Pub locals

chrismon

Me and 7 of my friends were out yesterday for a few drinks in the pub.
We were on our 3rd pint and planning to stay for another 3 or that before hitting town.
Anyway the pub was packed, and this old fella come in (about 85) and tells 2 of my friends to move as we were in his seat.
They moved and 2 of them had to stand up.
I was going to ask the barman what they story was but one of the fellas that moved told me that its known as his seat and people always have to move for him.
We left straight after that pint and they lost out on €100 by us leaving.
Hate that bullsh!t.
Any of ye experience this crap from old people who think you owe them something?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

are you seriously trying to argue that it's ok to sit in another mans seat?

dub_skav

So you're upset that somebody stood up to let an 85 year old sit down, do you knock children and pregnant women over in the park for kicks?

sunflower27

They'd have made the €100 on someone else. Everyone was in the pubs yesterday.

As for the old guy, well, it's probably the big thing in his life, having his designated seat in his local... let him off.

Why did he need two seats though?

Edit - in case he pulled!!! I get it now

Hande hoche!

Was one of your friends sitting on another one's lap?

the groutch

unless there was no other seats, he should have just sit elsewhere.
so what if that's "where he always sits", a whole group of customers who are spending alot more than he is shouldnt have to magically jump out of the way.
name and shame the pub please.

kollegeknight

They probably were down 100e that day. but how much would they loose if the old boy didn't get his seat and went off and found a new local.

I have walked into pubs before and there was even a sign on the wall for the guys seat.
Locals make the Irish pub.

Chuck Stone

People have no respect for seniors these days.

This is the reason elder abuse is on the rise.

You oughta be ashamed of yourself OP.

Milk & Honey

looking after regulars is the name of the game in pubs. If the oul fella didn't get his seat he would never come back.

Rabies

chrismon wrote: »

Me and 7 of my friends were out yesterday for a few drinks in the pub.
We were on our 3rd pint and planning to stay for another 3 or that before hitting town.
Anyway the pub was packed, and this old fella come in (about 85) and tells 2 of my friends to move as we were in his seat.
They moved and 2 of them had to stand up.
I was going to ask the barman what they story was but one of the fellas that moved told me that its known as his seat and people always have to move for him.
We left straight after that pint and they lost out on €100 by us leaving.
Hate that bullsh!t.
Any of ye experience this crap from old people who think you owe them something?

I run a bar.
All the regulars have their usual spots. If someone else is in it when they get in, tough sh!t. Move to the next seat. Everyone still gets treated the same.
Give special privileges like allowing someone to have his own seat is looking for trouble.
Now to give an old man a seat out of kindness is a different story, if he demands it, then he can go jump.

Ghandee

Meh, 85 year old thinking he has his own seat?

We've a 35 year old in our local goes mad when you try and sit in his chair too.
He also complains that we're always pushing him around and talking behind his back!

in fairness to him though, he has no legs and is in a wheel chair

Adyx

the groutch wrote: »

unless there was no other seats, he should have just sit elsewhere.
so what if that's "where he always sits", a whole group of customers who are spending alot more than he is shouldnt have to magically jump out of the way.
name and shame the pub please.

For what? The barman didn't tell them to move.

Rabies

Milk & Honey wrote: »

looking after regulars is the name of the game in pubs. If the oul fella didn't get his seat he would never come back.

Yes he would.
Creatures of habit. Old people don't like too much change.

the groutch

Adyx wrote: »

For what? The barman didn't tell them to move.

but he obviously seems to think it's okay, and if your friends said no I'm sure he's get involved.

jester77

Your €100 is probably small change compared to what he has left there over the years.

I was like him when I lived in a different town, had my local and the barman had a seat reserved for me. Even had my name engraved at the bar, so when I came in if someone was there they had to move.

A good business man will always look out for his best customers!

abouttobebanned

The elderly man probably drinks in there every day. You're obviously a blow in. Have a bit of respect.

Rabies

jester77 wrote: »

Your €100 is probably small change compared to what he has left there over the years.

I was like him when I lived in a different town, had my local and the barman had a seat reserved for me. Even had my name engraved at the bar, so when I came in if someone was there they had to move.

A good business man will always look out for his best customers!

You can still treat regulars well without making people move from seats.
That will make you lose future business. Not great practice.

If the seat is taken, shout the regular a drink. He/She will be fine.

