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Cinema Etiquette

  • 10-06-2012 09:53AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭


    Recently I noticed a lot of ****ty behaviour at the cinema. When I went to see Prometheus the guy beside me, had BOTH his hands down the front of his pants (not still...moving) for the majority of the movie. He snorted, grunted and sniffed for the duration as well. Also he had a 2ltr bottle of of coke in the holder between him and his friend and every now and then his friend would shake it, resulting in a wrestling match and a fit of giggling. This was a packed house, so there was no comfort in the "gap seat".

    Yesterday in The Pact, a group of 5 or 6 teens, late teens, talked, played their phones, joked, jostled, pointed out stuff on screen loudly and all that for the whole movie. WTF?! Also some guy in the back was making Donald Duck noises... O_o No amount of telling them to "STFU" was working.

    Towards the end of snow white, a couple of guys came in, walked around the cinema, then left, only to stand near the door and make fighting sounds...not sure what they were trying to do, but the distraction worked.

    Now my local cinema is Cineworld, so, especially on a sat / and tue evening (cheap tickets on tuesdays) there is always an element of scum who have no interest in seeing movies and only in disrupting it, but for the most part its not a problem. But damn...its annoying as hell. :mad::mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Where to start??

    I don't think "etiquette" guidelines will help in the scenarios you've described. Reckon you need to find a new cinema!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    There is no solution.

    I rarely go to the cinema anymore. Instead I saved up the money I would have spent over 3 or 4 years and got a projector for my front room.

    No idiots. No phones. No noise. No seat kicking. A pause button. Cheap snacks. Comfy sofas. 112inch scope screen.

    Best of all, no feeling of dread that another cinema experience will be ruined by idiots who don't know how to behave in public.

    I did go to see Prometheus and I'll go see TDKR but for the rest, I'll wait for the Blu-Ray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    I find if you leave going to a new movie for a week or 10 days after it opens, theres less idiots in the cinema.also if your flexible, go at off peak times.sometimes you have the whole place to yourself.
    I remember half way through avatar, a phone went off and this guy proceeded to have a full scale chat for 10 minutes thinking no one could hear him.
    Some people are so inconsiderate its not funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Skinfull wrote: »
    Recently I noticed a lot of ****ty behaviour at the cinema. When I went to see Prometheus the guy beside me, had BOTH his hands down the front of his pants (not still...moving) for the majority of the movie. He snorted, grunted and sniffed for the duration as well. Also he had a 2ltr bottle of of coke in the holder between him and his friend and every now and then his friend would shake it, resulting in a wrestling match and a fit of giggling. This was a packed house, so there was no comfort in the "gap seat".

    Yesterday in The Pact, a group of 5 or 6 teens, late teens, talked, played their phones, joked, jostled, pointed out stuff on screen loudly and all that for the whole movie. WTF?! Also some guy in the back was making Donald Duck noises... O_o No amount of telling them to "STFU" was working.

    Towards the end of snow white, a couple of guys came in, walked around the cinema, then left, only to stand near the door and make fighting sounds...not sure what they were trying to do, but the distraction worked.

    Now my local cinema is Cineworld, so, especially on a sat / and tue evening (cheap tickets on tuesdays) there is always an element of scum who have no interest in seeing movies and only in disrupting it, but for the most part its not a problem. But damn...its annoying as hell. :mad::mad:


    I agree that cinema behaviour is on the slide, or maybe it was always dodgy but only noticing now, what I really want to know is, is The Pact worth going to see or should I just wait for dvd? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    The cinema you go to is a major factor. You don't get that in the Light House, IFI, Screen or, generally speaking, The Savoy, although maybe i'm wrong about that one. Its more in cinemas in the suburbs and Cineworld it seems to happen. Not ideal if these cinemas are not convenient for you unfortunately.
    Skangers tend to sit right at the back, so avoid this area. Was at the cinema once when a guy threw a full-size fizzy drink randomly at someone sitting further up and hit him in the head, cue mayhem, and of course the skanger denies everything, presumably was on CCTV :mad:
    Like someone else said i'd try and go at quiet times and if someone or a crowd was disrupting things i'd either move seat quickly to a different area or in a very extreme case i'd just leave.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Haven't noticed that at our local multiplex but, you occasionally get middle aged women discussing the movie like as if they were in their own living room!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Forest Demon


