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Noises from next door

  • 15-06-2012 8:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭


    I recently moved into a semi-detached in a small town. My neighbours seem like good people, they are a young couple with a baby and in general noise levels are low.

    But upstairs, when people open and close doors, cupboards, wardrobes etc, you can hear this. I'm a very light sleeper and this tends to wake me. Last night there was high winds, and I think that their room that mine backs onto had a window left open. The result was a wardrobe door bumping all night. Drove me crazy and today, I am like a zombie in work.

    I'm new to urban living having been rural all my life so I could use some advice on this one. Firstly I am new to the house so I havn't actually met these neighbours yet. I dont want to annoy anyone either.

    How would you approach this? Would you ask them to ??? I dunno, what? (can I really ask people to close their wardrobe doors quietly? that seems annoying)

    Are there any practical things I can do in my place to reduce noise. All I need is a good nights sleep, after that I dont mind.

    Many thanks for any advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Ear plugs.

    You can't really ask people to keep quiet when they're going about typical activities. Music at night or parties would be one thing, but mundane things like open/closing doors and presses, not so much.

    Particularly if they have a young child, they will be up at all hours doing things in the house, that's unavoidable.

    Really the only thing you can do is to wear earplugs when you sleep. In some cases people also find that having white noise on in the room when you sleep can help as it drowns out any external noise.

    If you complain to the neighbours, you will sound petty and unreasonable :)

    Over time you will actually get more used to sleeping with urban noise, but for the time being ear plugs should help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    seamus wrote: »
    Ear plugs.

    You can't really ask people to keep quiet when they're going about typical activities. Music at night or parties would be one thing, but mundane things like open/closing doors and presses, not so much.

    Particularly if they have a young child, they will be up at all hours doing things in the house, that's unavoidable.

    Really the only thing you can do is to wear earplugs when you sleep. In some cases people also find that having white noise on in the room when you sleep can help as it drowns out any external noise.

    If you complain to the neighbours, you will sound petty and unreasonable :)

    Over time you will actually get more used to sleeping with urban noise, but for the time being ear plugs should help.

    Thanks Seamus,

    I remember ear plugs from before. They were uncomfortable and made my head hot. The sound of your breathing and movement is amplified in your own head and I just hated them. Maybe there are better ones these days. I'll look into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Is it a piece of crap semi-d slapped up during the property boom?
    Lived in one for a while - if it was quiet you could tell whether they were standing up or sitting down using the toilet next door. You can imagine all other noises sounded like they were in the room with you.

    Quies ear plugs on standby.
    But basically just move to a house built by real builders from actual building materials as soon as you can. Living in a cosy, non-drafty, low noise house now and would never go back to one of those boom-built playhouses. I pity the people stuck with them, hope you're renting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭piperh


    I agree it may come across as petty to ask them to close doors quietly ect but you could introduce yourself and say very politely you hope your not disturbing them as you've noticed how thin the walls are.

    If your house has been empty for a while it might be that they've forgotten how much noise travels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    dnme wrote: »
    Thanks Seamus,

    I remember ear plugs from before. They were uncomfortable and made my head hot. The sound of your breathing and movement is amplified in your own head and I just hated them. Maybe there are better ones these days. I'll look into it.

    Modern ear plugs are better. I remember those heavy wax ones too..Dreadful. I have ME and at times hearing is utterly painful. Ear plugs are my lifeline.

    The noise at the street markets I trade at can be appalling. And agricultural noise too.

    The best I have are from a creamery/co-op, where they sell ear protectors for builders and welders., Neatly packed in pairs for 50cents. I cover them in a single fine layer of tissue to keep them clean in use.

    Have some from a pharmacy for 20 cents each too. Better than the dearer ones,

    Yes breathing can sound a little louder but better than the noise levels you have now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,127 ✭✭✭kirving


    It may not just be the house either. You say you are new to urban living. I live beside a busy road, and although my house was built to a reasonable standad, I can hear cars that pass by.

    I'm totally used to it though, so I tune it out and it never bothers me. When I'm in a quieter house or down the country, I hate the silence and find it hard to sleep. Any little noise out of the ordinary silence annoys me.