2rkehij30qtza5

You could be talking about my local pub here. There's an 85 year old man who comes in and if someone is in 'his' seat they get up. You are obviously young enough if you were out on the tear with the lads (as in, you are not 85!) so I think that yes, your friends should have given this man his seat. So what if they had to stand? It's unlikely you got seats in whatever pub you moved on to anyway. I would have no gripe whatsoever with an old man getting his usual seat. He has probably spent thousands in that pub over the years do in sure the bar wouldn't have been too upset over loosing your €100 in comparison to the trade this usual/regular customer has given them! You should lighten up as in decades to come you could very well be this same old man in need of your usual seat by the bar!

mikemac1

Your €100 doesn't mean a lot to management

That man keeps the pub going on quiet nights when you are nowhere to be seen

Jester252

Are you really pissed that you friends let an old man sit down in a packed pub. Fair play to them. Everywhere has the old character. In my local area there was a gang of old men that had they own area in the local, church anywhere they was a meetup. My granddad was part of the gang. If he saw a gap between two young ones in the line up for communion they would get a dig with his stick and he was had the gap filled.

biko

Fair play to your friend. I'm glad we still have upstanding young men like him in society today.

chrismon

My problem with the situation is that he told us to move. He didn't ask could he move he literally tapped my friend on the shoulder and said "move, I sit there ".
I have no problem giving up a seat for someone who needs it. But not demanding the seat.

abouttobebanned

chrismon wrote: »

My problem with the situation is that he told us to move. He didn't ask could he move he literally tapped my friend on the shoulder and said "move, I sit there ".
I have no problem giving up a seat for someone who needs it. But not demanding the seat.

Old men in pubs are notoriously grumpy.

Ledger

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Old men are notoriously grumpy.

FYP :pac:

Jason Todd

It'd be different if he was a young fella, but imo there's no big deal in giving an aul fella a seat in a packed pub, whether he considers it 'his' seat or not. Ya never know, if ye had engaged him in conversation ye might have learned a thing or two!

Jason Todd

Jason Todd wrote: »

It'd be different if he was a young fella, but imo there's no big deal in giving an aul fella a seat in a packed pub, whether he considers it 'his' seat or not. Ya never know, if ye had engaged him in conversation ye might have learned a thing or two!

How to be an alcoholic?

Nothingbetter2d

you didnt wanna give up a seat to an 85 year old man?... wait til u hit his age...you'll be hoping people do that for you

frozenfrozen

To be honest I wouldn't expect more than a quick few words from an 85 year old in a packed pub. Fair play that he was able to project his voice loud enough, I certainly won't be able if I ever get to that age, I find it hard most of the time now.

Fizzlesque

chrismon wrote: »

My problem with the situation is that he told us to move. He didn't ask could he move he literally tapped my friend on the shoulder and said "move, I sit there ".
I have no problem giving up a seat for someone who needs it. But not demanding the seat.

Years ago there was an early house pub my mates and I used go to sometimes and there was a really grumpy old man who had drank there for years, no matter what new metamorphosis the pub underwent, he continued to drink there. At this stage the pub's metamorphosis involved being full of people still partying from the night before and very loud dance music, but still he drank in that pub. It used take him an age to shuffle from his seat to the bathroom, which meant making his way through people dancing, and if you tried to help him (which people often did) he'd get really pissed off.

One day, as I was leaving, he grabbed my sleeve to get my attention and then instructed me to get him a taxi, while he sat in his seat and waited for me to come get him once I'd managed to flag down a passing taxi for him. Once his taxi arrived, he allowed me to escort him to the car and help him in to the passenger seat. When he was in, he shut the door and instructed the driver to drive on. Not a word of thanks or acknowledgement to me.

He was the crankiest old man I've ever had the misfortune to meet in a pub, but I couldn't help but admire his stubborn tenacity to continue to drink in the pub he'd always drank in even though all his old drinking buddies (if he'd ever had any) were no longer around, and the pub was a million miles removed from the kind of pub it would have been when he first decided he liked it enough to make it his local.

Logical Fallacy

chrismon wrote: »

Me and 7 of my friends were out yesterday for a few drinks in the pub.
We were on our 3rd pint and planning to stay for another 3 or that before hitting town.
Anyway the pub was packed, and this old fella come in (about 85) and tells 2 of my friends to move as we were in his seat.
They moved and 2 of them had to stand up.
I was going to ask the barman what they story was but one of the fellas that moved told me that its known as his seat and people always have to move for him.
We left straight after that pint and they lost out on €100 by us leaving.
Hate that bullsh!t.
Any of ye experience this crap from old people who think you owe them something?

Hmmmm....I reckon to earn that seat the auld chap had spent a bit more than that over the years...who do you really think is a valued customer?

scamalert

chrismon wrote: »

Me and 7 of my friends were out yesterday for a few drinks in the pub.
We were on our 3rd pint and planning to stay for another 3 or that before hitting town.
Anyway the pub was packed, and this old fella come in (about 85) and tells 2 of my friends to move as we were in his seat.
They moved and 2 of them had to stand up.
I was going to ask the barman what they story was but one of the fellas that moved told me that its known as his seat and people always have to move for him.
We left straight after that pint and they lost out on €100 by us leaving.
Hate that bullsh!t.
Any of ye experience this crap from old people who think you owe them something?

not to insult but you sound like just u just turned 18 and your pubes just started growing as for mans seat if he sat there for last couple years so fair play to him its his seat.I had situations where you would leave for a minute and find a couple sitting in your spot,and tell them to move on somewhere else no trouble there,or if theres a group of girls just leave them at it,and not go crying on AH about 85 old man and your sucky 100e.

