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personal injuries board independent medical assessment

  • 14-05-2012 11:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16


    Hi i had my independent medical examination 6 weeks ago.
    How does it take to hear back in regards settlement?
    Is it within 9 months in total from when the claim was sent into the personal injuries board or within 9 months after the independent medical?
    just would like some information on this.

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    pebbles 12 wrote: »
    Hi i had my independent medical examination 6 weeks ago.
    How does it take to hear back in regards settlement?
    Is it within 9 months in total from when the claim was sent into the personal injuries board or within 9 months after the independent medical?
    just would like some information on this.

    thanks

    Hey Pebbles,

    Its 9 months max from the date when the respondent confirmed liability was not in dispute. I believe typical running time is circa 7.2 months at present.

    The respondent had 3 months to reply once the initial application was made by yourself, i.e. indicating if liability was being disputed or not.

    Hope it helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 pebbles 12


    thats great thanks very much for that information.
    So that was around jan/feb when the accepted liability and my medical was in april.

    thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    pebbles 12 wrote: »
    thats great thanks very much for that information.
    So that was around jan/feb when the accepted liability and my medical was in april.

    thanks again.

    Assuming Feb, worst case scenario Nov. If going to average around Sept. Depends on many factors though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    some people get word back from the injuries board 2/3 weeks after the assessment,while others have to wait a few months.not sure why that is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    author wrote: »
    some people get word back from the injuries board 2/3 weeks after the assessment,while others have to wait a few months.not sure why that is?
    I believe the injuries board panel doc has 2 weeks to write up and submit report. After thats its internal processes i would suspect.

    Would imagine it depends on complexity and severity of injuries and concensus on prognosis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    hi pebbles 12
    did you try giving the i njuries board a ring??
    they probly told you they have a few months to go throught the process!!

    So when they get the report back from the injuries board doctor,they "run it through the system" and they tell you what they think is a reasonable award??
    or if its to difficult for them to assess,they let you go on to court.
    If it was that difficult for them to assess,could they not of seen that when the person first sent in there medical report from the gp instead of having that person wait another year or so..and then be told we cant assess it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 pebbles 12


    Hi author
    No i havnt rang the injuries board yet.
    I didnt realise that the independent doc has 2 weeks to send the report back. so its just really a waiting game with my solicitor.
    Thanks for that information.

    I think it depends on every injury. Like for example a friend of my mams hurt her neck and she didnt have to go for an independent medical.
    her accident happened in dec and she had her compensation the following may.
    its abit strange how they work but suppose its alot quicker than if the courts were dealing with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    pebbles 12 wrote: »
    Hi author
    No i havnt rang the injuries board yet.
    I didnt realise that the independent doc has 2 weeks to send the report back. so its just really a waiting game with my solicitor.
    Thanks for that information.

    I think it depends on every injury. Like for example a friend of my mams hurt her neck and she didnt have to go for an independent medical.
    her accident happened in dec and she had her compensation the following may.
    its abit strange how they work but suppose its alot quicker than if the courts were dealing with it.

    Would suspect it depends on the nature, complexity and prognosis of injuries. Im in for a chat in July


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 pebbles 12


    the best of luck with it anyway kennM
    thanks for the advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    hi pebbles
    any word yet from the injuries board?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 pebbles 12


    Hi author
    no still no word yet.
    im not sure if im waiting for a phone call, email or a letter in the post.
    some people heard from them through email and others a phone call.


    have u heard any word yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    Hay there
    Just want to know if the injuries board have to deal with your case within the 9 months.I know the doctors assessment still had not been recieved by the injuries board, I had my assessment in febuary.the 9 months expire next week and haven't heard anything at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    We should setup a little group for people going through injuries board! : ) same here.

    From what I've read, the panel doctor is expected to have the report completed and returned to the Injuries Board within 2 weeks of consultation with you. After that its administrative processes within Injuries Board.

    Perhaps there are complications or lack of certainty over long term prognosis.

    If its going through a solicitor they typically send you a copy of everything they send your solicitor, they do in my case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    My solictor rang them 3 weeks ago and they said they were still waiting on the doctors assessment,the other side have agreed to the assessment by the piab so I don't know why they haven't told the doctor to hurry up to be honest.if he hasn't seen me since febuary and I am in as much pain if not more when I saw him how can he really give an accurate account of my injury.i am still in a lot of pain this is only muscle damage from having a halo on my neck,but how can give an accurate account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    if the doctor never sent in the report,the pib would have a job assessing it!
    it just means its wasted even more of your time.there should be some-one to complain about that.
    i wonder is there many people working on the administrative processes within Injuries Board??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    Well I would have thought that the injuries board doctor that is assessing the claim would not take nearly 3 months to write his report surely to god he must write the report within a certain time frame.also I was looking at the book of they assess the injury on and even that is very vague.i broke a bone in my neck and it just mentions whiplash and nothing about broken bones in the neck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    they are supposed to send the report back to the injuries board 2/3 weeks after they assess you or so they say that on there web-site.
    some people get word back after 4weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭cyberblade 918c


    does any one know off hand how long it takes the process to complete after the PIB have made their assesment and have confirmed a figure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    I think once you have accepted the assessment and the other side have accepted it can happen pretty quickly,otherwise you have 28 days to reply in writing and the other side have 21.did you have your claim assessed within the 9month period and if so how long did it take to assess after you went for ur medical assessment.tks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    does any one know off hand how long it takes the process to complete after the PIB have made their assesment and have confirmed a figure?

    Cameron has it spot on.... other side have 21 days to accept/reject PIAB proposed figure. You have 28 days to accept/reject. After that an order to pay is issued and I believe (open to correction) the respondent has 28 days to pay.... vague on this last number but its circa 1 month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭cyberblade 918c


    cameron28 wrote: »
    I think once you have accepted the assessment and the other side have accepted it can happen pretty quickly,otherwise you have 28 days to reply in writing and the other side have 21.did you have your claim assessed within the 9month period and if so how long did it take to assess after you went for ur medical assessment.tks

    had the medical at the start of Jan - received assesment today.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    had the medical at the start of Jan - received assesment today.:rolleyes:

    You happy? PM if you prefer.... looks like a few of us are in the PIAB boat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    I had my assessment on 14 febuary and haven't heard a thing.the 9 months finish on the 6 of June,I really have no idea what my claim would be worth.had a neck fracture and had a brace in for twelve weeks,now the fracture has healed well but the muscles spasms and knots are unreal.any suggestions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    Cyber blade did you have your assessment in Dublin,in the place behind the mater hospital.where you happy with the assessment or are you going to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    When do get the form for the out of pocket expences for hospitl bills,medication,milege etc??
    is it after they the injuries board make the assessment?
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    no author you submit the out of pocket expenses around two months before hand,so when they assess your case everything is included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭chasm


    cameron28 wrote: »
    no author you submit the out of pocket expenses around two months before hand,so when they assess your case everything is included.

    I forwarded on an updated out of pocket expenses form after my IB medical to have it included in the assessment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    Got my assessment today,i have to say it was a good assesment,i could push it to court but the time and money it would take for an extra few grand just isnt worth the hassle.....So hopefully the other side agree with the board and thank god i can get on with it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    hi cameron
    well done+id say your glad thats over.tell me this,is the injuries board estimator accurate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I was never sent for a medical when I went through the injuries board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭corkcity


    had my injuries board medical exam at the start of january and still havent heard anything ,wat the hell is going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 cameron28


    Yes I'd say the board is pretty much bang on the solictor said what she thought it was worth and she was nearly spot on.i just hope now that the other side don't go messing around,otherwise it is just a waste of time and money.and then it means going to court anyway....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    so when the injuries board receives the report back from there doctor,it must not take them to long the assess it.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,630 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Not to derail the thread, but who agrees with the piab figure in relation to an RTA? Is it the 3rd party, or the 3rd party insurance company?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    antodeco wrote: »
    Not to derail the thread, but who agrees with the piab figure in relation to an RTA? Is it the 3rd party, or the 3rd party insurance company?


    Usually the Insurance company, they will be writing the cheque. The reason I say usually, is that on some commericial policys there is a large excess if the award is less than the excess then the respondent will be paying it so will more than likely make the decision, but as that would more than likely not be in a RTA situation, it would but I am open to correction in RTA be the insurance company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    cameron28 wrote: »
    Yes I'd say the board is pretty much bang on the solictor said what she thought it was worth and she was nearly spot on.i just hope now that the other side don't go messing around,otherwise it is just a waste of time and money.and then it means going to court anyway....

    Glad that you seem happy with the proposed figure. Hopefully now the other insurance company says yes and thats it. You can put this behind you. Know exactly how you feel.
    antodeco wrote: »
    Not to derail the thread, but who agrees with the piab figure in relation to an RTA? Is it the 3rd party, or the 3rd party insurance company?

    I would tend to agree with Will on this (open to correction). Insurance company writes the cheque so they will say yes or no. Correct me if I'm wrong but to my understanding (this may be totally wrong rationale wise) an insurance company cannot accept liability on their clients behalf if the client doesn't accept liability. The way the PIAB process is structured though allows the process to proceed to payment without an acceptance of liability by the insurance company. e.g. the 90 day period the respondent has to accept/reject liability. By default if the 90 days pass the assumption is that liability is not in dispute. When the settlement figure is proposed the respondent has 21 days to accept/reject.... again if the 21 days pass the default assumption is that it is accepted.

