Wettest and coldest June on record?

kingshankly

Hi all was wondering is this June gonna break any records, I certainly can't remember a June as wet it has been raining constantly here in the north east for 2 weeks now. Isn't June usually the dryest of the summer months?.
Temperatures have been very low too mostly around 11-13 degree with the odd flash of 15-16.
So where does this compare to the wettest and coldest June on record?

CorkMetMan

We're certainly getting there! I've been running a climate station here in East Cork since 1988, and I'm currently up to 142.9 mm for June so far, making it the second wettest June on record with 14 days yet to go.

The wettest was in 2007 with 161.1 mm. Even looking back at the records from Cloyne Garda Station and the Deanery, my two closest now closed stations, 2012 is still the second wettest with records going back to 1924.

Not only wet, but also cool and very dull.

Sponge Bob

It may be the coldest/wettest in the south, north of Shannon I doubt it.

M.T. Cranium

1972 would probably prove to be colder no matter what happens, but I would imagine this month must be trending towards wettest June on record in many parts of Ireland except for parts of the north. We'll no doubt get the verdict on all that at end of the month, but as Ireland temperatures tend to vary in sync with the CET record, I could say that June 1972 averaged below 12 C and I happened to be on holiday (as a much younger man obviously) that month, and recall it was very very chilly for shorts.

mike65

Can't remember two consecutive dry days , hell can hardly remember one dry day this month.

ZX7R

After posting on another tread about summer i was wondering can anyone tell me when the met office started to use the meterological seasions rather than the old calander ways,just wondering would this have any affect on records that have been set in the past ,e.g. if in summer dayof 1939 the warmest temetaure was set in may and after that date the records were changed to the meterological, would that mean that the record would be set for spring

Deep Easterly

IMT wise, mean temps this June so far are running around 1.0°C higher than that for the same period last year. This is a little deceptive though as the mean maxima is actually cooler this time around by 0.7°C, our relative 'warmth' this year is courtesy of higher night time minima.

Overall, June is only 0.3°C cooler than average at this point, but defo wetter than normal everywhere; as Spongebob notes though, we have had wetter in the wesht. June 08 was by far a wetter month in these here parts.

Sponge Bob

Source

http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=MTM02&PLanguage=0

      
  Average Maximum Temperature   (Degrees C)   Average Minimum Temperature   (Degrees C)   Mean Temperature (Degrees C)   Highest Temperature (Degrees C)   Lowest Temperature (Degrees C)       
  
  
  
  
  
      1958M06   15.8   10.4   13.1   18.9   7.6       1959M06   17.4   10.8   14.1   24.9   5.5       1960M06   18   11.5   14.8   23.9   7.8       1961M06   15.7   10.5   13.1   19.1   5.8       1962M06   16.6   8.9   12.8   21.6   2.8       1963M06   17.3   10.9   14.1   24.9   7.8       1964M06   15.6   10.4   13   18.6   4.1       1965M06   16.3   10.2   13.3   23.2   4.2       1966M06   16.4   11.2   13.8   20.3   5.1       1967M06   16.6   9.9   13.3   19.5   4.7       1968M06   17.1   10.1   13.6   23   3.5       1969M06   16.9   9.5   13.2   24.8   5.4       1970M06   18.8   11.4   15.1   24.4   6.8       1971M06   16.2   9.8   13   23.8   7.6       1976M02   9.7   4.2   7   13.8   -2       1977M02   9.4   4   6.7   11.2   -1       1978M02   8.6   3.2   5.9   13.5   -4.1       1979M02   8   2.6   5.3   12.1   -4.4       1980M02   10.5   5.2   7.9   12   -0.5       1981M02   9.6   4.6   7.1   12.6   -1.8       1982M02   10.7   5.3   8   13.1   -0.9       1983M02   8   3.2   5.6   11.5   -3.5       1984M02   10.2   4.5   7.4   11.9   -2.8       1985M02   10   5.7   7.9   15.1   1.5       1986M02   5.1   0.8   3   8   -4       1987M02   9.8   3.6   6.7   14.1   -3.3       1988M02   9.6   3.8   6.7   12.5   0.2       1989M02   10.5   5.5   8   13.1   0.7       1990M02   10.7   5.5   8.1   12.8   2.5       1991M02   8.4   2.2   5.3   12.1   -5.2       1992M02   10.4   5.6   8   12.4   -2.8       1993M02   10.3   6.4   8.4   13.4   0.1       1994M02   9.8   4.5   7.2   12.7   -3       1995M02   10.6   6.1   8.4   13.1   2       1996M02   8.7   2.4   5.6   12.5   -3.8       1997M02   10.7   5.4   8.1   12.6   1.2       1998M02   11.3   7   9.2   14.4   -1.1       1999M02   10.6   6.3   8.5   12.3   -0.9       2000M02   10.7   5.9   8.3   13   1.4       2001M02   9.7   4   6.9   12.7   -1.6       2002M02   10.9   5.4   8.2   13   -1.4       2003M02   10.1   5.1   7.6   12.4   -0.3       2004M02   10.1   4.2   7.2   14.1   -2.1       2005M02   9.2   4.7   7   12.4   -0.4       2006M02   9.6   5   7.3   12.2   0.5       2007M02   10.7   5.2   8   12.9   0.8       2008M02   11.5   4.4   8   15.6   -2.4       2009M02   9.4   4.7   7.1   12   -1       2010M02   8.2   1   4.6   11.3   -2.4       2011M02   10.9   5.9   8.4   13.7   0.1

