

Most people see an upward trend never ending and now its impossible to convince anyone that this downward trend is just about done...King of diamonds at least

europe will fail if solution doesnt come soon!!europe cant fail.....my opinion

solution imminent:cool:mark my words:D

A Primal Nut

bee_keeper wrote: »

siemens has nothing wrong with it bar guilt by association with europe , people often forget that share price is driven by sentiment in the short term , not performance , its a good buy but could drop much further in the short term depending on how europe goes

True, their customers are international (mostly outside Europe) but it's strange the way the stock market works sometimes - even if the crisis shouldn't affect Siemens profits (as most of their revenue is international) the fact they are European hurts their stock price anyway, as investors lose confidence in other investors.

My best buy so far is Yandex (YNDX), they are up 10.71% ($18.81 from $16.69) since I bought them on Thursday, which makes me think this stock market game is easy although obviously three days when the stock market as a whole was up is not a great gauge. Still a nice start to my investing career, but mostly I'm curious what will happen it when the stock market goes down.

They went down to 16.69 mainly because Mozilla said Yandex would no longer be the default search engine in Russia; so I thought it was a good opportunity for a bargain - although I'm depending on customer loyalty after Mozilla makes the switch to keep profits increasing at least in the medium term. The fact that the price has gone back up suggests this is the kind of bad news that investors forget about a few days later.

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

Just think everyone thinks things are going to keep going south when ,to me ,it seem to by getting closer and closer to the upside the longer this goes on....

Most people see an upward trend never ending and now its impossible to convince anyone that this downward trend is just about done...King of diamonds at least

europe will fail if solution doesnt come soon!!europe cant fail.....my opinion

solution imminent:cool:mark my words:D

but we,ve had a 100% rise in u.s equity markets since spring of 2009 , we are due a pull back

bee_keeper

A Primal Nut wrote: »

True, their customers are international (mostly outside Europe) but it's strange the way the stock market works sometimes - even if the crisis shouldn't affect Siemens profits (as most of their revenue is international) the fact they are European hurts their stock price anyway, as investors lose confidence in other investors.

My best buy so far is Yandex (YNDX), they are up 10.71% ($18.81 from $16.69) since I bought them on Thursday, which makes me think this stock market game is easy although obviously three days when the stock market as a whole was up is not a great gauge. Still a nice start to my investing career, but mostly I'm curious what will happen it when the stock market goes down.

They went down to 16.69 mainly because Mozilla said Yandex would no longer be the default search engine in Russia; so I thought it was a good opportunity for a bargain - although I'm depending on customer loyalty after Mozilla makes the switch to keep profits increasing at least in the medium term. The fact that the price has gone back up suggests this is the kind of bad news that investors forget about a few days later.

banco santander is down 40% in the past three months , this despite the fact that its europes largest bank at does nearly half its business in brazil and latin america , its a spanish bank so has gotten weighed down accordingly , the markets are irrational at the moment so no stock is entirely safe , i often watch cnbc where the speak of high dividend stocks like johnson and johnson for safety but even those are down this past number of months , the banks in america are paying less than 1% on savings so div stocks are the only option for income , we really are fortunate in this country at the moment , savings rates are exceptionally generous and the only game in town with the extremle volatility in the equity markets , KBC bank are offering 4% on a one year fixed term , what blue chip stock can beat that

as for handy quick gains

mulberry group which is a luxury goods maker in the uk , dropped by 25% last thursday due to slightly disapointing earnings , went from around 21 pound back to 15 pound , i bought in at 15.45 , was up by 10% by friday afternoon but the thing is back down at 15.45 today or where i began more or less , will be interesting to see what aer lingus does in the next two days , a quick jump or a rebound after a sell off should be grabbed quick , takes a while for the dust to settle , big jumps dont last

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

but we,ve had a 100% rise in u.s equity markets since spring of 2009 , we are due a pull back

usa collapse due, i was saying a european rise long over due.

usa market capital has expanded ,which would explan perceived gains,(and euro got cheaper)

if european recovery comes ,any $stock gains when returning to euro`s will be lost.

