*Student Grant*

Scarlett Scout

I rang my SUSI at the beginning of the month to ask about the student grant, they told me it would be up the middle of this month. My guidance counsellor told us it should be up by now
Anyone else know more info. or when it was up last year?:)

finality

It wasn't up last year, this year is the first year of it. Should be up soon I'd say, and there's no rush!

BeanbagBallbag

It should be up tomorrow.

BeanbagBallbag

Dear David,



Thank you for contacting SUSI.



Details of this year’s Student Grant Scheme are expected to be published by the Department of Education and Skills on the 11th of June and the SUSI online application system will be available from that date. The online application facility will be available through www.studentfinance.ie.



As soon as the online application system opens for the 2012/13 academic year, currently scheduled for the 11th of June, applicants will be able to register online with SUSI and then complete the online application form.



I hope this information helps, should you require any further details please don't hesitate to contact me.



Kind Regards,

Danielle

^^

karkar athlete

Nothing to worry about at the moment should concentrate on your Leaving Cert, last year the orginal deadline for applications was August 31st then my county council extended it until December 31st :eek:. There is plenty of time to get it done, just put the head down the get though the leaving.;)

AnnaKin

sooo.... june 11th?

steve2012

AnnaKin wrote: »

sooo.... june 11th?

Looks like it ! Atleast there will be less hastle going on it everyday to see is it up, 11th of June it is then

oB1

Anyone know, what specifically they look for Documentation wise?

steve2012

RobertHopkins wrote: »

Anyone know, what specifically they look for Documentation wise?

watch this video they have put up , it explains what you need and have to do
http://vimeo.com/41277495

oB1

steve2012 wrote: »

watch this video they have put up , it explains what you need and have to do
http://vimeo.com/41277495

Cheers for that

karkar athlete

A lot of information here http://www.louthcoco.ie/en/Services/Higher-Education-Grants/ on the links the doc has the most what you need really but here is most of it I think......

Basically,
For Appilcant - Birth Certificate for applicant
- Evidence of Residence in State for 3 out of last 5 years
- CAO Acceptance for new applicants
- Previous years exam results for applicants who have previous years studied
Income Details Needed:
PAYE Workers- P21 (Balance statement obtained from Revenue)
- P60 for all employments on P21
- P45 if applicable for employment on P21
Social Welfare Payments - Social Welfare Statement
Self Employed - Notice of Assessment (Balance Statement obtained from Revenue
- Full set of Accounts (Jan-Dec) (Trading Profit & Loss, Capital Account & Balance Sheet)
- Adjusted Profit/Loss Computation (this is required when amount on Notice of Assessment and accounts don’t correspond)
- P35 listings (if business has employees)
But there is an extended list (all of which will not apply):
· Birth Certificate
· Evidence of nationality
· Documentry evidence if you have siblings in college also
· Course acceptance
· Income

• P60 for each employment which you held/parents at the end of the 2011 tax year and which you get from your employer(s);
• P21 PAYE Balancing Statement for 2011
• P45 if you/parents ceased employment in 2011
• Payslips for the candidate’s earnings from holiday employment outside of term time in 2011
• Income earned in a previous tax year:
  • a letter from the employer stating the amount earned in 2010 which was paid in 2011 and was included in the P60/P45 for 2011. The letter must also state any amount earned in 2011 which was not paid in 2011 but was carried over to be paid in 2012.

o Non-recurring overtime payments:
§ a letter from the employer stating the overtime will not recur in the current tax year. It will also be necessary to provide a P60 for both the 2011 and 2010 tax years. Where overtime has been disregarded as reckonable income, all such cases will be re-assessed in the following academic year.
o Foreign income:
§ We need documentary evidence for the tax year, 1 January 2011 to 31 December 2011.
· If social welfare then:

• a statement from the Department of Social Protection which has the following information:
  • the name of the person getting the payment,
  • the type of payment,
  • the amount the person got in 2011,
  • whether the payment included a Qualified Adult Allowance and if so, the amount,
  • whether the payment included a Child Dependent Increase and if so, for how many children and the amount for each child,
  • the date the payments started,
  • the date the payments stopped (if applicable).

o If you are in receipt of a social welfare payment from outside Ireland, you will need to send us the above details from the relevant authority
· Payments from other government departments or state agencies, such as, the Health Service Executive (HSE), FÁS, or a local authority

• a statement from each government department or state agency with the following information:
  • the name of the person getting the payment,
  • the type of payment,
  • the amount the person got in 2011,
  • the date the payments started,
  • the date the payments stopped, (if applicable).

