Prostitute vs One night stand

Daveysil15

So I was discussing this topic with a couple of lads the other day. They openly admitted to using escorts. They reckon its better than a one night stand because there’s no alcohol involved, and no awkwardness of waking up to a stranger the following morning. Do you think this is sleazy or is this sort of thing becoming more acceptable in our society now?

Riamfada

Yeah but the other one is free. There is a recession on

There's nothing wrong with it, as long as the escort themselves are in the business willingly, but I personally see no point forking out hundreds for something I could just as easily get for free.

Born to Die

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Daveysil15

Riamfada wrote: »

Yeah but the other one is free. There is a recession on

Yeah but is it ever free? When you add up the cost of a night out, a few drinks and so on - it all adds up.

Daveysil15

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Yeah but is it ever free? When you add up the cost of a night out, a few drinks and so on - it all adds up.

Still works out a lot cheaper than an escort, I would imagine.

Ghandee

Lol, 'free', suppose it depends on how you define free.

one night stand in my view, is where you meet a girl on a night out, usually in a pub or club etc.
Now, it being a one night stand would suggest it wasn't pre arranged, so you were already in the pub with mates,v drinking like a horse dealer after market day, and we all know alcohol ain't cheap in Ireland.

The other scenario is, your actually meeting a girl in a bar (pre arranged) or for dinner etc, either way your on a date, which after drinks/dinner/taxi will prob cost the guts of a hundred euro. Hoping she'll go back to your gaff at three end of the night


Both scenarios have non guarantee's of getting a ride at the end of the night.


Do the sums, read between the lines.

Deus Ex Machina

I really don't see why you wouldn't just whack off, you won't give a fuck about sex about two seconds after you've blown your beans and you'll have saved money.

The King of Moo

Hiring a prostitute is like spending €100 on a gold-plated HDMI cable: you're spending a lot of money for something you can get for a lot cheaper that does the exact same job.

Ghandee

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I really don't see why you wouldn't just whack off, you won't give a fuck about sex about two seconds after you've blown your beans and you'll have saved money.

Either your doing the sexy time wrong, or I gotta borrow your hands for half an hour :eek:

Scioch

Same thing when it comes down to it, most people dont pull regularly yet always go out to pull so you have to factor in the cost of all those wasted nights out too.

Somewhere like the Netherlands where its 50 quid for a quick one and its probably cheaper, safer, less awkward and more accessible to a lot of people and its a better option.

Somewhere where its not regulated though you have all manner of risks.

Daveysil15

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I really don't see why you wouldn't just whack off, you won't give a fuck about sex about two seconds after you've blown your beans and you'll have saved money.

You could say the same thing about sex in general. Some hot girl walks up to you in a club and says... "Hey fancy a shag?" And you say... " Ahh no thanks, I'll have a w*nk instead and see how I feel after that."

nxbyveromdwjpg

Have a hard time believing the OPs story

panda100

Daveysil15 wrote: »

So I was discussing this topic with a couple of lads the other day. They openly admitted to using escorts. They reckon its better than a one night stand because there’s no alcohol involved, and no awkwardness of waking up to a stranger the following morning. Do you think this is sleazy or is this sort of thing becoming more acceptable in our society now?

Well with a one night stand both parties are mutually enjoying the experience.

With a prostitute one is the customer and so has the upper hand about what what he wants done to him. It's work for the prostitute so its just about going through the motions and acting. Also, this women is more than likely pretty desperate for money,young and from a very impoverished country. She will be timing how long you paid for so she can get you out the door as soon as your 30minutes are up. There also is a fair chance that she is there against her will considering Ireland is a trafficking hotspot.If you like that empty sort of sexual experiences then you really are a selfish human being and probably are unable to get a non paying women to have a sex with you in the first place.

Also, one night stands don't always involve alcohol? If you find they do then it speak aeons about your attitudes towards sex, and why you feel the need to pay for an unwilling women to give you a blow job.

AnonoBoy

Daveysil15 wrote: »

They reckon its better than a one night stand because there’s no alcohol involved.

Your friends are weirdos. Alcohol makes everything better.

msg11

LordSmeg wrote: »

Same thing when it comes down to it, most people dont pull regularly

I actually though you meant pulling something else there for a second..

OneIdea

Born to Die wrote: »

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

How much did that cost:)

Blackpitts

ONS ftw!
the feeling of managing to seduce and score with a complete stranger is priceless.

The King of Moo

Surely sex with a prostitute is a lesser experience because they're only having sex with you because you've paid, and not because they're attracted to you.

It might seem a little selfish, but surely part of the enjoyment of a great sexual experience is that the other person wants to enjoy it with you.

AnonoBoy

To be honest you're less of a man if you have to pay someone to have sex with you.