when euro recovery comes ,that will be a perfect time to invest in u.s.a. and cheap holiday;)......But sure the euro will never recover!:D

euroboom13

[QUOTE=bee_keeper;, i often watch cnbc where the speak of high dividend stocks like johas for handy quick gains


]

Watch cnbc for an hour once and forgot how to count to ten after...scary moment...never again:D

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

usa collapse due, i was saying a european rise long over due.

usa market capital has expanded ,which would explan perceived gains,(and euro got cheaper)

if european recovery comes ,any $stock gains when returning to euro`s will be lost.

when euro recovery comes ,that will be a perfect time to invest in u.s.a. and cheap holiday;)......But sure the euro will never recover!:D

so you expect a u.s collapse in equities to coincide with a surge in european stocks , is that what your saying ?

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

so you expect a u.s collapse in equities to coincide with a surge in european stocks , is that what your saying ?

i think most american money is heading for europe(equities) at this moment...which will boost european (equites) and make the euro stronger say 1e=$1.5(maybe$2)....then dollar(crisis) will start repurchasing cheaper $debt like europe(eurodebt) has just done...followed with another european buying opportunity which will send dollar up again....Thats how i am seeing things....

dollar needs to take a step back to rebuild,europe has just done its step back!may not happen this way but $ could greatly do with a small crisis to increase bond yields and scare bondholders into selling below par.(daft not to)russel napier predicts dow 400/800 SCARY

crisis is shifting...i`am not a pro.(nowhere near) but have a keen interest in economic history and monetary policy.

I also see an end to low interest rates in europe:cool:

Currency and interest rates are key to all markets(my opinion)

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

i think most american money is heading for europe(equities) at this moment...which will boost european (equites) and make the euro stronger say 1e=$1.5(maybe$2)....then dollar(crisis) will start repurchasing cheaper $debt like europe(eurodebt) has just done...followed with another european buying opportunity which will send dollar up again....Thats how i am seeing things....

dollar needs to take a step back to rebuild,europe has just done its step back!may not happen this way but $ could greatly do with a small crisis to increase bond yields and scare bondholders into selling below par.(daft not to)russel napier predicts dow 400/800 SCARY

crisis is shifting...i`am not a pro.(nowhere near) but have a keen interest in economic history and monetary policy.

I also see an end to low interest rates in europe:cool:

Currency and interest rates are key to all markets(my opinion)

thats quite a take you have on the present market

you think the euro is going to 1= 2$ :eek: , as if the periphery was not uncompetitive enough as it is

as for american private equity flowing into europe , all i hear is how the big money men are avoiding europe

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

as for american private equity flowing into europe , all i hear is how the big money men are avoiding europe

europe is turning a corner
takeovers every day
Intel reinvesting
wilbur ross
carlos slims
denis obrien
goldman sachs "the long good buy"
ryanair
to name but a few..
these are not chancers,they are here for the upside....(the one thats never coming:rolleyes:)

these investors dont have a 40yr plan the`re to old...5/10max

When you hear it on cnbc its already happened..

greece was floating somewhere near australia last week and now its in brussels on merkles lap:D crisis shifting!Europe will be poster boy!!!

maddragon

When Europe eventually takes the brake off the printing presses as it must it will be more likely that $1 = €1.

euroboom13

maddragon wrote: »

When Europe eventually takes the brake off the printing presses as it must it will be more likely that $1 = €1.

my opinion is that if there is a sniff of printing or any growth stimulus,or even the mere german metion of it,the markets will rally which will cause the euro to go to 1e=$2...to deter american capital exits....complete opposite but makes for good debate:)

Thats where my money is...euroboom with,higher interest rates(to control inflation),higher value to $($decline),and more cash in system.(stimulus)...distored but hey,just a quess......"perfect storm":cool:

euroboom13

euroboom13 wrote: »

my opinion is that if there is a sniff of printing or any growth stimulus,or even the mere german metion of it,the markets will rally which will cause the euro to go to 1e=$2...to deter american capital exits....complete opposite but makes for good debate:)