    I think it's something you'll quickly get used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It may not just be the house either. You say you are new to urban living. I live beside a busy road, and although my house was built to a reasonable standad, I can hear cars that pass by.

    I'm totally used to it though, so I tune it out and it never bothers me. When I'm in a quieter house or down the country, I hate the silence and find it hard to sleep. Any little noise out of the ordinary silence annoys me.

    I think it's something you'll quickly get used to.

    The way we adapt is amazing.. For me this has been a perennial issue and I seek silence as I seek food. Thankfully I am a very early riser so get the quiet hours at that end of the day. Then in go the ear plugs....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Many thanks to all for the great responses.

    The house is well built. There is solid concrete wall between me and neighbour. Also the house is part of 4 (2 blocks of 2) right in at the back of the estate. Not overlooked, backs onto fields and the railway line (which does not bother me at all).

    You cannot hear neighbours talk, or their tele or their bathroom or anything like. Its just that upstairs you can hear doors, closets etc. I reckon any part of the woodwork. So at night time as they potter about in their rooms, I can only hear the doors bumping. They start at 8, 8:30am on weekends so I cant even get a lie in on a Sat or Sunday morning. Last night there was bumping all night so I am assuming they left a window open and high winds caused a wardrobe door to open/close a bit. It drove me insane.

    I just think, door buffers, (you know those little sticky backed velvet stops) would help us all enormously. I'd pay for them etc But how would I approach the neighbour and offer these to him without seeming like an anal retentive psychopath?

    On the ear plugs....How do you wake up on a work morning when using them? Wont they prevent me from hearing my alarm (which is fairly low as I dont need a loud sound to wake and I dont want it to wake anyone else).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    dnme wrote: »
    Many thanks to all for the great responses.

    The house is well built. There is solid concrete wall between me and neighbour. Also the house is part of 4 (2 blocks of 2) right in at the back of the estate. Not overlooked, backs onto fields and the railway line (which does not bother me at all).

    You cannot hear neighbours talk, or their tele or their bathroom or anything like. Its just that upstairs you can hear doors, closets etc. I reckon any part of the woodwork. So at night time as they potter about in their rooms, I can only hear the doors bumping. They start at 8, 8:30am on weekends so I cant even get a lie in on a Sat or Sunday morning. Last night there was bumping all night so I am assuming they left a window open and high winds caused a wardrobe door to open/close a bit. It drove me insane.

    I just think, door buffers, (you know those little sticky backed velvet stops) would help us all enormously. I'd pay for them etc But how would I approach the neighbour and offer these to him without seeming like an anal retentive psychopath?

    On the ear plugs....How do you wake up on a work morning when using them? Wont they prevent me from hearing my alarm (which is fairly low as I dont need a loud sound to wake and I dont want it to wake anyone else).


    I am sure they would understand an alarm going off.. with a baby also..I used when getting up very early to study put mine under the edge of the pillow so it vibrated near my head.

    I think nothing you can do re their noise; try to adapt?

    Is the house not made so you can sleep in a room away from the dividing wall?

    Sleep deprivation is appalling...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Graces7 wrote: »
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    I am sure they would understand an alarm going off.. with a baby also..I used when getting up very early to study put mine under the edge of the pillow so it vibrated near my head.

    I think nothing you can do re their noise; try to adapt?

    Is the house not made so you can sleep in a room away from the dividing wall?

    Sleep deprivation is appalling...

    No, I notice that a lot of these semi-detached houses are designed with door, and stair well on the outside, and the rooms on the inside so the rooms are adjoining (stupid really). I have a choice of 2 rooms to sleep in both of which are adjoining next doors rooms. There is a third box room but I am very tall and cannot fit in the room never mind the tiny single bed literally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


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    No I rent the place. Interesting though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    dnme wrote: »
    Many thanks to all for the great responses.

    The house is well built. There is solid concrete wall between me and neighbour. Also the house is part of 4 (2 blocks of 2) right in at the back of the estate. Not overlooked, backs onto fields and the railway line (which does not bother me at all).

