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English Paper II

  • 28-05-2012 7:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭


    Kinda freaking out over Hamlet for the Leaving- don't have half as much done as i'd imagine and now am realising i've left it very late. Do you think by doing the following i'd get a question to suit on the 7th of June? :

    Characters

      [*]Hamlet
      [*]Gertrude
      [*]Polonius
      [*]Horatio

      [*]Struggle between Claudius and Hamlet


      General Questions
        [*]Appearance V. Reality
        [*]Importance of Soliloquys

        [*]Dramatic Scene
        [*]Loyalty and Betrayal
        [*]Imagery and Symbolism


        I have sample answers for the questions I have stroked above ^ ^ (stroked, lol :pac:)

        Anyway- do you think i'll be ok? Really need the A in English and i'm actually sick thinking about the Hamlet Question!

        On the topic of the Comparative Study. Do you think if I learnt off one basic Theme/Issue answer i'd be ok if it came up on the day? I'm fairly comfortable with GV+V and LG. However we've never studied key moments and i'm not really sure how to write about them. So if that came up as the 2 part question (which i'm more comfortable with), I don't think i'd be able to answer!

        I know Theme/Issue came up last year, but they have in the past put on the same mode on twice in 2 years.

        For example-

        Theme/Issue- 2008, 2009
        Literary Genre- 2004, 2005

        General Vision has never come up twice in a row coming up in 2010, 2007, 2005, 2003.

        Any opinions/hints people?

        On the topic of poetry- i'm doing:
        • Sylvia Plath
        • Adrienne Rich
        • Philip Larkin
        • Thomas Kinsella
        • Seamus Heaney

        Is there any specific poems from any of those poets you should always mention in an answer? This question is specifically for Plath as we've only done 5 poems by her and we haven't done any of her difficult ones (Elm, Finisterre, the one about Rainy weather) :P

        Thanks guys!


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      • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭skanger


        Women in Hamlet, like there overall impact on Hamlet and the overall plot, I will eat my hat if Horatio comes up.

        Please Jesus don't be imagery and symbolism either :eek:, or one scene or any other theme but deception


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


        skanger wrote: »
        Women in Hamlet, like there overall impact on Hamlet and the overall plot, I will eat my hat if Horatio comes up.

        Please Jesus don't be imagery and symbolism either :eek:, or one scene or any other theme but deception

        same! C'mooooooon Deception and Women ;)
        Also, I'm doing Lit Genre and Theme. If they both come up I'm doing LG! :)
        And I'm only doing Plath, Heaney and larkin.. ;)


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭ChemHickey


        same! C'mooooooon Deception and Women ;)
        Also, I'm doing Lit Genre and Theme. If they both come up I'm doing LG! :)
        And I'm only doing Plath, Heaney and larkin.. ;)

        I'm hoping for a nice Hamlet question, don't mind on what though,... preferably something I hadn't prepared, so it'd be fresher.

        Hoping for any easy comparitive ( the 70marker)

        Plath or Rich would make my life <3

        An unseen poem I had seen before :L (That happened to my friend last year! :O )


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭JonnyMcNamee


        Am studying the same as you PF, but instead of a question on the character of Gertrude I'm doing the Chacterisation of Women. Hoping for Deception or maybe one on the Conflict between Claudius and Hamlet! They'd be fairly handy :p


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭deathbythelc


        Anyone have any Hamlet essay plans that they'd like to share?

        I've done nothing for Hamlet since last year. :')

        Can swap poetry or comparative plans... Just so this doesn't seem like I am THE laziest person in the world. :rolleyes:


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


        Just a tip on key moments - I was the same, confused over it, but all you need to do is describe whatever you're talking about as a key moment I think :P For example for mine we talked about religion and how it's oppressive in Kite Runner and Purple Hibiscus because x and y happen, but for a key moments essay you'd just say "we see this in the key moment where x happens" :)


      • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭skanger


        Anyone have any Hamlet essay plans that they'd like to share?

        I've done nothing for Hamlet since last year. :')

        Can swap poetry or comparative plans... Just so this doesn't seem like I am THE laziest person in the world. :rolleyes:
        I like to plan the essay by dividing it into 7 or 8 paragraphs, for each paragraph I learn off 2-3 relevant quotes. On the day it saves time since I have a clear picture of what I need to write. There's no point in learning off big 10 page sample answers, unless your very good a leaning off it just wastes time

        For example, in the mocks I did an essay on women. The paragraphs were..