Logical Fallacy

scamalert wrote: »

not to insult but you sound like just u just turned 18 and your pubes just started growing

Did you not have pubes until you were 18?

That's ****ed up dude.

Fizzlesque

Fizzlesque wrote: »

Years ago there was an early house pub my mates and I used go to sometimes and there was a really grumpy old man who had drank there for years, no matter what new metamorphosis the pub underwent, he continued to drink there. At this stage the pub's metamorphosis involved being full of people still partying from the night before and very loud dance music, but still he drank in that pub. It used take him an age to shuffle from his seat to the bathroom, which meant making his way through people dancing, and if you tried to help him (which people often did) he'd get really pissed off.

One day, as I was leaving, he grabbed my sleeve to get my attention and then instructed me to get him a taxi, while he sat in his seat and waited for me to come get him once I'd managed to flag down a passing taxi for him. Once his taxi arrived, he allowed me to escort him to the car and help him in to the passenger seat. When he was in, he shut the door and instructed the driver to drive on. Not a word of thanks or acknowledgement to me.

He was the crankiest old man I've ever had the misfortune to meet in a pub, but I couldn't help but admire his stubborn tenacity to continue to drink in the pub he'd always drank in even though all his old drinking buddies (if he'd ever had any) were no longer around, and the pub was a million miles removed from the kind of pub it would have been when he first decided he liked it enough to make it his local.

It's a sad life these guys have. Their 'seat' is probably all their lives have amounted to.

Pedro K

What if he was 40 instead of 85, and had been drinking in the same pub for the last 20 years? Would people be so quick to acquiesce to his demand for his seat then?

I know I wouldn't.

scamalert

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Did you not have pubes until you were 18?

That's ****ed up dude.

probably balls to :pac: takes courage to moan about 85old .

Crann na Beatha

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nlgbbbblth

Pedro K wrote: »

What if he was 40 instead of 85, and had been drinking in the same pub for the last 20 years? Would people be so quick to acquiesce to his demand for his seat then?

I know I wouldn't.

Neither would I.

Sometimes these "characters" aren't as sound as people think they are.

Pandora2

Nothing to the bad vibes that come at you if you have the misfortune to sit insome oul ones 'lucky' seat at the bingo! :eek:

Mickey Dazzler

If i were you I would have knocked the old boy clean out with one punch and then began kicking repeatedly him in the head as the lay on the floor writhing and pissing blood.

GaryIrv93

To be fair the old fella made a bit of a big deal over something as small as a seat. You can't just demand your traditional seat and have an attitude against a few people who are only minding their own business trying to enjoy a night out, even if they are sitting in ''your'' seat. I would've said tough luck to him and stayed exactly where I was. It hardly would have killed him to just sit in any other available seat for the time being and wait for your group to leave. Would sitting in the same seat on the same bus every day for years on end on my journey into town make that certain seat ''mine''?

I'd gladly give up my seat any day for an elderly/pregnant/disabled person who needs somewhere to sit, however if someone came up to me with an attitude and demanded that I move because that area was ''theirs'' then I'd make a stand.

padd b1975

Pandora2 wrote: »

Nothing to the bad vibes that come at you if you have the misfortune to sit insome oul ones 'lucky' seat at the bingo! :eek:

They would strangle you with their headscarves.

Itwasntme.

I agree that we should respect our elders and whatnot but there's no excuse for rudeness at any age. I would have moved for sure but not before sending him very strong you-are-rude vibes.

Sunnyisland

The man was 85, Most likely objects to these foreign people coming into his pub and taking his seat,The neck of them.

Personally I would have humoured the man and gave him his seat no probs.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

****in coosan tavern

padd b1975

Itwasntme. wrote: »

I agree that we should respect our elders and whatnot but there's no excuse for rudeness at any age. I would have moved for sure but not before sending him very strong you-are-rude vibes.

Good old passive aggression.

Logical Fallacy

padd b1975 wrote: »

Good old passive aggression.

For when you are too much of a pussy to actually do something about it.

Lionel Messy

You should have glassed him.

hondasam

This is what local pubs are like, it's not a problem for most people except the odd blow in of course who will make an issue out of it.

Rango555

Find out what time he usually arrives to the bar and arrive 5 minutes before him armed with thumb tacks.... see if he still wants the seat then

Big Nasty

I worked in pubs for years and yeah, locals tend to have their regular seats but I never saw someone insist another customer move. Out of interest what pub was it?

Vicar in a tutu

To be honest its only a seat, and as you said he was about 85 and you were going to a nightclub later, That seat is probably his little pride and joy let him have his little victory, it probably made his day:pac: