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Clare Jobbridge Watch

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  • #2
    dasium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭dasium


    Isn't there a required ratio of full time employees to interns that has to be maintained?


  • #3
    CptSternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭CptSternn


    Nope, under the Jobbridge initiative companies can bring on unlimited 'interns' who work a normal week and have like a fiver added on their dole.

    There was a big thread about this on Politics.ie a while back when it first started. I am an IT worker with over 15 years experiences and I have worked for Microsoft, HP, and IBM. I got letters from FAS through the Jobbridge programme with jobs that would fit my criteria. They wanted Network Engineers and System Architects, roles I have worked in the past, to work for free. The requirements were 10+ years experience, college degree, and a list of certs. Again, I have all that but the idea of me working basically for free just really bothered me. I normally contract out for about €350 - €450 a day, that's what persons with the skillset I have makes a day. To have companies basically trying to get us to work for free doing the same top level work to 'add to our CV' is offensive. My CV is brilliant and needs no padding.

    It's not just me. There were architects, electrical engineers, archivists, and a long list of other highly skilled professionals who spoke up about this on the aforementioned forums.

    This Jobbridge programme will cause more harm than good. Why would any company bring on new staff when they can simply get free staff for the government? If finding work in this economy wasn't hard enough, now we have to add free internships to the list of competition we are fighting against (plus other out of work professionals, recent college grads, and incoming migrant EU citizens).


  • #4
    Nevermind_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭Nevermind_


    CptSternn wrote: »
    Nope, under the Jobbridge initiative companies can bring on unlimited 'interns' who work a normal week and have like a fiver added on their dole.

    sorry but thats not the case a company cant hire "unlimited interns"
    http://www.jobbridge.ie/EmployerEligible.aspx
    A friend of mine started an internship and got kept on at the end of it at a fairly decent wage so it can work!
    but some of the positions advertised are taking the piss with some companies just looking for free labour
    Carazy wrote:
    Are these hotels not making enough to pay these people at least the minimum wage
    Doonbeg has lost money every year since it opened it is being subsidised by its parent company Kiawah Island in the U.S.


  • #5
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Nevermind_ wrote: »
    sorry but thats not the case a company cant hire "unlimited interns"
    http://www.jobbridge.ie/EmployerEligible.aspx
    A friend of mine started an internship and got kept on at the end of it at a fairly decent wage so it can work!
    but some of the positions advertised are taking the piss with some companies just looking for free labour


    Doonbeg has lost money every year since it opened it is being subsidised by its parent company Kiawah Island in the U.S.
    Jobbridge can work but Doonbeg taking on 4 ''interns'' for nothing during the summer period raises serious questions regardless of them loosing money or not.


  • #6
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    schemes like fas and jobbridge suck what could have been a paid job advertised right out of the community,they are a burden to the state and should be shut down,on the principle that they create unemployment,they make unemployment black holes in the job market where there should be payed work filled.
    if a company can turn around and use job bridge as opposed to hire you via the traditional route,and they use this soley as a means to make more margin profit..
    abuse of these schemes is rife,ive been on them and i can say there the biggest waste of time too,people who look at your cv and see jobbridge work for 9 months could easily laugh you out the door..


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  • #7
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Now even Dromoland Castle are in on the gig, a complete joke
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DFlyEV1hzRHWPVYco9rMIeOGoMNolArnvnzdXpUh/z+v0bIurRsWHLvXUqNqjFgHwyvQgNVMfcrOfW5KfxRZ29zJE0I02fKhfXpWLIiBQUygwQgdnZiFRNiDwfDN9R6MxPhUk1hT6rihLD7rAZlFZWR5WcUsb1ufOdNEDRwiZb6+yIw3F/vFYZQswU/iwxL25NvMo7Jg9NU7htHLg151fkVmBSXlqRVnd8gHDypn36FIDk45cwQQrm+0+6VTthE7onxtlQvn73Y/kd7Yh1FXZ9fMIRA0aG6Ht4QltI5TOXKCSMvrJyYuDwnH1dii3anP4x5bc3YHRZr/u+8eiehqdjFFqjVVuKwOcXGrExCeDb6/Op762ghJmFmVCdMpHGbh6rxnCZp/vjwZzxeta+5Z46TUQ654VYwacxHUuhmrQ1vDKz9ZJlvlQCQ=
    Receptionist - Junior Position
    Description
    The intern will gain practical experience in Front Office department. Meeting and greeting guests, check in/check out, telephone duties along with organising activities for the guest. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - one day induction programme following by departmental operational training. On completion the intern will have attained skills in guests care, computer and telephone skills.

