**Ordinary Level Maths Paper 1...Before/After**

Raeone

So thought I'd make it, to keep everything in the one place..

Everyone ready for it?

Really nervous I won't do as good as I want, I want to get high in this.

HowAreWe

Question 4 then Question 6,7,8 a bitta question 2 and finish it off with the lovely question 1.

Schonie

I think I'm actually fairly okay on this...have geography before it so I'm studying for that and will look over maths in the time between the exams:p
I dropped down from higher two months ago so this is heaven for me...
I wish everyone luck tomorrow though;)

smithy77

I'll try answer every question apart from Sequences & Series.. Hopefully the questions are manageable especially the Part C's

FifaClubs Conor

Cant wait for this after the torture my hand experienced in english. Should be handy enough going to do Q 1,2,3,4,5 and 7.

Schonie

smithy77 wrote: »

I'll try answer every question apart from Sequences & Series.. Hopefully the questions are manageable especially the Part C's

Love how everyone hates sequences & series when it's my favorite question...and then algebra and then differentiation and functions...never liked complex numbers for some reason

Killian In The Name Of

Gonna do a crap load of exam paper questions tonight, hope it'll be alright

smithy77

Schonie wrote: »

Love how everyone hates sequences & series when it's my favorite question...and then algebra and then differentiation and functions...never liked complex numbers for some reason

We didn't do sequences & series in class:p .. Complex numbers isn't too bad just knowing the rules with complex conjugates and modulus's etc and that's about it.

Schonie

smithy77 wrote: »

We didn't do sequences & series in class:p .. Complex numbers isn't too bad just knowing the rules with complex conjugates and modulus's etc and that's about it.

Alright:) It's actually a very nice question...there are only two people, including me in my class doing it...it's basically based on formulas that are in the log tables...
I know that they are not bad but I think I still have a major fear of them after the higher level stuff lol:o

Raeone

I think sequences and series is the easiest question on the paper 1
I'm worried I'll mess up in the fuctions and differentiation thought The last C part can be quite tricky.

When we draw a graph, are we ment to draw it by hand or with a rular??

Edit: I don't mean the x and y axis, I mean connecting the plots.

smithy77

Raeone wrote: »

I think sequences and series is the easiest question on the paper 1
I'm worried I'll mess up in the fuctions and differentiation thought The last C part can be quite tricky.

When we draw a graph, are we ment to draw it by hand or with a rular??

Edit: I don't mean the x and y axis, I mean connecting the plots.

It depends on whether its a curve or straight line I should think:pac:

Mayo_Boy

Im fairly screwed. Any tips on what to study for this?

motorola1337

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Im fairly screwed. Any tips on what to study for this?

Well just pick the questions you want to do cuz theyre pretty much the same year after year....like am doin 1,2,3,4,6,7.....so just keep doing them questions from previous years and youll be grand :P

HowAreWe

hmm looking at those question 5's, haven't done them in class but they look alright, any rules I should look at?

Mysteriouschic

I don't have time to practice maths with geography I might practice sequences and series my grinds person only taught me it this week.

Beware

Got a C in the mocks with no study so I reckon I should do OK, as I am studying this time!

I'd like to get a B, but since I'm not counting it for points, I'll be happy with a pass .

Namlub

Remember at the start of 5th year being convinced you'd get a A just because it's pass? :pac:

Don't need it for points but I don't want to do embarrassingly badly either

Princessxx

Going to try and avoid Question 5 myself hate them so much :mad:
looking for around a B2 in maths absolutely dreading paper 2 though praying they will be easy papers though :P

Raeone

How much of a leap are people trying to make from the mocks?