    You cannot hear neighbours talk, or their tele or their bathroom or anything like. Its just that upstairs you can hear doors, closets etc. I reckon any part of the woodwork. So at night time as they potter about in their rooms, I can only hear the doors bumping. They start at 8, 8:30am on weekends so I cant even get a lie in on a Sat or Sunday morning. Last night there was bumping all night so I am assuming they left a window open and high winds caused a wardrobe door to open/close a bit. It drove me insane.

    I just think, door buffers, (you know those little sticky backed velvet stops) would help us all enormously. I'd pay for them etc But how would I approach the neighbour and offer these to him without seeming like an anal retentive psychopath?

    On the ear plugs....How do you wake up on a work morning when using them? Wont they prevent me from hearing my alarm (which is fairly low as I dont need a loud sound to wake and I dont want it to wake anyone else).
    There was a concrete wall between the houses in the last place too, you could smell if they were smoking next door in a bedroom. I'm living mid terrace now and hear practically nothing compared to the noise in the last place. Not a chance you'd hear a wardrobe or cupboard door banging unless someone was trying to break it.
    Just depends on how the place was built and fitted out.


    Maybe you could get talking to them, general chat, friendly neighbour, "I'm not a looper" kinda thing. Lead into "Have you noticed these houses are a bit noisy" "I got these door buffer things that cut down a lot of the loud noises, maybe they'd help ye not wake the baby...." "yeah, actually I've some spare..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    dnme wrote: »
    No, I notice that a lot of these semi-detached houses are designed with door, and stair well on the outside, and the rooms on the inside so the rooms are adjoining (stupid really). I have a choice of 2 rooms to sleep in both of which are adjoining next doors rooms. There is a third box room but I am very tall and cannot fit in the room never mind the tiny single bed literally.

    Ah yes, I grew up in a house like that but I had the boxroom. Image of you lying diagonally with your feet out of the door...;)

    But that was a sound post-war boom house and I never remember hearing anything from next door in any room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    langdang wrote: »
    There was a concrete wall between the houses in the last place too, you could smell if they were smoking next door in a bedroom. I'm living mid terrace now and hear practically nothing compared to the noise in the last place. Not a chance you'd hear a wardrobe or cupboard door banging unless someone was trying to break it.
    Just depends on how the place was built and fitted out.


    Maybe you could get talking to them, general chat, friendly neighbour, "I'm not a looper" kinda thing. Lead into "Have you noticed these houses are a bit noisy" "I got these door buffer things that cut down a lot of the loud noises, maybe they'd help ye not wake the baby...." "yeah, actually I've some spare..."



    They'd think you were loopy!

    A better approach might be to drop or bang something a few times one night then go round and apologise profusely...saying that you know how sound travels in the house. Depends how thick or else they are:)

    Or ask if they are OK as you heard banging and were worried. That last idea does work well..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    The property beside me which has been empty has now got a new family moved in.
    I can hear them having sex at night. It is not nice and very unsettling.
    But they are entitled to the enjoyment of their own home tbf.
    Go to sleep with an Mp3 player ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


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    Snake Oil. Two sheets of plywood with minimal contact between them(because of a small amount of glue) would of course have some sound dampening benefits. But 90% sound loss and heat creation is a farcical claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Graces7 wrote: »
    They'd think you were loopy!
    For cutting down on noise in your house and having had some spare ones?
    Or for talking to them as neighbours?
    Or for noticing that noise travels in the house?
    I dunno about that. But shur I suppose... how about this so:
    Graces7 wrote: »
    Or ask if they are OK as you heard banging and were worried. That last idea does work well..
    Then they'll just think you're a creep with an unhealthy interest in their sexual activities!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    I think that light sleepers are better off living anywhere else other than in appartments and semis.

    The alternative is to say something to them.... but immediately you've complicated their lives and introduced an unpleasantness when they actually haven't done anything wrong.

    It is best never... NEVER... to complain to neighbours unless it's a life and death sort of situation!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I think that light sleepers are better off living anywhere else other than in appartments and semis.

