** Higher Level Maths Paper 1 2012 Before/After **

DepoProvera

So, I thought I'd take the initiative.

Have an alright feeling about this one, but I'm sure my tune will be different tomorrow.

earwax_man

Ha, I was just creating this thread! You beat me to it
I'm hoping on 7 questions, Q 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8; I've covered sequences and series, but I'm staying away from that with a barge-pole!
Hopefully DeMoivre's theorem will appear on Q3, the factor theorem for Q1 and any area proof for Q8.
My first principles with sin and cos are f*cked!

Some motivation.

IRA 1916

I wanna do questions 1, 2, 6, 7, 8 and i'm still not sure about my last one. I reckon I'll fail paper 1

Incompetent

I'm only doing 6. I haven't covered the material outside 1,2,3,6,7,8, so hopefully they don't throw stuff from outside If they do what's likely? Induction?

Canard

I shudder to think what I'll post in this thread tomorrow. If its anything like English P2 I'm gonna be slaughtered.

ChemHickey

Am I the only one looking forward to paper 1? I really looking forward to it! I hope it goes well anyway! <3

ImFudged

Living off attempt marks. Project maths FTW

SureYWouldntYa

Alpha and Beta question tomorrow, any money. Matrices A and C hopefully for 3. Nice easy q5 in case differentiation is hard. Integration will be straightforward hopefully

Stalin and rugby

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Alpha and Beta question tomorrow, any money. Matrices A and C hopefully for 3. Nice easy q5 in case differentiation is hard. Integration will be straightforward hopefully

Integration? Straightforward? Juxtaposition me thinks. That ain't possible

SureYWouldntYa

Stalin and rugby wrote: »

Integration? Straightforward? Juxtaposition me thinks. That ain't possible

Generally, its the same questions year on year. Hardest part is when ya have to compete the square but its better than induction or a sequences and series part C

ImFudged

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Alpha and Beta question tomorrow, any money. Matrices A and C hopefully for 3. Nice easy q5 in case differentiation is hard. Integration will be straightforward hopefully

The only maths words I understood there were integration and differentiation.. Ut oh

DepoProvera

I've covered all 8 Qs.. I'll do Q5 unless it's a inequality induction.

And I'm thinking induction of diff rule will come up. To the lad above, Factor Theorem..? Really? It was up last year, no?

Orange juice

Intend to do all 8 questions! I'd say proof of product/ quoitent or addition rule could come up? Maybe inequality or series induction?
Hopefully a nice sequence and series! Teloscoping!!

Wkds

Whats the maximum amount of proofs that could come up?

SellingJuan

Orange juice wrote: »

Intend to do all 8 questions! I'd say proof of product/ quoitent or addition rule could come up? Maybe inequality or series induction?
Hopefully a nice sequence and series! Teloscoping!!

Which question is addition rule... Please tell me

ChemHickey

SellingJuan wrote: »

Orange juice wrote: »

Intend to do all 8 questions! I'd say proof of product/ quoitent or addition rule could come up? Maybe inequality or series induction?
Hopefully a nice sequence and series! Teloscoping!!

Which question is addition rule... Please tell me

Doubt addition will come up but q6

Chuchoter

What with Paper 2 being so theorem/definition heavy, I doubt we'll see any major proof business on paper 1

IRA 1916

Chuchoter wrote: »

What with Paper 2 being so theorem/definition heavy, I doubt we'll see any major proof business on paper 1

I seriously feckin hope so

leaveiton

Sh*tting it to be honest.

Meowth

Please be gentle paper 1 I need this to go well

leaveiton

Actually I've a really important question, if I start a question but decide that it's wrong and put brackets around it/faintly cross it out, but then it turns out to actually be right, do they still mark it or do they ignore it because I've crossed it out?

cocopopsxx

leaveiton wrote: »

Actually I've a really important question, if I start a question but decide that it's wrong and put brackets around it/faintly cross it out, but then it turns out to actually be right, do they still mark it or do they ignore it because I've crossed it out?