    Employer
    Dromoland Castle
    Newmarket-on-Fergus
    Co. Clare


  • #8
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Truly scandalous and shocking..REALLY.. I remember seeing those positions as a paid advertised postion a girl i knew used to apply for that job advertised some years back and it was a paid position..

    How job bridge changes things in the jobs market,sucking jobs out of the community should be up for discussion in the dail,ive seen schemes like this create unemployment,by taking a job like that you are encouraging them to hog up more of what could be paid jobs,the more popular they get,if you allow them the more unemployment they create..

    best thing to do is not sign up if enough people adopt this approach,this scheme will hopefully die a death in front of joan burton minister for creating unemployment..

    Ive been on one of these free labour schemes(the fas one),and it took 2-3 ce workers to replace one paid worker,she got pushed out of her job,we were there to replace her..

    These schemes arent monitored(i suppose that would cost more money to an already expensive burden),i think it would be best to close these schemes down as we dont need more unemployment in this recession..


  • #9
    CptSternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭CptSternn


    Let me clarify my views here -

    I think the idea is a good one, HOWEVER I think they need to vet the applicants better.

    Some jobs do need interns and an internship is a great way to get experience. That being said if the 'internship' requires a four year college degree and over ten years previous work experiences, it is NOT an internship.

    Entry level jobs are also NOT internships. You don't need to work in a chipper or work the till at a supermarket for a year before you get a job there doing just that. Same goes for pretty much all hotel staff. Those jobs in the past have never required years of previous inter experience, and they don't require it today.

    If you say wanted to go into graphic design, some form of engineering, the legal profession, or even go into plumbing or a more manual form of employment, then I fully support the scheme.

    It's just right now looking at the website there seems to be many companies who are abusing the system and either getting free top level workers or bypassing entry level workers to get free labour and in the process are flooding the already depressed job market with free labour making the current economic situation even worse.


  • #10
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    For example Clare Spring water have a job advertised on Jobridge that will give the intern will recieve formal/informal training in Product Labelling. You need a 9 month intern to label a bottle of water now!!!!
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DNpR5ZfuJN+OUk1eB1VODepPg+EZXW/94X6dD6vickDlcVGRr//zZJJthu/zFDl9OBhor3Skl96V8uyvbyrrh0Ue9wetq5auzHjjmIrfjNaD08k9RdiUHFXUpaGd+xeFalX7ifqfrKQEFAIG83YAEsmGHHbLnG62ytGjmg3XM6KbeZOMWk+M1czwQnA8HR/MRTYEsGKA8pmNStip2mEnfPI4u6cpRelAS/OIpIlYId0i5BSToN/lFYYNAaSQd2nyG3NKIcORRB9OZPqWQictrhGmG0W5qpXPtYMvWVlzTAh1bJzt2YnSqc9OoXH4he3pCEAAFXnXBuZceX7HNFRumwH7/EY7Ili/wwCG21qUrTzoTrS0eBBXamKYQPaYtD2s5X3ItiS0GaAHeQv0M4yE8ltDhQv1jG6rPH06C4+Ph8AwPwudDJXzSGc=


  • #11
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Internships

    Job Title Location Salary Date

    Technical Writer Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Hair Salon Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Administration Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Purchasing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Bar Manager

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Clinical Therapies Administrator

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Trainee Projects Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Sales & Marketing Executive

    LIMERICK CITY € 15/06/2012

    Photographic Technician

    LIMERICK CITY € 15/06/2012

    Account Administration Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 14/06/2012

    Map Sales Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 14/06/2012

    Practice Manager Assistant

    CLAREVIEW € 13/06/2012

    Learning Support Worker

    LIMERICK CITY € 13/06/2012

    Marketing Executive

    LIMERICK CITY € 12/06/2012

    Public Relations & Marketing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 11/06/2012