    I thought I was just unlucky :mad:. I don't get to go too often as I have young children but when I do go recently scumbags nearly always ruin it. If its not somebody putting their feet on my seat behind my head or kicking the seat its a bunch of teenagers making noise, using phones and throwing popcorn. I was only saying to my wife that I was not going to bother going after the last time (it was liffey valley cinema by the way).

    They need more security in these places and they need to take action when people cannot enjoy the service that they have paid for.

    Would love a good dedicated home cinema setup but I have not got the money or space :rolleyes: (not a tv but projector, seats, sound system :D).

    Maybe when the children grow up :cool:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,411 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The most important etiqutte of all: wherever possible (regional restrictions granted), go to see the widest range of film you can. Language, genre, director. If you stick with Hollywood, you forefeit all rights to complain about the crapness of blockbusters.

    How does this fall under the umbrella term of etiqutte? Glance at a multiplex screening list and you'll see :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I never go after 5 o clock or on weekends. I avoid films out on their first week and films that may attract kids/teenagers. Ive only had 2 bad instances out of the last year or so. One was 3 skangers who just wouldnt shut up even after the security came in to quiet them down. They even went around to people after the screening asking about who complained about them. The other was an elderly couple who spoke through the whole 1st half of Moneyball and then left with about an hour left.

    I have a major gripe with people arriving late at screenings. There were people coming in 20 minutes after a film started the other day. This was 40 minutes after the film time was advertised due to the ads and trailers :mad:

    cineworld is my cinema btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    staff are too afraid to do anything about these types of people - and to be honest there is a high chance of a staff member getting hurt or the business suffering from multiple broken windows if you do anything.

    We goto Liffey Valley (its either that or Mullingar - its between them for the nearest cinema)...but if you want to find a fantastic cinema without scum/interruptions ...goto Rathmines...Swan cinema !!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Seems to be a pretty clear solution here from what I'm reading, don't go to bloody cineworld! :pac:

    Or you could just make the IFI/Lighthouse your permanent cinemas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭Shane732


    I went to Cineworld quite frequently towards the back end of last year and the start of this year and I must say I didn't experience any difficulty at all.

    It would have been a packed house for the majority of the films I went to on a busy Saturday night.

    I'm single now so the visits to the cinema are few and far between! Maybe things have changed in the last 2/3 months!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    The most important etiqutte of all: wherever possible (regional restrictions granted), go to see the widest range of film you can. Language, genre, director. If you stick with Hollywood, you forefeit all rights to complain about the crapness of blockbusters.

    How does this fall under the umbrella term of etiqutte? Glance at a multiplex screening list and you'll see :)

    While i did mention IFI etc i suppose its not that easy for people with kids. Kids don't want to see arty movies in the Light House and IFI and the films they want to see are in the cinemas outside town and Cineworld so there isn't much that can be done to avoid anti-social behaviour in these cinemas. I don't really blame the cinemas themselves, its a cultural thing, it will not change. All you can do is sit as far from them as possible if you can. There is only so much that can be done, security aren't going to drag teenagers out for shouting and throwing popcorn at people, and to those teenagers that do it it would only become a badge of honour and it would happen more frequently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    That makes my experience with seat kicking and my major annoyance at any kind of talking during films seem completely trivial in comparison. That said seat kickers are incredibly irritating. And the human compulsion for communication in places where silence should be maintained will never cease to dissapoint me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Ive learned the hard way. Best solution to minimise the chances of bad experiences is to avoid opening weekend no matter how much you want to see a film, and then go to an off peak showing time, preferably mid week. I find you get a lot more mature people (both in age and behaviour) at these shows, and alot of people coming in alone who are there to solely see the film. I watched Prometheus on a Wednesday night with maybe 20 people. It was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭KenSwee


    Agricola wrote: »
    Ive learned the hard way. Best solution to minimise the chances of bad experiences is to avoid opening weekend no matter how much you want to see a film, and then go to an off peak showing time, preferably mid week. I find you get a lot more mature people (both in age and behaviour) at these shows, and alot of people coming in alone who are there to solely see the film. I watched Prometheus on a Wednesday night with maybe 20 people. It was great.

