Timing - Any and all Subjects

ChemHickey

Hey guys, I didn't see a thread about but here's one just to start us off on timing for the real day. Please post your recommended timing for any and all subjects

I'll start us off today

Accounting


5mins to read the paper
Then once questions are chosen, spend a minute reading through each question again before you start it, eg. 1 min on q 2, then 1 on q3 etc.
Q1 - 50 mins ( never ever did this question, but I guess about this)
Q2/3/4 - 25 mins each
Q5/6/7 - 40 mins each
Q8/9 - 35 mins
5mins Reading over questions at end, answering parts you forgot / theory

FaoiSin

Project Maths

• Quick Read of Paper
• Circle all the questions you can't do
• Hand script up

Canard

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

Project Maths

• Quick Read of Paper
• Circle all the questions you can't do
• Hand script up

What if I run out of time before I get them all circled?

My main piece of advice would be for English P1. What I do is dont even read the comprehensions - pick the least awful B part and do it, then on the A part just read through it to get the answers. Voila, plenty of time for a story. :cool:

(I make it sound like English P1 is really hard or something...its not, I'm just time-stingy. )

FaoiSin

Patchy~ wrote: »

What if I run out of time before I get them all circled?

Practice, practice, practice. Get yourself a set of papers and set aside some time everyday for it. It'll pay off :pac:

reznov

All Subjects:

Walk into exam hall, analysing your surroundings.
Note the warmest area in the hall and attempt to grab a seat in that location.
Allow the examiner to issue necessary materials and thank him/her when she comes to your table. Nod if he/she says a word, but do not interpret any of their statement.
Once everyone begins to write, lower your head on the desk and nap. It's summer break after all!
DO NOT FORGET TO HAND UP THE SCRIPT. Attempt marks maybe given if examiners are in a good mood.

FaoiSin

reznov wrote: »

All Subjects:

Walk into exam hall, analysing your surroundings.
Note the warmest area in the hall and attempt to grab a seat in that location.
Allow the examiner to issue necessary materials and thank him/her when she comes to your table. Nod if he/she says a word, but do not interpret any of their statement.
Once everyone begins to write, lower your head on the desk and nap. It's summer break after all!
DO NOT FORGET TO HAND UP THE SCRIPT. Attempt marks maybe given if examiners are in a good mood.

WARNING THIS IS BAD ADVICE

Interacting in anyway with the examiner creeps them out and they may ask you to leave

reznov

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

WARNING THIS IS BAD ADVICE

Interacting in anyway with the examiner creeps them out and they may ask you to leave

Come to think of it you may actually be correct. The best idea is to not show up for the exam altogether. Feck the leaving! Your sleep and nerves are more important anyway.

Use the circle method for maximum marks.

Canard

Go in 20 minutes after the exam starts to maximise study time :cool:

reznov

Special tips for Maths:

When identifying what questions you cannot do (I.e. The whole paper), attempt to link the question with a formula in the log book. Copy the formula down and YOU MIGHT be awarded one mark.

8/300 marks, rock on.

FaoiSin

On a serious note all students who got there Project Maths papers rechecked last year were awarded 5 marks everywhere they originally received no marks (either for getting it completely wrong or not attempting the Q)

Project Maths is going to revolutionise the way I look at everyday life. I no longer have to wonder how tall the tree outside my school is as I have the priceless luxury of a home-made clinometer

It has undeniably "enhanced student learning experience" and provided "greater levels of achievement for all".

reznov

Patchy~ wrote: »

Go in 20 minutes after the exam starts to maximise study time :cool:

:cool:
Set off the fire alarm to cause panic. In the time everyone is running around, break out the revise wise book.

Get 2 marks more.

FaoiSin

Since I've contributed very little I suppose I'll plan this out:

English Paper 1

• 40 Minutes - Part A
• 40 Minutes - Part B
• Composition -Rest of exam
  (PRO-TIP - Make your story really depressing and outlandish to attain maximum marks)

Paper 2

• Hope Heaney or Larkin comes up
• Explain Hamlet's desire to copulate with his mother
• Explain how all your comparitive texts are really depressing

PRO-TIP - If you are intolerant of people's belief sets include your disdain in one of your questions as there is a good chance your examiner may also be intolerant of such people and award you extra marks

reznov

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

Since I've contributed very little I suppose I'll plan this out:

English Paper 1

• 40 Minutes - Part A
• 40 Minutes - Part B
• Composition -Rest of exam
  (PRO-TIP - Make your story really depressing and outlandish to attain maximum marks)

Paper 2

• Hope Heaney or Larkin comes up
• Explain Hamlet's desire to copulate with his mother
• Explain how all your comparitive texts are really depressing

PRO-TIP - If you are intolerant of people's belief sets include your disdain in one of your questions as there is a good chance your examiner may also be intolerant of such people and award you extra marks

I'd copulate with Gertrude and Ophelia if to be honest.

