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Junior Cert: 2012 History (HL&OL)

  • 13-06-2012 3:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9


    Ok for some reason I can't see any JC history paper threads up yet, so i'll post it up myself.

    How did it go. I wrote so much my arm feels like it could fall of at any point now. My writing just got gradually worse and worse!! You know when you think you've written a sentence and realize its just one big long swiggly line you can't read!!!

    PS If there is a thread up already up sorry I just can't find it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭iliketwixbars


    Nice paper :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭A7XGirl


    Went really well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    Did well, considering I have a terrible teacher.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 401 ✭✭Leinsterr


    Wrote the full booklet and 3 extra pages. Didn't even do any extra qs. Would I get marked down????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭paddzdaman


    grand paper but some questions were kinda unpredicable (e.g. nazi economy )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Sophieee


    Nice paper, what did every one say for picture 1, where the artefacts were found, i wasnt sure about that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
    question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
    so easy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 401 ✭✭Leinsterr


    Sophieee wrote: »
    Nice paper, what did every one say for picture 1, where the artefacts were found, i wasnt sure about that

    I said the second one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Leinsterr wrote: »
    I said the second one

    i said the middle one or the second one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Daledge


    Wasn't my best paper, usually do better in history, fairly confident I got an B (Higher level) but I knew I should've studied Washington! For a settler who received land I wrote about group six for the Ulster plantation and still filled up a page, will that do?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 401 ✭✭Leinsterr


    AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DID B AND C FOR Q6?????? All my mates done A and B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭iWin1010


    It was okay. I normally get A's in history but I don't feel that confident after that. I studied all the wrong things but I gave it a good shot, filled up all the booklet and am hoping to get a B:pac::pac::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭ImRebecca


    Will messy writing lose marks? Mine got messier as the test went on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭ButtonBox


    Went well. :) Easy enough.
    Just glad it's over. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 JCHelp


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
    question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
    so easy.

    6 pages for people in history is not good my friend ... The examiner will become bored as the recommended pages for the that question is 2 ... He/ She will start looking for things to mark you down on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 xTwizLaH


    Leinsterr wrote: »
    AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DID B AND C FOR Q6?????? All my mates done A and B

    I did A & D .. D was easy but A was fairly hard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭Troxck


    I thought it was grand, Irish history threw me off a bit and my question wasn't the best. Still hoping for an A. Also, 3.5 pages in History is good but did you have 10 solid facts? If you didn't it means you probably didn't get full marks. A person could write half a page, 10 solid facts and get full marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭blobcat


    I was SO annoyed at the People In History questions. Okay, the first one was fine. But the second one? I hadn't a clue about any of them. They chose the only three people I didn't learn about. I probably should have done them but I mean, come on!

    Time to google my answers. I really hope Ignatius Loyola wrote a book. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 MapleLeaf96


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
    question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
    so easy.

    Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    JCHelp wrote: »
    6 pages for people in history is not good my friend ... The examiner will become bored as the recommended pages for the that question is 2 ... He/ She will start looking for things to mark you down on

    No, he/she won't.
    It's a little bit annoying to wade through pages of stuff when the maximum marks have already been gained, but no-one will be looking for things to mark a candidate down on.

    The Junior Cert. always gives the benefit of doubt to the candidate. It's why people do so well and why it shouldn't be taken as an indication of how someone will do in the Leaving, which is a different ball game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 me.gusta


    Delight that the anglo-irish treaty came up!
    But for the people who wrote like more than the booklet,whats the point? 8 facts is enough for people in history?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭DaleHyland


    I did C and D for 6, Archaeologist and Factory owner for 4. I felt it was fair again. I'm sure I got my A. Although I'm not sure about my Holocaust question.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 401 ✭✭Leinsterr


    Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each :)

    You need 8 SRS (16marks) and the rest given on impression


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    i said the middle one or the second one


    Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭Troxck


    Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.:confused:

    The VERY first question, the tick the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.:confused:

    It was the first question. It was two artifacts and it asked you was it from
    A) neolithic era
    B ) pre christian
    C) the medieval


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    Although I'm not sure about my Holocaust question.

    Was that the question on Nazi & jews or something? what did ya write for that? think I done it wrong, not sure. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    It was the first question. It was two artifacts and it asked you was it from
    A) neolithic era
    B ) pre christian
    C) the medieval

    Ah yeah.. haha I said pre christian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭DaleHyland


    Was that the question on Nazi & jews or something? what did ya write for that? think I done it wrong, not sure. :confused:
    (I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

    Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

    Hitler hated Jews.
    Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
    At first didn't want to kill them
    Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
    Also made Jews live in ghettos.
    He hoped to make them flee the country.
    This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
    Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
    Believed he had to use the final solution.
    Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
    Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭Shane Gillespie


    almost everything went grand but i was just wondering what people wrote for 6c - the question on the northern civil rights movement ,i think i did it wrong
    Did anyone do that question?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    (I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

    Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

    Hitler hated Jews.
    Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
    At first didn't want to kill them
    Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
    Also made Jews live in ghettos.
    He hoped to make them flee the country.
    This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
    Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
    Believed he had to use the final solution.
    Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
    Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.
    Do you remember what the question was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 LaMwa996


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
    question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
    so easy.