· For self-employed:

• Copy of accounts (that is, trading account, profit and loss account, capital account and balance sheet) for each business for the year ending between 1 January 2011 and 31 December 2011. The accounts extracts pages from your Return of Income do not satisfy this accounts requirement;

o Adjusted Profit Computation for income tax for the 2011 tax year;
o Notice of Assessment for 2011 or its foreign equivalent;
o If it applies to you, a current letter from the Revenue Commissioners exempting you from filing tax returns or equivalent from another state;
o If the accounts contain a wage or remuneration expense, you must give us the detailed breakdown mentioned above under wages and remuneration adjustment.

· Rental or other income from land property
o Copy of accounts (that is, trading account, profit and loss account, capital account and balance sheet) or statement of rental income for the year ended 31 December 2011. The accounts extracts pages from your Return of Income do not satisfy this accounts requirement;
o Adjusted Profit Computation for income tax for 2011;
o Notice of Assessment for 2011 or its foreign equivalent;
o If it applies to you, a current letter from the Revenue Commissioners exempting you from filing tax returns or equivalent from another state;
o If the accounts contain a wage or remuneration expense, you must give us the detailed breakdown mentioned in these guidance notes at Section F, F4 ‘Self Employment and Farming, Wages and remuneration adjustment’.

· Details of proprietary directorships and shareholdings
o the registered name of the company;
o the registered number of the company;
o the percentage of voting rights that you control.

· Income from pensions other than the Social Welfare State Pension
o a letter from your employer(s) or the body/bodies administering your pension;
o P60(s) confirming the gross amount you received in 2011;
o P21 PAYE Balancing Statement or Notice of Assessment for 2011.

· Income from savings, deposit accounts and investments
o Statements of the interest/dividends paid from the financial institution or other provider, for example, bank, building society, post office or credit union, and so on, covering the period 1January 2011 to 31 December 2011;
o P21 PAYE Balancing Statement or Notice of Assessment for 2011.

· Income from maintenance arrangements
o Maintenance agreement stating the amount of maintenance you receive each month;
o P21 PAYE Balancing Statement or Notice of Assessment for 2011;
o Evidence of maintenance payments as well as evidence of any bills, mortgages, rent, tuition or any other such payments made as part of the maintenance arrangement.

· Lump sum payments from retirement and redundancy
o a letter from your employer or the body administering your pension stating:
§ your date of retirement;
§ the gross amount of your lump sum
§ the number of years of pensionable service or the number of years of contributions;
§ your gross annual pension.
o a letter from your employer stating:
§ the date you ceased employment or became redundant;
§ the gross amount of your lump sum;
§ the number of years of service with your employer.

There are a couple more things but they are all explained in the guidance notes available in the link above even though they are for last year the only thing that should change are the dates in it.

karkar athlete

ok that didnt quite work :eek: but I attached it as a word document, easier on the eyes......;)

@steve2012 and @RobertHopkins I come on to this and it is Meath peeps helping Meath peeps :P (I am from Meath too!!!)

steve2012

karkar athlete wrote: »

ok that didnt quite work :eek: but I attached it as a word document, easier on the eyes......;)

@steve2012 and @RobertHopkins I come on to this and it is Meath peeps helping Meath peeps :P (I am from Meath too!!!)

ha ,ah sure the royals stick together !

oB1

karkar athlete wrote: »

ok that didnt quite work :eek: but I attached it as a word document, easier on the eyes......;)

@steve2012 and @RobertHopkins I come on to this and it is Meath peeps helping Meath peeps :P (I am from Meath too!!!)

steve2012 wrote: »

ha ,ah sure the royals stick together !

Haha didnt actually notice that one - good thing i suppose

QueenOfLeon

Just noticed this thread in the Student Finances forum which should have all the information you need.

JonnyMcNamee

RobertHopkins wrote: »

karkar athlete wrote: »

ok that didnt quite work :eek: but I attached it as a word document, easier on the eyes......;)

@steve2012 and @RobertHopkins I come on to this and it is Meath peeps helping Meath peeps :P (I am from Meath too!!!)

steve2012 wrote: »

ha ,ah sure the royals stick together !

