Ephedrine no longer a controlled drug??

DM-BM

According to this article "Ephedrine was not a controlled drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act since late 2009/early 2010"

Anyone know anymore about this?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0517/1224316240166.html

Mickk

It's a medicine just like steroids and viagra ect. You need a prescription to buy it.

Doug Cartel

Mickk wrote: »

It's a medicine just like steroids and viagra ect. You need a prescription to buy it.

Not according to the article posted above.

Brian?

Seriously kids, don't take ephedrine.


Unless your sinuses are backed up like a mofo.

deadlybuzzman

briankeating wrote: »

Seriously kids, don't take ephedrine.


Unless your sinuses are backed up like a mofo.

Your heart probably wouldnt enjoy it either

ceegee

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Mickk wrote: »

It's a medicine just like steroids and viagra ect. You need a prescription to buy it.

Not according to the article posted above.

Only some prescription drugs are classed as "controlled drugs", namely drugs with a possibility of misuse/abuse (morphine, methadone etc). A drug not being classed as a controlled drug does NOT mean it doesnt need a prescription.

Brian?

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Your heart probably wouldnt enjoy it either

That was kind of my point. It's terrible for you both mentally and physically.

Mellor

ceegee wrote: »

Only some prescription drugs are classed as "controlled drugs", namely drugs with a possibility of misuse/abuse (morphine, methadone etc). A drug not being classed as a controlled drug does NOT mean it doesnt need a prescription.

The way I understand it is, a controlled is basically one which there's some sort of restriction on under the misuse of drugs act. There's a range of restrictions depending on which schedule it is in. Controlled drugs are those where you'll get in trouble for possessing/selling/making etc.


As for Ephedrine
Under this order (2004), its listed as a controlled drug. And these regulations list it as illegal to make, supply, import, export etc, however this orders means it is not illegal to have it in your possession.

I can't see any mention of it after that. 2006, 2009 and 2010 are mostly relating to mushrooms, and head shop stuff.

CL7

briankeating wrote: »

That was kind of my point. It's terrible for you both mentally and physically.

Really? I didn't know that. I'll google it but do you have any links/studies in mind?

fearcruach

CL7 wrote: »

Really? I didn't know that. I'll google it but do you have any links/studies in mind?

A quick search threw up this:

http://www.canadianmedicaljournal.ca/content/166/5/633.full

It's prescription only for a good reason.

rubadub

ceegee wrote: »

A drug not being classed as a controlled drug does NOT mean it doesnt need a prescription.

True, if it is prescription I wonder why it says this

Should the conviction be quashed, the DPP intended to restart its prosecution of Browne in respect of the alleged possession of cocaine.

Would be not also be done for selling prescription drugs. I don't think viagra is controlled but I think I read of people been done for selling it.

Mickk

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Not according to the article posted above.

Where does it say that? It says it's not a controlled drug which is true, it's a controlled medicine which is a different thing, here is the si if your interested, ephedrine is a class b controlled medicine http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/si/0540.html

Mickk

rubadub wrote: »

True, if it is prescription I wonder why it says this

Would be not also be done for selling prescription drugs. I don't think viagra is controlled but I think I read of people been done for selling it.

What would have happened here is that he was a dishonest drug dealer, he had coke and what he was passing off as ecstasy came back from the state testing lab as ephedrine. They didn't notice that the chemical they presumed was ectasy wasn't covered by the misuse of drugs act, especially since he pleaded guilty so the case wasn't really challenged or looked at in depth. They could do him for having a medicine for sale but I'd say the charge for 50k worth of coke he had will do.

fearcruach

rubadub wrote: »

True, if it is prescription I wonder why it says this

Would be not also be done for selling prescription drugs. I don't think viagra is controlled but I think I read of people been done for selling it.

Controlled only refers to certain drugs (generally ones with abuse potential) like cocaine, morphine, certain benzodiazepines etc. It means there are additional restrictions on the supply within a pharmacy (logs must be kept of stocks, amount dispensed, script must be written in a certain way.)

Even if it isn't controlled but is a prescription only medicine then supply can only be by a pharmacist on the foot of a valid prescription. So a guy selling viagra on the street is illegal.

DHennessy

briankeating wrote: »

That was kind of my point. It's terrible for you both mentally and physically.

yes, i used to use ephedrine and not long after i started taking it i started having heart palpatations, so i stopped.

CL7

fearcruach wrote: »

A quick search threw up this:

http://www.canadianmedicaljournal.ca/content/166/5/633.full

It's prescription only for a good reason.

The report says nothing about sample size, dosage, time on etc. I'm not doubting it has negative effects but "prescription only for a good reason" isn't what I asked for in my post tbf.

gymsoldier

DHennessy wrote: »

yes, i used to use ephedrine and not long after i started taking it i started having heart palpatations, so i stopped.

ECA?