Junior Cert: 2012 History (HL&OL)

LaMwa996

Ok for some reason I can't see any JC history paper threads up yet, so i'll post it up myself.

How did it go. I wrote so much my arm feels like it could fall of at any point now. My writing just got gradually worse and worse!! You know when you think you've written a sentence and realize its just one big long swiggly line you can't read!!!

PS If there is a thread up already up sorry I just can't find it!

iliketwixbars

Nice paper

A7XGirl

Went really well

dalta5billion

Did well, considering I have a terrible teacher.

Leinsterr

Wrote the full booklet and 3 extra pages. Didn't even do any extra qs. Would I get marked down????

paddzdaman

grand paper but some questions were kinda unpredicable (e.g. nazi economy )

Sophieee

Nice paper, what did every one say for picture 1, where the artefacts were found, i wasnt sure about that

EoghanIRL

so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
so easy.

Leinsterr

Sophieee wrote: »

Nice paper, what did every one say for picture 1, where the artefacts were found, i wasnt sure about that

I said the second one

EoghanIRL

Leinsterr wrote: »

I said the second one

i said the middle one or the second one

Daledge

Wasn't my best paper, usually do better in history, fairly confident I got an B (Higher level) but I knew I should've studied Washington! For a settler who received land I wrote about group six for the Ulster plantation and still filled up a page, will that do?

Leinsterr

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DID B AND C FOR Q6?????? All my mates done A and B

iWin1010

It was okay. I normally get A's in history but I don't feel that confident after that. I studied all the wrong things but I gave it a good shot, filled up all the booklet and am hoping to get a B:pac::pac::cool:

ImRebecca

Will messy writing lose marks? Mine got messier as the test went on.

ButtonBox

Went well. Easy enough.
Just glad it's over.

JCHelp

EoghanIRL wrote: »

so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
so easy.

6 pages for people in history is not good my friend ... The examiner will become bored as the recommended pages for the that question is 2 ... He/ She will start looking for things to mark you down on

xTwizLaH

Leinsterr wrote: »

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DID B AND C FOR Q6?????? All my mates done A and B

I did A & D .. D was easy but A was fairly hard

Troxck

I thought it was grand, Irish history threw me off a bit and my question wasn't the best. Still hoping for an A. Also, 3.5 pages in History is good but did you have 10 solid facts? If you didn't it means you probably didn't get full marks. A person could write half a page, 10 solid facts and get full marks.

blobcat

I was SO annoyed at the People In History questions. Okay, the first one was fine. But the second one? I hadn't a clue about any of them. They chose the only three people I didn't learn about. I probably should have done them but I mean, come on!

Time to google my answers. I really hope Ignatius Loyola wrote a book. :pac:

MapleLeaf96

EoghanIRL wrote: »

so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
so easy.

Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each

spurious

JCHelp wrote: »

6 pages for people in history is not good my friend ... The examiner will become bored as the recommended pages for the that question is 2 ... He/ She will start looking for things to mark you down on

No, he/she won't.
It's a little bit annoying to wade through pages of stuff when the maximum marks have already been gained, but no-one will be looking for things to mark a candidate down on.

The Junior Cert. always gives the benefit of doubt to the candidate. It's why people do so well and why it shouldn't be taken as an indication of how someone will do in the Leaving, which is a different ball game.

me.gusta

Delight that the anglo-irish treaty came up!
But for the people who wrote like more than the booklet,whats the point? 8 facts is enough for people in history?

DaleHyland

I did C and D for 6, Archaeologist and Factory owner for 4. I felt it was fair again. I'm sure I got my A. Although I'm not sure about my Holocaust question.

Leinsterr

MapleLeaf96 wrote: »

Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each

You need 8 SRS (16marks) and the rest given on impression

Hannah_2012

EoghanIRL wrote: »

i said the middle one or the second one

Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.

Troxck

Hannah_2012 wrote: »

Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.

The VERY first question, the tick the box.