Haha didnt actually notice that one - good thing i suppose

Mon the Roayals!

KKBL

Does anybody know what the income limits are? I need to know whether I'm entitled to a grant or nor before July 1st as it will affect whether I move away from home or not...

karkar athlete

all the basic information is here http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/education/third_level_education/fees_and_supports_for_third_level_education/maintenance_grant_schemes_for_students_on_third_level_courses.html

keep scrolling down and you will find your information

Iony94

Does anyone knows what is the closing date of this program ? I've applied already but i'm going away for 3-4 weeks, so I'm afraid that i might be asked to send back documentation and i won't be here to do so ... By what date should the documents be sent back to them ?

LoonyLovegood

If you accept a place outside of Ireland, are you eligible for a grant?

QueenOfLeon

Iony94 wrote: »

Does anyone knows what is the closing date of this program ? I've applied already but i'm going away for 3-4 weeks, so I'm afraid that i might be asked to send back documentation and i won't be here to do so ... By what date should the documents be sent back to them ?

I haven't seen anything on it this year, but before now it was usually by the end of August. Keep an eye on the studentfinance.ie page, it has the application forms there so it should put up a closing date at some stage.

CTYIgirl wrote: »

If you accept a place outside of Ireland, are you eligible for a grant?

From the first page about the maintenance grant here: "Support is available to eligible students in most colleges in Ireland as well as eligible Irish students in many colleges in Northern Ireland, the UK and other EU States." You could give them a ring and check if there are any different procedures for colleges outside Ireland.

oB1

Guys,

Any ideas when we should hear back from SUSI RE: New Applications? - i applied when it opened like 2/3 weeks ago, but have heard nothing

Anybody else?

Wilwarin

I just rang SUSI and asked do I have to send the documents if my sister has already sent them. They said that I have to. What about the documents that I can't get twice?

spurious

What documents can you not get copies of?

RobertHopkins

RobertHopkins wrote: »

Guys,

Any ideas when we should hear back from SUSI RE: New Applications? - i applied when it opened like 2/3 weeks ago, but have heard nothing

Anybody else?

Same as me, the fact they were so slow to open the system probably means they'll be slow in getting through the applications too.

biohaiid

Does anyone know when the deadline for completeing this is?
I'm still confused as to what I actually have to do and haven't made a start.

QueenOfLeon

biohaiid wrote: »

Does anyone know when the deadline for completeing this is?
I'm still confused as to what I actually have to do and haven't made a start.

Its usually August, but I haven't seen a date published yet, there's a new process in for it this year.

Everything you need is here, you'll need to apply online and start filling out the forms!

fizzyorange

Hey everyone.
I've half of my susi application filled out but I think it's all wrong now. For the parent part I put down how much my guardian made in 2011 and I the only slot I said was N/A. I'm now in the hospital waiting room and my nan, my guardian is dying. I don't know what to do. Do I put down on my susi application that I have no one now? Are there any other grants I could get? I don't know why I'm even doing this now, I just need something else to focus on I guess. I really want to go to college but now I have nothing. If anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it.

silversky

fizzyorange wrote: »

Hey everyone.
I've half of my susi application filled out but I think it's all wrong now. For the parent part I put down how much my guardian made in 2011 and I the only slot I said was N/A. I'm now in the hospital waiting room and my nan, my guardian is dying. I don't know what to do. Do I put down on my susi application that I have no one now? Are there any other grants I could get? I don't know why I'm even doing this now, I just need something else to focus on I guess. I really want to go to college but now I have nothing. If anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it.

Sorry to hear that about your grandmother.

The only thing I would advise you to do is contact SUSI through their email or phone number with that enquiry. I don't think anyone here would have a correct answer to those questions tbh.

Wilwarin

spurious wrote: »

What documents can you not get copies of?

P60 for example

chomps_x

Wilwarin wrote: »

I just rang SUSI and asked do I have to send the documents if my sister has already sent them. They said that I have to. What about the documents that I can't get twice?