    The alternative is to say something to them.... but immediately you've complicated their lives and introduced an unpleasantness when they actually haven't done anything wrong.

    It is best never... NEVER... to complain to neighbours unless it's a life and death sort of situation!

    Amen to this.

    But sleep deprivation is a serious matter.

    We once lived near a lovely old couple across the fields. We were on very good terms with them.

    When summer nights came, their collie, always chained at the front of the house. started barking all night. Every time sleep came near, bark, bark, bark..

    We talked about what to do without upsetting the old ones. We knew one of them was deaf so the chances were that with double glazing, they had not heard the dog.

    That morning, I drove round, asking were they OK and did they need anything as we had heard the dog and were worried and concerned for them.

    They were mortified and upset; as we had realised, they had not heard the dog and had no idea. As we had realised - and our old collie is the same and now sleeps in the shed so we can get some sleep - the dog had been hearing and seeing critters and barking at them.

    So they moved the dog to the back of the house at nights and all was well.

    But we were already on very good terms with them. It is a hard way to start a relationship with a noise issue.

    Maybe see if the ear plugs help enough to let you acclimatise to the new sounds around you? Get a good sleep at weekends with them?

    Some here suggest making a lot of noise on your side as they may not realise how sound travels. You said you did not want your alarm to wake anyone else; maybe alter that idea.

    Blessings and peace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Many houses built in the last ten years have badly fitted or low levels of sound insulation .IT would cost very little to put sound insulation in one room, if you are good at diy.
    Get the owners permission.if you are renting older buildings ,with brick walls are generally better than a semi d.
    MY friends house is about 20 years old, in semi d.
    ITS almost impossible to hear any noise from house next door ,very good sound insulation.
    ie you put up wooden frame ,, then, a few inches of soundproofing material, cover with plasterboard
    although when you come from the country, you are used to silence
    at night.
    cover with plasterboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭andrewg82


    an aul set of ear plugs and you will be sorted! zzzzz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Download some white noise sounds, like ocean waves, and either play them through your computer or put them on you mp3 player in a speaker dock. Play them at top volume when you want to sleep and they should cancel out a lot of the noise coming from nextdoor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Ahh the beach lounge will do that for sure... Listen to the sounds of this and you will be asleep in minutes.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    iguana wrote: »
    Download some white noise sounds, like ocean waves, and either play them through your computer or put them on you mp3 player in a speaker dock. Play them at top volume when you want to sleep and they should cancel out a lot of the noise coming from nextdoor.

    Does not work if you have sensitive hearing and simply adds to the issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Well its 9am on Sunday morning. I've had a fcuking weekend of it. They had me awake yesterday morning at 7:30am pottering about for ages upstairs. So last night I decided to try the tiny box room. This is the only room that is away from the adjoining wall. I squeezed into the tiny single bed, my feet embedded into the wall. Managed to get to sleep. 7:15am this morning I am woken to doors, walking, wardrobes etc. All the usual. Just goes to show, the walls are not necessarily the complete problem. These wooden first floors carry the noise and IMO they even amplify it.

    I'm really groggy, sleep deprivation. Starting to loose my temper and bang doors here etc. That's not good. It's not their fault, it's the fault of badly built houses. I want to be able to get a nights sleep and have a lie on at the weekends. So I reckon I'll have to move. Someone said earlier, that if you are a light sleeper, you should live in a detached dwelling. That's a fair point.

    I have actually ordered ear plugs. But Ive used them before and don't like them. They make you hot, they are uncomfortable, you can still hear some noises no matter what and they make the inside of your head, your breathing etc loud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    dnme wrote: »
    Thanks Seamus,

    I remember ear plugs from before. They were uncomfortable and made my head hot. The sound of your breathing and movement is amplified in your own head and I just hated them. Maybe there are better ones these days. I'll look into it.