    Evening Caretaker

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Administration/Secretary

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Laboratory Technician

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Hotel Sales & Marketing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 06/06/2012

    Marketing & Accounts Administration

    LIMERICK CITY € 05/06/2012

    Commis Chef

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 01/06/2012

    Concierge Assistant

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 01/06/2012

    Project Co-Ordinator Limerick Open House Event

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    CAD Technician

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Sales Admin Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    GIS Support Person

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Human Resources Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Lean Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Technical Support Engineer

    DOCK ROAD € 28/05/2012

    Assistant Catering Officer

    LIMERICK CITY € 28/05/2012


    Just copied and pasted off off jobbridge.ie,and half the jobs as you can see (in limerick),from here could very well be paid trainees or employees,gone are those days thanks to that job blocker job bridge..


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  • #12
    CptSternn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭CptSternn


    Does it take 9 months of internship to sell maps? Really?


  • #13
    Hawk Wing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Hawk Wing 2


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Internships

    Job Title Location Salary Date

    Technical Writer Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Hair Salon Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Administration Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 19/06/2012

    Purchasing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Bar Manager

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Clinical Therapies Administrator

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Trainee Projects Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 18/06/2012

    Sales & Marketing Executive

    LIMERICK CITY € 15/06/2012

    Photographic Technician

    LIMERICK CITY € 15/06/2012

    Account Administration Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 14/06/2012

    Map Sales Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 14/06/2012

    Practice Manager Assistant

    CLAREVIEW € 13/06/2012

    Learning Support Worker

    LIMERICK CITY € 13/06/2012

    Marketing Executive

    LIMERICK CITY € 12/06/2012

    Public Relations & Marketing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 11/06/2012

    Evening Caretaker

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Administration/Secretary

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Laboratory Technician

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 11/06/2012

    Hotel Sales & Marketing Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 06/06/2012

    Marketing & Accounts Administration

    LIMERICK CITY € 05/06/2012

    Commis Chef

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 01/06/2012

    Concierge Assistant

    ENNIS ROAD AREA € 01/06/2012

    Project Co-Ordinator Limerick Open House Event

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    CAD Technician

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Sales Admin Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    GIS Support Person

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Human Resources Assistant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Lean Consultant

    LIMERICK CITY € 30/05/2012

    Technical Support Engineer

    DOCK ROAD € 28/05/2012

    Assistant Catering Officer

    LIMERICK CITY € 28/05/2012


    Just copied and pasted off off jobbridge.ie,and half the jobs as you can see (in limerick),from here could very well be paid trainees or employees,gone are those days thanks to that job blocker job bridge..
    complete pisstake in many cases


  • #14
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    all those advertised could have been paid jobs,and theres people who say there the best thing to happen to ireland? these schemes create unemployment blackspots anywhere they go,and they seem to target the most vunerable working classes and non working..

    joan burton handing out free labour workers to big businesses setting up in ireland?MAD and STUPID in my opinion,ya it is a complete pisstake.

    But theres people who will allege youre a waster for not wanting to do free labour,people should only look for paid work and hopefully these schemes will die a death..


  • #15
    cakeisgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭cakeisgood


    The jobsbridge scheme can be valuable for gaining experience but I feel that why not pay someone properly if you obviously have a vacancy in the first place? The college I went to has an internship for a Cafe assistant. What a joke! Its just a way for companies to get 9 months cheap labor. The companies pay nothing, the extra fifty euro the participants get comes from social welfare...a system that is already burdened to the maximum