    Totally agree, went to see Prometheus last Thursday at 12 noon in Newbridge. Perfect. 4 people there.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,359 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The scum stay well clear of subtitled movies, for obvious reasons.
    They don't tend to be up and about early on a weekend either.

    The Lighthouse in Dublin is not a real habitat of theirs - the name is probably too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I found the cinema much more enjoyable since I started to tell people to shut up when they start talking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    I love seeing people on their own or older people at the cinema, especially in evening showings when it's busier. Going by oneself felt like a bit of a social tabboo in the past as most high profile evening screenings are dominated by young school/college couples or gangs of friends but great to see an increasing number of people taking back the cinema and shirking the perceived stigma.

    It definitely still feels a little bit wierd especially if you're there early to secure a decent seat and have to sit through nothing and ads for 20 minutes whilst everyone talks around you - thank fu©k for smartphones :).

    I know a good few older people who never go to the cinema at all as they don't feel it's for them or that they're "too old" to go. Sad that people feel that way about an experience that everyone should feel equally entitled to enjoy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    While i did mention IFI etc i suppose its not that easy for people with kids. Kids don't want to see arty movies in the Light House and IFI and the films they want to see are in the cinemas outside town and Cineworld so there isn't much that can be done to avoid anti-social behaviour in these cinemas. I don't really blame the cinemas themselves, its a cultural thing, it will not change. All you can do is sit as far from them as possible if you can. There is only so much that can be done, security aren't going to drag teenagers out for shouting and throwing popcorn at people, and to those teenagers that do it it would only become a badge of honour and it would happen more frequently.
    The IFI plays family films often and it's not exclusively arthouse/independent movies either. They have played many big movies such as Inception, The Social Network and King's Speech among others.

    Heck even The Lighthouse has Prometheus on at the moment, in 3D too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Goldstein wrote: »
    I love seeing people on their own or older people at the cinema, especially in evening showings when it's busier. Going by oneself felt like a bit of a social tabboo in the past as most high profile evening screenings are dominated by young school/college couples or gangs of friends but great to see an increasing number of people taking back the cinema and shirking the perceived stigma.

    It definitely still feels a little bit wierd especially if you're there early to secure a decent seat and have to sit through nothing and ads for 20 minutes whilst everyone talks around you - thank fu©k for smartphones :).

    I know a good few older people who never go to the cinema at all as they don't feel it's for them or that they're "too old" to go. Sad that people feel that way about an experience that everyone should feel equally entitled to enjoy.
    If people want to be so ridiculously self conscious that ( GASP! :eek: ) they're afraid of being seen watching a movie alone let them. This stigma will pass in time I think, I'd go so far as saying they're not real film fans if they'll deprive themselves of an amazing movie just because they're friends/partner doesn't want to go. I missed There Will Be Blood in the cinema because I had this attitude and I've regretted it since.

    It is an absurd stigma, do I need to bring friends every time I go to read a book in a library too? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CommanderC


    The most important etiqutte of all: wherever possible (regional restrictions granted), go to see the widest range of film you can. Language, genre, director. If you stick with Hollywood, you forefeit all rights to complain about the crapness of blockbusters.

    How does this fall under the umbrella term of etiqutte? Glance at a multiplex screening list and you'll see :)

    You are a film connoisseur and we are not.

    Message understood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    It's not so much being a connoisseur as not being closed minded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    The cinema you go to is a major factor. You don't get that in the Light House, IFI, Screen or, generally speaking, The Savoy, although maybe i'm wrong about that one. Its more in cinemas in the suburbs and Cineworld it seems to happen. Not ideal if these cinemas are not convenient for you unfortunately.

