British army recruitment question

shakin

Hi im seriously considering joining the british army,

Im hoping to join the Royal Military Police, has anyone any info on them other than the army website?

Also how did you find the whole joing process..

thanks

thecommietommy

shakin wrote: »

Hi im seriously considering joining the british army,

Im hoping to join the Royal Military Police, has anyone any info on them other than the army website?

Also how did you find the whole joing process..

thanks

There you go Einstein http://www.google.ie/

shakin

thecommietommy wrote: »

There you go Einstein http://www.google.ie/

google is this new?

just wouldnt mind hearing personal experiences also,

thanks

OS119

shakin wrote: »

....Im hoping to join the Royal Military Police, has anyone any info on them other than the army website?

yes, everybody hates them.

what is it that interests you about the job - maybe we can suggest other jobs that don't carry the same social stigma: Estate Agent, Banker, professional paedeophile etc...

i'm tongue in cheek - a bit, but be under no illusions that you'll be treated like everyone else in a 'we're all professionals under the cap badges' style - you won't, you'll be about as welcome as syphallis and just as highly regarded.

shakin

OS119 wrote: »

yes, everybody hates them.

what is it that interests you about the job - maybe we can suggest other jobs that don't carry the same social stigma: Estate Agent, Banker, professional paedeophile etc...

i'm tongue in cheek - a bit, but be under no illusions that you'll be treated like everyone else in a 'we're all professionals under the cap badges' style - you won't, you'll be about as welcome as syphallis and just as highly regarded.

hi, yes i done a good bit of research on them, i can see they arent well liked, but are they not alongside infantry on the frontline? does the hatred to them end in those situations?

Ive always had an interest in army and police and i t.hink this combines the two well, would like to maybe join a civilian police force down the line

groundshaker

Serving with the infantry on the frontline??? Are you havin a giraffe?? Honestly can't see why anyone joins the army wanting to be an RMP, although it is a handy number though!

shakin

groundshaker wrote: »

Serving with the infantry on the frontline??? Are you havin a giraffe?? Honestly can't see why anyone joins the army wanting to be an RMP, although it is a handy number though!

According to videos on youtube RMP are embedded in infantry units in FOB's go on patrol with regular infantry???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLCGVJDGjt0

OS119

shakin wrote: »

hi, yes i done a good bit of research on them, i can see they arent well liked, but are they not alongside infantry on the frontline? does the hatred to them end in those situations?

Ive always had an interest in army and police and i t.hink this combines the two well, would like to maybe join a civilian police force down the line

yes, RMP do serve on the frontline, right at the front in extra-ordinarily dangerous roles within the COIN doctrine. they will be involved in foot patrols in Helmand province today and they'll be involved in training the Afghan Army and Police and living with them day-to-day (death sentence work if you ask me) - and they do play a very important role in the war (and probably, wars of the future). that said, they are still gits.

sadly(ish), even though the RMP team who live in a patrol base alongside their Infantry, RE, RA, Cav etc colleagues are accepted while they are there, as soon as they get home they'll be outcasts again. nature of the beast i'm afraid - it would be ok if you're in a large garrison with a sizable RMP presence that you can be part of and socialise with, but if you're the only Monkey at a location, i'd genuinely expect to be a very lonely individual.

people will be civil to you - not least because they are scared of the RMP - but there'll be no warmth, constant suspicion, and people will never, ever take you into their confidence. awful job - particularly in comparrison with the same job in the IA - because in the BA you live with your colleagues from other Arms.

tac foley

Being a lonely member of the RMP is about as popular a choice of army career as being the only Jesuit at a Bar Mitzvah.

We all know that they are necessary, but they really do work at making themselves as unwanted as a dose of coughing fits at the same time as the sh!ts.

Still do as you think best - it's your life, eh?

tac

Delancey

OP , someone here will know for sure but my understanding is that direct entry to the RMP is not possible and you would need to join another regiment first and after a while seek a transfer to RMP - perhaps others can confirm ?

I do know that a number of very senior British Police officers have served in the RMP before joining the civilian Police.

OS119

Delancey wrote: »

OP , someone here will know for sure but my understanding is that direct entry to the RMP is not possible and you would need to join another regiment first and after a while seek a transfer to RMP - perhaps others can confirm ?...

no, RMP is direct entry for Officers and Other Ranks.

why anyone would want to is perhaps a matter for a deathbed confession...

tac foley

Delancey wrote: »

I do know that a number of very senior British Police officers have served in the RMP before joining the civilian Police.

That probably goes a long way to explaining the way that some of them have acted over the years....

Petty tyrants as JNCOs become much bigger tyrants when offered the chance to exercise their craft on an unwitting public.

Over in BAOR we had a habit of carrying a spare 5 litre container of fuel in the trunk of the car - not in case we ran out, but in the lucky event of finding an RMP patrol vehicle on fire at the side of the road. We would offer to add our spare fuel to the burn, thereby keeping it going until the emergency services arrived.

tac

Delancey

Interesting to learn RMP operates direct entry , some folks here may remember a very senior Police chief in England - he was James Anderton and was Chief Constable of Greater Manchester for many years , he was the darling of those who read the Readers Digest and was noted ( or notorious ) for his ' eccentric ' views on homosexuality and other social issues.
Guess where he served his National Service ?

Delancey

Everyone I have ever met who served in the BA has an opinion on the RMP broadly in line with the views expressed on this thread.
Would the same views apply in the Defence Forces here ?

shakin

Delancey wrote: »

Everyone I have ever met who served in the BA has an opinion on the RMP broadly in line with the views expressed on this thread.
Would the same views apply in the Defence Forces here ?

Ya that would be interesting to know, RMP certainlycdont seem to go down well at all!

shakin

Heading to an meeting with recruiter next week, whats the dress code for that?
Any idea what happens that day?

OS119

shakin wrote: »

Heading to an meeting with recruiter next week, whats the dress code for that?
Any idea what happens that day?

should be just a general chat - what do you want to do, why, what your options are... etc.

i'd suggest that you dress as you would for any interview - so a plain suit, clean, ironed shirt, conservative tie and clean, polished shoes. and plain, dark socks - you aren't applying to join the RAF.

always remember thats it easy to 'dress down' once you get into a situation that demands it - whipping you tie off for instance. it is much, much harder to 'dress-up' if you get there and discover that everyone else going for the same job looks like they've made more effort than you. thats the crux - you're wanting somebody to give you a job, for which there are lots of applicants - if you want to the recruiter to think 'decent bloke', then you need him to think its important to you, and that you're making the effort.

personally, i'd suggest having a couple of potential ideas about what you want to do - if the RMP is very much what you want to because of the investigative element, then perhaps think about an Int Corps role as an alternative, with something very different as your 'left-field' choice - like UAV Operator, Royal Artillery, or EW Operator, Royal Signals. this shows you're serious about being 'Army', rather that just RMP, and that you're interested in the big wide world that the Army has to offer.

shakin

OS119 wrote: »

should be just a general chat - what do you want to do, why, what your options are... etc.

i'd suggest that you dress as you would for any interview - so a plain suit, clean, ironed shirt, conservative tie and clean, polished shoes. and plain, dark socks - you aren't applying to join the RAF.

always remember thats it easy to 'dress down' once you get into a situation that demands it - whipping you tie off for instance. it is much, much harder to 'dress-up' if you get there and discover that everyone else going for the same job looks like they've made more effort than you. thats the crux - you're wanting somebody to give you a job, for which there are lots of applicants - if you want to the recruiter to think 'decent bloke', then you need him to think its important to you, and that you're making the effort.

personally, i'd suggest having a couple of potential ideas about what you want to do - if the RMP is very much what you want to because of the investigative element, then perhaps think about an Int Corps role as an alternative, with something very different as your 'left-field' choice - like UAV Operator, Royal Artillery, or EW Operator, Royal Signals. this shows you're serious about being 'Army', rather that just RMP, and that you're interested in the big wide world that the Army has to offer.