  • #16
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Wigoders Ennis/Ennis Wallpaper and Print in Tesco shopping centre looking for a free worker.
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DBt/5CHrKgMTZsATBxDJEmmUnQxVVvLmV8Lq149zVQjzXzN9xXKkqCpNXpCCitWyDLaCRh2IC3ViTwWb7eY6D9ZCaRvk0l6vgj4WUx3h3GOS2zk3pL/vnKD79oVH5nx+kl7/86VDXTKBJ6wTSAqQIWt3SfMnWxIRc5tjxrD44Kw9vT9R9Oao81FmHLISKIVEAM7dDpjbmq0o9U+n2RWDn8WRIp8puRGKHAX9G1l/9x//PgloWLhVULEguGhkHkfL+jMUb6uWLBMFC9WWdN5c9HgUHAwJ0mW6CAD8yc3BUkLWQVGXAdW+Z/vt0mNdL0viKuU2s7vtuUkhH2Fe2Xm2qEx2gBSm6+ygJ6ERSZxS7Bv8eolLeVGIR00huRH7HQVn6xFnOIGtIqyM651dg2NNP8syTO4I0Bk1mqCXcnIT7gfEff6vFMjj2Rw=
    A sales assistant (does it really take 9 months to learn this)
    On completion the intern will have attained skills in selling techniques, preparation of paints and decoration products, they will be able to advise customers on the best product for their needs and have an understanding of working in a retail store.


  • #17
    Hawk Wing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Hawk Wing 2


    Carazy wrote: »
    Wigoders Ennis/Ennis Wallpaper and Print in Tesco shopping centre looking for a free worker.
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DBt/5CHrKgMTZsATBxDJEmmUnQxVVvLmV8Lq149zVQjzXzN9xXKkqCpNXpCCitWyDLaCRh2IC3ViTwWb7eY6D9ZCaRvk0l6vgj4WUx3h3GOS2zk3pL/vnKD79oVH5nx+kl7/86VDXTKBJ6wTSAqQIWt3SfMnWxIRc5tjxrD44Kw9vT9R9Oao81FmHLISKIVEAM7dDpjbmq0o9U+n2RWDn8WRIp8puRGKHAX9G1l/9x//PgloWLhVULEguGhkHkfL+jMUb6uWLBMFC9WWdN5c9HgUHAwJ0mW6CAD8yc3BUkLWQVGXAdW+Z/vt0mNdL0viKuU2s7vtuUkhH2Fe2Xm2qEx2gBSm6+ygJ6ERSZxS7Bv8eolLeVGIR00huRH7HQVn6xFnOIGtIqyM651dg2NNP8syTO4I0Bk1mqCXcnIT7gfEff6vFMjj2Rw=
    A sales assistant (does it really take 9 months to learn this)
    outrageous, seriously like


  • #18
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Another Jobbridge scheme which should not take 9 months to learn and become proficient in...........

    Topbike, Ennis
    Bicycles Sales & Repairs Assistant
    The intern will gain practical experience in using the cash register, dealing with customers and repairing bicycles The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; manual handling, bicycle repairs, customer service the importance and the appearance of the shop appearance. On completion the intern will have attained skills in all aspects of dealing with customers how to work on own initiative how to work under pressure

    Link: http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DHjB8k+DW/WZJ8XqVsVDbLsVhfwrWJYu26DEkIGENTlbvWUIrKAaYlF35a0IifCYSLkE5tn5L3Re3x/RN+UdCx8LLfL8xFiI3JHKfuQHwrFcKvuZtbJk5rpfnXd8ic5muUFoiBlOouydifSE405p3yb2zMKx2LK7s0JmKh9wax7A7l69JNSFrIWi8OpAmRpBvNSTAE/JhdQeni30vcLQIabUG076m+81RioY9nv3wPf+EaAFKOoibP2nCvAFmjeLeaAkyIsc6+IaDUuQFN9OH2UiJOyG1BquCOSSEcmdrF9UTIb+Pk7Ht0SlBkc6r0eofNRyJgqvslReOMZF6AEyLitl8T1KUghV6yo75tcYsJzMryREw9vGVeMLazgedIsh7gLq7xEWiNsJSi2O842PECX7sdRmAuB3kyvPkP8O1MWDNXGJDFdApOI=


  • #19
    JustLen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭JustLen


    Taking the pi55


  • #20
    johnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭johnam


    Carazy wrote: »
    Another Jobbridge scheme which should not take 9 months to learn and become proficient in...........