    If you don't want to go the whole hog with earplugs, a little plug of cotton wool in each ear might just deaden the noise enough for you to get to sleep. I do it when I go to music gigs these days because I'm an 'oul fella now and I want to save my hearing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    dnme wrote: »
    Well its 9am on Sunday morning. I've had a fcuking weekend of it. They had me awake yesterday morning at 7:30am pottering about for ages upstairs. So last night I decided to try the tiny box room. This is the only room that is away from the adjoining wall. I squeezed into the tiny single bed, my feet embedded into the wall. Managed to get to sleep. 7:15am this morning I am woken to doors, walking, wardrobes etc. All the usual. Just goes to show, the walls are not necessarily the complete problem. These wooden first floors carry the noise and IMO they even amplify it.

    I'm really groggy, sleep deprivation. Starting to loose my temper and bang doors here etc. That's not good. It's not their fault, it's the fault of badly built houses. I want to be able to get a nights sleep and have a lie on at the weekends. So I reckon I'll have to move. Someone said earlier, that if you are a light sleeper, you should live in a detached dwelling. That's a fair point.

    I have actually ordered ear plugs. But Ive used them before and don't like them. They make you hot, they are uncomfortable, you can still hear some noises no matter what and they make the inside of your head, your breathing etc loud.


    Puzzled as as we have said they are freely available in so many shops and cheap. And they do help. Trust on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Puzzled as as we have said they are freely available in so many shops and cheap. And they do help. Trust on that.

    Yes I know, Its just that someone posted a link here, to a pack on Amazon and I went ahead and ordered them as I thought they were being recommended as being particularly good. But as I say, I hare them, hate having to wear them. If they do work, then I fear I wont hear my alarm.

    Not only that, but even during the day, I'm listening to next door. Electric switches, washing machines, doors, their oil burner etc. Its driving me insane. I'm getting angry and I just dont want to be that person.

    Plus, this morning as I write this, I'm wrecked. No energy, flat out on the couch, tired and very grumpy. I need peace and quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    I wouldn't be mentioning this to them if I were you. They have done nothing wrong and you'll just seem like a crank.
    I mean you can't ask them to
    Close their windows at night, and eight O clock at a weekend isn't really that early either.

    Try the ear plugs.

    Also when I worked nights I found that noise distraction works well. Get a cd with background noise, sea or rain sounds worked best for me. Stick on the cd in your room at night and the more local sound of it will distract you from other sounds.
    Be patient at it as you need to give time for your sleep habits to change.

    There is also a speaker device that goes into your pillow, a friend who also worked nights had one and swore by it, he reckoned it would drown out lawnmowers in the summer which is something.

    Leave your neighbours alone and work this out yourself. You'll just seem like a crank and they'll probably spread the word about the new crank next door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    bbam wrote: »
    I wouldn't be mentioning this to them if I were you. They have done nothing wrong and you'll just seem like a crank.
    I mean you can't ask them to
    Close their windows at night, and eight O clock at a weekend isn't really that early either.

    Leave your neighbours alone and work this out yourself. You'll just seem like a crank and they'll probably spread the word about the new crank next door.

    Since I moved into this house, Once I realised that I could hear them, I have been tiptoeing around, gently closing doors, creeping up stairs etc. I had the intelligence and the consideration to realise that if I can hear them, they can here me so I'll make an effort.

    Then I moved rooms.
    Then I posted a thread on boards
    Now I have decided to move.

    I havn't gone near them, nor will I. I am the one taking the hit and making the sacrifice.

    When I'm paying big money to rent a house, I dont want to have to tiptoe around. I dont want to have to wear earplugs. I want to be able to have a lie on at the weekend, I work very hard all week for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    I agree cometly and understand your position. I was merely saying they your right to a lie in at the weekend doesn't exceed their right to live normal lives.

    I grew up in terraced housing so understand how mundane sounds carry through solid walls. I also worked nights for twelve years and understand how devastating sleep depravation is.

    I was giving a suggestion based on my experience. It's a pity your driven to move and I'd worry you won't get a completely quiet house anywhere if it's adjoining another house. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    bbam wrote: »
    I agree cometly and understand your position. I was merely saying they your right to a lie in at the weekend doesn't exceed their right to live normal lives.