Try to argue all you want but it's the truth.

midlandsmissus

Try to look at it from the prostitute's point of view and not just see her as somewhere to stick it when you want an orgasm. We're all humans, how hellish must that life be.

Scioch

msg11 wrote: »

I actually though you meant pulling something else there for a second..

No matter what ya do your gonna be pulling that pretty regular regardless.

midlandsmissus

A good link - read diary of a dublin call girl. Describing how she fell into it after being raped and thought she was no good for anything else and how she hated every second of it. Think of other people, people! And the world would be a much better place.

Scioch

The King of Moo wrote: »

Surely sex with a prostitute is a lesser experience because they're only having sex with you because you've paid, and not because they're attracted to you.

It might seem a little selfish, but surely part of the enjoyment of a great sexual experience is that the other person wants to enjoy it with you.

Most one night stands are probably drunken romps, where the only thing on your mind is your horny and you want a ride. If thats all you want then its probably on a par with an escort.

Personally I find the intimacy to be just as or even more so pleasurable than the old in out in out so I'd gravitate towards someone with whom I had some chemistry and wouldnt sleep with someone for the simple fact that I was horny.

Andy-Pandy

The old "sure you spend as much on a one night stand as you would on a prostitute" is just a vehicle to make the sad lonely f>ckers that have to pay for sex feel better. Paying for prostitutes is the mark of a pathetic man.

GLaDOS

Having to pay someone to have sex with me would definitely take away from the experience.

forfuxsake

Blackpitts wrote: »

ONS ftw!the feeling of managing to seduce and score with a complete stranger is priceless.

Surely sex with a prostitute is a lesser experience because they're only having sex with you because you've paid, and not because they're attracted to you.

It might seem a little selfish, but surely part of the enjoyment of a great sexual experience is that the other person wants to enjoy it with you.

This is the crux of the matter. If Man United beat Sunderland 12 - 0 today to take the premier league then the players would feel amazing. If Sunderland roll over and let them win 12 - 0 then the players would feel dirty and ashamed.

A Polish friend of mine in his forties uses hookers in Krakow all the time. Invariably they are pretty young students putting themselves thru college. He works on the oil rigs and doesn't get much opportunity to meet women. Sometimes when I'm round he will phone for one(sometimes two) and ask me if I want one. I always refuse, not on any moral grounds but because I would derive little or no pleasure from this.

It's like asking a hunter why he hunts when you can get pretty good venison down at Superquinn.

Deus Ex Machina

Daveysil15 wrote: »

You could say the same thing about sex in general. Some hot girl walks up to you in a club and says... "Hey fancy a shag?" And you say... " Ahh no thanks, I'll have a w*nk instead and see how I feel after that."

Nah, you'd still fuck her, you can show off to your mates that you fucked up some box and enhance your street cred bro.


Edit:

By the way, there's no guarantee that box blasting a brazzer is any less awkward than your average one night fuck fest. I've greased the aul single barreled pump action yogurt gun in a prozzie's box and it was one of the most awkward sexual experiences of my life, next to shedding the A.V. There's contempt on both sides, you looking at her thinking fucking hell, I just paid to vag-**** some broad, while she looks at you thinking, fuck bro, can't you snare some pussy yourself instead of strutting around paying for it like a prick?

The whole thing sucks. Better chop the nuts off and skirt the whole issue imo

Scanlas The 2nd

AnonoBoy wrote: »

To be honest you're less of a man if you have to pay someone to have sex with you.

Try to argue all you want but it's the truth.

Would you consider disabled or disfigured men less of a man because they can't seduce women?

suicide_circus

Have had a few ONS with girls who had all the sexy moves on the dancefloor and all the dirty talk, ear nibbling and trouser snookering in the taxi but when we got back to my bachelor pad (with rotating leather bed, mirrors on the ceiling and pink champagne on ice) it was a big let down technically. At least a pro would have some decent kung-fu!

suicide_circus

AnonoBoy wrote: »

To be honest you're less of a man if you have to pay someone to have sex with you.

Try to argue all you want but it's the truth.

I dont think its always a case of HAVE TO...look at Charlie Sheen, he could get laid in pretty much any bar in America but he rolls with the high class hookers coz they do the freaky ****.

Richard Hillman

I dont really see much difference in a hooker or a stay at home wife. They are both in it to fund their lifestyles. Its just that one seems to be more socially acceptable.

Shenshen

Daveysil15 wrote: »

So I was discussing this topic with a couple of lads the other day. They openly admitted to using escorts. They reckon its better than a one night stand because there’s no alcohol involved, and no awkwardness of waking up to a stranger the following morning. Do you think this is sleazy or is this sort of thing becoming more acceptable in our society now?