Nic Neptune

Happy so long as I get a pass - don't need to count the points. I'm ****e at maths though lol.

smithy77

Got a C3 in the mocks and need a C3 again:cool:

bazinga_

so i've been doing ordinary maths for a few months now but i don't have a teacher so could someone tell me if there's an order for the questions, like in higher level you know qs 6,7,8 are differentiation/integration etc?
and also what are the hardest parts of the paper i should concentrate on?

smithy77

Q.1 = Arithmetic
Q.2 = Algebra
Q.3 = Algebra
Q.4 = Complex Numbers
Q.5 = Sequence & Series
Q.6 = Functions & Differentiation
Q.7 = Differentiation
Q.8 = Functions & Differentiation

bazinga_

smithy77 wrote: »

Q.1 = Arithmetic
Q.2 = Algebra
Q.3 = Algebra
Q.4 = Complex Numbers
Q.5 = Sequence & Series
Q.6 = Functions & Differentiation
Q.7 = Differentiation
Q.8 = Functions & Differentiation

thank you just another quick question, is diff the same as higher? and what are functions? thanks a mill, the book for this year was out of print by the time i dropped so i only have an old one and i don't know what i can leave out cos of project maths!

biohaiid

Not worried. Haven't done much study .. at all. But then again there's not much you can do. After Geography gonna do a few questions in school. Be grand.

smithy77

bazinga_ wrote: »

thank you just another quick question, is diff the same as higher? and what are functions? thanks a mill, the book for this year was out of print by the time i dropped so i only have an old one and i don't know what i can leave out cos of project maths!

I'm not sure about the differentiation. But functions is something like:

f(x) = x(cubed) - 3x + 1
Find f(2)

Sub 2 in for X:

(2)cubed - 3(2) + 1 = 8 - 6 + 1 = 3, Co-ordinates = (2,3)

And they might ask you to draw a graph after finding the co-ordinates by using that method.

Killian In The Name Of

I'm absolutely useless at Maths, and I failed the Mock as well. Not looking forward to this.

Whatsisname

I failed the pre, despite Maths being my best result in my Christmas tests..oddly.

Been getting grinds ever since though, so hopefully it goes well enough!

ismiseaoife

Is anybody here a pilot school?
I'm doing paper 1 ordinary project maths tomorrow and I am screwed..
I haven't had a teacher all year & I didn't do the mocks due to a death in the family so I honestly don't know what to expect!!
Someone help?

ConTheCat

If this wasn't on the same day as Geography I could get an A1. My school does all the questions except Q.5. Need to practice my part c's at lunch tomorrow! Have all papers done back to 2008 in the last few weeks

Naomi00

ismiseaoife wrote: »

Is anybody here a pilot school?
I'm doing paper 1 ordinary project maths tomorrow and I am screwed..
I haven't had a teacher all year & I didn't do the mocks due to a death in the family so I honestly don't know what to expect!!
Someone help?

I am too

I'm completely screwed for tomorrow, the teacher I had was awful, she hardly showed up to class in 5th year so we all missed out on a lot.

It's going to be awful..

ismiseaoife

Naomi00 wrote: »

I am too

I'm completely screwed for tomorrow, the teacher I had was awful, she hardly showed up to class in 5th year so we all missed out on a lot.

It's going to be awful..

Thank God Im not alone! I hate how we don't get a choice in our questions or anything, really leaves it limited Going to cry!

Carrick_10

Hey I was just wondering I got 25% ordinary level maths in the mocks is there much of a chance of me passing the real thing now? Im really **** at maths but I have slightly improved since the mocks, but I don't know I have this gut feeling that im going to fail and I only need a pass in it cause i'm not counting it for points:(

donvito99

Questions 6 & 8 can GO FUPP THEMSELVES

Cruel Sun

donvito99 wrote: »

Questions 6 & 8 can GO FUPP THEMSELVES

Same never even bothered learning them ones

kilianmanning

54 in the mocks, which wasn't great considering I thought the paper was easy.. Need a c3 minimum, hopefully I get it:)

FifaClubs Conor

FifaClubs Conor wrote: »

Cant wait for this after the torture my hand experienced in english. Should be handy enough going to do Q 1,2,3,4,5 and 7.

Im the exact same as ya haha

An0n

It's probably the same every single year for the last 10 years.