FaoiSin

reznov wrote: »

I'd copulate with Gertrude and Ophelia if to be honest.

If I'm being fully honest I wouldn't mind getting Polonius involved

reznov

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

If I'm being fully honest I wouldn't mind getting Polonius involved

Hmm. But what about the scholar Horatio? I actually think Fortinbras who is "hot and full" is a much better match.

I'd hit it.

FaoiSin

reznov wrote: »

Hmm. But what about the scholar Horatio? I actually think Fortinbras who is "hot and full" is a much better match.

I'd hit it.

The "noble" Horatio does seem quite loyal (If ya know what I mean)

Fortinbras seems like he'd be a little to demanding for my tastes "/

How would you feel about getting maybe more than one of the characters involved?

P.S reznov are you alive are dead? Your death in Black Ops seemed quite suspect and the further revelation of the Maverick Code has left me puzzled

reznov

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

The "noble" Horatio does seem quite loyal (If ya know what I mean)

Fortinbras seems like he'd be a little to demanding for my tastes "/

How would you feel about getting maybe more than one of the characters involved?

P.S reznov are you alive are dead? Your death in Black Ops seemed quite suspect and the further revelation of the Maverick Code has left me puzzled

The one major drawback of getting multiple characters involved is that the room may not be voluminous enough to host such a party. Going to have to tackle this problem one by one! Kind of like Maths Part a, b, and finally c.
However the proposition is welcomed as it could mean application of trigonometric theorems in a practical situation to practice my Project Maths skills.

Dead or alive? Better question is: Kicking ass on Earth or Kicking ass from above? I'm actually residing in a purgatory, "fasting in fires" in a country from which "no traveller returns". Expect my revival in BLOPS2 as a mechanical soviet solidier who continues his struggle for the sake of the motherland.

QueenOfLeon

Try and keep the thread on topic please guys.

PictureFrame

Economics

• Shorts- 20 Minutes
• Pick Long Questions- 10 minutes
• Do 4 Long Questions - 100 minutes (25x4)
• Read Over Paper- 20 minutes

Business

• Shorts- 25 Minutes
• ABQ- 35 Minutes
• Choose Long Questions- 9 minutes
• 4 Long Questions- 96 minutes (24x4)
• Read Over Paper- 15 Minutes

FaoiSin

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

Try and keep the thread on topic please guys.

No problem

Chemistry

• 3 Experiment Question - 20 each
• Short Question - 20
• Question 5 - 25
• Question 6 - 25
• Then pick 2 questions you're comfortable with and give them about 20 each
• 10 Minutes to read over

ChemHickey

Biology

5 mins read the paper/pick questions
Section A - 20 mins ( do all 6)
Section B - 25 mins ( do all 3 )
Section C - 25 mins a question (Do 4, try a 5th if time remains) ( recommend doing Ecology, Genetics, q14 and q15 as then you can do the choice within 14 and 15 as well)



For biology and chemistry, the timing is not so strict, in the mocks I answered all the questions except for on in Biology ( still had 20mins left - we didn't have genetics done at the time) and all questions in chemistry with 15 mins left. The main thing for the sciences is not to panic and don't rush! There is plenty of time in them!!!

FaoiSin

ChemHickey wrote: »

Biology

5 mins read the paper/pick questions
Section A - 20 mins ( do all 6)
Section B - 25 mins ( do all 3 )
Section C - 25 mins a question (Do 4, try a 5th if time remains) ( recommend doing Ecology, Genetics, q14 and q15 as then you can do the choice within 14 and 15 as well)



For biology and chemistry, the timing is not so strict, in the mocks I answered all the questions except for on in Biology ( still had 20mins left - we didn't have genetics done at the time) and all questions in chemistry with 15 mins left. The main thing for the sciences is not to panic and don't rush! There is plenty of time in them!!!

Do you think the Ecology questions worth it? I don't know it seems a bit risky as some years it's not as factual as the others "/

leaveiton

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

Do you think the Ecology questions worth it? I don't know it seems a bit risky as some years it's not as factual as the others "/

According to my teacher, the new chief examiner for biology is very into those sort of higher order thinking questions, where they're not testing you on what you've actually learned from the book. So maybe stay away from it if you don't like that, but those kind of questions can crop up in other places. If they do, though, they generally will accept any reasonable answer, so it's worth taking a stab at.

afc4life

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

Project Maths is going to revolutionise the way I look at everyday life. I no longer have to wonder how tall the tree outside my school is as I have the priceless luxury of a home-made clinometer

It has undeniably "enhanced student learning experience" and provided "greater levels of achievement for all".

Hahahaha man that was actually priceless! :P

ChemHickey

YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »

Do you think the Ecology questions worth it? I don't know it seems a bit risky as some years it's not as factual as the others "/

Ya it is definetly.

It was in the ecology question last year where they had the slight uproar (< oxymoron?) so more than likely it won't happen this year. Ecology is up every year, and is likely to appear in the experiments as well. Anyway, if some abstract thinking is involved, they'll accept any reasonable answer as aforementioned by leaveiton. It's worth it, and the abstract part would only be worth around 3 or 6 marks out of 60, and you'll more than likely get it right.

happyturtle

How about higher level English? Anyone has any plans on how to time it? And I've heard that the length of your essays is really important, so how long should they be?

SureYWouldntYa

happyturtle wrote: »

How about higher level English? Anyone has any plans on how to time it? And I've heard that the length of your essays is really important, so how long should they be?

Composition needs to be at least 1000 words.

Its the first thing the examiner looks at when reading your script, not the comprehensions.

You should dedicate at least 1 hour 15 to your essay, it is worth 25% after all.

Plan it out, stay focused to the question

earwax_man

Physics:

3 Experiment Questions - 15 each
Short Questions - 10 mins
Question 12 - 20 mins
Question 10a/b - 20 mins
Any other 2 long questions - 20 mins each
Attempt another experiment question if time allows after reading and checking your paper.

happyturtle

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Composition needs to be at least 1000 words.

Its the first thing the examiner looks at when reading your script, not the comprehensions.

You should dedicate at least 1 hour 15 to your essay, it is worth 25% after all.

Plan it out, stay focused to the question

Thanks for that Can you tell how many words other parts should be? I mean single text, comparative and poetry?

David1994

happyturtle wrote: »

Thanks for that Can you tell how many words other parts should be? I mean single text, comparative and poetry?

The poetry answer is expected to be about 4 pages,comparative about 4.5 pages and single text about 4 I think

AllyMcFearless

reznov wrote: »

Hmm. But what about the scholar Horatio? I actually think Fortinbras who is "hot and full" is a much better match.

I'd hit it.

And don't forget about Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.. ooft!:D

SureYWouldntYa

David1994 wrote: »

The poetry answer is expected to be about 4 pages,comparative about 4.5 pages and single text about 4 I think

Comparative could be a bit longer than 4.5 pages, if you spend more than an hour on it which you should 6 pages would be more like it. It is worth 70 marks

taylorconor95

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

Try and keep the thread on topic please guys.

The conversation shifted from the leaving cert to gang bangs with fictional male characters!

David1994

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Comparative could be a bit longer than 4.5 pages, if you spend more than an hour on it which you should 6 pages would be more like it. It is worth 70 marks

I agree you could probably write more than 4.5 pages in the allotted time but my teacher told us that that amount is perfect

happywithlife

Home Economics: Social & Scientific

Start with elective -- 35 mins
Compulsory question section B question 1 -- 35mins
other two questions section B -- 2x 20 mins
finish with section A -- 25 mins

that leaves 15 mins for reading over questions / selecting questions

or you could give 25 mins to both questions in section B but that just leaves 5 mins reading time then

so time is very tight

defo finish with short q's as you can just fire them down and remember to bullet point everything -- they like that

Random_Person

Maths P1
-Open paper
-Realise Sequences and Series is a part of at least 3 of eight questions
-Proceed to have a mental breakdown

earwax_man

Random_Person wrote: »

Maths P1
-Open paper
-Realise Sequences and Series is a part of at least 3 of eight questions
-Proceed to have a mental breakdown

At least I now know it's not just our school!