        1)Gertrude's crimes. Quotes 'as kill a king','most seeming virtuous queen' 'little month'

        2)Treatment of Hamlet. 'Unmanly grief' 'the funeral bak'd-meats. Did coldly furnish forth the marriage tables' 'cast thy nighted colour off'

        3)Gertrude's redeeming qualities 'hamlet in madness hath Polonius slain' 'Thou turn'st mine eyes into my very soul...'

        4)Is Ophelia loved by hamlet? 'I love thee not' vs 'Forty thousand brothers Could not, with all their quantity of love, Make up my sum'


        5) Ophelia is used and abused. 'green girl' 'get thee to a nunnery'

        6)Hate for women in general. 'incestuous sheets' 'frailty thy name is woman'

        7)Impact of women on the plot. Ophelia's obedience 'i shall the effect of this good lesson keep' leads to her death which leads to Laertes' revenge 'to cut his throat i' the church'
        'God
        has given you one face, and you make yourselves
        another' and 'carnal bloody and unnatural acts' Hamlet's mother has tainted womanhood for Hamlet and this drives him to act.

        Using this template I got close to full marks in the mocks, that being said i hope someone can point to where improvements can be made.

        I wrote the quotes from memory so check before you use them, and I'm using a new keyboard which is stupidly small so I fully expect there's a few typos in what i wrote.

        Posted this for someone else, it's not perfect but it's a good outline you can easily add ideas to.

        Do you have a Heaney plan by any chance? I hate him but he's likely


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭deathbythelc


        skanger wrote: »
        Posted this for someone else, it's not perfect but it's a good outline you can easily add ideas to.

        Do you have a Heaney plan by any chance? I hate him but he's likely

        Ah, sorry! I'm not doing Heaney, hate all of the poems. I have Plath, Larkin, Kavanagh and Kinsella though!

        Thanks! :)


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭SeanMadd


        ChemHickey wrote: »
        I'm hoping for a nice Hamlet question, don't mind on what though,... preferably something I hadn't prepared, so it'd be fresher.

        Hoping for any easy comparitive ( the 70marker)

        Plath or Rich would make my life <3

        An unseen poem I had seen before :L (That happened to my friend last year! :O )

        RICH! :D And Heaney, either or, I don't mind.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭smithy77


        I've studied:

        Hamlet: Hamlet, Ophelia, Gertrude, Laertes, Fortinbras, Deception and Importance of Solioquys... Still need to do Claudius and Imagery & Symbolism.

        Poetry: Plath, Larkin and Heaney.

        Comparative: Vision & Viewpoint.. Still got to go over Theme of Identity

        :p:p


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


        i haven't started revising yet..... ****ee


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


        Any advice on the best way to cram for Hamlet (I'm studying the characters) and the poetry (I'm revising the wimminz, :P Frost and maybe Kavanagh)? Not much time left now so I kind of need to spend a day or two each at those!


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Cruel Sun


        You should be covered with all that unless they try something sneaky.


        Do you think I'll be covered with these:

        Hamlet
        • Deception/Corruption
        • Hamlet as Noble Hero
        • Characterization of Women
        • Soliloquys
        Could I leave any of the above out.

        Poetry
        • Rich
        • Plath
        • Heaney
        Would I be Covered do ya think?

        Cheers.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭FinnD


        Martin_94 wrote: »
        You should be covered with all that unless they try something sneaky.


        Do you think I'll be covered with these:

        Hamlet
        • Deception/Corruption
        • Hamlet as Noble Hero
        • Characterization of Women
        • Soliloquys
        Could I leave any of the above out.

        Poetry
        • Rich
        • Plath
        • Heaney
        Would I be Covered do ya think?

        Cheers.

        I'd say leave out the women, they've come up before


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


        Is the revenge in Hamlet basically the foils of Hamlet?


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Cruel Sun


        FinnD wrote: »
        I'd say leave out the women, they've come up before

        Everyone seems to think women are coming up though.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


        And everyone thinks it, because everyone thinks it. I honestly dont know where the notion came from except that it was on a mock, its illogical considering the amount of new stuff they can ask - why would they repeat it like.


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Cruel Sun


        Is the revenge in Hamlet basically the foils of Hamlet?

        I typed in "foils of hamlet" into google and clicked into one of the websites and it said this. "Foils are minor characters created in a play to help the audience understand a major character better by giving the major character someone to talk to and compare them to. Ophelia can be considered a foil to Hamlet because she helps us see the different attitudes Hamlet has toward certain things."


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Cruel Sun


        Togepi wrote: »
        Any advice on the best way to cram for Hamlet (I'm studying the characters) and the poetry (I'm revising the wimminz, :P Frost and maybe Kavanagh)? Not much time left now so I kind of need to spend a day or two each at those!

        I'm getting notes together now and just reading through them. But from Saturday on I'll just be studying English, Maths Paper 1 and Geography.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        If Horatio, Polonius, Importance of Soliloquys or The Use of Imagery/Symbolism comes up on Paper II i'll actually die of happiness! <3.

        The Imagery/Symbolism question is soo easy. I've done up some notes and aghh it's just so nice! :) Here's hoping! :D


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


        lolwut, imagery and symbolism of what? :eek:


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 markgisme


        Does anyone have a plan for Imagery/Symbolism?

        I am completely unprepared for English. All I have studied up till now is V&V and LG.

        How are you choosing your various quotes for both Hamlet and the Poets?


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        Patchy~ wrote: »
        lolwut, imagery and symbolism of what? :eek:
        markgisme wrote: »
        Does anyone have a plan for Imagery/Symbolism?

        I am completely unprepared for English. All I have studied up till now is V&V and LG.

        How are you choosing your various quotes for both Hamlet and the Poets?


        Recurring imagery and symbolism in the play. I'm discussing:
        • Images of Death
        • Images of Decay
        • Animal Imagery
        • Flower Imagery
        • Images of False Appearance


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


        Patchy~ wrote: »
        And everyone thinks it, because everyone thinks it. I honestly dont know where the notion came from except that it was on a mock, its illogical considering the amount of new stuff they can ask - why would they repeat it like.

        My teacher seems to think it'll come up too. She made sure everyone had notes on the role of women and went though it twice.
        Martin_94 wrote: »
        I typed in "foils of hamlet" into google and clicked into one of the websites and it said this. "Foils are minor characters created in a play to help the audience understand a major character better by giving the major character someone to talk to and compare them to. Ophelia can be considered a foil to Hamlet because she helps us see the different attitudes Hamlet has toward certain things."

        I think it could be used fo revenge too as the characters are driven by revenge . I think I found a sample answer earlier it used those characters.


      • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭skanger


        Recurring imagery and symbolism in the play. I'm discussing:
        • Images of Death
        • Images of Decay
        • Animal Imagery
        • Flower Imagery
        • Images of False Appearance


        Where are you getting notes on these from, I have keynotes English and it doesn't have much on them and it's usually a great book


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭biohaiid


        Was gonna make a different thread but might as well hop on the bandwagon here..
        For Hamlet I have the following prepared, should it be enough?

        Hamlet
        Claudius
        Women

        False appearances
        Love
        Key scene
        Enduring popularity

        I was planning on briefly doing the minor characters.

        Should that be enough? Theres so much more in the notes book I have but really stuck for time!


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        biohaiid wrote: »
        Was gonna make a different thread but might as well hop on the bandwagon here..
        For Hamlet I have the following prepared, should it be enough?

        Hamlet
        Claudius
        Women

        False appearances
        Love
        Key scene
        Enduring popularity

        I was planning on briefly doing the minor characters.

        Should that be enough? Theres so much more in the notes book I have but really stuck for time!

        I'd take out Love and Claudius and do Loyalty/Betrayal and Polonius/Laertes and Fortinbras instead!


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭fizzyorange


        For Hamlet I was just going to do:

        Hamlet and Claudius
        Hamlet-A Noble Hero

        Appearance vs Reality
        Role of Woman
        Soliloquies

        For the comparative:

        GV+V
        LG (praying for LG though)

        For the poetry:

        Plath
        Rich
        Heaney
        Larkin
        Kavanagh


        Let's hope for the best. :D


      • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


        When I look at all of you speculating what might come up in Hamlet, it makes me so glad that my school don't do it as the single text :P

        Not learning off any specific essays/essay plans for the single text, just going to know it well and wing it on the day. For the comparative, I'm hoping for GV+V or Theme even though it's unlikely. I'll probably prepare Literary Genre but we did it a couple of weeks ago and it just seemed like such waffle.