Sea Filly

mike65 wrote: »

Can't remember two consecutive dry days , hell can hardly remember one dry day this month.

The day of Ireland's first Euro match was gorgeous, in Dublin at least.

pauldry

Saw Evelyn doing the forecast after the nine news.

Can I just say it was one of the best weather forecasts ever.

She went through cloud types and showed a picture of Mace Head in Connemara and explained the cool air that is causing temperatures of 18c in sun and 11c in cloud and also air temperatures of 3c at night and ground temperatures around 0c.

She showed the rainfall figures for the country as a whole with over 400% in the South but less than normal in the North. Leinster and Munster have more than 300% so far everywhere. This will increase or stay steady next week.

This week there will be more heavy showers but Tuesday will be ok with a temperature of 17c in a slack airflow from the South. Wednesday will be ok again with 18c possible. Thursday will be a wet one but the bulk of the system is forecast over Munster and Leinster again.

Apart from the flood event of 7th and 8th June the Northwest has had only about 20% of normal rainfall and lots of sun. I actually got burnt today.

Finally THANK YOU to Met Eireann for the fantastic forecast today. The photo is something you should do more often I really enjoyed it. Did any of the rest of yes see it?

Redsunset

Yes Evelyn showed the same after the 6pm news. Was very well put together.

Harps

The south and east have definitely gotten the worst of the weather over the past while, aside from the big rain event last week and the rain two days ago its been very dry here

Stuck together an image here comparing north & south over the past 30 days, only 2 dry days at Cork airport with almost daily rain this month compared to only three notable rain events at Malin Head since mid May. The baulk of Met stations are in the southern half of the country though so a good chance it'll rival the wettest on record overall

nunn351

Its gonna be close to beating all record s

zenno

Looks like global cooling. Seriously low midnight/early-morning temps for june.

Sponge Bob

Obviously our old friend Global Warming dressed up as "climate change" to cover inconsistencies.

Big Tone

Evelyn certainly did a very good job last night, the others would want to take a leaf out of her book and concentrate less on what they wear and more on what's on the charts.

Evelyn did leave one thing out though, I thought she might mention it and that's the effect El Nino is having on the Jet Stream at the moment...it's being pulled down much further South than usual thanks to El Nino. Saw this mentioned on CBS News recently to explain why California gets battered by storms during this time and it's happening again this year.

Anyway it looks like we could have weather like this well into the Summer and into Autumn and I see all the predictions by the self styled "long term forecasters" have been way off the mark!

I can't wait for Winter, sunny days, dry and mild!

mike65

Weirdly enough I am about to experience two dry days back-to-back.

/waits for shower...

edit! :mad: tipping down!

A good inch in some areas of the Northeast today to add to the tallies.

PD_BARBS

The temperatures and rain today will certainly add to that, but I suppose we escaped the wettest April on record that England had, well atleast we did in the Northwest

Deep Easterly

Just looking at the met.ie radar sequence for the last couple of hours, that slow moving band of rain over the north almost looks like a huge flame, almost as if north Donegal is on fire with the wind fanning the flames eastwards. Must check the temperature reports for Malin Head. (just in case!)



Malin temp just 11.0c, its a cold flame.

smallwonder

Its ok, were holding the Olympic torch!!

CorkMetMan

Well, I've broken the record for the wettest June on record here in Cloyne, and it's another winter-like evening yet again. It's also on course to be the dullest June on record.

To date, June 2011 (the coolest on record) is still 0.3c cooler than this year, but if things don't warm up a bit we could well end up with the coldest, dullest and wettest June on record. What a combination.

