Junior Cert 2012: Irish (Higher Level)

Bazinga_N

Irish Paper One
Thursday, June 7th
9.30am - 11.30am


Irish Paper Two
Thursday, June 7th
2.45pm - 4.15pm

All discussion and questions about Higher Level Irish Paper One & Paper Two goes here!

Good luck everyone!

Eoghan24

I keep getting the feeling that I'm going to end up like what happened in my listening mocks and miss most of the answers.Hopefully the essay won't be hard because it's what I'm best at in Irish.So long as I understand what wants me to write about anyway.

Junokevv

I'm guessing Modh Coinniolach will be on in the Trialacha Teanga section.

2creator

Junokevv wrote: »

I'm guessing Modh Coinniolach will be on in the Trialacha Teanga section.

Oh jesus Christ I hope not. I know nome of the irregular verbs in the MC

The One Who Knocks

Went okay, listening was impossible, comprehensions were a piece of piss, grammar was okay, present to future, and essay was disco but I said I got into a fight and then did timpiste!

Powerhouse

Jamez735 wrote: »

Went okay, listening was impossible, comprehensions were a piece of piss, grammar was okay, present to future, and essay was disco but I said I got into a fight and then did timpiste!

Was that 'eachtra a tharla?'

nickys

Daughter said tape was very hard.... but was able to do Timpiste so was happy enough with that and the comrpehensions

dalta5billion

Justin Bieber came up on the mocks... I call shenanigans.

liadhan1

what were the other essay and debate titles, also what was the topic of the other comprehensions

dalta5billion

Other than that, what a lovely Paper 1. Paper 2 will be rock hard I guess.

The grammar section appeared revised, with clearer instructions + identifying where tiosal ginodach was used.

The One Who Knocks

Powerhouse wrote: »

Was that 'eachtra a tharla?'

yup!

the eactra/sceal section, b part 2,

briant16

What did you use for the second comprehension were u had to say which alt it goes in ?

The One Who Knocks

briant16 wrote: »

What did you use for the second comprehension were u had to say which alt it goes in ?

For Q4. = ALT 4
For Q5. = ALT 2 (may have been alt 3)

I'm pretty sure q4 is right, though

ButtonBox

I used the first story option thing. It was like, " "Is bullaíocht í. Déanfaidh mé rud faoi seo anois.." arsa m'athair liom."
And I said they were on their way to the school to talk to the principal, when go tobann, they were in a car accident. Timpiste! XD

The One Who Knocks

ButtonBox wrote: »

I used the first story option thing. It was like, " "Is bullaíocht í. Déanfaidh mé rud faoi seo anois.." arsa m'athair liom."
And I said they were on their way to the school to talk to the principal, when go tobann, they were in a car accident. Timpiste! XD

You gotta love timpiste!

DaleHyland

dalta5billion wrote: »

Other than that, what a lovely Paper 1. Paper 2 will be rock hard I guess.

The grammar section appeared revised, with clearer instructions + identifying where tiosal ginodach was used.

Was the answer by any chance "ti?" I thought the Q meant, Ainsigh an ainmfocail" is that "name the name word sa tiosal ginodach"? I thought that question was very unclear.

ButtonBox

Yep! Easy and you can nearly always use it. :P

Now to cram for Paper two.. Yay poetry..
What do ye all have studied?

theginger

I thought it was grand! Had great fun with the essay! First disco=> friends drinking => falls and hits her head => TIMPISTE!
Listening was grand , questions a bit vague though why were they congratulatin him? I said because he won and they were proud

DaleHyland

Ode to Joy! I feel like I got 10/10 on that section, beaming! That makes me very happy. Is 2.5 A4's extreme overkill for the debate. I discussed results,drinking, the lack of sport and unhealthy eating due to all the free time during the summer.

dalta5billion

DaleHyland wrote: »

dalta5billion wrote: »

Other than that, what a lovely Paper 1. Paper 2 will be rock hard I guess.

The grammar section appeared revised, with clearer instructions + identifying where tiosal ginodach was used.