        Then for the poets, I'm doing Plath, Larkin (and hoping either of them comes up as I love them both), Rich and Heaney (don't like them as much but could write on them if I had to) and Kinsella (my "worst-case-scenario" poet :P)


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Steodonn


        Dose anyone know a place online that has notes on GV+V and theme. I got noting for the comparative


      • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭skanger


        Patchy~ wrote: »
        And everyone thinks it, because everyone thinks it. I honestly dont know where the notion came from except that it was on a mock, its illogical considering the amount of new stuff they can ask - why would they repeat it like.

        The only question I see from before is about Ophelia or Gertrude, it didn't combine them. Combining them gives a new angle on the question, still though I now think it's less likely than I did before


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        Awh ffs. What if they ask about Hamlet/Laertes/Fortinbras as Avengers in the play? It came up in a Mock a couple of years back and with Revenge coming up last year they could put it up so the exams wouldn't be as predictable. Jesus christ. I'm driving myself feckin crazy here thinking about all the stuff they could ask. Roll on Thursday week when I never have to look at Hamlet again. That's 12 essay plans I have to go and try and learn now. Great. I've only been studying since 10.00am like.. :rolleyes:

        I'm going to try and learn maybe 6 now before 10.00pm and get the rest of them done between tomorrow and Thursday.. Aggggggggggggghhhh :mad:


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk


        markgisme wrote: »
        Does anyone have a plan for Imagery/Symbolism?

        I am completely unprepared for English. All I have studied up till now is V&V and LG.

        How are you choosing your various quotes for both Hamlet and the Poets?

        Here you go, markgisme.

        IMAGERY/SYMBOLISM IN HAMLET (Remember - the three types of formal imagery are simile, metaphor and personification)


        SIMILE

        - Shakespeare uses similes to connect seperate images or ideas and suggest shared similarities
        -Ophelia's description of Hamlet's mad acting in her closet in Act 2, Scene 1 is made more terrifying by the simile that compares Hamlet's 'piteous' look with the appearance of someone who had been 'loosed out of hell to speak of horrors'. It makes his madness seem more threatening.
        -The simile gives the sudience a starting reference point to imagine his 'look'. It also reminds the audience of the way the Ghost looks in Act 1, Scene 5 - as if he has been released from the 'sulphurous and tormenting flames' of hell to deliver it's message. This is appropriate because it's the Ghost that inspires Hamlet's madness.

        METAPHOR

        - Alternatively, metaphors create a stronger link between sperate ideas by saying something is something else
        - When Hamlet says that 'Denmark's a prison' he uses a metaphor to emphasise the sense of claustrophobia he feels in the court. The image of the prison works on several levels
        - Shakespeare uses layers of metaphors when he shows Hamlet in competition with Rosencrantz and Guilderstern. In a fast-paced exchange, the world becomes a prison, in which Denmark is one of the 'worst' cells. Rosencrantz picks up the metaphor and says that the prison is in Hamlet's 'mind' to which Hamlet replies that it's his 'bad dreams' which imprison him.

        Motif

        - A recurring image of rot and disease makes Denmark and its court seem infected with sin:
        - Marcellus predicts that 'Something is rotten' in Denmark
        - Claudius says that 'my offence is rank. It smells to heaven' which suggests that his sin is like a dead body
        - Hamlet uses a simile to compare Claudius to a 'mildewed ear' which reminds the audience of the method of Claudius'd crime

        Symbols

        - this technique helps the audience assiciate some of the attributes of the object with the idea it's trying to convey
        - Whe Ophelia gives out flowers in Act 4, Scene 5, she refers to traditional flower symbolism: 'There's rosemary, that's for resemblance'. Kenneth Branagh's film of Hamlet shows Ophelia handing out imaginary flowers to emphasise their status as symbols, as well as evidence of her madness
        - Yorick's skull represents three things in one: it's literally part of the remains of Yorick, it's a reminder of what Yorick was like when he was alive and it;s a symbol of death where the 'face' of death is looking back. The skull is a symbol for the inevitability of death.

        Personification

        - In his soliloquy in Act 2, Scene 2 Hamlet addresses 'O, vengence!' as if it is a spiritual being. This is in the style of Ancient Roman and Medieval plays in which abstract ideas such as Time or Fortune would be played by an actor. Hamlet plays on this tradition with Rosencrantz and Guilderstern when they discuss parts of Fortune's body - he uses vulgar language to suggest they 'live about her waist, or in the middle of her favours'
        - Hamlet personifies a recorder in Act 3, Scene 2. He describes playing the recorder as giveing it 'breath with your mouth' to suggest it can take part in discourse (conversation). Hamlet then uses this personified recorder to imagine the opposite - himself as a recorder. He tells Rosencrantz and Guilderstern that they would 'play upon me...would seem to know my stops'. Hamlet personifies the recorder and objectifies himself to show how he feels about Rosencrantz and Guilderstern manipulating him
        - Shakespeare uses personification to give added power and meaning to the play's dialogue - it increases the impact of the language he uses.

