First Gaming PC

i am an onion

1. What is your budget? €850 ( could potentially go a little higher, if need be )

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Primarily Gaming ( Skyrim, Battlefield 3, GTA 4 & 5, Diablo 3, Arma, Total War and countless older games ) But also Internet and watching movies.

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Yes

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? Yes

5a. If yes, what size do you need. Preferably 22 - 24' but will settle for smaller if need be.

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Pretty much everything ( including a wireless card )

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Possibly, if I didn't have to do it myself

8. How can you pay? Paypal

9. When are you purchasing? Within the next couple of weeks.

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? Kerry

Been wanting a Gaming PC since forever so I decided to finally get one.
Could you guys tell me how my internet would perform, considering it's going to be connected using a wireless card?
My Upload speed is .27 Mb/s and my Download speed is 2.45 Mb/s on average and my Ping is usually around 90ms.

Thank you in advance.

Sholden

i am an onion wrote: »

Been wanting a Gaming PC since forever so I decided to finally get one.
Could you guys tell me how my internet would perform, considering it's going to be connected using a wireless card?
My Upload speed is .27 Mb/s and my Download speed is 2.45 Mb/s on average and my Ping is usually around 90ms.

Thank you in advance.

Well if you play in servers less than 100 ping you will be fine. I prefer to stay around 60 but if you can't 90 isn't too bad.

Item|Price
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W|€54.24
Seagate Barracuda Spinpoint HD103SJ 1TB SATA II|€77.69
LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA|€16.68
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€35.93
Sapphire HD 7850 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express|€230.50
BitFenix Merc Alpha|€31.75
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155|€190.81
ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX|€128.51
Thermalright True Spirit 120|€23.79
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€808.89

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Item|Price
LiteOn iHAS124-19 schwarz SATA|€18.89
BitFenix Merc Alpha|€31.75
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€35.93
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's|€62.72
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.88
Intel Core i3-2120 Box, LGA1155|€106.46
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€92.81
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€85.34
BenQ G2255|€100.98
Logitech Speaker System Z323|€33.35
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€16.01
Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 royalQueen, 1GB GDDR5|€192.70
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€838.81

All you need is a keyboard and mouse, and if between now and ordering the build you get a bit more money, get the i5 3570k or the i5 2500k instead of the i3 2120.

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Eboggles wrote: »

Item|Price
LiteOn iHAS124-19 schwarz SATA|€18.89
BitFenix Merc Alpha|€31.75
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€35.93
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's|€62.72
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€42.88
Intel Core i3-2120 Box, LGA1155|€106.46
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€92.81
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€85.34
BenQ G2255|€100.98
Logitech Speaker System Z323|€33.35
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€16.01
Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 royalQueen, 1GB GDDR5|€192.70
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€838.81

All you need is a keyboard and mouse, and if between now and ordering the build you get a bit more money, get the i5 3570k or the i5 2500k instead of the i3 2120.

Thanks, and how much extra would one of those cost?

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Sholden wrote: »

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Skylinehead

i am an onion wrote: »

Thanks, and how much extra would one of those cost?

3570k is 212, 2500k is about 190.

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Skylinehead wrote: »

3570k is 212, 2500k is about 190.

Is the 3570k worth the extra 100? Am I really getting a far better performance with that one?

Skylinehead

If you have the money, definitely.

i am an onion

Skylinehead wrote: »

If you have the money, definitely.

Ok, I might get that so, thanks!

i am an onion

I was wondering if I could get a cheaper monitor.

Thanks.

Skylinehead

Not really, unless you want 18.5" and 1366x768 instead of 22" 1920x1080, all for the sake of 20 quid. If you really want to save the 20 quid, do it elsewhere. Maybe even drop the 3570k down to a 2500k.

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Skylinehead wrote: »

Not really, unless you want 18.5" and 1366x768 instead of 22" 1920x1080, all for the sake of 20 quid. If you really want to save the 20 quid, do it elsewhere. Maybe even drop the 3570k down to a 2500k.

Nah, I guess it's not worth it.


Anyway, Thanks for all your help guys, I appreciate it.:)

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Hey guys what do you think of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 that power supply instead of the current one?

Sholden

i am an onion wrote: »

Hey guys what do you think of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 that power supply instead of the current one?

Newegg don't ship to Ireland. If you are going to spend more on a PSU get a modular one but try and get one that's 80+ too. Like this one it's expensive but it's 80 plus gold and modular but the one mentioned before is fine.

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Sholden wrote: »

Newegg don't ship to Ireland. If you are going to spend more on a PSU get a modular one but try and get one that's 80+ too. Like this one it's expensive but it's 80 plus gold and modular but the one mentioned before is fine.

Thanks I'll check that out.