Can you not download that from the revenue commission? I remember my dad doing that when I was applying for the HEAR scheme in feb

Caireann

Wilwarin wrote: »

I just rang SUSI and asked do I have to send the documents if my sister has already sent them. They said that I have to. What about the documents that I can't get twice?

Did you get a reply back from susi? I applied the 11th of june and still havent heard anything back, it says not to send in anything untill you get a reply

Seren_

Wilwarin wrote: »

I just rang SUSI and asked do I have to send the documents if my sister has already sent them. They said that I have to. What about the documents that I can't get twice?

I'm pretty sure photocopies are usually accepted? That's what me and my brother used to send in (not to SUSI though. it was to Sligo county council) and there were never any problems.

Zipppy

Wee question for the experts

A friends daughter is applying for grant...her mums is divorced and her only income is SW / maintenance..dad isnt living wit them .. is copy divorce agreement needed to shwo maintenance payment amount or what is required there??

Am I right in assuming that she only needs a SW staement of payments for 2011?
I assume no need for P21 ? P 60 etc etc as these didnt apply...ie she paid no income tax..

Also the girl herself worked part time for a bit....I assume she will need P21 P45 and P60 ??? Does it take long to get these from Revenue??

Cheers

Lucario

Has anyone filled out the SUSI grant and submitted it yet? I'm just wondering if you received an email or anything confirming you have done so. I completed and submitted mine on Monday and I believe they said something about emailing me shortly. The 'Application Status' box on my SUSI account is currently blank - should this change soon or what's the deal?

Bpmull

Lucario wrote: »

Has anyone filled out the SUSI grant and submitted it yet? I'm just wondering if you received an email or anything confirming you have done so. I completed and submitted mine on Monday and I believe they said something about emailing me shortly. The 'Application Status' box on my SUSI account is currently blank - should this change soon or what's the deal?

I finished my grant form today and got an email with in an hour. It just said that the susi would contact me by post after they assessed my form it also had a copy of my application at the end.

Lucario

Bpmull wrote: »

I finished my grant form today and got an email with in an hour. It just said that the susi would contact me by post after they assessed my form it also had a copy of my application at the end.

Yeah I thought I should have gotten it immediately My internet kept disconnecting that day, however besides that, I'm wondering if I should have gotten an email, just in case it didn't actually send and my account is misleading me :L

Bpmull

Lucario wrote: »

Yeah I thought I should have gotten it immediately My internet kept disconnecting that day, however besides that, I'm wondering if I should have gotten an email, just in case it didn't actually send and my account is misleading me :L

If you log into susi with your ussername it should come up with your grant application and on mine it just says submitted. If you check and yours says submitted then I wouldn't worry to much about the email.

conlor27

Has anyone heard anything from susi yet or gotten the evidence pack in the post?

PictureFrame

conlor27 wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything from susi yet or gotten the evidence pack in the post?

No.

Lucario

PictureFrame wrote: »

No.

Muir

Some mature students have started receiving their grant packs, so they've started sending them out at least.
Don't worry though, they can be veryy slow with the whole grant process, it's actually much faster this year than previous years. I suggest you get your P60s and parents P60s together, apply for P21s, P45 if needed, long form birth cert. You need to make photocopies if them all & it can take a few days to get P21s and you may need to go in to get a copy of your birth cert, so it's worth getting these things organised now so you haven them all ready to send off.

Mysteriouschic

I finished mine today are we meant to send the evidence if they ring and ask?

QueenOfLeon

Zipppy wrote: »

Wee question for the experts

A friends daughter is applying for grant...her mums is divorced and her only income is SW / maintenance..dad isnt living wit them .. is copy divorce agreement needed to shwo maintenance payment amount or what is required there??

Am I right in assuming that she only needs a SW staement of payments for 2011?
I assume no need for P21 ? P 60 etc etc as these didnt apply...ie she paid no income tax..

Also the girl herself worked part time for a bit....I assume she will need P21 P45 and P60 ??? Does it take long to get these from Revenue??

Cheers

If you have a look at the forms on the Student Finance Site it should tell you what documents are needed. I haven't looked at this years one yet, but previous forms always had it marked very clearly where there was a document needed and how to get it.

The grant is based on the parents finances if she is dependent on them, so if she had a part time job she wouldn't have to get the documents for that, as far as I know.