    I grew up in terraced housing so understand how mundane sounds carry through solid walls. I also worked nights for twelve years and understand how devastating sleep depravation is.

    I was giving a suggestion based on my experience. It's a pity your driven to move and I'd worry you won't get a completely quiet house anywhere if it's adjoining another house. Best of luck.

    Many thanks.
    I'm a rural lad all my life and that's what I'll stick to. I'll live with the ear plugs for now until a nice detached house comes along. There was a time in my life (teens, 20's and 30's where I could sleep through a war. I literally used to have 2 radio alarm clocks, both set to switch on radio at full volume as their alarms, and I used to sleep through that (while waking everyone else up). In recent years my sleep seems to have changed, I wake up now at the slightest sound. A tap, a click, anything. Its horrible, and when I do wake up, it can take me hours to get back to sleep. There are sounds I actually love from nature. A stormy night or rainfall. Love those sounds and can happily fall to sleep to the sound of rain on a skylight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Does not work if you have sensitive hearing and simply adds to the issues.

    I have extremely sensitive hearing and it works just fine. White noise is actually proven to aid sleeping even when noise disturbance isn't an issue and studies have shown it's almost as effective as prescription sleep medication in treating insomnia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    dnme wrote: »
    There are sounds I actually love from nature. A stormy night or rainfall. Love those sounds and can happily fall to sleep to the sound of rain on a skylight.
    Rain & thunder; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pSyYhRYeIM
    Light rain; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgG4vDfcJek
    75 minutes of thunder and rain; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvRv-243Cmk

    As for anyone that fears not hearing their alarm clock, you can get alarm clocks with vibrating pads that you put under your pillow :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    iguana wrote: »
    I have extremely sensitive hearing and it works just fine. White noise is actually proven to aid sleeping even when noise disturbance isn't an issue and studies have shown it's almost as effective as prescription sleep medication in treating insomnia.


    For YOU, yes, but not for everyone. If it works for you fine but studies do not impress me one iota.

    My issues re hearing are neurological and any sound affects and wears me out.

    Different means for different people. Which I have no problems with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Graces7 wrote: »
    For YOU, yes, but not for everyone. If it works for you fine but studies do not impress me one iota.

    My issues re hearing are neurological and any sound affects and wears me out.

    Different means for different people. Which I have no problems with.

    But that means you are not the norm, not the other way around, my experience matches that of the vast, vast majority of people. In 70% of insomnia cases they aid sleep. In far more cases of outside noise causing sleep disturbance they remove the problem entirely. Just because they don't work for you, the exception to the norm, doesn't mean that the OP shouldn't try it. The odds are it will solve his problem because it does for most people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    dnme wrote: »
    Since I moved into this house, Once I realised that I could hear them, I have been tiptoeing around, gently closing doors, creeping up stairs etc. I had the intelligence and the consideration to realise that if I can hear them, they can here me so I'll make an effort.

    Then I moved rooms.
    Then I posted a thread on boards
    Now I have decided to move.

    I havn't gone near them, nor will I. I am the one taking the hit and making the sacrifice.

    When I'm paying big money to rent a house, I dont want to have to tiptoe around. I dont want to have to wear earplugs. I want to be able to have a lie on at the weekend, I work very hard all week for that.

    Not taking a hit or a sacrifice; simply an adjustment and a learning. NB re sounds,, I saw a wee cottage on daft ie that was by a waterfall.. No way for me, but for some here that would be perfect. My idea of hell that would be.

    I started avoiding having neighbours many years ago. Noise was one of the reasons; here traffic noise can be an issue as we are near the timber lorry route; had I realised this maybe I would have taken a different house. But another move is and was impossible for health reasons so the ear plugs are the answer for me. And over the months I have adjusted.

    NB the cheaper ones I find better; the ones I have now are the ones welders buy which is good enough for me at 50 cents. I was at a very noisy market yesterday and they were such a blessing.