I think it's their choice.
I've had a few one night stands in my time, and never found it awkward. Nor was there any alcohol involved.
I don't think I'd be all that happy to pay for sex, and male escorts are thin on the ground. As long as it's clear from the start, I see nothing wrong with one nighters.
That said, escorts need the money, too.

Shenshen

AnonoBoy wrote: »

To be honest you're less of a man if you have to pay someone to have sex with you.

Try to argue all you want but it's the truth.

A lot of blokes might just be curous?

Pushtrak

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Do you think this is sleazy or is this sort of thing becoming more acceptable in our society now?

I think it a question of one thing which is none of my business VS another.

the purple tin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MVdUs4XQBI

sunflower27

suicide_circus wrote: »

I dont think its always a case of HAVE TO...look at Charlie Sheen, he could get laid in pretty much any bar in America but he rolls with the high class hookers coz they do the freaky ****.

That Ego has got so much money, buying women is probably some power trip for him.

God, I really can't stand Charlie Sheen... wouldn't normally be bothered by celebs, but that guy thinks he is some kind of God. He aint all that (by a long shot), no matter how much money he has.

Winnnnnniiiiing :o:o

Kerringe!

Rant over.

Kimia

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I dont really see much difference in a hooker or a stay at home wife. They are both in it to fund their lifestyles. Its just that one seems to be more socially acceptable.

There is so much wrong with this post, I hardly know where to begin. I think I will have to just satisfy myself with this: :eek:

And then: :rolleyes:

Because it's too much!

msg11

Jesus, http://secretdiaryofadublincallgirl.wordpress.com/ has a lot of detail. I felt sorry for the girls doing it in general, but it's actually unbelievable how much **** they get and how **** people make them feel. Even for the money why someone would do it is beyond me.

I'm not the best with the ladies, but I wouldn't go near a escort ever. It's pointless, sex should be about been in love not riding someone for money and demoralising the ****e out of them at the same time.

AnonoBoy

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Would you consider disabled or disfigured men less of a man because they can't seduce women?

How disabled or disfigured? I know disabled guys who have had decent success with women.

And that's not what the OP was talking about either.

I just think it's laughable when guys hire someone to have sex with them. But they'd think it was ridiculous to rent friends if they didn't have any. It's pretty pathetic to be honest. Even the most chronically shy guys can talk to girls - I'm not any great shakes looks-wise, I'm not rich or wildly successful but I can talk to women and just be a normal dude. The thought of having to pay someone is so ludicrous and the machismo that guys try to attach to hiring prostitutes is just a cloak to try and hide their pathetic nature.

seamy_orr

Born to Die wrote: »

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

You did what?

Dermighty

Daveysil15 wrote: »

They reckon its better than a one night stand because there’s no alcohol involved

So people who don't drink dont have one night stands??

AnonoBoy

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I dont really see much difference in a hooker or a stay at home wife. They are both in it to fund their lifestyles. Its just that one seems to be more socially acceptable.

It's been a while since a woman has even talked to you hasn't it?

1ZRed

I don't think I'd ever like to use a streetwalker, that's just disgusting!
A rent boy on the other hand...:p

AnonoBoy

Shenshen wrote: »

A lot of blokes might just be curous?

Curious about what? Giving someone money?

If they think the sex is magically different just because the chances of catching an STD are higher then they're sadly mistaken.

Scioch

AnonoBoy wrote: »

How disabled or disfigured? I know disabled guys who have had decent success with women.

And that's not what the OP was talking about either.

I just think it's laughable when guys hire someone to have sex with them. But they'd think it was ridiculous to rent friends if they didn't have any. It's pretty pathetic to be honest. Even the most chronically shy guys can talk to guys - I'm not any great shakes looks-wise, I'm not rich or wildly successful but I can talk to women and just be a normal dude. The thought of having to pay someone is so ludicrous and the machismo that guys try to attach to hiring prostitutes is just a cloak to try and hide their pathetic nature.

What machismo is attached to hiring prostitutes ? Its mostly done on the sly by people looking for an outlet for their urges because they are socially awkward. The bulk of the machismo and bragging come from blokes talking about how many women they pull and how easy it was. By your logic pulling yourself off is the lowest of the low and buying a tub of lube to do it or using a sex toy should be a criminal offence.

A chronically shy guy or girl wont find it easy to interact with people least off all when there is pressure from expectation. The problem there isnt solved by the fact they can talk to some people its in the fact they cannot talk to others. What your saying is the equivalent to "cheer up" to someone suffering from depression. Simplistic drivel in other words.

AnonoBoy

LordSmeg wrote: »

What machismo is attached to hiring prostitutes ?

The sort of thing the OP is talking about. His friends openly admitting it and thinking its no problem at all. I've heard guys discussing hiring prostitutes and describing what they've done as if it's a great feat.

Its mostly done on the sly by people looking for an outlet for their urges because they are socially awkward.