    Insurance companies will have done their own investigation and know what they can and can't fight. They'll just want to get out as cheaply as possible. If the client rejects it it'll just ramp up the costs down the line for the insurance company because they will likely be paying the legal costs for the injured party also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    when liability is not in dispute,the insurance would want to get the case closed A.S.A.P,the longer it goes on,the higher the legal bill gets and in some cases the injuried person may get worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 pebbles 12


    im actually shocked at how many people are in the same position as me.
    i think we should set up some sort of group haha. (this could be our little group)
    we just come on here and rant.

    Well done cameron on ur settlement. glad u are happy with it.
    so u had ur medical in jan and u heard the other day so it was average 4 months?
    i hope to hear back so within the next 2 months if i was to base it on your assessment. ?
    I agree tho that its abit long to leave people waiting.
    Bills etc and of course the possibilty of the pain getting worse.

    my medical was in ballsbridge..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    i had an accident in jan 09 and i went true the PIB 2years ago had my assessment in aug 2010 and had an offer in the post by november 2010

    now ive gotta go true it again :( saw my solister on the 7 of may and he was applying for it than no issue of liabilty with insurance company thank god they are in the processes of paying for damage done to my car

    what im bricking this time is the fact its an aggreivated injury from the crash 3years ago and im wondering will they still assess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    i had an accident in jan 09 and i went true the PIB 2years ago had my assessment in aug 2010 and had an offer in the post by november 2010

    now ive gotta go true it again :( saw my solister on the 7 of may and he was applying for it than no issue of liabilty with insurance company thank god they are in the processes of paying for damage done to my car

    what im bricking this time is the fact its an aggreivated injury from the crash 3years ago and im wondering will they still assess

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, you had an accident in Jan 2009, you claimed and in November 2010 you had an assessment, (did you accept that offer) now it seems you have after 3 years further injuries.

    If you have accepted assessment then you can't have second bite of cherry. Unless you happened to be a minor in 2010 and the matter for what ever reason was not ruled.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    Please correct me if I'm wrong, you had an accident in Jan 2009, you claimed and in November 2010 you had an assessment, (did you accept that offer) now it seems you have after 3 years further injuries.

    If you have accepted assessment then you can't have second bite of cherry. Unless you happened to be a minor in 2010 and the matter for what ever reason was not ruled.

    no a seperate crash waas rammed off the road in 09 by a truck in pril this year someone broke a red light and ran into the side of me breaking my thumb and screwing up my neck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    hi
    thats bad luck you have had,the roads can be a dangerous place.id say the injuries board would assess you.but they would still have to take into consideration the previous accident+injuries.
    where you happy with the figure the injuries board came for the first accident?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    author wrote: »
    hi
    thats bad luck you have had,the roads can be a dangerous place.id say the injuries board would assess you.but they would still have to take into consideration the previous accident+injuries.
    where you happy with the figure the injuries board came for the first accident?


    i was a little disappointed with the figure they gave me but i accepted anyway relising that my lawyer and his company had given me an exaggerated my figure from the start but they are fair and i found them more helpful than the pack of lies the solister was telling me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    i was a little disappointed with the figure they gave me but i accepted anyway relising that my lawyer and his company had given me an exaggerated my figure from the start but they are fair and i found them more helpful than the pack of lies the solister was telling me

    Sounds like you're going with a different solicitor this time round ; )

    Very bad luck you've had. Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    Stupid question but can you just make an appointment for the PIB without going through solicitors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    deelite wrote: »
    Stupid question but can you just make an appointment for the PIB without going through solicitors?

    You can lodge the claim with pib directly, there is a lot of good info nd videos on their website. They are also very helpful and approachable on the phone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    kennM wrote: »
    Sounds like you're going with a different solicitor this time round ; )

    Very bad luck you've had. Best of luck with it.


    cheers i need luck :D
    im just gunna buy a bike instead ya i got a new solister this time round thank god


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    cheers i need luck :D
    im just gunna buy a bike instead ya i got a new solister this time round thank god

    Lol... Be careful, id mine off a motorbike. Finally one got me! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 author


    hi laura
    in what region of award did you get for your injuries first time with the injuries board?
    when did you send in your out of pocket expences to the injuries board?was it just after there doctor assessed you.
    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭xxlauraxxox


    author wrote: »
    hi laura
    in what region of award did you get for your injuries first time with the injuries board?
    when did you send in your out of pocket expences to the injuries board?was it just after there doctor assessed you.
    thanks
    i was out of work on and off for 18months before i could submit a proper loss of wages form and prescripions, psyiotherphy receipts etc. i sent them to my solister about two weeks before my appointment with their assessor i let him sort it what i was paying him for my region was under 30g and i still haad to pay my lawyer fees out of that


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