US Open 2012 [NO STREAMS!]

nocal

The tee times are out for the US Open - McIlroy, Donald and Westwood have been grouped together. Woods has been grouped with Mickelson and Bubba.

I doubt Rory is overly happy with having to play with Lee Westwood for 2 days.

Tones69

ooooh cant wait

charlieIRL

friends or not, those are 2 great groups for the viewers.

Dr_Colossus

Wow big groupings. Are they random or carefully selected for tv coverage. Think it would be more equitable to have random groupings especially since it could give some amateurs and low profile professionals some of the limelight for a couple of days.

WHIP IT!

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Wow big groupings. Are they random or carefully selected for tv coverage. Think it would be more equitable to have random groupings especially since it could give some amateurs and low profile professionals some of the limelight for a couple of days.

Yeah, but who the f*ck wants to watch em??

Dr.Silly

Tiger is SOOOOOOO going to win

irish bloke

Dr.Silly wrote: »

Tiger is SOOOOOOO going to win

I fancy Westy or Luke, think its there time now.
Lee has a new putter too and it didn't seem to let him down today either.

Tones69

irish bloke wrote: »

I fancy Westy or Luke, think its there time now.
Lee has a new putter too and it didn't seem to let him down today either.

Think luke will struggle with the length there dude, few par 4s over 500 yards, i could be wrong but we will see. Dont fancy westy cos the greens are very very tough

Milkers

I think it will be some relatively low key U.S. player who wins, kind of a Lucas Glover type character.

soundsham

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Wow big groupings. Are they random or carefully selected for tv coverage. Think it would be more equitable to have random groupings especially since it could give some amateurs and low profile professionals some of the limelight for a couple of days.

Random like every other tournament
Random tee times too I'd say

Milkers

soundsham wrote: »

Random like every other tournament
Random tee times too I'd say

Actually like some other big tournaments they are hand picked. There are also some traditional groupings but they are at the discretion of the organisers.

For example this is from 2010:

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/fun-with-us-open-groupings/

AGC

Think Furyk will go well. Likes the type of set up and showing some form.

Mickleson won't like that grouping, he tried to out-do Bubba at every chance last week and failed misrebly.

golfandcourse

I was able to find the US Open tee times anywhere else in an easy format so I've added them here;
US Open 1st round tee times

Does anyone know when the "to be determined" players will be confirmed and on what basis they'll be picked?

Nedser101

Kuchar at 40/1 can't be passed up!

getoffthepot

Jason Dufner can't be left out either

Dermoth

Heading out Wednesday for the four days. I think Dustin Johnson at 40/1 is worth getting on.

GreeBo

Dermoth wrote: »

Heading out Wednesday for the four days. I think Dustin Johnson at 40/1 is worth getting on.

Especially after today!
Good shout.

golfnut1

I reckon Louis Oosthuizen will be the man to beat

Dr.Silly

Tiger Woods 13/2
Blake Adams 300/1
Adam Scott 40/1

Dr.Silly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=err0GlnBKLg

AGC

Nedser101 wrote: »

Kuchar at 40/1 can't be passed up!

Where did you see that?

Dr.Silly

AGC wrote: »

Where did you see that?

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/Golf/The-OpenGolf/The-Open-t110000187

Johnny_Fontane

oostuizen at 59/1
mcilroy at 16/1

surely 16/1 is a big price for a guy who won this last year, hits it miles and was in contention last week? Wasnt he like 8/1 at the masters?

Nuri Sahin

Can't wait for this as it's a brilliant course from what I saw of it in the President's Cup a few years ago now. Tiger enjoyed himself that week.

Eric the Eagle

-Ade- wrote: »

Can't wait for this as it's a brilliant course from what I saw of it in the President's Cup a few years ago now. Tiger enjoyed himself that week.

I think the Presidents cup was held at a different course in San Francisco, it wasn't the Olympic Club.

Tones69

Tiger is 6/1 and Rory is 16/1 lol typical. If I hear "WOODS IS BACK" once more il scream

slave1

I've given up betting after having Bubba as the money winner for this year and then him taking weeks off but as an outsider I'd fancy Ken Duke, consistent if not spectacular

Tones69

slave1 wrote: »

I've given up betting after having Bubba as the money winner for this year and then him taking weeks off but as an outsider I'd fancy Ken Duke, consistent if not spectacular

Dunno if ken can hack this course to finish top 10 dude

newport2

Tones69 wrote: »

Tiger is 6/1 and Rory is 16/1 lol typical. If I hear "WOODS IS BACK" once more il scream

Absolutely. It's up there with the "ROSE BLOOMS" headlines bi-annually, usually followed up with "ROSE WILTS" a day or two later.