That after a horrible April and most of May, and 5 shyte summers before it. Getting very peed off with this now.

Lucreto

I remember a few people (including me) were doing a snow dance hoping for snow and cold.

Pity we didn't know it would take 6 months to take effect.

Sorry guys.:o

Starts new snow dance.:D

amen

Obviously our old friend Global Warming dressed up as "climate change" to cover inconsistencies

a bit off post but why not Global Warning? Increased global temps, decrease in north polar ice cap, more fresh water leading to decreased Gulf stream.

Maybe a decreased polar ice could also impact on gulf stream pushing it off track and thus affecting local weather.

Of course the weather (short term trend days, weeks ,months) should never be confused with the Climate (decade, centuries ..

slowburner

amen wrote: »

a bit off post but why not Global Warning? Increased global temps, decrease in north polar ice cap, more fresh water leading to decreased Gulf stream.

Maybe a decreased polar ice could also impact on gulf stream pushing it off track and thus affecting local weather.

Of course the weather (short term trend days, weeks ,months) should never be confused with the Climate (decade, centuries ..

... and now we're into years of these cool summers. 1739/40 again? :eek:
See here

Min

Mean temperature here is 11.8C and currently at 146.2mm.

Not my idea of summer, it wouldn't be so bad if it was warmer with the heat generating thundery showers, rather than having the Atlantic dumping it's water on us continously.

kingshankly

Serious rain here last night in the north east
I have never seen a June like it

mike65

That must be the record! :eek:

Clamball

It is according to RTE

"Ms Cusack said that June 2012 is the wettest on record."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0628/heavy-rain-causes-flooding.html

ednwireland

we are around the same as last year in SW donegal (2011 - 108mm 2012 116mm)

stooge

Some amount of rain here int he last few weeks. Back garden is completely waterlogged and can't cut the grass without the mower getting stuck.

Glad I didnt listen to a certain New Zealand weatehr forecasters advice "The last 10 days of June will be the driest" Take you summer holidays at the end of June :rolleyes:

I took two weeks off in April and have another in mid July. Even with the Euros on in June I had a feeling it would be a pishy month

Deep Easterly

I think it is interesting that after the longest run of higher than normal daily MSLP values during the opening months of 2012 since 1953, that mean pressure values for this month of June are likely to finish the lowest on record in many parts of the country. Just looking at the 'IMT' daily mean values this month up yesterday, the mean daily average in middle Ireland stands at 1009.04 hPa, This is the lowest 1st - 27th June average since the 1010.6 hPa back in '97, which coincidentally enough was also a wet month in the south and east. No real sign that mean daily pressure values will rise all that much into the start of July either.

Birdnuts

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I think it is interesting that after the longest run of higher than normal daily MSLP values during the opening months of 2012 since 1953, that mean pressure values for this month of June are likely to finish the lowest on record in many parts of the country. Just looking at the 'IMT' daily mean values this month up yesterday, the mean daily average in middle Ireland stands at 1009.04 hPa, This is the lowest 1st - 27th June average since the 1010.6 hPa back in '97, which coincidentally enough was also a wet month in the south and east. No real sign that mean daily pressure values will rise all that much into the start of July either.

The Irish climate is predictable in that mild insipid winters like 2011/12 are usually followed by "disappointing" summers as the weather gods invariably balance things out:(

ArtSmart

Birdnuts wrote: »

The Irish climate is predictable in that mild insipid winters like 2011/12 are usually followed by "disappointing" summers as the weather gods invariably balance things out:(

Great thing 'bout Irish weather is that it's always disappointing.

Even a summer like '95 is disappointing, because you know it won happen again for another 20/30 (60) years.

wazzoraybelle

Cork airport has reported 227mm so far for June!! that's more than Febuary, March, April and May combined. And the equivalent of nearly 20 tonnes of water falling on my house!!

planetX

Birdnuts wrote: »

The Irish climate is predictable in that mild insipid winters like 2011/12 are usually followed by "disappointing" summers as the weather gods invariably balance things out:(

But the exceptionally cold winter of 2010/11 was also followed by a 'disappointing' summer - how is that predictable?

gbee

wazzoraybelle wrote: »

Cork airport has reported 227mm so far for June!! that's more than Febuary, March, April and May combined. And the equivalent of nearly 20 tonnes of water falling on my house!!

