**HL Irish Paper 2...Before/After**

AnnaKin

Couldnt see one! So I dont feel like studying for this. I think I'll tackle everything reagarding poetry and stories except Caca Milis. I despiiiiise talking about caca milis And as for the comprehensions...well... we'll see how that goes :cool: :pac:

Togepi

I love this paper, it's the best part of the whole Leaving Cert course to be honest. The stories and poems are just brilliant craic to study, can't wait to write about them!!

*Sarcasm*

:P

Cruel Sun

I thought the above was serious for a second

Namlub

The poem question is worth less than reading it out on the oral. Effort.

AnnaKin

Namlub wrote: »

The poem question is worth less than reading it out on the oral. Effort.

yeah i know :rolleyes: ah well its one exam! @Togepi, I honestly was taking you seriously for a moment and seen the *sarcasm* I did have a wee laugh :pac:

Togepi

Namlub wrote: »

The poem question is worth less than reading it out on the oral. Effort.

Well I don't know about you, but I was exhausted after reading out Colscaradh, really took it out of me. I probably would have had to sit the rest of the exam out if I had gotten one of the longer poems to read.

:pac:

Killian In The Name Of

Going to learn off the achroimes, I can just waffle about everything else. I've stuck up all my Irish notes on my bedroom wall next to my bed so I can read/comprehend them when I'm too lazy to leave my room.

grantyrs10

You should go onto radionalife.ie and listen to the ardteiste podcasts.. they discuss every poem and story as well as the new syllabus...takje notes while listening good way to study ... that is what i'll be doin no books for me !

Namlub

Togepi wrote: »

Well I don't know about you, but I was exhausted after reading out Colscaradh, really took it out of me. I probably would have had to sit the rest of the exam out if I had gotten one of the longer poems to read.

:pac:

I got Spailpin Fanach, I needed weeks to recover.

AnnaKin

Namlub wrote: »

I got Spailpin Fanach, I needed weeks to recover.

An tEarrach Thiar, beat that b*tches :cool: :pac:

Killian In The Name Of

Namlub wrote: »

I got Spailpin Fanach, I needed weeks to recover.

My deepest sympathies.

Tankosaur

Does anyone have any notes on how to answer the questions with regards to the genre each leamhthuiscint is written in?

Looking Glass

A Caca Milis question would be right up my ally. Have an essay about the teannas between Paul and Catherine, so fingers crossed! The poem is bull****table enough, what with it being on the paper! Really can't understand why the comprehensions have been shifted to paper two, though... Very strange decision.

Namlub

Looking Glass wrote: »

A Caca Milis question would be right up my ally. Have an essay about the teannas between Paul and Catherine, so fingers crossed! The poem is bull****table enough, what with it being on the paper! Really can't understand why the comprehensions have been shifted to paper two, though... Very strange decision.

Apparently they wanted to stop people using words/phrases from the comprehensions in their essay. Which I totally would have done...

Looking Glass

Namlub wrote: »

Apparently they wanted to stop people using words/phrases from the comprehensions in their essay. Which I totally would have done...

Haha, fair point.

Duffman K

Im hoping for two handy enough reading comps, they're what always brings me down .

dmca93

In giving you the poem on the sheet is that beacuse they expect you to use quotes whereas they don't expect you to quote from the prós and An Triail..? Or will ye be quoting everywhere ye can?

Enda93

Are people rewording the comps or just copying from the text ?

Pepperr

Enda93 wrote: »

Are people rewording the comps or just copying from the text ?

I'm pretty sure you can just pull from the text apart from the Q7 (6?) the one where you have to give your opinion or whatever

Enda93

Pepperr wrote: »

Enda93 wrote: »

Are people rewording the comps or just copying from the text ?

I'm pretty sure you can just pull from the text apart from the Q7 (6?) the one where you have to give your opinion or whatever

Yeah I know it doesn't specify, just not sure if it's better to put it in your own words, my teacher told me to reword it, I'm just worried about time

oldcrescent

could some one tell me what percenr is going for paper two,i know the marks,but whats the percent

17Dan21

16% for comps
8% literature part
5% prose
5% poetry

oldcrescent

17Dan21 wrote: »

16% for comps
8% literature part
5% prose
5% poetry

thank you sir...alot of bother for 18%,i have biology tomorow too...ugh!!!!!:mad:

Namlub

Technically you could leave out poems and pros and still get an A

earwax_man

3 hours and 5 minutes is a bit tight for all that! What are the timings that you guys are using? I barely finished on time during the mocks

Cáca Milis is simply amazing. :P

17Dan21

oldcrescent wrote: »

thank you sir...alot of bother for 18%,i have biology tomorow too...ugh!!!!!:mad:

The literature is actually only 6.6%. I made a mistake.

I agree with you

dmca93

oldcrescent wrote:

thank you sir...alot of bother for 18%,i have biology tomorow too...ugh!!!!!

Same! I think I'll just try learn three good An Triail questions as there isin't a huge amount they can ask on it, maybe gave a quick look over the prós and just completely bluff the poetry, seeing as they give it printed I'm just going to fill it with quotes. I'm hoping for an A1 in Biology so I don't want to neglect it.

p.s How much are you guys going to write for each question? Is a page and half sufficient for the filíocht and prós and then maybe two and a half or so for An Triail?