Your probably right first impressions and all that, actually intelligence operative is my second choice intelligence linguist as my third (well provisionally anyway) still researching all the jobs. Maybe a let-field choice would be a good idea, showing an interest in the army rather than a specific job

Thanks

Poccington

26 + 6 = 1... Week ban for Conscript.

Poccington

Delancey wrote: »

Everyone I have ever met who served in the BA has an opinion on the RMP broadly in line with the views expressed on this thread.
Would the same views apply in the Defence Forces here ?

Oh yes.

tac foley

Please note - From the MoD pages re: Intelligence Corps recruiting guidelines

The applicant must have been born British or held British nationality for >10 years.

No dual nationals need apply.

The applicant must have been resident in the UK for >10 years.

The applicant must not have travelled to any of the proscribed list countries, or spent any protracted period of time away from the UK in the 10 years prior to his/her application to join the Intelligence Corps.

Both parents of the applicant must be British citizens with >10 years continuous residency in the UK.

Please read - http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/INT_Operator_MI.pdf

I would not like you to get your hopes up and then have the recruiter p!ss in your hat.

tac

shakin

tac foley wrote: »

Please note - From the MoD pages re: Intelligence Corps recruiting guidelines

1. The applicant must have been born British or held British nationality for >10 years.2. No dual nationals need apply.

3. The applicant must have been resident in the UK for >10 years.

4. The applicant must not have travelled to any of the proscribed list countries, or spent any protracted period of time away from the UK in the 10 years prior to his/her application to join the Intelligence Corps.

Please read - http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/INT_Operator_MI.pdf

I would not like you to get your hopes up and then have the recruiter p!ss in your hat.

tac

Ah crap i overlooked that, schoolboy error! back to role finder i guess

Manic Moran

The applicant must not have travelled to any of the proscribed list countries,

That could be a bit steep... what's on the list?

tac foley

The usual places like North Korea, Yemen, Albania, Syria, many countries in Africa and South America, Tibet, Sudan, Ethiopia - that kind of locale.

So basically, if you've been a missionary to the Horn of Africa, or employed by the WHO/UNICEF in strange and unhealty country, you can forget it.

I'm sure that you are acquainted with the relevant countries from a US POV, so it is axiomtaic that anybody hoping to become part of an AUSCANUKUS organisation like the British Army's Intelligence Corps will have identical restrictions on their travels.

Basically, anywhere that YOU as a US citizen member of the any part of the US Armed Forces - particularly those employed on INTEL duties, or with them as your basic MOS, can't go, they can't go either.

tac

Delancey

Manic Moran wrote: »

That could be a bit steep... what's on the list?

Probably any country ending in the letters ....stan - they all seem to be utter sh1tholes .
Do US citizens still have restrictions placed on travelling to Cuba ?

tac foley

Well, I still can't go to Cuba...twelve years after I left the Army.

tac

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Border-Rat

Does boards.ie serve as an official outlet for British military recruitment?

It wasn't me!

Border-Rat wrote: »

Does boards.ie serve as an official outlet for British military recruitment?

No, and as has been stated before, asking questions and discussing it is not a problem either.

Delancey

Border-Rat wrote: »

Does boards.ie serve as an official outlet for British military recruitment?

No it does not . However , given the current economic conditions recruitment to the Irish Defence Forces has been very limited in recent times , for many people aspiring to a military career the UK offers the best opportunity to pursue that career , thats why joining the British forces is discussed here.

Manic Moran

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Border-Rat wrote: »

Does boards.ie serve as an official outlet for British military recruitment?

OK, I've had it to here with these comments which keep cropping up. The rules and laws regarding talking about joining British, or any other nation's militaries are in the forum charter.

A week off.

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