Says who? A lot of people in relationships use prostitutes - they can't be that socially awkward, can they? They've got a wife/girlfriend at home who presumably sleeps with them sometimes.

By your logic pulling yourself off is the lowest of the low and buying a tub of lube to do it or using a sex toy should be a criminal offence.

No it wouldn't. I don't know whose posts you're reading but I don't think it's mine. Where did I mention masturbation or sex toys and how do they involve paying someone for sex?

What your saying is the equivalent to "cheer up" to someone suffering from depression. Simplistic drivel in other words.

Bullsh*t. I'm saying nothing of the sort.

So somebody who's a bit shy instead of just trying to work on coming out of their shell and talking to people should just settle for hiring prostitutes and that's that. Being shy isn't the same as having depression so your comparison is nonsense.

There's hundreds of thousands of people who don't find chatting up girls easy but somehow they manage to not resort to paying someone for sex. I would say that the majority of people who use prostitutes aren't chronically shy at all. Some of them are just stupid arseholes.

Da Shins Kelly

I don't understand why anyone would want to have sex with someone who more than likely doesn't want to have sex with them. At least with a one night stand, there's some chance that the other person is somewhat attracted to you and wants to have sex with you. A prostitute just wants your money, probably because she really needs it, not because she really wants to have sex with you. Prostitutes for the most part are just going through the motions. If you're okay with that (and if you're okay with the very shady side to prostitution in Ireland), then go ahead. I don't get it though.

Scioch

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The sort of thing the OP is talking about. His friends openly admitting it and thinking its no problem at all. I've heard guys discussing hiring prostitutes and describing what they've done as if it's a great feat.

And how many guys have you heard bragging about how easy it was to pull some bird and what he did to her while joking about how drunk he must have been to fcuker her and how fast he ditched her the next day ?

Says who? A lot of people in relationships use prostitutes - they can't be that socially awkward, can they? They've got a wife/girlfriend at home who presumably sleeps with them sometimes.

Its the same thing, they are looking for an outlet for urges that they cannot satisfy in a traditional manner. A married man using a prostitute is no different than him having a one night stand, its nothing more than an outlet.

No it wouldn't. I don't know who's posts you're reading but I don't think it's mine. Where did I mention masturbation or sex toys and how do they involved paying someone for sex?

How is it different ? You said its pathetic to pay for sex when you can get it for free by having a one night stand. Buying a sex toy is paying for sexual pleasure. A woman paying 20 quid to use a vibrator is fine but a man who pays 50 for a hand job is pathetic ?

Bullsh*t. I'm saying nothing of the sort.

So somebody who's a bit shy instead of just trying to work on coming out of their shell and talking to people should just settle for hiring prostitutes and that's that. Being shy isn't the same as having depression so your comparison is nonsense.

Who says they have to settle ? Its not an either or and I'd imagine anyone who does use a prostitute for those reasons has maybe though about trying to come out of their shell. Its not as simple as just saying "I'm gonna be more confident" and I'm sure for some people having had the experience with a prostitute helps a lot with reducing the awkwardness. And saying "come out of your shell" to someone suffering from chronic shyness is exactly the same as "cheer up" to someone suffering from depression. They know what the problem is but its solving it thats the issue.

There's hundreds of thousands of people who don't find chatting up girls easy but somehow they manage to not resort to paying someone for sex. I would say that the majority of people who use prostitutes aren't chronically shy at all. Some of them are just stupid arseholes.

There is stupid arseholes everywhere. I'd wager my house that the number of arseholes who use prostitutes would pale in comparison to the number of arseholes that dont. But that doesnt mean there is anything inherently pathetic or wrong about paying for sex. Its a service and as long as its done between consenting adults then whats the fcukin problem ?

AnonoBoy

LordSmeg wrote: »

Its a service and as long as its done between consenting adults then whats the fcukin problem ?

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I'm not even sure it should be illegal.

I just think it's pathetic.

And buying a sex toy isn't equivalent to paying for sex with someone because there's nobody else involved. You're equating a prostitute with an inanimate sex toy which is just not an equivalent at all. Perhaps you see prostitutes as non-people but they're actually humans, did you know that? There's a fun little fact for you!

Teyla Emmagan

suicide_circus wrote: »

Have had a few ONS with girls who had all the sexy moves on the dancefloor and all the dirty talk, ear nibbling and trouser snookering in the taxi but when we got back to my bachelor pad (with rotating leather bed, mirrors on the ceiling and pink champagne on ice) it was a big let down technically. At least a pro would have some decent kung-fu!

Do you really think a professional is necessarily better in bed than a civilian woman? I would imagine s&x with a hooker would be very perfunctory. At least with a girl who actually liked you there would be genuine attraction and enthusiasm. And possibly that she'd be better at s&x than someone who doesn't have to be good at it to make a living from it?