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http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-650w-professional-series-gold-ax650-high-performance-psu-7JGP.html?q=X650%20Gold&src=16

http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?q=tx%20650w&src=16



What do you think of these? I heard dabs is a UK site so they should ship to Ireland.

glynf

i am an onion wrote: »

http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-650w-professional-series-gold-ax650-high-performance-psu-7JGP.html?q=X650%20Gold&src=16

http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?q=tx%20650w&src=16


What do you think of these? I heard dabs is a UK site so they should ship to Ireland.

They do ship here, but go to dabs.ie instead:

http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?src=15


Komplett have same for a few quid dearer, but free shipping-not sure if dabs do free shipping?

http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/power_supplies/20076120/corsair_enthusiast_tx650_v2_650_watt/details.aspx

The AX series are excellent, the TX are as good with less bells & whistles but a hella lot less dough.

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glynf wrote: »

They do ship here, but go to dabs.ie instead:

http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?src=15


Komplett have same for a few quid dearer, but free shipping-not sure if dabs do free shipping?

http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/power_supplies/20076120/corsair_enthusiast_tx650_v2_650_watt/details.aspx

The AX series are excellent, the TX are as good with less bells & whistles but a hella lot less dough.

So would you recommend I get the AX instead of the TX?

glynf

TBH I think the one Eboggles spec'ed is perfect for your build, but if it was between the AX & TX I would go for the TX for your requirements.

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glynf wrote: »

TBH I think the one Eboggles spec'ed is perfect for your build, but if it was between the AX & TX I would go for the TX for your requirements.

Okay. Thank you!

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Hey, me again ( sorry to bring up an old topic )

I was wondering how much it would cost to get someone to put the parts together for me? ( I know the costs vary, but a general estimate ). I know I could do it myself, and I have looked at the tutorials on YouTube, it's just that I really, really don't trust myself to do it properly. Me + Technical stuff = Bad times all round .

Thanks in advance.

Montgomerie

If you are buying the machine spec'd from hardwareversand, then add this to your build and they will assemble most of it for you. Only 20euro too.

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Montgomerie wrote: »

If you are buying the machine spec'd from hardwareversand, then add this to your build and they will assemble most of it for you. Only 20euro too.

Well I am getting the Power Supply from dabs.ie, so would I still be able to get hardwareversand to assemble it?
( If they don't, could you recommend a power supply from hardwareversand similar to this http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?src=15 )

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Also, just to make sure, hardwareversand ships to Ireland, yeah?

Eboggles

i am an onion wrote: »

Also, just to make sure, hardwareversand ships to Ireland, yeah?

Yeah

Incompetent

i am an onion wrote: »

Well I am getting the Power Supply from dabs.ie, so would I still be able to get hardwareversand to assemble it?
( If they don't, could you recommend a power supply from hardwareversand similar to this http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-memory-tx650-v2-650w-atx-enthusiast-series-7CHB.html?src=15 )

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/600+-+700+Watts/46158/Corsair+Enthusiast+Series+TX650+V2.article

There's a modular version as well I think, just search for tx650

Skylinehead

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/600+-+700+Watts/39875/XFX+PRO650W+Core+Edition+Full+Wired+Power+Supply.article

That's cheaper, and better (it's a rebranded Seasonic, who are pretty much the best in the game for PSUs)

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Thanks for the replies, and @Skyline head, I'll check that out. Thank you.

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Hey guys, what kind of mouse do you think I should get? Should I get a wired or wireless one, ball or laser etc?

Craig B

For gaming wired and laser/optical (I'm not sure which of the two is better) and then it all comes down to personal preferance.

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Craig B wrote: »

For gaming wired and laser/optical (I'm not sure which of the two is better) and then it all comes down to personal preferance.

Thanks a million I'll get right on ordering one.:)

Craig B

i am an onion wrote: »

Thanks a million I'll get right on ordering one.:)

Ok, this vid might help a bit tho. Glad to help

i am an onion

Craig B wrote: »

Ok, this vid might help a bit tho. Glad to help

Thank you!

i am an onion

Hey, I was in the process of ordering the PC when a thing called a " Order Defective-pixel test " came up. should I do it, it's an extra 20 euro though?
They also gave this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel

Skylinehead

What's the monitor? Unless it's an import like a Catleap, I wouldn't bother.

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Skylinehead wrote: »

What's the monitor? Unless it's an import like a Catleap, I wouldn't bother.

This is the monitor.http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?agid=603&aid=58698&basket.changed=1
So what do you think?

Skylinehead

Don't bother, if it has a dead pixel (very unlikely) you can get it replaced.

i am an onion

Skylinehead wrote: »

Don't bother, if it has a dead pixel (very unlikely) you can get it replaced.