Only thing that will change really are the themes of the (c) questions.

I'm kindof looking forward to seeing what comes up.

I'll be doing Q. 1,2,3,4,6,7,8 regardless of difficulty. [:

An0n

kilianmanning wrote: »

54 in the mocks, which wasn't great considering I thought the paper was easy.. Need a c3 minimum, hopefully I get it:)

You'll get it don't worry.

The part (a) questions are usually 15 marks! Which is insanely easy to get.
That's at least 30% for you.
The difficult questions (c) usually only carry 5 or 10 marks so don't get bogged down or frustrated with them.

Take your time. You will definitely get what you're looking for. :}

Naomi00

Does everyone else still do the old syllabus for paper 1?

Namlub

If differentiation from first principles comes up and you just just differentiate it normally in your head and write down the answer would you still get like a mark? I will never understand this concept

smithy77

Namlub wrote: »

If differentiation from first principles comes up and you just just differentiate it normally in your head and write down the answer would you still get like a mark? I will never understand this concept

I'm not sure. Its not too bad:

Question) f(x) = 3x(squared) + 4 with first principles.

1) sub (x+h) in for x and work it out.. 3(x+h)squared + 4 = 3x(squared) + 6xh + 3h(squared) + 4 ( (x+h)(x+h) = x(squared) + 2xh = h(squared) )
2) (x+h) - f(x).. 3x(squared) + 6xh + 3h(squared) + 4 - 3x(squared) - 4
3) Divide by h... 6x + 3h
4) Put h=0.. 6x + 3(0)

Answer = 6x

Not great example but if it helps then how bad:p

An0n

Namlub wrote: »

If differentiation from first principles comes up and you just just differentiate it normally in your head and write down the answer would you still get like a mark? I will never understand this concept

Really quickly go watch Khan academy's introduction to calculus and his differentiation videos.

If you can understand it; then you can do it easy! (:

Namlub

Ohh thanks, just wrote that it there and it makes sense! The notes I was using had all triangles or something? If I manage to use this properly tomorrow I owe you one
Edit: Thanks AnOn too

smithy77

Yeah I saw the triangle method before and it makes no sense, the f(x+h) method is easier in my opinion:)

whiteandlight

The triangle and the h are the same thing. And no you get no attempt for differentiating without first principles. And a bit of advice-go to bed

Astrozombies

bitta calculus be graaand

Zomg Okay

Anybody give me a quick hand with this one?

2011; Paper 1; Q.2 (c)

Let f(x) = x(cubed)-2(x)(squared)+c(x)+d.

(i) Given that f(0)=6, find the value of d.
(ii) Given that f(3)=0, find the value of c.
(iii) Hence, solve the equation f(x) = 0.

I got that d = 6 and c = -5 but part (iii) has me stumped. Any ideas?

xxkathrynbxx

If u get all part a's right and a few b parts will u pass!?? Extremely worried about it!!

snoreborewhore

Zomg Okay wrote: »

Anybody give me a quick hand with this one?

2011; Paper 1; Q.2 (c)

Let f(x) = x(cubed)-2(x)(squared)+c(x)+d.

(i) Given that f(0)=6, find the value of d.
(ii) Given that f(3)=0, find the value of c.
(iii) Hence, solve the equation f(x) = 0.

I got that d = 6 and c = -5 but part (iii) has me stumped. Any ideas?

Sub in c and d into the original equation first.
Then you solve the equation by long division because you're given f(3)=0 so therefore x-3=0
Then divide x(cubed)-2x(squared) - 5x + 6 by x -3 and there's your answer!

Bonavox

xxkathrynbxx wrote: »

If u get all part a's right and a few b parts will u pass!?? Extremely worried about it!!

There's a lot of emphasis on "getting them right" when in truth, most of the marks go for the process. Go into the exam and do the questions you know, and if you don't know something, write down what you think might be the right method. If you do that, there's not a big chance of you failing.

You'll be grand.