        Imagery reveals more than what the audience can see on stage

        - Imagery, metaphor, simile and personification are important and functional parts of Shakespearean theatre. With limited props, scenery and lighting, Elizabethan stages were blank and open spaces that actors had to transform into scenes using descriptive language and convincing action
        - Imagery enhances the scene for the audience
        - Metaphor and simile make use of objects and experiences familiar to the audience. This helps the audience to connect them to a new or unfamiliar scene on stage
        - Personification and symbolism allow actors to introduce abstract ideas without losing the understanding or attention of the audience
        - Without these techniques, it could be difficult for the audience to imagine the scene in all it's detail and to identify with the characters on stage.

        I hope this helps, markgisme. If I can be of help with anything else just let me know :)


      • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 88 ✭✭skanger


        Here you go, markgisme.

        IMAGERY/SYMBOLISM IN HAMLET (Remember - the three types of formal imagery are simile, metaphor and personification)

        I hope this helps, markgisme. If I can be of help with anything else just let me know :)

        You've succeeded in making my plan for imagery and symbolism look a bit ****e, I think I might do ordinary


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭kayleigh01


        If I can be of help with anything else just let me know :)

        Any chance you'd have something like this for Importance of Soliloquys? I genuinely have no idea how to structure an essay on them. :/

        Or anyone else? I'd be forever in the debt of all you Boardsies. :)


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


        Oh wow thats impressive, far more detailed than I would ever have thought to do! Half hope it doesnt come up, I'd never remember / think of those :')


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


        imagine imagery and symbolism came up! That'd be the worst 4 pages to come up with :O I'm going to learn deception, women, imagery, soliloquys and maybe something else.

        How long are all your Lit Genres? mine is a good 8/9 pages and i don't have anything done about characterisation? They wouldn't ask a LG to inlcude that? They'd hardly be THAT specific, right?

        fingers crossed for Lit Genre though! :D


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


        Here you go, markgisme.

        IMAGERY/SYMBOLISM IN HAMLET (Remember - the three types of formal imagery are simile, metaphor and personification)

        holy mother of god....
        My imagery and symbolism is all about imagery of death and decay, weeds, flowers and false appearances? nothing quite so indepth. maybe i'll incorporate some of that badass **** into it. A1 here i come ;) hahaha thanks btw :)


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭biohaiid


        I'd take out Love and Claudius and do Loyalty/Betrayal and Polonius/Laertes and Fortinbras instead!

        Cheers!
        I thought I had loyalty/betrayal worked into my falsity answer but I'll have a look at my notes again.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭gfgfgf14


        Any hamlet question that comes up,I'm ready for it.
        Plath/Larkin/Kavangh=Joys to write about
        Heaney/Kinsella=Hopefully won't have to go there :D


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


        Awh ffs. What if they ask about Hamlet/Laertes/Fortinbras as Avengers in the play? It came up in a Mock a couple of years back and with Revenge coming up last year they could put it up so the exams wouldn't be as predictable. Jesus christ. I'm driving myself feckin crazy here thinking about all the stuff they could ask. Roll on Thursday week when I never have to look at Hamlet again. That's 12 essay plans I have to go and try and learn now. Great. I've only been studying since 10.00am like.. :rolleyes:

        I'm going to try and learn maybe 6 now before 10.00pm and get the rest of them done between tomorrow and Thursday.. Aggggggggggggghhhh :mad:

        That'd be a simple question as it pertains to the theme of revenge. They won't ask obscure questions just to throw students off. An exam is meant to test your knowledge of given material, not encapsulate a trap for those who didn't memorise the whole play line by line.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