My little station says 258mm ~ but I think that includes a few birds attacking it and shaking it about a bit.

mcriot29

planetX wrote: »

Birdnuts wrote: »

The Irish climate is predictable in that mild insipid winters like 2011/12 are usually followed by "disappointing" summers as the weather gods invariably balance things out:(

But the exceptionally cold winter of 2010/11 was also followed by a 'disappointing' summer - how is that predictable?

Good point a lot on here talk crap you have just pointed that out in your point

H2UMrsRobinson

TBH there's been a fair few days when we've felt some really good heat which has been noticeable by its absence in previous summers. Driving home in the evenings especially. Windows down, tunes blaring. Getting my kicks whenever I can this year. Life's not so bad !

pauldry

gbee wrote: »

My little station says 258mm ~ but I think that includes a few birds attacking it and shaking it about a bit.

yeah my wee station recorded 1541mm of rain in November but the cat was up at it. maybe one of your birds was in it.

Have since moved it to an uncatable spot

gbee

pauldry wrote: »

yeah my wee station recorded 1541mm of rain in November but the cat was up at it. maybe one of your birds was in it.

Have since moved it to an uncatable spot

Cats, not seen that on my station, worth putting a cam on it. Good tip.

I also know that RF interferes as well.

Deep Easterly

Unusually, the outer west coast was the 'driest' area of the country in June just gone, with Mace and Belmullet recording the lowest totals anywhere in the country (both under 115mm). Valentia's total a little higher at around 126mm. Fairly high totals over more central regions with around 175mm at Galway, Claremorris and Mullingar; although both Gurteen & Mt. Dillon's totals were closer to 200mm. In the northwest, Markee Castle's 185.6mm was the highest total with a more moderate figures of between 120mm and 130mm at Finner and Castlederg.

Along the east coast, Dublin Apt recorded only 147mm while Belfast did slightly better at 155.6mm, which wasn't enough though to beat Casement's impressive 178mm. In the southeast, Johnstown collected a respectable 192mm (up to the 29th, missing data from yesterday).

Data is incomplete at this stage but seems either Cork Apt or Knock Apt will come in as the wettest stations of June 2012, with both recording in and around 230mm.

Should have put all this into a table. Will do later.

CorkMetMan

Well, what an absolute disaster of a summer month! It turned out to be the second coolest June on record, but that was actually the best part of it.

My rainfall total came to a whopping 202.6 mms, an astonishing total for June, comfortably beating the 'unassailable' 2007 record of 161.1 mms.

Sunshine came to 129.7 hours, by far the lowest June total I've ever recorded.

So very cool, very wet and very dull sums it up.

pauldry

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Unusually, the outer west coast was the 'driest' area of the country in June just gone, with Mace and Belmullet recording the lowest totals anywhere in the country (both under 115mm). Valentia's total a little higher at around 126mm. Fairly high totals over more central regions with around 175mm at Galway, Claremorris and Mullingar; although both Gurteen & Mt. Dillon's totals were closer to 200mm. In the northwest, Markee Castle's 185.6mm was the highest total with a more moderate figures of between 120mm and 130mm at Finner and Castlederg.

Along the east coast, Dublin Apt recorded only 147mm while Belfast did slightly better at 155.6mm, which wasn't enough though to beat Casement's impressive 178mm. In the southeast, Johnstown collected a respectable 192mm (up to the 29th, missing data from yesterday).

Data is incomplete at this stage but seems either Cork Apt or Knock Apt will come in as the wettest stations of June 2012, with both recording in and around 230mm.

Should have put all this into a table. Will do later.

185mm in Markree and 158mm in Sligo town!

Hey DE you should write down a log of peoples reports and put it into your finished table and we would have an all round ireland result for what was a very wet month.

The first week of July is going to continue this theme

Gonzo

easily the wettest and coldest June I can ever remember and there looks to be no let up in this crap weather for the first week/2 weeks of July at least. If this continues all the way through July into August then this summer may well be the worst summer I have ever experienced making the summer of 2007 look good.

mickger844posts

Checking back through Met Eireann data for their Waterford station my total of 202.2mm easily surpasses the previous June high of 156.8mm recorded in June 2007. Without checking other months i would imagine this June is up there with some of the wettest months ever recorded.

Jesus Wept

A grand soft June it was.

Grid.

Lovely start to July!:rolleyes:

Jpmarn

My land in Co Limerick is very wet. Getting very heavy showers this morning.

mcriot29

Grid. wrote: »

Lovely start to July!:rolleyes:

What a nice summers day it is today 12c and rain

Birdnuts

According to the Beeb at lunchtime - this weather pattern will be with us for a few weeks yet:(