    Topbike, Ennis
    Bicycles Sales & Repairs Assistant


    Link: http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DHjB8k+DW/WZJ8XqVsVDbLsVhfwrWJYu26DEkIGENTlbvWUIrKAaYlF35a0IifCYSLkE5tn5L3Re3x/RN+UdCx8LLfL8xFiI3JHKfuQHwrFcKvuZtbJk5rpfnXd8ic5muUFoiBlOouydifSE405p3yb2zMKx2LK7s0JmKh9wax7A7l69JNSFrIWi8OpAmRpBvNSTAE/JhdQeni30vcLQIabUG076m+81RioY9nv3wPf+EaAFKOoibP2nCvAFmjeLeaAkyIsc6+IaDUuQFN9OH2UiJOyG1BquCOSSEcmdrF9UTIb+Pk7Ht0SlBkc6r0eofNRyJgqvslReOMZF6AEyLitl8T1KUghV6yo75tcYsJzMryREw9vGVeMLazgedIsh7gLq7xEWiNsJSi2O842PECX7sdRmAuB3kyvPkP8O1MWDNXGJDFdApOI=


    I'm not in anyway linked to that shop, and fine I agree with you that learning how to operate a cash register won't take 9 months, but the bicycle repair part would. Check out the cycling forums, people are always asking where to get experience in bicycle repairs, and the only options are working for free for a shop, or doing an expensive course usually in Dublin. The thing is, when you are on the dole, struggling to pay your mortgage etc, how can you justify paying money to do a course and put yourself up in Dublin, 9 more months on the dole, living at home, while learning the skills for free, with the possibility of gaining full time employment at the end....not too many drawbacks there. I wish people would quit bitching about this scheme, realise that yes it does get abused, but that it is designed for people who have no experience, who want to learn the skills and who are willing to be proactive to try get off the dole.


  • #21
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    So do topbike even service bikes or have someone qualified in-store in the first place to teach the newbie?


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  • #22
    johnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭johnam


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    So do topbike even service bikes or have someone qualified in-store in the first place to teach the newbie?


    I have not been to their new shop, but I used their old shop quite a bit, the guy seems to be a cyclist himself, and knows his stuff about bikes. What qualification he has, I don't know, but he seems to have the experience and knowledge to be able to train anyone who is in anyway interested. He always seemed to work on his own in the old shop, fixing bikes in the back, and dealing with customers out front.


  • #23
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Is this not banner motor factors, or am I thinking of the wrong place?


  • #24
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I think its the place next to the old One Mile, next to the petrol station next to the round about.

    For what it's worth, I know someone who used to work in Tierney's when he was younger (weekends/evenings/summers) and he reckons it'd take longer than 9 months to get fully trained on all bikes now, it's almost like a car mechanic.


  • #25
    johnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭johnam


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Is this not banner motor factors, or am I thinking of the wrong place?

    started there, but have moved out the lahinch road, beside the esso station / old one mile inn
    Clareman wrote: »
    I think its the place next to the old One Mile, next to the petrol station next to the round about.

    For what it's worth, I know someone who used to work in Tierney's when he was younger (weekends/evenings/summers) and he reckons it'd take longer than 9 months to get fully trained on all bikes now, it's almost like a car mechanic.

    I'm sure it would take longer than 9 months, there is a lot involved, and also a lot of different brands all designed slightly differently.


  • #26
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Lynch's Centra (aka Shiels')

    Position: Shop Assistant
    Number of Positions: 2
    Duration: 9 months
    Department: Shop Floor

    Description
    The intern will gain practical experience in: stock control. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: stock layout, health & safety, stock control and customer service. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: customer / staff liaison and retail.

    Please Note:
    This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above


    Link: Lynch's Centra Shop Assistant ''Internship''

    How to Apply
    Applicants should click on the link below to download the application form. Complete and send by email to: payroll@centralynchs.com


  • #27
    Hawk Wing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Hawk Wing 2


    Carazy wrote: »
    Lynch's Centra (aka Shiels')

    Position: Shop Assistant
    Number of Positions: 2
    Duration: 9 months
    Department: Shop Floor

    Description
    The intern will gain practical experience in: stock control. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: stock layout, health & safety, stock control and customer service. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: customer / staff liaison and retail.