Thats where my money is...euroboom with,higher interest rates(to control inflation),higher value to $($decline),and more cash in system.(stimulus)...distored but hey,just a quess......"perfect storm":cool:

distorted

bee_keeper

euroboom13 wrote: »

my opinion is that if there is a sniff of printing or any growth stimulus,or even the mere german metion of it,the markets will rally which will cause the euro to go to 1e=$2...to deter american capital exits....complete opposite but makes for good debate:)

Thats where my money is...euroboom with,higher interest rates(to control inflation),higher value to $($decline),and more cash in system.(stimulus)...distored but hey,just a quess......"perfect storm":cool:

so were going to have higher interest rates while at the same time more cash will be put to work , all this and money printing by the ECB ?

euroboom13

bee_keeper wrote: »

so were going to have higher interest rates while at the same time more cash will be put to work , all this and money printing by the ECB ?

armagedon has been priced in to european equities

when there is signs of growth sentiment will change overnight!

causing a boom

interest rates whiach are already at 1% will have to go up to counter the rally

which in turn will bring in more cash

BOOM

and if america is having a bad day europe will be the safe havan ....for usa and asia/china

optimistic /dreaming but i think posible

Idu

euroboom13 wrote: »

armagedon has been priced in to european equities

when there is signs of growth sentiment will change overnight!

causing a boom

interest rates whiach are already at 1% will have to go up to counter the rally

which in turn will bring in more cash

BOOM

and if america is having a bad day europe will be the safe havan ....for usa and asia/china

optimistic /dreaming but i think posible

Your posts are complete drivel. You have no idea how the markets work.

And your grammer makes my eyes bleed

euroboom13

Idu wrote: »

Your posts are complete drivel. You have no idea how the markets work.

And your grammer makes my eyes bleed

this isn`t a grammer tread,but i will try to improve just 4 you xxx

drivel
i`ve abviously offended your own wisdow if thats your best reply....kid

Idu

euroboom13 wrote: »

Idu wrote: »

Your posts are complete drivel. You have no idea how the markets work.

And your grammer makes my eyes bleed

this isn`t a grammer tread,but i will try to improve just 4 you xxx

drivel
i`ve abviously offended your own wisdow if thats your best reply....kid

It's hard to take the advice of someone in an investment forum with this amount of spelling mistakes and who's post are barely legible.

As for the content of your posts you've flooded nearly every thread here with your constant ramping up of European equities but your theory behind this potential rise is totally flawed. Just as one example there is no way that European equities will be seen as a safe haven asset should the US market suffer a sharp decline. The world is far too interconnected for that to happen

euroboom13

Idu wrote: »

It's hard to take the advice of someone in an investment forum with this amount of spelling mistakes and who's post are barely legible.

As for the content of your posts you've flooded nearly every thread here with your constant ramping up of European equities but your theory behind this potential rise is totally flawed. Just as one example there is no way that European equities will be seen as a safe haven asset should the US market suffer a sharp decline. The world is far too interconnected for that to happen

europe is down and so are all great european (global) stock.eg..siemens
so if the euro was in a good place i can see no reason why european equity would not be seen as a good havan.....

and if seimen(eg;interconnected stock)is down now hows that figure,should it not be eurocrisis proof ....your flaw

i think its just that because i`m going against convention ,ive got your wick

But you obviously believe the hype eurocrisis bull anyway...so sorry for offend your reality:rolleyes:

freeze4real

Idu wrote: »

The world is far too interconnected for that to happen

The world interconnected here is very important, you've heard the saying that when When the US sneezes the world catches cold.
e.g start of financial crises in 2008.

It started in the states then s[read to the EU countries then to Asia, etc.

This is the effect of the Global economy being interconnected.

Out of interest euroboom13 whats your background, I get the perception that you're a kid, that's because of the way you've portrayed yourself.