    It just depends on the cinema's policy. My OH went to Stillorgan yesterday and three youths were messing loudly (one was the instigator). A member of the staff came up and asked him to cool or leave. He talked back so he was told that either he leaves now or they call the manager and all three of them leave. He didn't want to leave so they came back with the manager and threw the three of them out. They tried to hide by changing seats but were found. Good move on the staff's side - they kept their customers (us and presumably the rest of the audience).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,411 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Cinemas aren't going to show a variety of films if people stick with the same stuff. It's really as simple as that, and it impacts upon everyone's cinema experience as a market consensus is reached and quality overall suffers. Id argue it affects the overall cinema experience more than someone checking their phone or whispering in the corner. It's not elitism - it's a basic search for variety.

    And the realisation that one can go on on one's own is the most liberating one can have. Hell it's difficult enough to get my friends out to films they actually want to see, let alone convince them an unknown entity is worth the trip into town.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,699 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I regularly go to Vue, the IFI and the Lighthouse and I can't remember the last time I experienced any problems. Years probably. I tend to go to morning/afternoon showings and the occasional evening one. I almost never go weekends though. The only thing I get annoyed about is people arriving late or going to the toilet every 10 minutes.

    As for going to the cinema on your own, I've been doing this since I was a young teenager. If there's a stigma about it it's news to me. I suppose a 13 year old who can't take a piss unless their mate comes with them might find it strange, but I see loads of people on their own. Don't let other people's insecurities get you down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I have to say our cinema is pretty good. I haven't had a bad experience yet. I did walk out of the Savoy once and asked for a refund, which I got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭SVG


    The most important etiqutte of all: wherever possible (regional restrictions granted), go to see the widest range of film you can. Language, genre, director. If you stick with Hollywood, you forefeit all rights to complain about the crapness of blockbusters.

    How does this fall under the umbrella term of etiqutte? Glance at a multiplex screening list and you'll see :)

    I'm really not sure what this has to do with bad behaviour in cinemas? The OP wasn't complaining about the crapness of blockbusters. And I think even people who just want to see blockbusters deserve to be able to watch their movie in peace.:)

    I'd definitely agree with Crazygerry's advice to leave a few weeks before you see a new film. It definitely seems to weed out a lot of the annoyances.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,411 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I've actually had pretty good experiences in busy evening screenings in Cineworld. Saw both Prometheus and Avengers on opening night with nary a bother - except for the handful of people at The Avengers screening who seemed to be on some sort of laughing gas given their disproportionate reactions to stuff on screen.

    No, early morning / afternoon screenings in Cineworld are where I've had the bother, to the point when I couldn't be arsed going there any more. Both Hellboy 2 and Hunger (which is genuinely the strangest film you could possibly have loutish behaviour at) there were among my most frustrating cinema experiences there, populated by some of Dublin's loudest natives.

    I've had a few frustrating incidents at the IFI - recently an elderly woman who genuinely didn't know how to turn off her phone - but 9 out of 10 times it's quiet and respectful as can be.
    SVG wrote:
    I'm really not sure what this has to do with bad behaviour in cinemas? The OP wasn't complaining about the crapness of blockbusters. And I think even people who just want to see blockbusters deserve to be able to watch their movie in peace.

    TBH it may only be tangibly related, yes, and I apologise if it's considered off topic. But I think it's key to an overall concept of cinema going 'etiquette', as are the frequent claims that there's nothing good in the cinema, because there always is (I'm aware this is a city-centric view, alas). Bad behaviour is a frustation, but to me the lack of independent and foreign cinema in multiplexes is one hundred times more frustrating. For film fans who want the best experience - which in essence is what this thread is about - you have to look at the grander picture, IMO, rather than once off incidences of idiots in the back row (and I go to the cinema a lot, and I'd say well over 9.5 out of 10 times I have no issue with that).


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