    Please Note:
    This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above


    Link: Lynch's Centra Shop Assistant ''Internship''

    How to Apply
    Applicants should click on the link below to download the application form. Complete and send by email to: payroll@centralynchs.com

    this makes my blood boil, thats 2 proper jobs for 2 people


  • #28
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    An internship for a Builders Labourer!!!!!......really... anyway contact Brian Marrinan Construction Lissycasey.
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/General Operative/Labourer

    Internship for a BARMAN in ths Spinnaker Lahinch
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Barman

    Kellys Korner looking for a intern to work on the tills and stocking newspapers here
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Sales Assistant


  • #29
    Bench Press
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Bench Press


    Carazy wrote: »
    An internship for a Builders Labourer!!!!!......really... anyway contact Brian Marrinan Construction Lissycasey.
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/General Operative/Labourer

    Internship for a BARMAN in ths Spinnaker Lahinch
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Barman

    Kellys Korner looking for a intern to work on the tills and stocking newspapers here
    http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Sales Assistant

    Outrageous behaviour


  • #30
    golden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭golden8


    How can they get away with it!!!


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  • #31
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    golden8 wrote: »
    How can they get away with it!!!

    They aren't really getting away with anything, it might seem strange to people in a job but when you've nothing to do you're willing to do stuff for nothing just so you have something to do. Throw in the fact that all 3 positions would be a great thing to have on a CV or a trade to have and they are actually providing a service and I'm sure that the 3 people who get the positions will be delighted.


  • #32
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    I think the Job Bridge scheme is being used by some businesses as a source of cheap labour and in some cases it is being abused. Tesco came in for a lot of criticism a while back when they placed adverts on the Job Bridge site looking for shelf stalkers for Christmas. A company as profitable as Tesco can afford to create proper jobs and in my view shouldn't be using the scheme for entry level positions.

    I think that it is a bit much to expect someone to work as general labourer for an extra €50 a week :eek: It would be completely different if someone was learning a particular trade. I'm not sure why anyone would want this role anyway, even if they gain some experience, when would they get another opportunity to apply it, the construction industry in this country is dead.

    As for the bar person and shop positions, these types of positions would be great for transition year students who need work experience. God be with the old days....... When I was 16, I worked part-time in a shop and imagine what....... I was paid for it!


  • #33
    golden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭golden8


    Clareman wrote: »
    They aren't really getting away with anything, it might seem strange to people in a job but when you've nothing to do you're willing to do stuff for nothing just so you have something to do. Throw in the fact that all 3 positions would be a great thing to have on a CV or a trade to have and they are actually providing a service and I'm sure that the 3 people who get the positions will be delighted.


    The like Mrs D mentioned in some cases it is abused, these cases they blatantly are. I would sooner work for free in a charity and have done than to work for someone who is abusing the system.


  • #34
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Who ever wants a nice 9 month internship to work in a chipper in Ennistymon contact;
    Link=Catering Assistant
    CATERING ASSISTANT
    Based in ENNISTYMON Ref. INTE-761625

    Description
    The intern will gain practical experience in Customer Service, Cash Handling, Food and Hygiene. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Food preparation and cooking. On completion the intern will have attained skills in running a Fast Food Outlet and Food Preparation.
    Skills Requirements
    Ability to use own initiative, use common sense, good people skills, ability to process orders and work in a fast food industry.
    How to Apply
    Please forward CV to linda.walsh000@gmail.com
    Please Note:
    This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.
    Duration
    9 Months
    Hours per week -30


  • #35
    Carazy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    An internship for a Waiting Staff in Killaloe
    Link = Waiting Staff - Killaloe =
    Waiting Staff
    Based in Killaloe Ref. INTE-814551

    Description
    The intern will gain practical experience in: Waiting on table, taking orders, dealing with customers. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Setting and clearing tables, HACCAP, Barista, customer services, cash flow, culinary skills. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: Restaurant skills including customer service, culinary skills, some baking skills, barista coffee making skills, money management.
    Skills Requirements
    Hard working. Works on own just as good as part of a team.
    How to Apply
    Please forward CV to Noreen.stritch@gmail.com
    Please Note:
    This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.
    Duration
    9 Months
    Hours per week = 40


  • #36
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Last two there are a disgrace. Is this nonsense policed or is the entire scheme just an out-and-out mockery?