    Jaysus!:eek: I'm hoping my examiner is one of those quality not people:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 Oozamine


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    (I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

    Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

    Hitler hated Jews.
    Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
    At first didn't want to kill them
    Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
    Also made Jews live in ghettos.
    He hoped to make them flee the country.
    This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
    Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
    Believed he had to use the final solution.
    Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
    Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

    I think that would get most or full marks,
    I focused on night of broken glass,star of david,numberg laws and how most of the teachers are members of nazi party and how the teachers and jospeh gobbels use propaganda against the jews? Only brieftly mentioned consintration camps :S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭OwlYouNeed


    Lovely paper. :) Did A, B and C in question 6. I was delighted when the emergency came up. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭DaleHyland


    spurious wrote: »
    Do you remember what the question was?

    Write an account on :
    (c) Nazi's and the Jews.
    (10 marks)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    (I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

    Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

    Hitler hated Jews.
    Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
    At first didn't want to kill them
    Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
    Also made Jews live in ghettos.
    He hoped to make them flee the country.
    This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
    Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
    Believed he had to use the final solution.
    Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
    Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

    Seems like alot of writing. :eek: I briefly mention his hatred for them. Then I focused on, night of broken glass, star of david, the nuremberg laws, then wrote about ghettos, and how he ordered nazis to round them up in to camps, then death, gas attacks, holocaust etc. It was about 3/4's of a page. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    Write an account on :
    (c) Nazi's and the Jews.
    (10 marks)

    OK, for JC what you have written will almost certainly get full marks.
    If it had been a Leaving Cert. answer you would have scored badly as you only indirectly addressed the question and as you recognised yourself, you answered on Hitler and the Jews rather than the Nazis and the Jews, but really, you (along with many others if the forum is anything to go on) are writing way more than you need in these questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 silentscreams


    didnt do the second people in history question>.< i done george washington and all i wrote was "george washington was born in virginia" hahahaha. anyways think i got a high D or a low C. hopefully i passed!:-)) if i studied i would of most definetly get an A. but i have absolutely no interest in history so i didnt bother:-) and not doing history for 5th year so whatevaaaaaa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    OwlYouNeed wrote: »
    Lovely paper. :) Did A, B and C in question 6. I was delighted when the emergency came up. :D

    I didn't even have time to do an extra question. :eek: I done questions C & D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Lac21


    What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭DaleHyland


    spurious wrote: »
    OK, for JC what you have written will almost certainly get full marks.
    If it had been a Leaving Cert. answer you would have scored badly as you only indirectly addressed the question and as you recognised yourself, you answered on Hitler and the Jews rather than the Nazis and the Jews, but really, you (along with many others if the forum is anything to go on) are writing way more than you need in these questions.

    Thanks for that, I think it's because at least in my case, in order to give a complete account of certain things, you have to go into lots of detail. Are we over learning for Junior Cert? To be honest, I'm like a sponge , I retain lots of information. If I know a lot about a topic, why would I not tell the examiner, as they can only mark what's on the page. I swear I must have given 15 SRS for the Anglo Irish Treaty Q worth only 12 marks, because I had to go into representatives ,terms, DeV didn't like it , Dáil vote , how it came about. I genuinely don't know how it's possible in only 5 SRS, so I think that's why we write too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Troxck wrote: »
    I thought it was grand, Irish history threw me off a bit and my question wasn't the best. Still hoping for an A. Also, 3.5 pages in History is good but did you have 10 solid facts? If you didn't it means you probably didn't get full marks. A person could write half a page, 10 solid facts and get full marks.

    Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 JCHelp


    Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each :)

    8 SRS = 16marks

    4 marks for layout and overall quality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭DaleHyland


    Lac21 wrote: »
    What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
    Thanks!

    Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
    6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Lac21


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    Lac21 wrote: »
    What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
    Thanks!

    Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
    6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.

    Thought it might be Reformation. That's good. Was helping a cousin to study last night.
    Thanks for that.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 76 ✭✭jd6920s


    Our teacher predicted the whole test :rolleyes: even still I doubt if I got an A , prob a B . Couldnt care less though not doing it for leaving :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    SdoowSirhc wrote: »
    Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P

    I agree too! For the people in history questions I wrote a page, to a page & a half. Anytime I write pages & pages of stuff I normally am rambling because I don't know stuff. I filled almost all the booklet except a page or 2. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭Troxck


    SdoowSirhc wrote: »
    Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P

    For 12 marks I wrote a page and for 10 I wrote 3/4. Waffling on in History is pointless tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hannah_2012


    Troxck wrote: »
    For 12 marks I wrote a page and for 10 I wrote 3/4. Waffling on in History is pointless tbh


    Same. I tend to waffle if its longer than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 sunshine547


    DaleHyland wrote: »
    Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
    6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.


    (im just using my sisters old account)

    Omg you actually scared me for a minute...:L Um I don't know if you just typed it our wrong but it was a Medieval Craftsman not a Medieval Knight. (I just doubled checked!) Luckily I wrote about the craftsman in my exam.
    PS: Good paper!!


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