Was the answer by any chance "ti?" I thought the Q meant, Ainsigh an ainmfocail" is that "name the name word sa tiosal ginodach"? I thought that question was very unclear.

I said Tí too. Woman of the house changes teach to tí.

dalta5billion

Paper 2 will be really hard... studying my poems and novel like a mad man here..*

*while posting on boards

ButtonBox

dalta5billion wrote: »

Paper 2 will be really hard... studying my poems and novel like a mad man here..*

*while posting on boards

Same. :P
Sure it'll be grand. XD

dalta5billion

ButtonBox wrote: »

What do ye all have studied?

An t-Ozon - worry, love, nature, environment
Subh Milis - love and possibly uaigneas
An Ghaoth. - nature and continuity (leanunachas)

dalta5billion

Went home for study. It's raining so everyone will be in school so there'd be no peace and quiet.

ButtonBox

Ah cool, you've got every theme possible there so. ;D
I have An Ghaoth
Le Linn ár nÓige
An t-Adh
Eachtraí Samhradh
and we've a good few others but I'm focusing on them because I lost the notes to the others.

DaleHyland

dalta5billion wrote: »

Went home for study. It's raining so everyone will be in school so there'd be no peace and quiet.

We were told to take a walk , we all have to go home or not be in school in between exams, I'm surprised your school will supervise.

nickys

I am very worried for my daughter the only poem tye have done is An T-Ozan her teachers have told them it covers everything??????

Surely this cant be right is it??? worried mother here:)

2creator

Anyone else do the debate? I did it and I defined the motion as people saying that summer was too long and therefore boring.

I then talked about the benefits of summer and all the exciting and interesting things to do. Will this mean that I did it wrong and will lose marks?

gaeilgebeo

nickys wrote: »

I am very worried for my daughter the only poem tye have done is An T-Ozan her teachers have told them it covers everything??????

Surely this cant be right is it??? worried mother here:)

She will be fine with An t-Ozón.

DaleHyland

nickys wrote: »

I am very worried for my daughter the only poem tye have done is An T-Ozan her teachers have told them it covers everything??????

Surely this cant be right is it??? worried mother here:)

As I'm sitting the exam later on too, I can say I learned two poems, Faoiseamh a Ghobhadsa and An T-Ozon, it might not cover everything, but there is a very good chance a topic that will apply to Ozon will come up.

nickys

gaeilgebeo wrote: »

She will be fine with An t-Ozón.

Really thats great thanks... I was a bit worried as I remember when I did it you needed about 6 poems learned:)

DaleHyland

2creator wrote: »

Anyone else do the debate? I did it and I defined the motion as people saying that summer was too long and therefore boring.

I then talked about the benefits of summer and all the exciting and interesting things to do. Will this mean that I did it wrong and will lose marks?

Did you state you disagree with it? A debate is one-sided, did you say you were for the motion or against. If you said for, you may be wrong, against, you'll be fine.

Pen Rua

Listening was much easier than I had anticipated but still quite tough.

Compression was quite easy. What is with the Beiber obsession that the Irish exam has?! Mocks, then this?

I feel I did quite poor in the grammar section. What was the answer for B, 6?

The essay was okay. A page an a half. I avoided going to a hospital!

Overall, it was an okay paper. My poor spelling and grammar let me down, but I knew that would happen anyway.

Now for Paper Two... Gulp.

iWin1010

LISTENING = IMPOSSIBLE

I'm gonna have to make up the marks on Paper 2.
Please wish me luck! :(:(

liadhan1

what was the other debate option

The One Who Knocks

Here's the links for Irish Paper 1 & 2, but they aren't up yet (obviously)

Paper 1
http://www.examinations.ie/archive/exampapers/2012/JC001ALP100IV.pdf

Paper 2
http://www.examinations.ie/archive/exampapers/2012/JC001ALP200IV.pdf


Sometimes they go up before they're properly indexed, so if you don't see them up later, try these links again,

2creator

DaleHyland wrote: »

2creator wrote: »

Anyone else do the debate? I did it and I defined the motion as people saying that summer was too long and therefore boring.

I then talked about the benefits of summer and all the exciting and interesting things to do. Will this mean that I did it wrong and will lose marks?