    As much as I despise sloth and lack of ambition, I hate greed and exploitation more. The government should quickly get on top of this or drop it altogether.


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  • #37
    hotbabe1992
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 602 ✭✭✭hotbabe1992


    Whats worse topper is that these schemes ruin the jobs market,effectively converting what could have been paid work into unpaid work,they undermine the jobs market while fiddling the true statistics on the unemployed.Remember there is not just job bridge there is fas and tus and solas,wpp1,wpp2,community services programme(cps),revenue job assist,job initiative scheme..I think there are so many of these job scam ''job'' agencies,so much so that i think it needs cleaning up.
    “But the figures also demonstrate the emphasis I’ve placed since becoming Minister on transforming the Department from the passive benefits provider of old to one that is actively assisting people back to work, training and education. Our service does not stop at merely providing a jobseeker’s payment to somebody who is out of work. We also provide the employment supports to help that person back into work, training or education. That is why we spent over €950 million last year on schemes such as Community Employment, Tús, JobBridge, and the Back to Work and Back to Education Allowances.”


    AND...What was spent on job bridge alone:
    ''An estimated €54.73 million was spent on JobBridge, the national internship scheme.''


    http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2013/07/2-2-million-people-benefit-from-social-welfare-payments/?cat=144


  • #38
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    €54.73m is a mental figure hotbabe when you consider that, to a large extent, this is the taxpayer getting the hit for private citizens' labour bills. Breaks all the laws of ethics, economics, and good government.

    Fair enough for internships in biopharmacy or nanotechnology that involves a payoff down the line to the exchequer in terms of creating quality jobs through FDI. But for training people how to clean tables and use a cash register?


  • #39
    ger664
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭ger664


    I hope people realise the cost associated with creating a job even at min wage. Yes companies are using the Internship to gain cheap labour but what's the alternative. Employ them at full costs and have to increase the cost of their services to fund this. The cost of Labour in Ireland is too high, mainly due to the Min wage been set to high and USC/PRSI and particularly Employers PRSI are a killer.


  • #40
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    I know its not cheap to hire a worker, hence the laws of economics say you only hire when it adds to your business. NO entrepreneur 'creates' jobs as some sort of patriotic duty. Nobody is entitled to be in business in the same way as nobody is entitled to be in a job. A business must make a profit or else fold. A worker must add value to the business in excess of the wage they are paid or they will be let go.

    It's odd to see the infamous 'sense of entitlement' being expressed from the entrepreneur side rather than from workers for once.

    So if the cafe needs workers, the workers must be paid. If the sums don't add up then there is something fundamentally wrong and another business should take its place(either another more efficient cafe business or another business entirely) .

    Also worth noting that consumers have no entitlement to cheap goods. The market mechanism means the goods or services are only available to those who can afford them. If prices need to rise as a reflection of the price of the 'factor of production', in this case labour, then so be it.

    The market mechanism is all a balancing act and to work properly demands fluidity with prices and availability of the factors of production. This is what government should be pushing for. The 'invisible hand' of the market takes care of everything else.

    Ireland's recent economic history is blighted by intransigence in this regard. Sticky prices, sticky rents, sticky wages leading to job losses, and all this exacerbated by a nasty and prolonged crunch despite the ECB's efforts to practically give money away. The markets want to make their corrections but people won't let them, insisting on ignoring the fact that conditions are not what they were in 2007. The most blatant offender here is rent and rates on retail premises in all our major towns and cities. Too many unoccupied units, this in turn, with loss of footfall on streets is a self-reinforcing downward spiral.


  • #41
    ger664
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭ger664


    topper I totally agree with your sentiments above. The tone of this thread generally was oh look at the big fat cat rich employer taking advantage of the cheap labour scheme. The facts as you have outlined show that many Self Employed/ Small Business are struggling and while it may look like greedy employers taking advantage, in this climate for some its probably the only break that they are getting.
    From an employers point of view I think its a C*** scheme as it does not address the real issues facing the service/sme sector in Ireland, which if giving the right environment can produce the jobs needed in the economy.


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