17Dan21

dmca93 wrote: »

p.s How much are you guys going to write for each question? Is a page and half sufficient for the filíocht and prós and then maybe two and a half or so for An Triail?

I'd be delighted with a page each on prós and poetry and a pgae and a half on A thig na tit orm. You're all making me look bad

donvito99

3hrs and 5mins for 18 measly %.

EUGH disgusted, t'will be another late night anyway. Last night I brewed a bit of Colombia's second finest export at midnight and kept on going till about 2.30

dmca93

17Dan21 wrote:

I'd be delighted with a page each on prós and poetry and a pgae and a half on A thig na tit orm. You're all making me look bad

Don't worry, I wouldn't say I'll write that much!:D I just think it's better to aim for the most ya can because you'll never get more than what you aim for, you could apply that to life in general (bit gay but true! )

17Dan21

Point taken.

oldcrescent

i tried for half an hour to study,its too boring...im moving onto biology for the night

David1994

Going to have to leave my Irish paper 2 study till 6 in the morning...:P I have to go cram Biology for the next few hours then hit the sack for a few hours!
I know Thig na tit orm,general gist of the stories and the poems will be grand.
Oh and make sure you know your grammar for the last part of comprehensions

treely

Anyone learning a paragraph on the poets? It came up in mock.

Namlub

Yeah I've got a bit on all of them, so boring to learn though. Why can't they all be file anaithnid

Also, are you supposed to have quotes for the pros? I have one of Caca Milis and Hurlamaboc, but that's it

treely

Donr think so.


Just to be million % sure, can you just copy your answers from comprehension?

liverpoolskid

Do ye think we will be given the so called easier poems and prós seeing as it is the 1st year of the new course???

liverpoolskid

treely wrote: »

Anyone learning a paragraph on the poets? It came up in mock.

we were told to make sure to know them! its an easy 5 marks too, just have a few sentences like, he was born in ____. died in _____. simple stuff like that

Tankosaur

liverpoolskid wrote: »

we were told to make sure to know them! its an easy 5 marks too, just have a few sentences like, he was born in ____. died in _____. simple stuff like that

Also you need to know to tie them into the poem....

maitin o direan left the island when he was young so he felt home sick....


cathal o searcaigh moved to dublin and london but he was born in the country so he felt alienated....


biddy jenkinson lives in dublin so this must have influenced this poem due to a lack of nature and estates etc.

Tankosaur

liverpoolskid wrote: »

Do ye think we will be given the so called easier poems and prós seeing as it is the 1st year of the new course???

This this this a thousand times this.



I'm hoping for grathrud/caca milis and hurlamabuc

then geibheann/an tearrach thiar and colscaradh

and then eiceolai/ a chlann and colmain.

Ideal!!

liverpoolskid

Tankosaur wrote: »

Also you need to know to tie them into the poem....

maitin o direan left the island when he was young so he felt home sick....


cathal o searcaigh moved to dublin and london but he was born in the country so he felt alienated....


biddy jenkinson lives in dublin so this must have influenced this poem due to a lack of nature and estates etc.

what did cathal o searcaigh and biddy jenkinson write?? :P

liverpoolskid

Tankosaur wrote: »

This this this a thousand times this.



I'm hoping for grathrud/caca milis and hurlamabuc

then geibheann/an tearrach thiar and colscaradh

and then eiceolai/ a chlann and colmain.

Ideal!!

that would be living the dream! sport better come up in the comprehensions, it has to make an appearanc somewhere anyway!

Tankosaur

liverpoolskid wrote: »

what did cathal o searcaigh and biddy jenkinson write?? :P

Colmain and eiceolai respectively.... you are doing H.L right? You're supposed to write who wrote each one.

liverpoolskid

Tankosaur wrote: »

Colmain and eiceolai respectively.... you are doing H.L right? You're supposed to write who wrote each one.

aw yeah thats alright, i am doing an triail instead ya see!

Tankosaur

liverpoolskid wrote: »

aw yeah thats alright, i am doing an triail instead ya see!

Sorry I keep on thinking poetry is mandatory, but the same goes for the common poems... you need to link the poets life into the poem.

QUESTI0N

How much do we write for the Poetry/Prose/An Triail questions? It said 550 for the 100 mark question in P1, so, about 200 words for these?

Oh and on a side note: What on earth do write about? I mean, how could one possibly write 200 words about "Geibhean" or "Hurlamboc"?

ehshup

QUESTI0N wrote: »

How much do we write for the Poetry/Prose/An Triail questions? It said 550 for the 100 mark question in P1, so, about 200 words for these?

Oh and on a side note: What on earth do write about? I mean, how could one possibly write 200 words about "Geibhean" or "Hurlamboc"?

Your message there is 50 words. Multiply by 4 and that's 200, it's not that much, you'll be fine!

imelle

hope the grammar questions they ask are nice for the comprehensions, not some unusual things that i don't know!

Togepi

Cathal Ó Searcaigh is still on the course? Íosa Chríost!

finality

Oh god I hope they don't put Seal i Neipeal on the paper. I literally haven't looked at that since before Christmas in fifth year. Come on Hurlamaboc or Cáca Milis!

David1994

Anyone else just going to make up their poetry answer today..? I am not bothered learning off answers and will just look over the pros
Having Biology and Irish on the same day is not healthy