Canard

I'd be delighted :cool: Technically it was one year - algebra, Q4 itself, and Q5. DUNDUNDUN :eek:

stapler10

English:

A mark a minute

David1994

Geography:

Short questions-20 mins
Physical-30 mins
Regional-35 mins
Human-30 mins
Option-35 mins

I am going to try to stick to that I have practiced doing 30 mark questions in 12 mins but I usually take about 14...Ah well.

biohaiid

Random_Person wrote: »

Maths P1
-Open paper
-Realise Sequences and Series is a part of at least 3 of eight questions
-Proceed to have a mental breakdown

Huh?!
Its only one question?

biohaiid

For english paper 1, essay or comprehension first?
I always did the essay, but Im really tied for time on the comprehensions, which should be easy marks!

Random_Person

biohaiid wrote: »

Huh?!
Its only one question?

Yes it's 1 definite full question every year but it can appear in Q1/2 and even in Q5. One year it came up in 3 questions. 1 full question and a part of 2 others..

PictureFrame

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Comparative could be a bit longer than 4.5 pages, if you spend more than an hour on it which you should 6 pages would be more like it. It is worth 70 marks

We were told for English Paper II:

Comparative- 5/6 pages
Hamlet- 4.5/5 Pages
Poetry- 4/4.5 pages
Unseen Poem- 3/4's of an A4.

Canard

It can appear in Q1/2 but doesnt do so too often. In 2010, I think, it was a third of a C part. It would definitely have caught people out but if you'd done S&S it was pretty much an (a) part. The way you say "even in Q5" confuses me a little though, thats to be expected - Q5 is algebra, binomials, induction and S&S, as far as I know

David1994

PictureFrame wrote: »

We were told for English Paper II:

Comparative- 5/6 pages
Hamlet- 4.5/5 Pages
Poetry- 4/4.5 pages
Unseen Poem- 3/4's of an A4.

Only 3/4's of a page for unseen?? Our teacher said try do 1.5/2 pages :P
Are you talking about the 10 markers or 20 marker??

Wesc.

That's nearly 20 pages :O I'm not fast enough to write that much I got 46/50 in my Plath essay and it was only 3 and 3/4 pages! And practically full marks in Hamlet which was only 4 pages exactly. Funny, my comparative was like 7 and I only got 54 in it :P I don't think length means everything, well obviously, but quality always over quantity.

But anyways, this is how I do applied maths:

Try to do every full question in 15 minutes. This might sound hard, but trust me it pays off!
Basically, just plough through every question as fast possible but be careful aswell. If you get stuck, which everyone will be at some stage, try think of a way around it for about 2 minutes, and if you don't find a way around it, leave the question and move on. Then keep doing this with every question and then you'll have an hour left to go back over all the questions looking for your mistakes! From my experience, I can get too caught up in a question and get frustrated so I really think it's a good idea Works for me anyway!
Oh, and always do Q10 first, it's a nice quick question

Chuchoter

English

6 pages essay 90 min
page a part a question
2 pages functional writing.

4/4.5 pages Hamlet
4 pages Poetry
6/7 pages comparative
1.5 unseen

Physics I'm very unsure of. The experiments take me ages :S

ChemHickey

Patchy~ wrote: »

It can appear in Q1/2 but doesnt do so too often. In 2010, I think, it was a third of a C part. It would definitely have caught people out but if you'd done S&S it was pretty much an (a) part. The way you say "even in Q5" confuses me a little though, thats to be expected - Q5 is algebra, binomials, induction and S&S, as far as I know

Sequences and series
+
Induction

= rides of questions <3

Canard

ChemHickey wrote: »

Sequences and series
+
Induction

= rides of questions

We're just finishing off S&S this week then doing induction and I taught myself binomials as best I could - they seem so much nicer than Algebra/Calculus

ChemHickey

Patchy~ wrote: »

ChemHickey wrote: »

Sequences and series
+
Induction

= rides of questions <3

We're just finishing off S&S this week then doing induction and I taught myself binomials as best I could - they seem so much nicer than Algebra/Calculus <3

Oh they're amazing! especially compared to the often horrible question 8! they can be done in under 5 mins compared with q8 which usually takes 15 to 20!

<3 telescoping series = the easiest 20 marks in the leaving cert.