Some of these posters like Idu have been investing/trading for sometime do I would listen to them especially when your reasoning are flawed.

euroboom13

freeze4real wrote: »

The world interconnected here is very important, you've heard the saying that when When the US sneezes the world catches cold.
e.g start of financial crises in 2008.

It started in the states then s[read to the EU countries then to Asia, etc.

This is the effect of the Global economy being interconnected.

Out of interest euroboom13 whats your background, I get the perception that you're a kid, that's because of the way you've portrayed yourself.

Some of these posters like Idu have been investing/trading for sometime do I would listen to them especially when your reasoning are flawed.

so be it .......wont post again, just counteracting the negativity that i believe is totally unfounded and missleading....not RAMPing ......just see a specuative boom in europe coming ....and $ decline ....thats all i needed to say....my reason as unarticulate as i am are founded...say no more...

euroboom13

sorry one last post to clarify

not a trader.
i know 2 traders whom i would consider world class and in 2007/8 they lost everything because the charts they were reading kept saying buy........they were rigth for 10 yrs why would they be wrong.5/10m loses(they will never trade again/feel set up and raped..)

This forum is full of exploration stock/gold treads.......but right under there noses is baskets full of billion plus irish and european stock that is hoovering on bankrupcy....charts dont work for bankrupt stock....They are getting the care they need to recover....and will

euro bashing is making traders and investors blind.....3/4 yrs ago these stock were dicussed on this forum to death and they hadnt near bottomed out(people dont even look at them now,too painfull)....with a slightest change in euro opinion theyre will be a boom ...you can pic the stock for pennies now.....

in 1990 when i left schooling property was on the floor. you could get a house for morgage payments half the rent ...it took 10 yrs for people to see the bargains.......i am shouting at people again....buy some stock off the floor....you dont need to risk on hitting oil.....there is cash on the floor...first and last time in my life time.

europe hasn`t had to damage the euro at all yet ,so the markets will see its strength very quickly......or germany will over fix.....either way there is a boom coming...

$ problems are its debt ...my hunch is they will have to have some sort of new idea to reduce it ......i think they will look at a euro recovery and copy it....(this won`t effect the euro stock i am on about because they will have returned to a reallistic level,which is +10x)....if not, america will have to keep printing which will cause its decline anyway.....hence 1e=$2.....eitherway now is a very poor time to be buying with $1.27per euro and this will wipe out all your chart reading with in months..(my opinion)

I study economic history,banking,media moguls,monotery policy as a past time(i wish it would help my grammer but i`m past that)....i hate computers.....but want to change the eurobashing, totally uncalled for and misleading.....

Please dont risk money on $stock investing ,you will rob yourself!

Hope someone thinks outside the box and profits from this drivil:)

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euroboom13

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2012/06/21/how-well-all-get-scalded-when-they-break-china

just read this.
i think europe,only economy preparing....(we`ve reduce our asian imports):)

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CapitalNorth

Idu wrote: »

It's hard to take the advice of someone in an investment forum with this amount of spelling mistakes and who's post are barely legible.

As for the content of your posts you've flooded nearly every thread here with your constant ramping up of European equities but your theory behind this potential rise is totally flawed. Just as one example there is no way that European equities will be seen as a safe haven asset should the US market suffer a sharp decline. The world is far too interconnected for that to happen

I am interested to hear all sides of the argument. How do the Market's work IDU? How come Austrailia and China are booming (albeit China seems to be slowing down) if America sneezes, we all get a cold, How come China, Austrailia and even closer Austria and Switzerland are all doing fine, How are we all interconnected?

Monty Burnz

euroboom13 wrote: »

in 1990 when i left schooling property was on the floor. you could get a house for morgage payments half the rent ...it took 10 yrs for people to see the bargains.......

If we had 'bargain' prices in property in 2000, how are we below 2000 prices now, over a decade later? And the yield figures for anything other than apartments still don't make any sense - property yields are still too low...