EoghanIRL

Hannah_2012 wrote: »

Whats all the talk about middle & second ones? Dont remember writing about that.

It was the first question. It was two artifacts and it asked you was it from
A) neolithic era
B ) pre christian
C) the medieval

Hannah_2012

DaleHyland wrote: »

Although I'm not sure about my Holocaust question.

Was that the question on Nazi & jews or something? what did ya write for that? think I done it wrong, not sure.

Hannah_2012

EoghanIRL wrote: »

It was the first question. It was two artifacts and it asked you was it from
A) neolithic era
B ) pre christian
C) the medieval

Ah yeah.. haha I said pre christian.

DaleHyland

Hannah_2012 wrote: »

Was that the question on Nazi & jews or something? what did ya write for that? think I done it wrong, not sure.

(I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

Hitler hated Jews.
Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
At first didn't want to kill them
Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
Also made Jews live in ghettos.
He hoped to make them flee the country.
This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
Believed he had to use the final solution.
Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

Shane Gillespie

almost everything went grand but i was just wondering what people wrote for 6c - the question on the northern civil rights movement ,i think i did it wrong
Did anyone do that question?

spurious

DaleHyland wrote: »

(I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

Hitler hated Jews.
Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
At first didn't want to kill them
Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
Also made Jews live in ghettos.
He hoped to make them flee the country.
This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
Believed he had to use the final solution.
Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

Do you remember what the question was?

LaMwa996

EoghanIRL wrote: »

so easy. I definitely got an A. Answered everything. I wrote 6 pages for my people in history. 3 an a half for george washington and 2 and a half for an archaeologist. answered all 20 short questions. Pictures and documents were easy. source was very easy
question 6 was also easy. i did a and d. I loved the question on nazis and the jews. i think i wrote about 2 a4 pages on it . I had to ask for extra booklet.
so easy.

Jaysus!:eek: I'm hoping my examiner is one of those quality not people:rolleyes:

Oozamine

DaleHyland wrote: »

(I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

Hitler hated Jews.
Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
At first didn't want to kill them
Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
Also made Jews live in ghettos.
He hoped to make them flee the country.
This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
Believed he had to use the final solution.
Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

I think that would get most or full marks,
I focused on night of broken glass,star of david,numberg laws and how most of the teachers are members of nazi party and how the teachers and jospeh gobbels use propaganda against the jews? Only brieftly mentioned consintration camps :S

OwlYouNeed

Lovely paper. Did A, B and C in question 6. I was delighted when the emergency came up.

DaleHyland

spurious wrote: »

Do you remember what the question was?

Write an account on :
(c) Nazi's and the Jews.
(10 marks)

Hannah_2012

DaleHyland wrote: »

(I'd love if spurious could tell me if it's any good. I feel like I focused far too much on hitler.)

Bullet Point Format. (Main point made in each sentence,they were full sentences)

Hitler hated Jews.
Wrote about his hatred in Mein Kamf.
At first didn't want to kill them
Made life hard by introducing Nuremberg Laws (used not allowed to own businesses, wearing star of david as examples of hardship).
Also made Jews live in ghettos.
He hoped to make them flee the country.
This became a problem when he invaded Poland.
Poland had the highest amount of Jews in Europe.
Believed he had to use the final solution.
Jews were holed up in Concentration camps such as Auschwitz and Borgen-Belsen.
Jews were killed via gasing, mass shooting and either stravation or worked to death.

Seems like alot of writing. :eek: I briefly mention his hatred for them. Then I focused on, night of broken glass, star of david, the nuremberg laws, then wrote about ghettos, and how he ordered nazis to round them up in to camps, then death, gas attacks, holocaust etc. It was about 3/4's of a page.

spurious

DaleHyland wrote: »

Write an account on :
(c) Nazi's and the Jews.
(10 marks)

OK, for JC what you have written will almost certainly get full marks.
If it had been a Leaving Cert. answer you would have scored badly as you only indirectly addressed the question and as you recognised yourself, you answered on Hitler and the Jews rather than the Nazis and the Jews, but really, you (along with many others if the forum is anything to go on) are writing way more than you need in these questions.

silentscreams

didnt do the second people in history question>.< i done george washington and all i wrote was "george washington was born in virginia" hahahaha. anyways think i got a high D or a low C. hopefully i passed!:-)) if i studied i would of most definetly get an A. but i have absolutely no interest in history so i didnt bother:-) and not doing history for 5th year so whatevaaaaaa

Hannah_2012

OwlYouNeed wrote: »

Lovely paper. Did A, B and C in question 6. I was delighted when the emergency came up.