    Good luck with your search..so many properties around now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭mark17j


    not all Semi detached houses are like this, I have lived nextdoor to a big family for the last 15 years and i've never heard a sound outta that house.. it's all to do with the build quality of the place, the only thing i've ever heard from their side is them dilling holes a few times over the years...I suggest you're doing the right thing moving as u can't approach people and get petty about these type of sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    NEXT time viewing house ,visit after 6 pm, see can you hear noise,tv etc from next door or just try and rent a totally detached house.
    OLD victorian, houses may be better ,re sound insulation. ,as the walls are thick.
    You could try and buy old type headphones, from charity shop, as they cover the whole ear.
    see
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/BUILDERS-DIY-MUFFS-DEFENDERS-PROTECTORS/dp/B003B2N98O
    these would keep out most of the noise ,
    I Don,t know if you could sleep wearing them.
    you could probably buy em in a hardware shop,builders providers.
    there must be People stuck in negative equity ,cant move house ,and they can hear every noise from next door.ie bad sound insulation in house walls.
    i lived in old terraced house, never hear any loud or irritating noise from next door,
    house was 50 plus years old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    the_syco wrote: »
    Rain & thunder; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pSyYhRYeIM
    Light rain; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgG4vDfcJek
    75 minutes of thunder and rain; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvRv-243Cmk

    As for anyone that fears not hearing their alarm clock, you can get alarm clocks with vibrating pads that you put under your pillow :)
    Listen to the white noise. Live near Dublin? Pop into the DeafHear shop (35 North Frederick Street, Dublin 1) to get a vibrating alarm clock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Boardieman


    Unfortunately there is no such thing as a quiet semi detached house. We've been renting one for the last year and as much as our neighbours are lovely people we can hear their kids screaming all day long and even the occasional bedroom antics at night. I always tell people never buy a semi detached house but so many people just get excited by the idea of buying a cheap house and end up stuck with them for life. My sister did this, beautiful house, but she can hear everything her neighbours do. Some really awful buildings were thrown up during the property boom. I'm currently in the process of buying in the country where I can have a bit of piece and quiet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭mark17j


    Boardieman wrote: »
    Unfortunately there is no such thing as a quiet semi detached house. We've been renting one for the last year and as much as our neighbours are lovely people we can hear their kids screaming all day long and even the occasional bedroom antics at night. I always tell people never buy a semi detached house but so many people just get excited by the idea of buying a cheap house and end up stuck with them for life. My sister did this, beautiful house, but she can hear everything her neighbours do. Some really awful buildings were thrown up during the property boom. I'm currently in the process of buying in the country where I can have a bit of piece and quiet.
    Well they're allot better than terraced anyday, I wouldn't like to live in a row of terraces, even though the modern ones of today do look rather nice.
    It's all to do with how lucky you are to get nice people.
    A detached house in Dublin suburbs would be ideal, or a semi with good neighbours. living in the country can be a bit scary these days.
    I live in a semi myself, and never hear my neighbours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    If you own a semi-d (or even rent one), you could probably move the bed to a part not touching a neighbours room. That might help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Wow folks, this ol' thread still going ? :) Many thanks for all the input though.

    I moved house months ago. BTW I tried all suggestions given including moving to each of the three bedrooms. Nothing helped. The noise travels through the woodwork. Even HQ earplugs did not stop the noise completely.

    I am now in a stand alone house and back enjoying peace and quiet. I'll never go near semi-detached setup's again. Particularly modern builds.

    Peace & Quiet . . . bliss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I lived in semi d, next door ,woman with 3 kids, i Can,t remember
    hearing any noise,house 12 years old.
    MANY houses , in the boom were never inspected,insulation ,was badly fitted, or there was a low level of insulation.
    Your post indicate a technical,building sound insulation problem.
    IF viewing a house ,best to do so after 6pm, see can you hear noise from next door.
    SAYING EVERY semi d is badly insulated ,or has a noise problem is simply
    incorrect .
    I lived in 2 semi d,s when i was younger.
    I,M glad to hear you moved out
    i,d be wary of anything built after 1996.RE insulation sound levels etc if i was buying or renting.
    Theres good modern builds,and there,s bad ones.


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