That said, I do think Woods is back. You heard it here.

Johnny_Fontane

Tones69 wrote: »

Tiger is 6/1 and Rory is 16/1 lol typical. If I hear "WOODS IS BACK" once more il scream

Woods is back

Nedser101

AGC got a few bets on pp last week ,thought was good value Kuchar @40/1 furyk@66/1keegan 66/1 here's hoping.

Benicetomonty

Must admit I can see Kuchar going well, having challenged at Augusta and playing so well as an amateur at the Olympic Club back in '98.

Bubba Watson could run away with it (hear me out here!); the way he can shape the ball is exactly what you need off the tee around that place, and he won't even need the driver to do it, at least not as much as the other players. That said, I think he'll give the big dog the benefit of the doubt whether he needs it or not, and is therefore as likely to blow up and miss the cut as he is to contend.

Regardless, I said I'd be backing Westwood after Augusta no matter what his odds were, and I'm sticking to it. He's the best ball-striker in the world and what's more, he knows it. After Sweden, his confidence must be crazy high and I really think he'll go in feeling that Olympic was made for him. If the course is set up like '98 it'll be hack it out sideways stuff off of missed fairways, and Westwood's consistency with the driver can make up for an average, if not a poor, putting week. I think if he stops feeling he's owed a major, this'll be his week!

Dermoth

Eric the Eagle wrote: »

I think the Presidents cup was held at a different course in San Francisco, it wasn't the Olympic Club.

I'm pretty sure it was in Harding Park and not Olympic.

spacecoyote

So Casey has dropped out & will be replaced by 14 year old Andy Zhang!!!

How mental is that

JerryHandbag

spacecoyote wrote: »

So Casey has dropped out & will be replaced by 14 year old Andy Zhang!!!

How mental is that

Born in 1998? Same year US Open was last at the Olympic Club....he's gonna win! :pac:

Tones69

500 yard par 4s gonna be some test for a 14 yr old! holy molys

Tones69

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Must admit I can see Kuchar going well, having challenged at Augusta and playing so well as an amateur at the Olympic Club back in '98.

Bubba Watson could run away with it (hear me out here!); the way he can shape the ball is exactly what you need off the tee around that place, and he won't even need the driver to do it, at least not as much as the other players. That said, I think he'll give the big dog the benefit of the doubt whether he needs it or not, and is therefore as likely to blow up and miss the cut as he is to contend.

Regardless, I said I'd be backing Westwood after Augusta no matter what his odds were, and I'm sticking to it. He's the best ball-striker in the world and what's more, he knows it. After Sweden, his confidence must be crazy high and I really think he'll go in feeling that Olympic was made for him. If the course is set up like '98 it'll be hack it out sideways stuff off of missed fairways, and Westwood's consistency with the driver can make up for an average, if not a poor, putting week. I think if he stops feeling he's owed a major, this'll be his week!

Id put a 10 with you that he wont even finish top 20

TRS30

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Must admit I can see Kuchar going well, having challenged at Augusta and playing so well as an amateur at the Olympic Club back in '98.

Bubba Watson could run away with it (hear me out here!); the way he can shape the ball is exactly what you need off the tee around that place, and he won't even need the driver to do it, at least not as much as the other players. That said, I think he'll give the big dog the benefit of the doubt whether he needs it or not, and is therefore as likely to blow up and miss the cut as he is to contend.

Regardless, I said I'd be backing Westwood after Augusta no matter what his odds were, and I'm sticking to it. He's the best ball-striker in the world and what's more, he knows it. After Sweden, his confidence must be crazy high and I really think he'll go in feeling that Olympic was made for him. If the course is set up like '98 it'll be hack it out sideways stuff off of missed fairways, and Westwood's consistency with the driver can make up for an average, if not a poor, putting week. I think if he stops feeling he's owed a major, this'll be his week!

Am not sure about the Bubba theory. The show I was watching last night said it suited right handers who fade the ball where as at Augusta it was opposite. I know he can do it both ways but think he is more comfortable with the fade (it's really a slice but for pro's it's called a fade or at worst a power fade!!)