        I won't be writing essays but I will be doing keypoints on each topic.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        You know the struggle between Hamlet and Claudius question, is this the right format you'd use for that question- it just doesn't look right to me:
        • General introduction, matched adversaries, keep the audience enthralled etc.
        Claudius
        • A clever and perceptive villain (opening scene wins admiration from court, trys to appease Hamlet, decides to keep Hamlet in Elsinore so he can watch over him)
        • Makes regular and effective use of flattery: Manipulates people into helping him defeat Hamlet, Polonius (spying), Rosencrantz and Guildenstern 'glean information'
        • Cunningly devises Hamlet's death: Ensures no blame will be placed on him or his co-inspirator, Laertes 'No wind of blame shall breathe'
        • Unscrupulous character- muder of King Hamlet, lack of ethics by willingness to spy etc.
        • Does not hesitate on organising Hamlet's death: 'Do it England, for like the hectic in my blood he rages' etc. Under pretence of collecting 'monies'. Manipulates Laertes' grief in an attempt to help him kill Hamlet
        Hamlet
        • Similarly clever and sharp witted throughout his struggle with Claudius- adopts an 'antic disposition', sees through the 'false facade' of R+G friendship, most ingeniously, devises 'mousetrap' to catch Claudius out 'the play's the thing within i'll catch the conscience of the king'
        • Can be unprincipled throughout his struggle with Claudius- Treatment of Ophelia/Gertrude (Nunnery/Closet scene). Rash slaying of 'bloody rash intruding fool' Polonius, shows no sign of remorse after 'i'll lug the guts into the neighbour room'. Dispatches R+G to their deaths, 'they are not near my conscience, their defeat by their own insinutation grows'
        Conclusion

        Is this ok? I'm not sure whether it'd work for that question or not however! Thanks to anyone for helping (you can rob stuff out of that essay plan if ye want :P)


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


        Hamlet & Claudius
        • Sustained throughout - Plans made/upset
        • Hostility known form the start
        • Thinker Vs Doer - Opposites
        • Moral as well as Political/Physical struggle
        • Humour - Antic Disposition/Polonius/Hamlet and Ophelia before The Mousetrap
        • Behaviour of a Family at war revealed
        • Investigation on both Sides - Claudius uses R & G/Ophelia - Hamlet uses Mousetrap

        That's my plan anyhow :P


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭mufc1993


        For Hamlet I have answers on the following:
        • Imagery in Hamlet
        • The struggle between Hamlet and Claudius
        • Theme of deception
        • Characterisation of women in the play
        • Handouts on the 'character of Hamlet' and 'Claudius: A credible villain'

        How do you think I'm prepared? Our teacher gave us a list of q's that came up before and a list of q's to watch out for...Is there a good chance questions won't repeat themselves?
        With the exam just over a week away I wouldn't have any time to write up more than 1 more essay, so does anyone know of any helpful revision sites or books that are a good last minute help?

        For the comparative I've studied theme/issue (conflict to be precise) and GVVP. Hopefully I'll be okay in that.

        At this stage I think I'll just to Plath and Heaney in detail for the poetry. Is that a big risk?!


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Spattersonox


        mufc1993 wrote: »
        At this stage I think I'll just to Plath and Heaney in detail for the poetry. Is that a big risk?!

        of course it is a risk, anything less than 5 is considered risky! But I'm going to learn those two too and look at Larkin ;)


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


        everyone please learn 5 poets! you do not want to risk 50 marks for all the work you have put in!! Plath and Heaney are favoured to come up but the paper was so predictable last year it won't be this year! and 5th years are studying Plath so they could leave her til next year and put Boland up 2 years in a row!
        they put Yeats up 2 years in a row..
        trust me i'm a REPEAT you will be so sick at yourself if you can't write an answer on a poet because you just did 2.
        and they don't have to put a woman up, it just happens there always has been..
        i'm only saying because i took a risk in accounting last year with predictions and got a D2 in a subject i got a B1 in my mocks in because the questions that came up were ones i hadn't studied....


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


        For Hamlet I'm studying:

        Hamlet, Horatio, The women, Polonius, Soliloquys, love, loyalty vs betrayal, false appearances and i can hopefully wing a question on comedy or imagery :D
        fingers crossed!


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


        xclw wrote: »
        For Hamlet I'm studying:

        Hamlet, Horatio, The women, Polonius, Soliloquys, love, loyalty vs betrayal, false appearances and i can hopefully wing a question on comedy or imagery :D
        fingers crossed!
        <3 doing all these! If a repeats doing these I must be sorted!


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


        <3 doing all these! If a repeats doing these I must be sorted!

        just hoping that fortinbras, Laertes, the ghost or it's popularity don't come up :P other than that we'll be okay, because you can change things to deception and other topics like that :D


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