I did EXACTLY the same thing in English today....... :O

Incompetent

leaveiton wrote: »

Actually I've a really important question, if I start a question but decide that it's wrong and put brackets around it/faintly cross it out, but then it turns out to actually be right, do they still mark it or do they ignore it because I've crossed it out?

I've heard they can be sound like that. Let's hope so

raindodger

What's the bet that Paper 1 isn't gonna go down without a fight and they'll throw the worst possible s**t at us?

Random_Person

leaveiton wrote: »

Actually I've a really important question, if I start a question but decide that it's wrong and put brackets around it/faintly cross it out, but then it turns out to actually be right, do they still mark it or do they ignore it because I've crossed it out?

Correctors mark EVERYTHING. If you cross something out don't do it to the extent that it's illegible. If you cross out the right answer and then do it again but wrong they'll mark both of them and give you the higher marks.

Don't rub ANYTHING out or use any Tipp-Ex

partyatmygaff

If you know how to do Q5, do it. It's usually one of the most straightforward questions on the paper.

Mista

I'm only doing Qs 1,2,3,5,6 and 7... Hope to god they don't throw in any random crap into Q5 like they did in 2007

And how likely are differenciation proofs to come up?

leaveiton

Random_Person wrote: »

Correctors mark EVERYTHING. If you cross something out don't do it to the extent that it's illegible. If you cross out the right answer and then do it again but wrong they'll mark both of them and give you the higher marks.

Don't rub ANYTHING out or use any Tipp-Ex

You 100% sure? I always thought they did but someone told me they don't mark it if you cross it out, even if it's legibile.

IRA 1916

If I fail paper 1 and pass paper 2 by enough to give me more than 40% do I still pass even though I failed paper 1

Random_Person

leaveiton wrote: »

You 100% sure? I always thought they did but someone told me they don't mark it if you cross it out, even if it's legibile.

Every teacher in my school says it and I have never heard otherwise. If you want to start again just put a single line through your answer and start again. The easier you make it for the examiner to see your answers the better.

DepoProvera

IRA 1916 wrote: »

If I fail paper 1 and pass paper 2 by enough to give me more than 40% do I still pass even though I failed paper 1

Yes, it's your total score.

WarZoneBrother

Is everyone here doing Higher Leavel? I am doing Ordinary Level, might just do some exam papers tonight...

IRA 1916

DepoProvera wrote: »

Yes, it's your total score.

Well thank Jesus for that should be ok then

DepoProvera

2% failure rate in pilot schools lads. Although apparently a lower A1 rate

Spattersonox

P1 is going to be a ****. Paper 2 will be doable..

You know, so they can prove project Maths is wonderful and we're all so much better at it!

leaveiton

Random_Person wrote: »

Every teacher in my school says it and I have never heard otherwise. If you want to start again just put a single line through your answer and start again. The easier you make it for the examiner to see your answers the better.

Phew, that's a relief

Enda93

I don't know but I really like sequences and series and I'd say it might not be too bad, people should keep an open mind and study it a little just in case one of the other questions is demented...

Anro

This is pretty much my attitude for tomorrow

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DjOL2we8ko

Bubbleope

failed paper 1 in the mocks. (higher level) but passed altogether.
wondering if i should drop down??
i'm so confused like. i don't want to fail my leaving cert but i think i have a chance of passing this. O: ahh ): help?
anyone in the same situation!? ahh

IRA 1916

Bubbleope wrote: »

failed paper 1 in the mocks. (higher level) but passed altogether.
wondering if i should drop down??
i'm so confused like. i don't want to fail my leaving cert but i think i have a chance of passing this. O: ahh ): help?
anyone in the same situation!? ahh

Yeah but I reckon I'll pass overall

Spattersonox

Bubbleope wrote: »

failed paper 1 in the mocks. (higher level) but passed altogether.
wondering if i should drop down??
i'm so confused like. i don't want to fail my leaving cert but i think i have a chance of passing this. O: ahh ): help?
anyone in the same situation!? ahh

All I have to say is --- 25 extra points

full weekend to study for P2

leaveiton

Bubbleope wrote: »

failed paper 1 in the mocks. (higher level) but passed altogether.
wondering if i should drop down??
i'm so confused like. i don't want to fail my leaving cert but i think i have a chance of passing this. O: ahh ): help?
anyone in the same situation!? ahh

What percentage did you get in the mock?

lemonz

So could anyone fill me in if I'm missing any proofs I need to know for Paper I? Only doing Q 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.