Did you state you disagree with it? A debate is one-sided, did you say you were for the motion or against. If you said for, you may be wrong, against, you'll be fine.

I said I was against the motion

ButtonBox

I will give up then and there if we're asked about the techniques used in a studied poem... :L

dalta5billion

I'm worried that on Paper 2 that they'll get up to some tricks, like where you have to do "a poem with a theme like the one on this paper", which I think happened with the fiction on 2010.

2creator

dalta5billion wrote: »

I'm worried that on Paper 2 that they'll get up to some tricks, like where you have to do "a poem with a theme like the one on this paper", which I think happened with the fiction on 2010.

It sort of did but there was still the option to pick a theme.

dalta5billion

2creator wrote: »

dalta5billion wrote: »

I'm worried that on Paper 2 that they'll get up to some tricks, like where you have to do "a poem with a theme like the one on this paper", which I think happened with the fiction on 2010.

It sort of did but there was still the option to pick a theme.

But anyone who did Dunmharu ar an Dart had to do the "theme similar to the extract" as the only theme suitable on the list was Taistil which isn't really a main theme of D ar D.

2creator

Well then if none of your themes come up you're going to have to compare and contrast.

puffffs

uhm listening went BEEEEEEEP
lol sooo bad
I think verbs were okay grammer bad
eachtra went oki dokey
and uhm yeah I had that written in about 25 minutes so I had lots of time for the comprehensions!! (I did the eachtra first)

ButtonBox

I think there's nearly always an option where you get to pick what theme you write on. I think.

Anyways, I'm off! Good luck everyone, stay calm, you'll be grand.

DaleHyland

dalta5billion wrote: »

2creator wrote: »

dalta5billion wrote: »

I'm worried that on Paper 2 that they'll get up to some tricks, like where you have to do "a poem with a theme like the one on this paper", which I think happened with the fiction on 2010.

Let's just hope bieber fever or the listening are the only antics they get up to.

LaMwa996

What the f:eek:ck am i doing on boards i need to learn my poetry!?!?!?!

if832uspx4eogt

Listening - Impossible! :mad: Even the first two questions about the people were hard. The Piosa Nuacta/Fógra about the boy winning first prize was fair hard.

Comprehensions - I just had to laugh when Justin Bieber came up again. I'd say the SEC were fair mad when they saw that the Mocks company had done a Justin Bieber one also I also knew his story, so it was pretty easy.

The Radio Ri-Ro one harder, but not impossible. I've definitely done harder comprehensions, I think we got two easy ones this year.

Grammar went awful. I just put "fidh" in front of every verb Part B was easier although I didn't get the last one.

Eachtra was grand so happy a timpiste at the disco came up :rolleyes: in my one, my friend smuggled in Alcahol, got drunk and fainted outside the disco. In the end the school found out and we had to clean the tables for the whole summer

I'd say I got 75% in it, it went grand. Paper 2 :eek: The Unseen Poetry is always my worst section. I only have one poem and one story learned, so if An T-Adh or An Luichin Sa Scoil comes up I'm gonna FAIL

nickys

Oh no my daughter found it really very hard...especially the unseen....
She said she didnt even understand what the ursceail was but just wrote what she had learned

liadhan1

what themes came up for the prós and filíocht, what poems came up in the unseen, what were the letter topics

2creator

What a lovely paper. For once I understood the unseen fiction and was able to answer questions on the unseen poetry. The themes fit my poem and story perfectly. And the letter was grand.

Pen Rua

Paper Two was hard enough. The pros was difficult to get around. I guessed half of it. The Studied was okay, though. I studied Dunmharu so mentioned Billy Brean, Niall wanting to be vice-principal and how he hated life in the school.

Poetry was really tough. I found B extremely hard. Studied was grand. Imirce did grand. (Michael will be lonely is London, his parents will be lonely without anymore, his sister is lonely in Manchester).

The letter! I was deeeeeeeeelighted! Music! I think I got near full marks. I lost some on grammar etc. I was so happy when I read "albam".

Quite a good paper; personally, I found it a bit hard but that was me.