Borisss

Tones69 wrote: »

Tiger is 6/1 and Rory is 16/1 lol typical. If I hear "WOODS IS BACK" once more il scream

Hasn't Tiger won twice in five starts?

On recent form, those prices aren't far off.

Backing D. Johnson myself.

Tones69

TRS30 wrote: »

Am not sure about the Bubba theory. The show I was watching last night said it suited right handers who fade the ball where as at Augusta it was opposite. I know he can do it both ways but think he is more comfortable with the fade (it's really a slice but for pro's it's called a fade or at worst a power fade!!)

I think we all know the difference in a slice and a fade, the same way we nkow the diff in a draw and a hook

newport2

Tones69 wrote: »

500 yard par 4s gonna be some test for a 14 yr old! holy molys

If he's hitting irons into them at the age of 14 then I've decided officially that I don't like him. :mad:

Tones69

Borisss wrote: »

Hasn't Tiger won twice in five starts?

On recent form, those prices aren't far off.

Backing D. Johnson myself.

Yeah and he pulled out of 2 of the others. Rorys form has been a heap of top 5s and 2 wins. Minus the 3 missed cuts but thats besides the point lol. Good outing last week too, i just think its madness the way Tiger is twice the favourite to win as rory is, considering he won it last year too

Tones69

newport2 wrote: »

If he's hitting irons into them at the age of 14 then I've decided officially that I don't like him. :mad:

Ive played with a few 15 yr olds that would hit irons into 500+ yarders so I dont think that 14 yr old will have much probs hitting irons into that first hole, that is of course if he doesnt end up in the trees

Borisss

Tones69 wrote: »

Yeah and he pulled out of 2 of the others. Rorys form has been a heap of top 5s and 2 wins. Minus the 3 missed cuts but thats besides the point lol. Good outing last week too, i just think its madness the way Tiger is twice the favourite to win as rory is, considering he won it last year too

He also blew up at the Masters in the same year.

Odds on Majors are not the same as regular tour events.

Mickelson is hacking about alot lately and you'll still find him short enough in odds, given form.

The favourites are generally the ones who have been proven to get it done consistently.

Couldn't be having McIlroy a short price favourite in any major just yet, just my two cents.

ssbob

Harrington will have a good tournament I feel, he really does prefer low scoring tough courses and his driving accuracy and GIR stats have improved immensely this year. I predict a Top 10 for Harry Paddington.

Think Martin Kaymer is due a good tournament and he is a natural fader of the golf ball with a great temperment(spelling) for the game. Possible winner.

David Toms is also very accurate off the tee and could be in contention.

For me Tiger wins though.

Tones69

Borisss wrote: »

He also blew up at the Masters in the same year.

Odds on Majors are not the same as regular tour events.

Mickelson is hacking about alot lately and you'll still find him short enough in odds, given form.

The favourites are generally the ones who have been proven to get it done consistently.

Couldn't be having McIlroy a short price favourite in any major just yet, just my two cents.

And Tiger fits into that category? 8 years ago he might have, not any more IMO. Ah we'l just agree to disagree

Dr.Silly

I'm not convinced Rory can handle the pressure. His hook shot on 18 just showed that again last week.

Degag

spacecoyote wrote: »

So Casey has dropped out & will be replaced by 14 year old Andy Zhang!!!

How mental is that

I'd like to know how he was given the spot. Did he barely miss out to qualify or what?

Tones69

Dr.Silly wrote: »

I'm not convinced Rory can handle the pressure. His hook shot on 18 just showed that again last week.

Dont think its a matter of that anymore, hes used to it now. That little mishap on 18 was more from adrenaline from the 17th birdie if you ask me, that tied with the fact he birdied 18 friday and saturday meant probably the exact opposite, really went after it as he fancied himself for the bird

Dr.Silly

Tones69 wrote: »

Dont think its a matter of that anymore, hes used to it now. That little mishap on 18 was more from adrenaline from the 17th birdie if you ask me, that tied with the fact he birdied 18 friday and saturday meant probably the exact opposite, really went after it as he fancied himself for the bird

I'd have to disagree, I don't think it was anything but nerves, not adrenaline. Same shot on the 10th in the Masters last year

Borisss

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