Thanks for your help!

i am an onion

Hey, could I ask you one more question? How do you think my internet will perform? ( if you look at the bottom of my opening post you will see what my internet is like, on average ). It's just playing online on my PS3 is a pain (sometimes) due to the bad connection. Will this be the same for the PC, or will it be better on the computer seeing as it's, well, a computer:)? I was especially wondering about the wireless card. Will it be able to pick up a connection better than the PS3 seeing as it's new and not 6 years old ?

Thanks.

Xenoronin

Is there any chance of you getting it wired to the access point instead of wireless?

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Xenoronin wrote: »

Is there any chance of you getting it wired to the access point instead of wireless?

Very doubtful.

i am an onion

Do you know if there is anything I could do? The access point is connected to the family PC, which is downstairs. I can't take the access point upstairs where the new PC will be, but I was wondering if maybe I could get a longer cable and make it so the signal isn't as corrupted by the stairs.

TheAmateur

i am an onion wrote: »

Do you know if there is anything I could do? The access point is connected to the family PC, which is downstairs. I can't take the access point upstairs where the new PC will be, but I was wondering if maybe I could get a longer cable and make it so the signal isn't as corrupted by the stairs.

Can you run an ethernet cable down? Something like this maybe?

glynf

You could use a long net cable.

1.Get a bog standard switch like this;(A cheap 10/100 switch from PC world etc. will do fine-this is just an example)

2.Use a short Cat 5 patch cable to connect the switch to the access point/eircom/ntl box.

3. Run the long Cat 5 cable to your PC, ideally as neatly as possible if on the stairs, you can clip it to the side with cable clips-this will prevent family members involuntarily decending the stairs at speed.;)


Plug the power cable for the into a socket to power up, done.

Xenoronin

There is also this option but i'm not sure how good it actually is
http://www.dabs.ie/products/tp-link-av500-mini-powerline-adapter-starter-kit-849M.html?src=15

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TheAmateur wrote: »

Can you run an ethernet cable down? Something like this maybe?

Thanks. I might try that. however, I just thought of something.

At present the router/access point is connected to the family desktop via an Ethernet cable. I was wondering if I could perhaps move the router near to my PS3 ( in this case, however, PC ) and connect the Ethernet cable to my PC, and if so, would the family PC be able to pick up the wireless? ( I'm pretty certain it has a wireless card in it, but if not, I could easily use the one I'm buying ).

Unfortunately, I do not have a phone socket in my room ( where I wish to put the PC ). The phone socket is downstairs ( specifically under the stairs ). I was wondering if I used a long telephone lead to connect the router to the phone socket, would this affect the signal ( It's just that I'm aware that a long Ethernet cable affects the signal but I'm unsure about telephone leads ).

Thanks for your time.

i am an onion

TheAmateur wrote: »

Can you run an ethernet cable down? Something like this maybe?

glynf wrote: »

You could use a long net cable.

1.Get a bog standard switch like this;(A cheap 10/100 switch from PC world etc. will do fine-this is just an example)

2.Use a short Cat 5 patch cable to connect the switch to the access point/eircom/ntl box.

3. Run the long Cat 5 cable to your PC, ideally as neatly as possible if on the stairs, you can clip it to the side with cable clips-this will prevent family members involuntarily decending the stairs at speed.;)


Plug the power cable for the into a socket to power up, done.

Xenoronin wrote: »

There is also this option but i'm not sure how good it actually is
http://www.dabs.ie/products/tp-link-av500-mini-powerline-adapter-starter-kit-849M.html?src=15

Thanks guys! I didn't see your posts at first, sorry.:(

Those are good suggestions, thanks, but what do you think of my post above ^^ ?

Incompetent

What about powerline/homeplug? I'm considering this myself, is it worthwhile?

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Incompetent wrote: »

What about powerline/homeplug? I'm considering this myself, is it worthwhile?

Sorry, I don't know, what are they?

Incompetent

i am an onion wrote: »

Sorry, I don't know, what are they?

You plug an ethernet cable into a [home]plug socket at your router, then another into a socket beside your device, and the connection travels over your house's wiring.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA211KIT-200Mbps-Powerline-Ethernet/dp/B004INVKP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339791249&sr=8-1

I've read conflicting reports on whether they're worth it.

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Incompetent wrote: »

You plug an ethernet cable into a [home]plug socket at your router, then another into a socket beside your device, and the connection travels over your house's wiring.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA211KIT-200Mbps-Powerline-Ethernet/dp/B004INVKP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339791249&sr=8-1

I've read conflicting reports on whether they're worth it.

I'll check that out, thanks. I'll wait until someone answers my previous question at the top of this page as that would be my preferred method at this point.