Idu

CapitalNorth wrote: »

I am interested to hear all sides of the argument. How do the Market's work IDU? How come Austrailia and China are booming (albeit China seems to be slowing down) if America sneezes, we all get a cold, How come China, Austrailia and even closer Austria and Switzerland are all doing fine, How are we all interconnected?

In a 52 week cycle finishing today the Hang Seng is down c15% and the ASX c10%. I wouldn't call that booming. The FTSE is c10%, SMI c6% and the S&P c7%. The DAX is down c18% and the Eurostoxx over 20% and that's in the midst of the eurozone crisis

Not much of a difference there in the grand scale of things really and this points to what I said originally, that equities in the Eurozone won't rally while US equities tank. They may fall at a slower rate and so if you were insistent on having money in equities it may be wise to have a european based portfolio but it's foolish to think you would be gaining while the US crumbles.

As for the why I'd need days and days to lay the whole thing out. Basically it boils down to the fact that each market is reliant on one another for business. If Coke sales drop in the EU due to a recession then the bottom line is felt in the US and the share price of Coca Cola. If a US recession leads to less imports then manufacturing economies like China will suffer as a result. Commodity prices will affect different markets as will the strength of the currency when it comes to competitiveness in the exporting of goods. There's a million more examples and most of them are economically a lot more sophisticated than the basic ones I've put up

CapitalNorth

Monty Burnz wrote: »

If we had 'bargain' prices in property in 2000, how are we below 2000 prices now, over a decade later? And the yield figures for anything other than apartments still don't make any sense - property yields are still too low...

I suspect that if you had bought in 1990, you would have your mortgage near cleared now:)

Monty Burnz

CapitalNorth wrote: »

I suspect that if you had bought in 1990, you would have your mortgage near cleared now:)

I may have, but you were suggesting that we had 'bargain' prices in 2000 - but prices have dipped below 2000 levels today. And houses in urban areas still don't look like bargains even after a decade of general inflation.

CapitalNorth

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I may have, but you were suggesting that we had 'bargain' prices in 2000 - but prices have dipped below 2000 levels today. And houses in urban areas still don't look like bargains even after a decade of general inflation.

Not all houses have dropped below the 2000 levels, nobody see's value in them now, but everybody seen value in them when they reached exorbitent levels in the peak years, get on the 'property ladder' flasks and sleeping bags out, people queueing around corners.

Rents. . . ie yields have not dropped to the same extent which the capital has, not many bargains, but they are there to be found.

CapitalNorth

Idu wrote: »

In a 52 week cycle finishing today the Hang Seng is down c15% and the ASX c10%. I wouldn't call that booming. The FTSE is c10%, SMI c6% and the S&P c7%. The DAX is down c18% and the Eurostoxx over 20% and that's in the midst of the eurozone crisis

Not much of a difference there in the grand scale of things really and this points to what I said originally, that equities in the Eurozone won't rally while US equities tank. They may fall at a slower rate and so if you were insistent on having money in equities it may be wise to have a european based portfolio but it's foolish to think you would be gaining while the US crumbles.

As for the why I'd need days and days to lay the whole thing out. Basically it boils down to the fact that each market is reliant on one another for business. If Coke sales drop in the EU due to a recession then the bottom line is felt in the US and the share price of Coca Cola. If a US recession leads to less imports then manufacturing economies like China will suffer as a result. Commodity prices will affect different markets as will the strength of the currency when it comes to competitiveness in the exporting of goods. There's a million more examples and most of them are economically a lot more sophisticated than the basic ones I've put up

China's growth first quarter 7.5% and Austrailia grew 1.3%, with unemployment at 4.1% and 4.9% respectively, I would say they are doing pretty well.

I am not saying anything about America tanking at the moment, however, with America and UK's QE'ing will lead to debasing their currency, while with all the turmoil in Europe we have maintained our competive advantage, we will be a safer option for investment, think commodities days are over, they were a hedge for the impending doom, people had to eat during the recession, now other investments will offer better returns with an increased proportion of stocks paying dividends or increasing their dividend payments,

I personally believe we will see a strong pick up in the latter half of the third quarter and the final quarter of this year.