> Factor Theorem
> De Moivre's Theorem
> First Principles x^2, x^3, 1/x, square root of x, sin x, cos x.
> Sum, Product and Quotient Rule.

IRA 1916

lemonz wrote: »

So could anyone fill me in if I'm missing any proofs I need to know for Paper I? Only doing Q 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.

> Factor Theorem
> De Moivre's Theorem
> First Principles x^2, x^3, 1/x, square root of x, sin x, cos x.
> Sum, Product and Quotient Rule.

Area of disc and stuff for Q8

Bubbleope

IRA 1916 wrote: »

Yeah but I reckon I'll pass overall

hmmm we can hope for the best i suppose! S:

Spattersonox wrote: »

All I have to say is --- 25 extra points

full weekend to study for P2

that's true!! but i also have to study for irish.. which i have not yet started studying cause i am a fool. /:

leaveiton wrote: »

What percentage did you get in the mock?

only 43%. S: but! i've had grinds since the mocks and i have been studying it. i'm not completely sure i'll pass though. not sure if i should risk it for the biscuit that is 25 extra points. S:

leaveiton

Bubbleope wrote: »

only 43%. S: but! i've had grinds since the mocks and i have been studying it. i'm not completely sure i'll pass though. not sure if i sure risk it for the biscuit that is 25 extra points. S:

What did you get in paper 1 though? I'm sure you'll be fine after getting the grinds

Orange juice

lemonz wrote: »

So could anyone fill me in if I'm missing any proofs I need to know for Paper I? Only doing Q 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.

> Factor Theorem
> De Moivre's Theorem
> First Principles x^2, x^3, 1/x, square root of x, sin x, cos x.
> Sum, Product and Quotient Rule.

Proof by induction for the differential rule. It came up in Q6 in 2006 but Q5 in 1996.

DepoProvera

lemonz wrote: »

So could anyone fill me in if I'm missing any proofs I need to know for Paper I? Only doing Q 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8.

> Factor Theorem
> De Moivre's Theorem
> First Principles x^2, x^3, 1/x, square root of x, sin x, cos x.
> Sum, Product and Quotient Rule.

You're missing induction proof of nx^n-1 came up Q6 2006.

edit: grawr ^^

IRA 1916

Bubbleope wrote: »

hmmm we can hope for the best i suppose! S:



that's true!! but i also have to study for irish.. which i have not yet started studying cause i am a fool. /:


only 43%. S: but! i've had grinds since the mocks and i have been studying it. i'm not completely sure i'll pass though. not sure if i should risk it for the biscuit that is 25 extra points. S:

If you get 38% in Higher you get 70 points, if you get 100% in Ordinary you get 60 points

iLaura

Bubbleope wrote: »

only 43%. S: but! i've had grinds since the mocks and i have been studying it. i'm not completely sure i'll pass though. not sure if i should risk it for the biscuit that is 25 extra points. S:

I'm in the exact same boat as you. Just passed the mocks, but then I didn't study for the exam at all and since Easter after I did a George Humprey/Brendan Guildea course, I've done at least 5 Paper 1's.

I just hope it's going to be nice 'cause they need to prove that Project Maths is working and stuff and we'll all pass and go to college and not have to repeat

QueenOfLeon

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Is everyone here doing Higher Leavel? I am doing Ordinary Level, might just do some exam papers tonight...

The ordinary level thread is here