I didn't even have time to do an extra question. :eek: I done questions C & D.

Lac21

What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
Thanks!

DaleHyland

spurious wrote: »

OK, for JC what you have written will almost certainly get full marks.
If it had been a Leaving Cert. answer you would have scored badly as you only indirectly addressed the question and as you recognised yourself, you answered on Hitler and the Jews rather than the Nazis and the Jews, but really, you (along with many others if the forum is anything to go on) are writing way more than you need in these questions.

Thanks for that, I think it's because at least in my case, in order to give a complete account of certain things, you have to go into lots of detail. Are we over learning for Junior Cert? To be honest, I'm like a sponge , I retain lots of information. If I know a lot about a topic, why would I not tell the examiner, as they can only mark what's on the page. I swear I must have given 15 SRS for the Anglo Irish Treaty Q worth only 12 marks, because I had to go into representatives ,terms, DeV didn't like it , Dáil vote , how it came about. I genuinely don't know how it's possible in only 5 SRS, so I think that's why we write too much.

SdoowSirhc

Troxck wrote: »

I thought it was grand, Irish history threw me off a bit and my question wasn't the best. Still hoping for an A. Also, 3.5 pages in History is good but did you have 10 solid facts? If you didn't it means you probably didn't get full marks. A person could write half a page, 10 solid facts and get full marks.

Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P

JCHelp

MapleLeaf96 wrote: »

Seriously!? People in history is only worth 20 marks each, you only needed ten SRS for each

8 SRS = 16marks

4 marks for layout and overall quality

DaleHyland

Lac21 wrote: »

What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
Thanks!

Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.

Lac21

DaleHyland wrote: »

Lac21 wrote: »

What exactly came up in Q.5 and Q. 6 A?
Thanks!

Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.

Thought it might be Reformation. That's good. Was helping a cousin to study last night.
Thanks for that.

jd6920s

Our teacher predicted the whole test :rolleyes: even still I doubt if I got an A , prob a B . Couldnt care less though not doing it for leaving

Hannah_2012

SdoowSirhc wrote: »

Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P

I agree too! For the people in history questions I wrote a page, to a page & a half. Anytime I write pages & pages of stuff I normally am rambling because I don't know stuff. I filled almost all the booklet except a page or 2.

Troxck

SdoowSirhc wrote: »

Happy to hear somebody that agrees with not writing enormous amounts for low marks! Every JC thread on this has people saying they done 3 pages or 5 pages or whatever for question worth 15 or 20 marks. I thought 20 marks would be around a full page of tight, small writing or a page and a half if you have big writing. I'm getting scared here reading these threads!:P

For 12 marks I wrote a page and for 10 I wrote 3/4. Waffling on in History is pointless tbh

Hannah_2012

Troxck wrote: »

For 12 marks I wrote a page and for 10 I wrote 3/4. Waffling on in History is pointless tbh

Same. I tend to waffle if its longer than that.

sunshine547

DaleHyland wrote: »

Q5 was the Reformation. There was a paragraph Q on The Council of Trent, Inquisitions or the Jesuits
6(A) was the middle ages, Lady,Serf,training of a medevial knight were paragraphs there.

(im just using my sisters old account)

Omg you actually scared me for a minute...:L Um I don't know if you just typed it our wrong but it was a Medieval Craftsman not a Medieval Knight. (I just doubled checked!) Luckily I wrote about the craftsman in my exam.
PS: Good paper!!