QueenOfLeon

fizzyorange wrote: »

Hey everyone.
I've half of my susi application filled out but I think it's all wrong now. For the parent part I put down how much my guardian made in 2011 and I the only slot I said was N/A. I'm now in the hospital waiting room and my nan, my guardian is dying. I don't know what to do. Do I put down on my susi application that I have no one now? Are there any other grants I could get? I don't know why I'm even doing this now, I just need something else to focus on I guess. I really want to go to college but now I have nothing. If anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it.

Sorry to hear about that fizzyorange.

I would definitely ring the SUSI. The grant goes on 2011 finances, but as far as I know from the old application (I haven't had a chance to look at the new layout yet) there was a change of circumstances section where you would fill in if there was any reason finances would be different this year.

As far as other sources of finance go, you can email the college or colleges you might be going to and ask about the Student Assistance Fund. I don't think you can apply until you've registered in the college, but its extra assistance for those especially in need of funds. Information about the NUIG one is here, and the general scheme here.

I hope things work out for you. Again, sorry to hear about your grandmother. There are always ways to get help financially, so don't worry if things look impossible right now. Once you're in college, your Students Union will be able to give you some advice as well

Muir

Wilwarin wrote: »

P60 for example

You can ask an employer for a copy of your P60. Your sister should not have sent originals, she should have sent in copies. Photocopy the documents, then send them.

iFreeley

Hey just a quick question on something that i'm not sure on.
I'm starting 6th year in September and i was just wondering about the student grant for this time 14 months for me ?
I see that for a course in NUIG the fee's are around €13,000, when i receive the grant does it automatically pay for this? From what i read on the student finance website the 100% grant is around €3000? do i only get that towards the college fee's? A little explanation would do wonders, really confused

Nicole.

Hey iFreeley, correct me if I'm wrong but if you're a first time undergraduate student you don't have to pay tuition fees, the government automatically pay them for you regardless of whether you are applying for a grant or not (for Irish universities). I'm assuming that that charge of 13,000 euro is tution fees but I'm not sure.

Undergraduates are eligible to pay the "student contribution fees" which are 2,250 euro at present but even if you get a partial grant you don't have to pay this, the government will.

iFreeley

Cheers for the info nicole
So if i do receive a grant, my university studies will essentially be paid for?
And the €3025 for a full 100% grant will be mine? none of that will be deducted from the fee's or contribution?
And is all that only for first year or all of my time in uni?

Muir

iFreely, I responded before your thread got moved so my post appears to have been deleted.

Once you are an EU citizen, the 13,000 doesn't apply. If you are eligible for a grant, the 2,250 which the fees are currently will be paid. You may also receive an additional amount of money for other expenses like travel, and this amount is dependent on your income, this is the 3,000 you are referring to.

This link will tell you the levels of income and what you are entitled to based on each income level:
http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/1341494564/Schedule_1_reckonable_income_limit_2012.pdf

And this one has the various amounts of money you may get. Non-adjacent is if you live more than 45km from the college, otherwise you are looking at the adjacent rate:
http://www.studentfinance.ie/mp9552/grant-levels/index.html

Also, the amounts of income allowed is based on your and your parents/guardians combined income before tax. Hope that helps.

QueenOfLeon

iFreeley wrote: »

Hey just a quick question on something that i'm not sure on.
I'm starting 6th year in September and i was just wondering about the student grant for this time 14 months for me ?
I see that for a course in NUIG the fee's are around €13,000, when i receive the grant does it automatically pay for this? From what i read on the student finance website the 100% grant is around €3000? do i only get that towards the college fee's? A little explanation would do wonders, really confused

Merged to keep all the grant stuff together.

If you're an Irish student, you get "free fees", so that €13,000 does not apply to you. You'd only have to pay fees if you changed course and start first year of a different course again.

What you do have to pay as an Irish student is the registration fee. Last year this was €2,000, it will go up by €250 per year for the next 4 years so yours will be €2,500. If you qualify for the maintenance grant, this is paid for you at most levels. If you look at the table here, the tick for "student contribution paid" is this fee.

The top rate you could get is €3,025, depending on your parents' income, which you can check here. There is also a special rate of €5,915, which I think depends on social welfare payments. The money used to be given out in 3 cheques spaced out over the year in equal sums, but that's changing this year to monthly payments.